“Imad Wasim should now be preferred in every match, and if you have to bench Shadab Khan, you should definitely do so": Ramiz Raja

[FearlessRoar]

Ramiz Raja, former chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board, voiced his worry on his YouTube channel that Pakistan's cricket team is struggling to find players who can consistently score at a high strike rate:

“Today’s middle order was a flop show, which resulted in not many runs being scored, causing the match to slip out of hand. Usman Khan was a good inclusion; he played well and is temperamentally strong. He will also have problems against fast bowling and bouncers, but at least he showed strong temperament and found some way to score runs, maintaining a good strike rate.”

“Imad Wasim should now be preferred in every match, and if you have to bench Shadab, you should definitely do so. You can play Saim Ayub in the middle order because Shadab is not fitting in at number five, so the arrival of a proper batsman will bring some stability to the middle order.”

“Iftikhar Ahmed gets out after scoring 20; he is used as a finisher but does not finish, neither in the first innings nor in the second. Similarly, Fakhar Zaman is also very hit and miss. He got a chance when his stumping was missed, then took another chance and got out.”

“You can’t play with a million-dollar approach in such a middle order where it seems like a flop show will happen every now and then; you have to take responsibility there. Let Mohammad Rizwan do the keeping, open with Rizwan and Babar as the opening pair, and then you can play an extra all-rounder instead of Azam Khan or a proper batsman. These are the things to do.”

“Pakistan’s bowling was also like that, except for Haris Rauf, the rest of the bowlers looked very tired and England did not let them settle. England, on the other hand, has pace, they have spin, everyone gave effective performances. Pakistan has a great bowling attack on paper, but you saw that England made it a one-sided affair and the beating that was given left all the fans going home dispirited and everyone’s tongue was saying the same thing, ‘what happened to Pakistan cricket’. So, a lot of hard work is needed for this.”

“First, you have to get this team out of experimental mode, go with a proper combination and this phobia of strike rate. For God’s sake, get out of this phobia because you don’t have the kind of players and you are destroying this entire team based on strike rate. You broke the opening pair and did a lot of damage to this team. After that, in the middle order, their role is not defined, all-rounders are put in the middle order, two keepers are playing, fast bowlers are changing, your spinners cannot spin the ball, there is no confidence. Imad Wasim looks good but you bench him, your bowlers do not have sideways movement and you have shaken the entire system. There is no good news before the World Cup, I have for Pakistani fans.”

 

[hamzie]

Depends on Babar
He wants to play with his friend

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Phobia of strike rare lol..

We Indian and Pakistani fans will get phobias when rest of the world will beat us black and blue in t20s due to high strike rate. This is like a hockey moment where rest of the world has moved on and our ex cricketers are still stuck in 2010s.

Head/Buttler/Salt/Klassen/Allen will give us phobias if this continues.

 

[Rana]

Typical Ramiz

“Middle order is the problem but my two favourites Babar and Rizwan are not. Let them open only”

I wish I come across this guy in person some time. He will remember my name like Carlos Brathwaite

 

[pakistani pride]

If Babar is so great Mr Raja, let him play at no 4 and let FZ open!

 

[FearlessRoar]

Yes, now it's clear, without Imad Wasim, we're standing nowhere in T20Is.

 

[Mamoon]

Imad will also get exposed like Amir. Babar has done well to protect him from getting exposed so far, but Shadab seems hell bent on ensuring that he is dropped for Imad and therefore, Imad gets exposed like Amir.

 

[emranabbas]

This lineup is designed to accommodate Rizwan, Babar, Shadab, Iftikhar, Naseem, and Shaheen. I truly believe that if we play for Pakistan, we can reach the finals.

Our current openers play at a very slow pace and aren't up to the global standards. Scoring big at a slow pace won't win matches in the end.

Fakhar batting at number four on paper seems successful, but in reality, his big scores at this position only happen when he comes in early due to losing early wickets. When Fakhar comes in after the power play, it has always backfired.

Shadab, the new number five batsman, has only averaged 11.12 with a strike rate of 109 in all games played in this position over the last two years. In other teams, this position is given to players like Brook, Chapman, Mitchell, Klassen, and Maxwell. Honestly, Shadab isn't even close to these players in terms of batting ability.

Azam Khan is not of international quality. He might do okay on small, flat grounds, but other teams are playing the likes of Travis Head and Rinku Singh. Azam Khan just doesn't fit in the team.

Iftikhar Ahmed has never been a consistent batsman; he only hits a few sixes when the match is already won. Expecting him to turn into Maxwell is unrealistic.

Imad Wasim, who is intelligent with the bat compared to Shadab, Iftikhar, and Azam, is often brought in to play the last two overs. What can you expect him to do in such a short time? He's a proper batsman, not a finisher, and needs a few balls to get into rhythm.

The only solution is to make use of the players who are performing well, like Fakhar, Imad, and Usman, and play them in their correct positions. We should drop players like Iftikhar, who never bowls, Shadab, who gets hit for 10+ runs every over, and the waste-of-space Azam Khan. We need a batting-heavy lineup because our bowlers alone won't win us matches. With the available options, the lineup should be:

• Babar
• Fakhar
• Saim
• Rizwan
• Usman
• Imad
• Shadab/Iftikhar
• Amir
• Shaheen
• Naseem
• Abrar

we still have 4 fast bowlers in the form of shaheen amir naseem saim and still have 3 spin bowlers in form of abrar, imad and shadab or iftikhar which ever one play

 

[Rana]

This lineup is designed to accommodate Rizwan, Babar, Shadab, Iftikhar, Naseem, and Shaheen. I truly believe that if we play for Pakistan, we can reach the finals.

