A statistical analysis of Amir, Hasan and Junaid (Since the trio started to play together)

[Shaik]

I am obsessed with pace bowling. Pakistan have a good bowling attack.

Since 2016, Pakistan pace attack is building up, step by step.

Jan 2016, Amir returns.
Six months later, July 2016, Hassan debuts.
Six months later, Jan 2017, Junaid returns.

It looks Amir, Junaid and Hassan would be the pace trio going forward.

While Amir looks to be having some serious potential, but by one way or the other Junaid and Hassan have been surpassing him.

I am not a statsman, but I love to analyse.

Since the Australia series, where the trio started to play together. These are the stats. I am not mentioning wickets, as they all have played different number of matches.

Hence comparing the Averages, Strike rates and Economy.

The sample size is decent, with all 3 playing almost similar number of matches.


Hassan Ali:

Matches:13
Avg:19.64
Str.rate: 21.1

Junaid Khan:

Matches:10
Avg: 31.06
Str.rate: 32.5

Muhammad Amir

Matches: 12
Avg: 31.66
Str.rate: 36.1

Both Junaid(the eye opener is, even Junaid have surpassed Amir, albeit just by a small margin) and Hassan have better Strike rates and Averages than Amir.

Only area where Amir has the upper hand is the economy. But again, the difference is not very high.

Economy:

Amir: 5.25
Hassan: 5.57
Junaid: 5.72

The difference is only in decimals.

Yes, Amir is more talented. Yes, Amir has won the CT final. BUT, IT'S HASSAN AND JUNAID WHO HAVE TAKEN PAKISTAN TO THE FINALS.

All 3 complement each other.

Let's keep a track on their perdormances, since the trio started to play together.

As of now, Hassan and Junaid are ahead(at least statistically).

 

[Bleedgreen4ever]

I am obsessed with pace bowling. Pakistan have a good bowling attack.

Since 2016, Pakistan pace attack is building up, step by step.

Jan 2016, Amir returns.
Six months later, July 2016, Hassan debuts.
Six months later, Jan 2017, Junaid returns.

It looks Amir, Junaid and Hassan would be the pace trio going forward.

While Amir looks to be having some serious potential, but by one way or the other Junaid and Hassan have been surpassing him.

I am not a statsman, but I love to analyse.

Since the Australia series, where the trio started to play together. These are the stats. I am not mentioning wickets, as they all have played different number of matches.

Hence comparing the Averages, Strike rates and Economy.

The sample size is decent, with all 3 playing almost similar number of matches.


Hassan Ali:

Matches:13
Avg:19.64
Str.rate: 21.1

Junaid Khan:

Matches:10
Avg: 31.06
Str.rate: 32.5

Muhammad Amir

Matches: 12
Avg: 31.66
Str.rate: 36.1

Both Junaid(the eye opener is, even Junaid have surpassed Amir, albeit just by a small margin) and Hassan have better Strike rates and Averages than Amir.

Only area where Amir has the upper hand is the economy. But again, the difference is not very high.

Economy:

Amir: 5.25
Hassan: 5.57
Junaid: 5.72

The difference is only in decimals.

Yes, Amir is more talented. Yes, Amir has won the CT final. BUT, IT'S HASSAN AND JUNAID WHO HAVE TAKEN PAKISTAN TO THE FINALS.

All 3 complement each other.

Let's keep a track on their perdormances, since the trio started to play together.

As of now, Hassan and Junaid are ahead(at least statistically).

Very good analysis and teams have scored 250 plus against us only 2 times out of 9 (Australia in both occasions) when all three have bowled together
This is remarkable considering the fact that 300 is the par total these days
After Shadab's debut no team has scored 250 plus against us when all 4 of our main bowlers play.

 

[Syed1]

Beautiful analysis


Slap on the face of the following people:

1. "Hasan will never be able to perform because of his height and lack of pace"
2. "Junaid is finished, he is beyond mediocre and 2012-2014 was a fluke"
3. "Amir is over-hyped and nothing special, he had one good season in 2010"



Pakistani bowling will always produce slap inducing performances for all these arm-chair experts.

