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"A month in SA and they still cannot play it [short ball]! Weak & pathetic!" : Kevin Pietersen

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pakistan’s 1st wicket falls AGAIN to a short ball...<br>What the hell????!!!!<br>A month in SA and they still cannot play it! <br>Weak & pathetic!</p>— Kevin Pietersen🦏 (@KP24) <a href="https://twitter.com/KP24/status/1087671753625821184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Contrast in UAE lowest bouncing wickets in the world and SA the steepest bouncing wickets in the world is just too much for these batsmen.
 
KP is not wrong though. He truly wishes well for Pakistan cricket. Our management must be held responsible for not rectifying this problem. How thick can they be?!
 
These batsmen are damaged goods. A month in testing conditions is not sufficient to reverse the damage that has been done years ago.
 
Really shatters the myth being peddled by some that we'd have done a lot better in the test series if we'd arrived a couple of weeks earlier. 3-0 was always on the cards with the way our batsmen handle the short ball
 
Outrageous comment from KP on many levels. First of all, you don't call some one pathetic. Second, you don't learn how to play short ball in a month. Bias continues
 
Says the guy who’s weaknesses were very well documented throughout the world and needed to send out emails to players on how to play left arm spin
 
Maybe they should dig up all the pitches in domestic cricket and replace them with cement tracks. That way by the time these loafers reach international level they will have a had a hard grounding in short ball cricket.
 
They can spend a few more months but they still won't be able to play it.

The only player in recent memory who had some semblance of control against short ball is banned because he couldn't keep himself out of nefarious activiites. So thank you Sharjeel for your patriotism and credibility.

The other one who showed some guts isn't being selected in the team for some weird reasons. I mean Shan only got in the test team due to injury as well despite the management and captain watching him in the nets.

Babar can but his strokeplay is limited and the pressure is too much plus he's good by Pak standards only.

Hafeez can but he is too old now.

Malik can't and won't and it's ridiculous that he's playing in the team on these surfaces.

Anyone below number five is there because they have limited talent so you cannot expect them to all of a sudden become good at this.
 
Other teams (not sure about Pakistan here :yk) plan and already know batsmen's weaknesses.

SA are simply exploiting it, without any real effort.

No wonder we are ranked so low in ODIs/Tests. (T20 is joke cricket anyways)
 
Shan Masood is the only guy who handled the short stuff well. Still fazed by the fact that he hasn't gotten a chance yet.

The best guy is warming the bench. Only in Pakistan.
 
A lifetime in cricket and still can't play left arm spin.

See, it works both ways KP.
 
Pakistan has done way better than most English teams used to do in subcontinent. Let's lay off this attitude
 
Some of you guys are actually getting offended at this? And bringing up his struggle against left arm spin to poke fun? Shameless behaviour to be honest.

The guy never scored soft runs and stood up against the best when it mattered. If we could have a couple of batsmen even half of KP's caliber, our team would be in good shape and not choke at the first sign of difficult batting conditions.
 
Varun said:
A lifetime in cricket and still can't play left arm spin.

See, it works both ways KP.
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He is just one player but Pakistan is a team. A player can have weakness but an entire team cannot have the same one. There is a difference you see.
 
the_game said:
Some of you guys are actually getting offended at this? And bringing up his struggle against left arm spin to poke fun? Shameless behaviour to be honest.

The guy never scored soft runs and stood up against the best when it mattered. If we could have a couple of batsmen even half of KP's caliber, our team would be in good shape and not choke at the first sign of difficult batting conditions.
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What are you talking about mate? I idolise KP as a batsman but one thing we must accept, England became a powerhouse in ODI and T20 cricket only after his exclusion from the side. England play at home and have a perfect structure for Test cricket. KP stood up in Tests and did well in ODIs for his own record but he didn’t make England a dominant force
 
A lot of people are missing the point of the Tweet. KP is clearly taking a dig at Grant Flower, the brother of his arch nemesis Andy Flower. He’s calling the guy incompetent as a batting coach
 
Rana said:
A lot of people are missing the point of the Tweet. KP is clearly taking a dig at Grant Flower, the brother of his arch nemesis Andy Flower. He’s calling the guy incompetent as a batting coach
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Good point. It's unlike KP
 
It’s easy to kick a fallen guy, so KP is taking his chances, but his English team toured BD for a month, then 3 months in India before collapsing like a ack of card on last day of Chennai Test, on what was still a good track.