Our current openers play at a very slow pace and aren't up to the global standards. Scoring big at a slow pace won't win matches in the end.

Fakhar batting at number four on paper seems successful, but in reality, his big scores at this position only happen when he comes in early due to losing early wickets. When Fakhar comes in after the power play, it has always backfired.

Shadab, the new number five batsman, has only averaged 11.12 with a strike rate of 109 in all games played in this position over the last two years. In other teams, this position is given to players like Brook, Chapman, Mitchell, Klassen, and Maxwell. Honestly, Shadab isn't even close to these players in terms of batting ability.

Azam Khan is not of international quality. He might do okay on small, flat grounds, but other teams are playing the likes of Travis Head and Rinku Singh. Azam Khan just doesn't fit in the team.

Iftikhar Ahmed has never been a consistent batsman; he only hits a few sixes when the match is already won. Expecting him to turn into Maxwell is unrealistic.

Imad Wasim, who is intelligent with the bat compared to Shadab, Iftikhar, and Azam, is often brought in to play the last two overs. What can you expect him to do in such a short time? He's a proper batsman, not a finisher, and needs a few balls to get into rhythm.

The only solution is to make use of the players who are performing well, like Fakhar, Imad, and Usman, and play them in their correct positions. We should drop players like Iftikhar, who never bowls, Shadab, who gets hit for 10+ runs every over, and the waste-of-space Azam Khan. We need a batting-heavy lineup because our bowlers alone won't win us matches. With the available options, the lineup should be:

• Babar
• Fakhar
• Saim
• Rizwan
• Usman
• Imad
• Shadab/Iftikhar
• Amir
• Shaheen
• Naseem
• Abrar

we still have 4 fast bowlers in the form of shaheen amir naseem saim and still have 3 spin bowlers in form of abrar, imad and shadab or iftikhar which ever one play

Na mate Saim opens with Fakhar if he plays

 

[emranabbas]

Na mate Saim opens with Fakhar if he plays

you need to give up on saim opening to be fair he's been very poor vs newzealand c team and ireland i don't see him successful vs teams like india australia etc..

he won't be able to handle top bowlers better to hide him for the 7th over to bash the spinners

 

[Rana]

you need to give up on saim opening to be fair he's been very poor vs newzealand c team and ireland i don't see him successful vs teams like india australia etc..

he won't be able to handle top bowlers better to hide him for the 7th over to bash the spinners

Then I would not play him. We have to be fair to a deserving opener instead of forcing him in the side at another position he hasn’t played or isn’t accustomed to playing.

Sahibzada was picked for Pakistan on good performances as an opener, he deserves his shot in that position.

I have the same view for Fakhar too. If he can’t perform as an opener the way we want him to, he makes way and is dropped from the side.

 

[emranabbas]

Then I would not play him. We have to be fair to a deserving opener instead of forcing him in the side at another position he hasn’t played or isn’t accustomed to playing.

Sahibzada was picked for Pakistan on good performances as an opener, he deserves his shot in that position.

I have the same view for Fakhar too. If he can’t perform as an opener the way we want him to, he makes way and is dropped from the side.

sahibzada isn't in the squad going to the world cup your other options are iftikhar chacha and azam khan and saim sits out all world cup

 

[Rana]

sahibzada isn't in the squad going to the world cup your other options are iftikhar chacha and azam khan and saim sits out all world cup

It is what it is bro.

We learn the hard way, or you will keep doing this RizBar nonsense for the next decade

 

[FearlessRoar]

Ramiz Raja, former PCB chairman, has slammed Pakistan's white-ball management for their experimental approach, warning of damaging repercussions in his recent YouTube video:

"They should stop experimenting with the team. Go into a game with a proper combination. You need to get out of the phobia of strike rate because you don't have that kind of players. Aapne is team ka satyanash kar diya hai (You have completely made a cock-up of this team)."

"You have ruined the team by breaking the opening pair (of Babar and Rizwan). The role of the middle order is not defined. You have put all-rounders in the middle and two wicket-keepers are playing. You are changing the fast bowlers. Your spinners don't spin the ball and don't have the confidence. You put Imad Wasim out of the playing XI. There is no sideways movement and you have completely dismantled the team just before the T20 World Cup."

 

[Rana]

Ramiz Raja, former PCB chairman, has slammed Pakistan's white-ball management for their experimental approach, warning of damaging repercussions in his recent YouTube video:

"They should stop experimenting with the team. Go into a game with a proper combination. You need to get out of the phobia of strike rate because you don't have that kind of players. Aapne is team ka satyanash kar diya hai (You have completely made a cock-up of this team)."

"You have ruined the team by breaking the opening pair (of Babar and Rizwan). The role of the middle order is not defined. You have put all-rounders in the middle and two wicket-keepers are playing. You are changing the fast bowlers. Your spinners don't spin the ball and don't have the confidence. You put Imad Wasim out of the playing XI. There is no sideways movement and you have completely dismantled the team just before the T20 World Cup."

Who did the actual Satyanaas? The people trying to do the repair job or Ramiz+Misbah who empowered a low intellect captain like Babar (which created the problem initially)??