 

[Shaik]

Beautiful analysis


Slap on the face of the following people:

1. "Hasan will never be able to perform because of his height and lack of pace"
2. "Junaid is finished, he is beyond mediocre and 2012-2014 was a fluke"
3. "Amir is over-hyped and nothing special, he had one good season in 2010"



Pakistani bowling will always produce slap inducing performances for all these arm-chair experts.

Yes, pace battery of Pakistan is on it's way.

These should be the pacers for each format

Test:

1.Amir
2.Abbas
3.Hassan

Backup:
4.Wahab
5.Faheem(AR)/ Rahat if you need a front line seamer

ODIs:

1.Amir
2.Junaid
3.Hassan

Backup:
4.Raees
5.Faheem(AR)

IT20's (meaningless to play your front line seamers, unless it's world t20)

1.Tanvir
2.Raees
3.Usman

Back up:
4.Junaid(he doesn't play tests.)
5.Faheem(AR)

World T20:

1.Amir
2.Raees
3.Hassan

4.Junaid
5.Faheem(AR)/ Usman khan

 

[Shutdown Corner]

The difference in economy is pretty significant. Amir at 5.25 and Junaid at 5.72...that equates to 20+ runs over a 50 over innings.

 

[Shaik]

The difference in economy is pretty significant. Amir at 5.25 and Junaid at 5.72...that equates to 20+ runs over a 50 over innings.

Haha. Why do you count for 50 overs?

Simple. Junaid concedes 57 runs in 10 overs and, Amir 52. Just 5 runs extra than Amir in an ODI, not 20. And Junaid's average and Strike rate is better than Amir. So overall both were performing same level recently.

You should check ur mathematics.
Anyways, it's what it is.

 

[Savak]

Amir for the most part is our Fast bowling Zulfiqar Babar and nothing else. Hasan and Junaid take more risks where they pitch the ball up and willing to be risked hit for 4's and 6's in order to get wickets.

 

[proud_pakistani]

I have a hunch Aamir's stats will improve after the CT final. He seemed to have been carrying a burden and now hopefully he will be more relaxed. Aamir will hopefully be the leader of the attack now.

 

[StreetSmart]

Beautiful analysis


Slap on the face of the following people:

1. "Hasan will never be able to perform because of his height and lack of pace"
2. "Junaid is finished, he is beyond mediocre and 2012-2014 was a fluke"
3. "Amir is over-hyped and nothing special, he had one good season in 2010"



Pakistani bowling will always produce slap inducing performances for all these arm-chair experts.

Just read their comments and laugh that should be the response like this

 

[New Yorker]

Yes, pace battery of Pakistan is on it's way.

These should be the pacers for each format

Test:

1.Amir
2.Abbas
3.Hassan

Backup:
4.Wahab
5.Faheem(AR)/ Rahat if you need a front line seamer

ODIs:

1.Amir
2.Junaid
3.Hassan

Backup:
4.Raees
5.Faheem(AR)

IT20's (meaningless to play your front line seamers, unless it's world t20)

1.Tanvir
2.Raees
3.Usman

Back up:
4.Junaid(he doesn't play tests.)
5.Faheem(AR)

World T20:

1.Amir
2.Raees
3.Hassan

4.Junaid
5.Faheem(AR)/ Usman khan

If Wahab and Rahat remain our 'backups' we have not progressed in the least. New talent will be coming through.

 

[TeymurBlake]

From the looks of it Pakistan's pace attack looks quite menancing. Amir, Junaid, Hassan, Rumman, Abbas, Shinwari, Butt etc. The future also looks bright with Bashir coming through.

 

[Hawkeye]

Junaid isn't in the same league. Need to find a good 3rd seamer soon.

 

[waleed88]

The difference in economy is pretty significant. Amir at 5.25 and Junaid at 5.72...that equates to 20+ runs over a 50 over innings.

Loool, do the above mentioned bowlers bowl 50 overs or 10?

Salute to your maths

 

[khurram39]

The trio performing well and hope to continue without any injury so that they can develop as a lethal weapon.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Junaid is a stop gap.

 

[Shaik]

Junaid is a stop gap.

Give him some time to establish himself. Why do you want him to be a stop gap?