It’s not easy for PAK players, neither coach to prepare for 140K+ short staff from 6’3”+ fast bowlers after playing in UAE for their almost entire career, where now 130K, 5’8” pacers are used to take the shine off for Yasir.

PAK has to get out of that death trap - UAE hasn’t given anything to PAK cricket, not even money. Net off cost, PCB could have made more by hosting the games elsewhere.
 
MMHS said:
It’s easy to kick a fallen guy, so KP is taking his chances, but his English team toured BD for a month, then 3 months in India before collapsing like a ack of card on last day of Chennai Test, on what was still a good track.

It’s not easy for PAK players, neither coach to prepare for 140K+ short staff from 6’3”+ fast bowlers after playing in UAE for their almost entire career, where now 130K, 5’8” pacers are used to take the shine off for Yasir.

PAK has to get out of that death trap - UAE hasn’t given anything to PAK cricket, not even money. Net off cost, PCB could have made more by hosting the games elsewhere.
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Money factor must have been known to PCB before they started playing - right? They must have known that there are other more beneficial options available to them. Then why did they choose UAE?
 
In their defense playing bouncers require skill. Raina could never play bouncers all his life. So either you have the skill or not. I have rarely seen a player gradually improving their skills against short ball. So being there in SA for 3 weeks don't mean they will automatically become great pullers or hookers. You either have it or not.
 
BaankeJi said:
Money factor must have been known to PCB before they started playing - right? They must have known that there are other more beneficial options available to them. Then why did they choose UAE?
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No way, in 2010 it was that difficult for PCB to shift home venue in BD, SRL or UK, even in SAF, ZIM, NZ, AUS were possibilities - but they opted for UAE and sticked to that for so long. I doubt its for the love of cricket or for the brotherly affection of UAE, and there are less paid crowd in Dubai/Abu Dhabi in a Test than runs scored, therefore the noble cause of "serving expat Pakistanis in UAE", can't a strong reason either.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Essex, derby...it's still someone's dream. If living the dream is only for the select few of internationals who played the short ball well then fair play, I've got it wrong too. <a href="https://t.co/cBqpTkJIgd">pic.twitter.com/cBqpTkJIgd</a></p>— Ryan ten Doeschate (@rtendo27) <a href="https://twitter.com/rtendo27/status/1087757492468109314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aha KP,top fishing...you deserve unreserved respect for the player you were.But you could try have a positive impact on county cricketers aspiring to play for England or just be the best cricketer they can be.I know guys playing 2nd team league cricket who are 'living the dream'</p>— Ryan ten Doeschate (@rtendo27) <a href="https://twitter.com/rtendo27/status/1087765902525751297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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KP getting owned on twitter by sensible blokes like Ryan ten doeschate..

I agree with KP's point slightly but 1 month is not enough you need years of practice.. Problem is Pakistani batsmen will come back to UAE and then they can score runs with their flawed techniques.. If Pakistan has to become a strong cricket playing nations they need their domestic structure to improve and pitches be sporting for both batsmen and bowlers. And secondly they should go back to playing in Pakistan or play their international matches in England or some other country.. UAE is killing Pakistan cricket
 
UAE is the best Pakistan can get at the moment without sacrificing TV rights substantially. Other alternatives might risk having to do their cricket in Hong Kong or some other obscure country.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Maybe they should dig up all the pitches in domestic cricket and replace them with cement tracks. That way by the time these loafers reach international level they will have a had a hard grounding in short ball cricket.
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Well actually they do use marble and concrete slabs and tennis balls just that you can’t replicate atmospheric conditions and match pressure plus the problem has been inconsistent bounce. For an already shaky lineup it’s a tall order. I honestly think we’ve been caught like rabbits in headlights by not arriving earlier and having the tests before loi’s.
 
Rana said:
A lot of people are missing the point of the Tweet. KP is clearly taking a dig at Grant Flower, the brother of his arch nemesis Andy Flower. He’s calling the guy incompetent as a batting coach
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I honestly think he has a point. Grant Flower has very little to show for his long tenure. Just think back to 1999. Apart from the final there was genuine progression in Pakistan batting from a wet May to July. They came to terms with swing and bounce against some of the top teams within a few weeks and I remember so clearly interviews that Saeed Anwar gave at the time about how they came to terms with swing on offer. (I don’t mean Alton Towers)
 
Abid Z said:
I honestly think he has a point. Grant Flower has very little to show for his long tenure. Just think back to 1999. Apart from the final there was genuine progression in Pakistan batting from a wet May to July. They came to terms with swing and bounce against some of the top teams within a few weeks and I remember so clearly interviews that Saeed Anwar gave at the time about how they came to terms with swing on offer. (I don’t mean Alton Towers)
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I know you're making a general point but choosing England as an example is quite poor as they've actually done well there in recent years, think the last 2 Test series in 2016 (drawn 2-2) and in 2018 drawn (1-1) and the Champions Trophy in 2017, which they of course won.