 

[TeymurBlake]

Shadab Khan has needed to be dropped for a while now. He lack of improvements are for everyone to see.

Abrar Ahmed could play a massive role for the team in the WC.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Ramiz bhai u r the one who actually started a "satyanaas" of the team.

 

[Rana]

Ramiz bhai u r the one who actually started a "satyanaas" of the team.

100%!

It was his regime that has done unrepairable damage to Pakistan cricket. All for what? Destroying Sarfaraz’s legacy?

 

[mominsaigol]

Then I would not play him. We have to be fair to a deserving opener instead of forcing him in the side at another position he hasn’t played or isn’t accustomed to playing.

Sahibzada was picked for Pakistan on good performances as an opener, he deserves his shot in that position.

I have the same view for Fakhar too. If he can’t perform as an opener the way we want him to, he makes way and is dropped from the side.

Shabzada outperformed saim by miles when both were opening in acc

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Shabzada outperformed saim by miles when both were opening in acc

Sahibzada Farhan was the highest run scorer in previous edition of national cup to but dont know why management giving priority to saim who has zero performance even after giving consistet chances.

 

[mominsaigol]

Sahibzada Farhan was the highest run scorer in previous edition of national cup to but dont know why management giving priority to saim who has zero performance even after giving consistet chances.

Psl exploits probably

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Sahibzada Farhan was the highest run scorer in previous edition of national cup to but dont know why management giving priority to saim who has zero performance even after giving consistet chances.

Farhan will not get this many chances for sure , 2 games 20 odd runs and he will be out for many years

Pak give chances and consistently select non-performing players only if they got inside connections or chamchas or likeable

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Phobia of strike rare lol..

We Indian and Pakistani fans will get phobias when rest of the world will beat us black and blue in t20s due to high strike rate. This is like a hockey moment where rest of the world has moved on and our ex cricketers are still stuck in 2010s.

Head/Buttler/Salt/Klassen/Allen will give us phobias if this continues.

Yeah but the difference is that astroturfs destroyed hockey by taking out all the skill that our players were able to showcase on grass.

 

[moghul]

Depends on Babar
He wants to play with his friend

Dear Babar, I'm with you , world cups come and go, friendship should last for ever , friendship is more important than that stupid trophy, keep Shadab, Chacha and Azam playing.

 

[hasanali]

The best team from this squad:

Fakhar
Rizwan (wk)
Babar
Usman
Iftikhar
Imad
Shadab
Shaheen
Naseem
Haris
Abrar

Between Iftikhar, Imad and Shadab you need 4 overs with the other bowlers completing their quota. If any of the frontline four are having off days you can compensate with the three all-rounders.

Ideally you would replace Shadab with a proper batsman but the only two in the squad (Azam and Ayub) are looking really undercooked at this level. At least with Shadab you get a gun fielder in the ring and the possibility of an over or two of spin or the occasional cameo with the bat.

In any case, the onus is on the top six to score the runs. They have to step up.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

100%!

It was his regime that has done unrepairable damage to Pakistan cricket. All for what? Destroying Sarfaraz’s legacy?

In his regime and his previous one they were able to do well in ICC tourneys especially the WT20

2021 table toppers and lost semi to the eventual winners
2022 runners.

Then it’s musical chair of chairmen , 3 chairmen in 1 year , team lost to Afghanistan in a 50 over WC miserably. Emphatic victory for Afghanistan chasing 290 runs losing only 3 wickets and 2 overs to spare
Lose against Ireland , next in line coming is lose to USA in WT20

 

[Rana]

In his regime and his previous one they were able to do well in ICC tourneys especially the WT20

2021 table toppers and lost semi to the eventual winners
2022 runners.

Then it’s musical chair of chairmen , 3 chairmen in 1 year , team lost to Afghanistan in a 50 over WC miserably. Emphatic victory for Afghanistan chasing 290 runs losing only 3 wickets and 2 overs to spare
Lose against Ireland , next in line coming is lose to USA in WT20

Yeah keep telling yourself he did no damage to Pakistan cricket that needed repairing

 

[cricketAXEpert]

you need to give up on saim opening to be fair he's been very poor vs newzealand c team and ireland i don't see him successful vs teams like india australia etc..

he won't be able to handle top bowlers better to hide him for the 7th over to bash the spinners

Saim has been rushed into the side. Right now he looks like Asif Ali 2.0, Saim has more potential than Asif but he is an incomplete batter right now, he needs to play more first class to grow as a batsman. England worked him out easily, set a trap for his favorite shot and he fell straight in.

 

[cricketAXEpert]

Yeah but the difference is that astroturfs destroyed hockey by taking out all the skill that our players were able to showcase on grass.

Going off topic. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh need to bring back Hockey on Grass. Why? because field hockey was huge when it was India and Pakistan's #1 sport. Now it is a minor sport that has small public interest. If Wimbledon can be played on grass, why not field hockey. Hockey on grass will revive field hockey in the Sub continent, which is a huge market for it. Otherwise field hockey will remain a small time amateur sport (only relevant for Olympic medal count), Even in Europe it is a very minor sport.

Back then in 1970s & early 80s Pakistan and India got bullied by European bloc into giving up grass for Astroturf. One of the reason given by the European bloc was it snows so much in Netherlands. But how come Netherlands is able to play Soccer (Football) on grass then. Europeans tried to do the same with Football but South American bloc shut it down totally.