On the basis of this performance he deserves atleast 2 series.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Amir really needs to get a move on. He bowled brilliantly in the final. Hope to see more of htat pitching the ball up and bowling with pace

 

[Macho Mann]

junaid has been miles ahead of muhammad amir in champions trophy, only amir's last game was good otherwise he was mediocre at best, if he sorts his first opening spell issue, would be a giant leap for his career.

 

[FreePalestine]

I remember Junaid having a lot of catches dropped off his bowling in Oz. Is there a statsman out there who can track how many catches have been dropped off each bowler's bowling? If so, can you also tell me how you have worked it out as is a useful stat.

 

[Abdullah]

I remember Junaid having a lot of catches dropped off his bowling in Oz. Is there a statsman out there who can track how many catches have been dropped off each bowler's bowling? If so, can you also tell me how you have worked it out as is a useful stat.

That would be interesting because the job of the bowler is to create the opportunities- he can not then run to slip and catch the ball also

 

[coy0607]

Junaid is a stop gap.

Agreed. Still not convinced he is a long term answer

His body has taken too much damage at this point, and he's not very consistent - we saw this in the finals too where Indians went at him

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

Give him some time to establish himself. Why do you want him to be a stop gap?

On the basis of this performance he deserves atleast 2 series.

Only a matter of time he goes for 10rpo.

 

[Suleiman]

Only a matter of time before Junaid is smashed back to reality (oh there goes gravity).

 

[Shaik]

Only a matter of time he goes for 10rpo.

When he goes for 10 rpo, think about it. As of now, he's doing a good job.

 

[QalandarFan]

Amir for the most part is our Fast bowling Zulfiqar Babar and nothing else. Hasan and Junaid take more risks where they pitch the ball up and willing to be risked hit for 4's and 6's in order to get wickets.

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Zulfiqar could have only dreamt of performing like Amir, the guy averges 40 in Tests and 60+ in ODI's. Baseless comparison, the guy has been bowling much better since the WI Test Series. Also could you please explain to me how Amir can be equated to Zulfiqar?

 

[Ellipsism]

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Zulfiqar could have only dreamt of performing like Amir, the guy averges 40 in Tests and 60+ in ODI's. Baseless comparison, the guy has been bowling much better since the WI Test Series. Also could you please explain to me how Amir can be equated to Zulfiqar?

The comparison is more apt. then your making it out to be. Both are immensely talented bowlers (Zulfi not as much as Amir) who fail to make a consistent impact.

 

[QalandarFan]

The comparison is more apt. then your making it out to be. Both are immensely talented bowlers (Zulfi not as much as Amir) who fail to make a consistent impact.

Maybe in Test's this thread is talking about ODI's. The guy averages 60+ in 5 ODI's hmm what a comparison comparing a 60+ average spinner who has played 5 ODI's to a pacer who has averages 27 in 36 ODI's.

 

[Ellipsism]

Maybe in Test's this thread is talking about ODI's. The guy averages 60+ in 5 ODI's hmm what a comparison comparing a 60+ average spinner who has played 5 ODI's to a pacer who has averages 27 in 36 ODI's.

The comparison is beyond statistics, the fact is that both Zulfi and Amir are talented bowlers who fail to make a consistent impact.

Amir averages 30 odd in OD cricket since his return, so I don't see how what your saying nullifies my argument.

 

[Shaik]

Looking forward as to how these 3 do together, against Sri Lanka.

Hope, Amir bowls attacking line and length.

 

[Misia]

everyone thats raving about Amir and Junaid ,,, yes there bowling great they are getting better blah blah blah ,, just remmebr Hussan/Ruman are the daddys

 

[backfootpunch]

Junaid is a stop gap.

Agreed I feel Shaheen Shah Afridi if he fufils his potential would be the perfect replacement. Can bowl 140+ and at 6ft6 would make this bowling attack well rounded since the current trio all lack height.

 

[mak36]

everyone thats raving about Amir and Junaid ,,, yes there bowling great they are getting better blah blah blah ,, just remmebr Hussan/Ruman are the daddys

[MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION], according to today's news it looks like Amir is the daddy.