A better example would be New Zealand, as Pakistan have been thoroughly demolished by them in the two main formats, both home and away in recent years and that's primarily due to our batting not being able to play bowlers who can move the ball a tad and not handle any semblance of pressure when nearing the final day of a test.
 
big_gamer007 said:
KP getting owned on twitter by sensible blokes like Ryan ten doeschate..

I agree with KP's point slightly but 1 month is not enough you need years of practice.. Problem is Pakistani batsmen will come back to UAE and then they can score runs with their flawed techniques.. If Pakistan has to become a strong cricket playing nations they need their domestic structure to improve and pitches be sporting for both batsmen and bowlers. And secondly they should go back to playing in Pakistan or play their international matches in England or some other country.. UAE is killing Pakistan cricket
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This sums up what's wrong with Pak cricket.

Also the sad part is that we ain't winning even in UAE
 
big_gamer007 said:
KP getting owned on twitter by sensible blokes like Ryan ten doeschate..

I agree with KP's point slightly but 1 month is not enough you need years of practice.. Problem is Pakistani batsmen will come back to UAE and then they can score runs with their flawed techniques.. If Pakistan has to become a strong cricket playing nations they need their domestic structure to improve and pitches be sporting for both batsmen and bowlers. And secondly they should go back to playing in Pakistan or play their international matches in England or some other country.. UAE is killing Pakistan cricket
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So what if they are not able to play short ball after a month. So what if they play with flawed techniques in UAE. Where is it written that playing short ball well is the holy grail or getting a certificate from KP is the ultimate thing. The SA team were sitting ducks in SL against spin and they were there for a considerable time. Did KP question their technique, terming it as embarrassing? There are various skill levels involved in cricket. Not all batsmen have all skills. Steve Waugh could not play short ball and he devised his own method to cope with it. KP is weighing people in his scale which is wrong in my opinion!
 
Playing short ball is down to your natural reaction. How can you change your natural reaction in one month. Rohit sharma executes front foot pull with authority from the very first match. Kohli never had issues pulling the balls right out of the screw from the first match. Rahane too. But there are some btasmen who would look clueless even in the last match of the tour.
 
Problem is not playing the pull shot poorly, problem is knowing you can't pull and then getting out pulling when you can leave it . Playing the short ball well also means you can leave the ball well.
 
EliteCynical said:
So what if they are not able to play short ball after a month. So what if they play with flawed techniques in UAE. Where is it written that playing short ball well is the holy grail or getting a certificate from KP is the ultimate thing. The SA team were sitting ducks in SL against spin and they were there for a considerable time. Did KP question their technique, terming it as embarrassing? There are various skill levels involved in cricket. Not all batsmen have all skills. Steve Waugh could not play short ball and he devised his own method to cope with it. KP is weighing people in his scale which is wrong in my opinion!
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Well as a fan wouldnt you want your team to be world beaters? I as a fan of Indian cricket team want my team to dominate world cricket.. in fact I want India to be how America is in basketball that even our D team will be better than any other country.

Forget what KP said or why he said as a fan (assuming you are Pakistani fan) don't you want Pakistan to be world beaters? Cricket is the only sport in Pakistan just like India and population is more than any other country minus India.

To be the best pakistan should start from today itself. First identify the problems they have and then make a plan to resolve them and then implement the solution, it's not 1 month or 1 year work. It will take years to get a proper system and you would see results when next generation of cricketers come out. But for that you need to start from today.

However if you are happy with winning occasionally then there is absolutely nothing wrong in that either.
 
1 month is not enough to start playing short ball with ease, however i agree with KP, our batters are pathetic.
 
People shouldn't be getting offended at his tweet, our team have been pathetic.

But what he said to Jamie Porter was disgraceful, yes Porter shouldn't have got involved in the first place, but was classless by KP to put him down like that.
 
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