Now we have seen the power of Indian sports market in Cricket. Why not use the same power and influence to bring back Hockey on Grass. No one can stop Pakistan & India if they start their own league or tournament on grass.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Going off topic. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh need to bring back Hockey on Grass. Why? because field hockey was huge when it was India and Pakistan's #1 sport. Now it is a minor sport that has small public interest. If Wimbledon can be played on grass, why not field hockey. Hockey on grass will revive field hockey in the Sub continent, which is a huge market for it. Otherwise field hockey will remain a small time amateur sport (only relevant for Olympic medal count), Even in Europe it is a very minor sport.

Back then in 1970s & early 80s Pakistan and India got bullied by European bloc into giving up grass for Astroturf. One of the reason given by the European bloc was it snows so much in Netherlands. But how come Netherlands is able to play Soccer (Football) on grass then. Europeans tried to do the same with Football but South American bloc shut it down totally.

Now we have seen the power of Indian sports market in Cricket. Why not use the same power and influence to bring back Hockey on Grass. No one can stop Pakistan & India if they start their own league or tournament on grass.

As much as I would like for this to happen, I think it might be too late for Hockey. As a sport its essentially dead in the water. India has not invested enough in hockey to capture interest, and they don't seem interested in doing so either. The IHL was a failure and on-top of that their governing body has been bereft with its own issues of power struggles and corruption within the org over the years. Pakistan's hockey on the other hand always seems to one step away from ceasing to exist. We've all heard the stories of lack of sponsors, players not being paid in months/struggling financially, decrepit facilities and infrastructure etc. etc. The Europeans knew they were not good enough to compete with Pakistanis and Indians interms of skill. Fitness and speed where the only areas where they were better. So they came up with this idea to destroy field hockey as we know it. Now nobody, including them gives a sh!t about hockey. Just imagine, how big hockey would have been today if Pakistan and India were still powerhouses of this sport.

Ultimately though, I think we have to accept that hockey will just be something uncles at get-togethers talk about when they reminisce about the good old days.

 

[Thephenom]

Both Shadab and Imad should be jettisoned

 

[Rana]

Did anyone hear Ramiz’s gloating on the RizBar opening pair with Sunny Gavaskar?

I waited patiently for this arrogance to be exposed. My Lord never lets me down.

 

[mominsaigol]

Did anyone hear Ramiz’s gloating on the RizBar opening pair with Sunny Gavaskar?

I waited patiently for this arrogance to be exposed. My Lord never lets me down.

Ya I heard the commentary. It was disgusting tbh, Still riding the same world class train

 

[Rana]

Ya I heard the commentary. It was disgusting tbh, Still riding the same world class train

This is what happens when your niyyat is corrupt. God is magnificent

Our fight against RizBar was always for the sake of Pakistan’s betterment.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think they can bat him at no.7. I won't judge batsmen too much based on this pitch. This pitch was a two paced pitch with variable bounce. Ball was sticking into the pitch. Many players struggled. Look at Kohli he also toe ended a shot that he would play in sleep. Then Rohit toe ended. SKY toe ended. Pant miscued several balls.

 

[Major]

Did anyone hear Ramiz’s gloating on the RizBar opening pair with Sunny Gavaskar?

I waited patiently for this arrogance to be exposed. My Lord never lets me down.

Interesting, so you waited patiently hopong for pakistan to lose. Atleast you finally admitted it

 

[Rana]

Interesting, so you waited patiently hopong for pakistan to lose. Atleast you finally admitted it

Why do you care if I want Pakistan to win or not?

 

[Rana]

4 years ago I began this fight. Will continue this fight until the scum of selfishness isn’t removed from Pakistan cricket

 

[RidiculousMan]

I was impressed by his bowling in the middle today. Thought India will absolutely take him down. But he's a very clever bowler and still showed he had some gas in him with the ball. Showed same in the England series as well.

Unfortunately, his batting is no longer reliable. But he can still play as a spinner.

 

[mominsaigol]

This is what happens when your niyyat is corrupt. God is magnificent

Our fight against RizBar was always for the sake of Pakistan’s betterment.

When I was watching the game, my thoughts were mostly along the lines of Pakistan having to do what India did.

Aka cameo roles. Pakistan needed a Pant to make the difference. Rizwan bottled it.

 

[mominsaigol]

4 years ago I began this fight. Will continue this fight until the scum of selfishness isn’t removed from Pakistan cricket

Huge huge effort to your brother.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I was impressed by his bowling in the middle today. Thought India will absolutely take him down. But he's a very clever bowler and still showed he had some gas in him with the ball. Showed same in the England series as well.

Unfortunately, his batting is no longer reliable. But he can still play as a spinner.

He was turning massively more than Axar and Jadeja. Should have taken a wicket or two.

 

[Rana]

When I was watching the game, my thoughts were mostly along the lines of Pakistan having to do what India did.

Aka cameo roles. Pakistan needed a Pant to make the difference. Rizwan bottled it.

Rizwan was planning a big speech telling the world T20 cricket is about playing the situation, and he would justify being a T20 opener for the rest of his career on this innings

 

[ahmed16]

I was impressed by his bowling in the middle today. Thought India will absolutely take him down. But he's a very clever bowler and still showed he had some gas in him with the ball. Showed same in the England series as well.

Unfortunately, his batting is no longer reliable. But he can still play as a spinner.

Yeah, Imad is a proven performer with the ball, those four overs today kept a lid on India when Axar/Pant threatened to get India to more than 119.

For whatever is left for Pakistan in this tournament, he should be in the 11 as the main spinner, if Abrar continues to be ignored.

 

[PakLFC]

If Imad is the best replacement we have for Azam Khan then we are in massive trouble. This man can't even get bat to ball never mind anything else. I have never seen Wasim Akram so angry like he was after the match. Congrats to India they did what they had to do so nothing against them. They reserve the right to mock and laugh at this Pak side for the gap between us and India has never been greater. Even during Wasim and Waqar's heyday the Indian side was much better then what we have now. There is not one fluent stroke player or big hitter in the Pak side that can be depended on. Ifti and Fakhar are guaranteed to lose their wicket after a few big ones that is for sure. That we can't chase about 60 runs in ten overs shows what a disgrace our team is.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Yeah, Imad is a proven performer with the ball, those four overs today kept a lid on India when Axar/Pant threatened to get India to more than 119.

For whatever is left for Pakistan in this tournament, he should be in the 11 as the main spinner, if Abrar continues to be ignored.

I think Pakistan should play Abrar for the remaining two games. Also should play Saim. Just to see how good of players they are really.

 

[mominsaigol]

Rizwan was planning a big speech telling the world T20 cricket is about playing the situation, and he would justify being a T20 opener for the rest of his career on this innings

I think he was planning it for usa. For India I don't think he was.

 

[mominsaigol]

I think he was planning it for usa. For India I don't think he was.

@Rana I'M serious bro, the dinner party that was cancelled. It was where rizzu would have made his speech and babar too.

 

[Usman Chadda]

@Rana I'M serious bro, the dinner party that was cancelled. It was where rizzu would have made his speech and babar too.

I understand your criticism of Rizwan, and I agree with it aswell.

But to not even utter one word about Imad’s match-losing innings, how does it make you any different than Babar and Rizwan fans?

 

[Rana]

@Rana I'M serious bro, the dinner party that was cancelled. It was where rizzu would have made his speech and babar too.

I wouldn’t doubt it. Amazing how cricket humbles the arrogant

 

[mominsaigol]

I understand your criticism of Rizwan, and I agree with it aswell.

But to not even utter one word about Imad’s match-losing innings, how does it make you any different than Babar and Rizwan fans?

Brother I understand so I'll try to answer respectfully

The reason I didn't utter a word is for the same reason I didn't utter a word about chacha.

In the Indian innings, the pitch showed that overs 1 to 15 are difficult but management but 15 ton20 are impossible.

It's why India folded and none of their lower order and middle order made more then 10. Pant is what made the difference and we badly needed that from either rizwan, Babar, Chacha or fakhar. I'm blaming rizzu cause he stood out and stayed the longest.

When Pakistan were 40 of 40, in reality we were 40 of 20, Because overs 16 to 20, is game over, since its impossible to even score at 5 rr in that stage especially when Bumrah is their. Credit to naseem for playing arhsdeep.

Imad and chacha and even shadab are not to blame this time around.

The blame is on the top order.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Brother I understand so I'll try to answer respectfully

The reason I didn't utter a word is for the same reason I didn't utter a word about chacha.

In the Indian innings, the pitch showed that overs 1 to 15 are difficult but management but 15 ton20 are impossible.

It's why India folded and none of their lower order and middle order made more then 10. Pant is what made the difference and we badly needed that from either rizwan, Babar, Chacha or fakhar. I'm blaming rizzu cause he stood out and stayed the longest.

When Pakistan were 40 of 40, in reality we were 40 of 20, Because overs 16 to 20, is game over, since its impossible to even score at 5 rr in that stage especially when Bumrah is their. Credit to naseem for playing arhsdeep.

Imad and chacha and even shadab are not to blame this time around.

The blame is on the top order.

Imad’s FIVE dot balls in a row against Patel when 47 balls were remaining and we required run-a-ball to win the game, not blameworthy at all?

Yeah I have already said Rizwan did not play well and should not have thrown his wicket away like that against India’s best bowler.

But Imad played criminal dots against Patel first, then the next over against Pandya.

You don’t want to blame Shadab and Iftikhar, I can understand.

But you are defending Imad playing FIVE dots in a row against Patel, when 47 runs were required off 47 balls?

 

[emranabbas]

Imad isn’t to blame here; Rizwan and Babar's fans are trying to shift the blame onto him and others.

This was a tricky pitch and difficult to score on. The only option was to capitalize on boundaries during the powerplay, but we only managed a mere 35 runs in those six overs.

In contrast, India scored 50 runs in their powerplay and then added 69 more in the remaining 14 overs. They effectively used the powerplay, understanding they could only score heavily when just two fielders were outside the 30-yard circle. Meanwhile, Babar and Rizwan only managed 35 runs in the powerplay, failing to exploit this crucial phase.

 

[mominsaigol]

Imad’s FIVE dot balls in a row against Patel when 47 balls were remaining and we required run-a-ball to win the game, not blameworthy at all?

Yeah I have already said Rizwan did not play well and should not have thrown his wicket away like that against India’s best bowler.

But Imad played criminal dots against Patel first, then the next over against Pandya.

You don’t want to blame Shadab and Iftikhar, I can understand.

But you are defending Imad playing FIVE dots in a row against Patel, when 47 runs were required off 47 balls?

Either I don't blame all 3 of them, or I blame all 3 of them it's that simple. Neither of them would have kicked off bro, I'm telling you, in the same way it's unfair to blame any Indian batter who batted from no 5 to 11.

If you want me to blame imad sure, but the issue is, you can't logically play on that pitch, infact chacha is more to blame since Bumrah gave him 3 full tosses and he didn't dispatch any.

Now I can be dishonest and tear chacha apart from not putting full tosses away but neither could India. The pitch made the ball way way too soft for that to happen.

So neither of the lower or middle order is to blame.

Only fakhar, Usman, Babar and Rizwan.

 

[Usman Chadda]

Imad isn’t to blame here; Rizwan and Babar's fans are trying to shift the blame onto him and others.

This was a tricky pitch and difficult to score on. The only option was to capitalize on boundaries during the powerplay, but we only managed a mere 35 runs in those six overs.

In contrast, India scored 50 runs in their powerplay and then added 69 more in the remaining 14 overs. They effectively used the powerplay, understanding they could only score heavily when just two fielders were outside the 30-yard circle. Meanwhile, Babar and Rizwan only managed 35 runs in the powerplay, failing to exploit this crucial phase.

India was setting a total, huge difference.

 

[TheSultan]

Imad’s 5 dot balls were bad I agree. And my biggest problem was that he was going for glory - you could have just managed that over a lot better. Even a couple of singles.

I get what bro @mominsaigol is saying about the last 5 overs, but chacha missing 3 full tosses was criminal. We lost by 6 runs when if he had connected with one or two it would have made a massive difference.

The other problem is not one of Rizwan, chacha, Shadab and Imad even attempted anything unconventional. Naseem executed it on his first ball!

 

[Usman Chadda]

Either I don't blame all 3 of them, or I blame all 3 of them it's that simple. Neither of them would have kicked off bro, I'm telling you, in the same way it's unfair to blame any Indian batter who batted from no 5 to 11.

If you want me to blame imad sure, but the issue is, you can't logically play on that pitch, infact chacha is more to blame since Bumrah gave him 3 full tosses and he didn't dispatch any.

Now I can be dishonest and tear chacha apart from not putting full tosses away but neither could India. The pitch made the ball way way too soft for that to happen.

So neither of the lower or middle order is to blame.

Only fakhar, Usman, Babar and Rizwan.

Explain to me, how does one manage to play FIVE dots in a row to one of the weakest bowlers of the opposition and stretch the equation down to 47 to 42 within a few deliveries.

Also explain how this amazing all-rounder did not have the brains to work out they can’t target Bumrah, and proceed to play dot deliveries to Pandya?

Rizwan was rubbish, yes.

But the fan-club is in full swing right now trying to defend a criminal batting performance by Imad Wasim.

Imad and Rizwan are the primary reasons we lost today.

Babar and Fakhar going cheaply is also a huge reason.

 

[emranabbas]

India was setting a total, huge difference.

india have been playing on this pitch since they landed, they played their warm up here and previous game and all their practice is also at the same ground. do you think they promoted axa patel for the fun of it? they played according to the ground and made full use of the powerplay. they new they needed a hitter at the top

 

[aboveandbeyond]

Imad was a complete joke. And to a lesser extent so we're Babar and Rizwan for scoring 24 off the opening power play. That's criminal.

 

[MK7Z]

That was pathetic by Imad. Made worse by the fact he was barely making it to the other end for singles. Guy can't run. I suppose smoking doesn't help.

And I saw an interview other day him calling himself the best all rounder.

Ironic that both Amir and Imad imo have been the main culprits for defeats in the last 2 games. Misson remove Babar in full effect.

 

[mominsaigol]

Explain to me, how does one manage to play FIVE dots in a row to one of the weakest bowlers of the opposition and stretch the equation down to 47 to 42 within a few deliveries.

Also explain how this amazing all-rounder did not have the brains to work out they can’t target Bumrah, and proceed to play dot deliveries to Pandya?

Rizwan was rubbish, yes.

But the fan-club is in full swing right now trying to defend a criminal batting performance by Imad Wasim.

Imad and Rizwan are the primary reasons we lost today.

Babar and Fakhar going cheaply is also a huge reason.

Well explain to me why chacha couldn't dispatch 3 full tosses? How is it acceptable, all 3 should be going for sixes and game over? Why can't you target Bumrah when he bowled 3 full tosses? He's class but even wasim akram got a phainti when he would occasionally bowl one especially during the 2003 era.

As I said, Ball was soft, it was uneven bounce, Imad missed because the bounce from those balls wasn't even, they were unplayable and the spinner pitched it correctly 3x.

Brother I have played cricket, Held the bat and use to play from 2011 to 2015 as young teenager. It's why I can analyse techniques and how I predicted babar would get bowled out in wc 2023 from the pull shot he plays. Ik the pitches and ik the game.

It's why I told @Major To not go bhrangra mode and act like Pakistan has easily won. Pak was always going to be at a disadvantage as soon as Pant played and did what he did. One of the top order needed to pull a Pant for victory, plain and simple.

 

[Major]

lol trying to blame the pitch when you favourite cant play.

Imad missed the ball of Axar Patel. I remember @Rana had to quickly come in and say well bowled Axar as if SHane Warne was bowling. Axar was throwing simple deliveries that were not even spinning. They were straight balls and did not even stay low. That had nothing to do with the pitch.

And to defend Imad, some kid is saying he wont blame Ifti aswell just to show creadibility to his pitch argument. Ifti got 5 full tosses. Not one of them were hit. Even a free hit was missed. It took Naseem only 2 balls to hit two boundaries. Same pitch that Imad, Shadab and Ifti batted on.

Bas favourites ko kuch na kaho.

We lost to USA due to Amir and today we lost to India due to Imad.

 

[Major]

That was pathetic by Imad. Made worse by the fact he was barely making it to the other end for singles. Guy can't run. I suppose smoking doesn't help.

And I saw an interview other day him calling himself the best all rounder.

Ironic that both Amir and Imad imo have been the main culprits for defeats in the last 2 games. Misson remove Babar in full effect.

Imad's behavior was suspicious and should be investigated by ICC's ACSU unit.

Like we know he is garbage but when you are not even trying to run and have issues with another guy running in, it makes you wonder what is up

 

[mominsaigol]

Imad’s 5 dot balls were bad I agree. And my biggest problem was that he was going for glory - you could have just managed that over a lot better. Even a couple of singles.

I get what bro @mominsaigol is saying about the last 5 overs, but chacha missing 3 full tosses was criminal. We lost by 6 runs when if he had connected with one or two it would have made a massive difference.

The other problem is not one of Rizwan, chacha, Shadab and Imad even attempted anything unconventional. Naseem executed it on his first ball!

Those 3 full tosses were unplayable unless you played an unorthodox stroke or did a tulle bazi which is what naseem did..

Unlike England players or aussie players, none of our top batters can play unorthodox,fakhar only has one shot which is scooping it but even then only one.

Chacha trying to swing it was never gonna work, and chacha has never played unorthodox in his life.

So yes you can blame chacha for not trying an unorthodox stroke and using the pace instead. But regardless my point stands, Rauf was difficult to play and he was bowling full toss galore.

On this pitch with the ball being hella soft, you can't muscle it even if it's a full toss. Your only hope is a blind swing and hope it skies off somewhere safe, or using the bowlers pace and being cheeky.

Saud shakeel would have come handy here considering his playstyle.

 

[TheSultan]

Well explain to me why chacha couldn't dispatch 3 full tosses? How is it acceptable, all 3 should be going for sixes and game over? Why can't you target Bumrah when he bowled 3 full tosses? He's class but even wasim akram got a phainti when he would occasionally bowl one especially during the 2003 era.

As I said, Ball was soft, it was uneven bounce, Imad missed because the bounce from those balls wasn't even, they were unplayable and the spinner pitched it correctly 3x.

Brother I have played cricket, Held the bat and use to play from 2011 to 2015 as young teenager. It's why I can analyse techniques and how I predicted babar would get bowled out in wc 2023 from the pull shot he plays. Ik the pitches and ik the game.

It's why I told @Major To not go bhrangra mode and act like Pakistan has easily won. Pak was always going to be at a disadvantage as soon as Pant played and did what he did. One of the top order needed to pull a Pant for victory, plain and simple.

I agree - top order should have really killed the game. This is exactly the scenario they love, this was the tone to show that if they’re worth anything, this match was tailor made for them. 120 target they could not have even dreamt of it.

 

[TheSultan]

Those 3 full tosses were unplayable unless you played an unorthodox stroke or did a tulle bazi which is what naseem did..

Unlike England players or aussie players, none of our top batters can play unorthodox,fakhar only has one shot which is scooping it but even then only one.

Chacha trying to swing it was never gonna work, and chacha has never played unorthodox in his life.

So yes you can blame chacha for not trying an unorthodox stroke and using the pace instead. But regardless my point stands, Rauf was difficult to play and he was bowling full toss galore.

On this pitch with the ball being hella soft, you can't muscle it even if it's a full toss. Your only hope is a blind swing and hope it skies off somewhere safe, or using the bowlers pace and being cheeky.

Saud shakeel would have come handy here considering his playstyle.

bro there was definitely one full toss on leg. Even kids put those away. All you need to do is flick it or help it round the corner. That was terrible. And that’s not even an unorthodox shot.

 

[emranabbas]

That was pathetic by Imad. Made worse by the fact he was barely making it to the other end for singles. Guy can't run. I suppose smoking doesn't help.

And I saw an interview other day him calling himself the best all rounder.

Ironic that both Amir and Imad imo have been the main culprits for defeats in the last 2 games. Misson remove Babar in full effect.

How can you blame amir he got you close to the game or else you had no chance. It was messed by drop catch by shaheen and boundary by harris in last over

Superover isn't even part of the match its the decider of the match

Check icc cricket rule book

 

[mominsaigol]

bro there was definitely one full toss on leg. Even kids put those away. All you need to do is flick it or help it round the corner. That was terrible. And that’s not even an unorthodox shot.

That could have gone for a 4, not a 6. He needed to nudge it past the keeper. The pace was enough to carry.

Who told chacha to slog sweep as if he's playing a spinner? He does not have the butler or de villers level reactions to slog sweep those deliveries against pacers so why bother?

 

[mominsaigol]

That was pathetic by Imad. Made worse by the fact he was barely making it to the other end for singles. Guy can't run. I suppose smoking doesn't help.

And I saw an interview other day him calling himself the best all rounder.

Ironic that both Amir and Imad imo have been the main culprits for defeats in the last 2 games. Misson remove Babar in full effect.

Let's say your bollywood drama fantasy is true aka mission remove babar.

If that was the case, then they'd be heroes and you should be praising them to the moon. Babar is a crap captain who's taken the team down the drain, Pakistan went from whitewashing a half strength aussie team in t20 in 2018 to getting butchered by every Tom dick and Harry in t20.

Should you not praise said narrative? Ridiculous honestly, even your own twisted troll logic fails you

 

[TheSultan]

That could have gone for a 4, not a 6. He needed to nudge it past the keeper. The pace was enough to carry.

Who told chacha to slog sweep as if he's playing a spinner? He does not have the butler or de villers level reactions to slog sweep those deliveries against pacers so why bother?

Even if it was a 4, it takes some pressure off. I’m just speechless how devoid our batsmen are of any kind of innovation.

Ok some players are just classic players like Babar and you might not expect it from them. But the ones that consider themselves “finishers” it “hitters” - it’s criminal if you don’t develop these shots

 

[MK7Z]

How can you blame amir he got you close to the game or else you had no chance. It was messed by drop catch by shaheen and boundary by harris in last over

Superover isn't even part of the match its the decider of the match

Check icc cricket rule book

Bowling several wides in 1 over as the most experienced bowler is blame worthy.

 

[mominsaigol]

Even if it was a 4, it takes some pressure off. I’m just speechless how devoid our batsmen are of any kind of innovation.

Ok some players are just classic players like Babar and you might not expect it from them. But the ones that consider themselves “finishers” it “hitters” - it’s criminal if you don’t develop these shots

Babar is not a classic player, that's saeed anwar.

Babar is one of the poorest back foot players ever. Against pace he has cober drives to offside and leg and a pull shot and that's it, his only single taking ability is nudging it down for a single on the backfoot.

Against spin he's beyond poor, A very poor puller of the ball often getting put by sending the ball to the inring fielder and a very poor cutter. Half the time he gets tumoed out because he puts too much pressure on the front foot, so he looses balance and his backfoot is left dangling in the air.

Unlike saeed anwar, He has no legside flicks for 6 that we see Warner do, he has no lofted drives, no inside out drives, Against bouncer he never tries to lift it over the keepers head, he is an extremely poor sweeper, he footwork is poor hence he lacks the ability to charge at pacers and he practically is extremely uncomfortable playing lofted strokes, he doesn't even have any cute shots that uses the bowlers pace Against them.

It's just drives, and pulls, and that's it. Babar was a marketing ploy set up by PCB to convince people that he is Pakistan's kohli, in the same way Shehzad was once a marketing ploy however the shezad marketing ploy faded because fans didn't like shehzad in general nor did pcb.

Babar's marketing ploy worked and Pakistani's are gullible in general. This lad isn't even better then haris sohail or hafeez

 

[emranabbas]

you need to give up on saim opening to be fair he's been very poor vs newzealand c team and ireland i don't see him successful vs teams like india australia etc..

he won't be able to handle top bowlers better to hide him for the 7th over to bash the spinners

The question you need to ask your self is why was the game even taken to the superover

Fins out the answer then get back to me

Untill then

 

[MK7Z]

Let's say your bollywood drama fantasy is true aka mission remove babar.

If that was the case, then they'd be heroes and you should be praising them to the moon. Babar is a crap captain who's taken the team down the drain, Pakistan went from whitewashing a half strength aussie team in t20 in 2018 to getting butchered by every Tom dick and Harry in t20.

Should you not praise said narrative? Ridiculous honestly, even your own twisted troll logic fails you

Imad's behavior was suspicious and should be investigated by ICC's ACSU unit.

Like we know he is garbage but when you are not even trying to run and have issues with another guy running in, it makes you wonder what is up

No trolling. Just facts when you spend years bashing a team on TV it's part of you.

I don't rate them both but that's my opinion. There were other culprits. Rizwan, ifti missing full tosses fakhar playing an awful shot again.

I just think those 2 were the main culprits.

Imad is not international standard. Mind you the Pakistan team isn't at the moment so he fits right in I suppose.

 

[TheSultan]

Babar is not a classic player, that's saeed anwar.

Babar is one of the poorest back foot players ever. Against pace he has cober drives to offside and leg and a pull shot and that's it, his only single taking ability is nudging it down for a single on the backfoot.

Against spin he's beyond poor, A very poor puller of the ball often getting put by sending the ball to the inring fielder and a very poor cutter. Half the time he gets tumoed out because he puts too much pressure on the front foot, so he looses balance and his backfoot is left dangling in the air.

Unlike saeed anwar, He has no legside flicks for 6 that we see Warner do, he has no lofted drives, no inside out drives, Against bouncer he never tries to lift it over the keepers head, he is an extremely poor sweeper, he footwork is poor hence he lacks the ability to charge at pacers and he practically is extremely uncomfortable playing lofted strokes, he doesn't even have any cute shots that uses the bowlers pace Against them.

It's just drives, and pulls, and that's it. Babar was a marketing ploy set up by PCB to convince people that he is Pakistan's kohli, in the same way Shehzad was once a marketing ploy however the shezad marketing ploy faded because fans didn't like shehzad in general nor did pcb.

Babar's marketing ploy worked and Pakistani's are gullible in general. This lad isn't even better then haris sohail or hafeez

Agreed - worded it wrong. Not classic, but I guess he’s a touch player, not really someone you look to to muscle the ball.