AB de Villiers run outs in pressure situations

[Mian]

And the trend continues i mean this is not the first first or second time AB getting himself run out when playing a pressure match. What's wrong with AB running between the wickets when in these situations?

 

[Mian]

Remember the famous runout during last WC where he was running far away from the pitch only to get runout?

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

He has lack of match awareness and has done this so many times... best batsman running himself out. Choker.

 

[Slog]

I was literally about to make same thread

Who can forget 2011 WC or 2015 WC against Indja

 

[Vorador]

He is just too audacious for his own good.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

It was Faf's call.


Ab trusted Faf's call.


There was no single there.

 

[Stallion__]

Yeah was Faf's call. de Villiers tried his best despite having hamstring issue.

 

[big_gamer007]

Usual suspects will call it a choke but it wasn't his mistake this time, he could have said NO but he trusted his partner..

 

[Anchorman]

It was Faf's call.


Ab trusted Faf's call.


There was no single there.

There was a single there. AB hesitated for a split second in the middle of the pitch.

Would he have hesitated if it was just a bilateral?

You would trust AB to make that run 9/10 times.

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

Usual suspects will call it a choke but it wasn't his mistake this time, he could have said NO but he trusted his partner..

Running is a two way street. It has happened tp often for AB... can't excuse him any longer.

 

[Anchorman]

So we're just going to ignore that AB hesitated in the middle of the pitch? Okay.

Let's ignore the fact that this pair is the fastest in SA's lineup and thrive on risky singles and turning 2s into 3s.

 

[JaDed]

He should had said No,needs to value his wicket.

 

[JaDed]

So we're just going to ignore that AB hesitated in the middle of the pitch? Okay.

Let's ignore the fact that this pair is the fastest in SA's lineup and thrive on risky singles and turning 2s into 3s.

The problem is it was almost like a replay of 2015 WC,how can one not learn from the mistakes?It becomes a habbit.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

There was a single there. AB hesitated for a split second in the middle of the pitch.

Would he have hesitated if it was just a bilateral?

You would trust AB to make that run 9/10 times.

He put in a big dive and still he was too short.

Ideally He should have said a Loud NO.


There was No single there.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

He should had said No,needs to value his wicket.

Yes He should have said No but sometimes you trust your partner's assesment especially when it's a senior pro like Faf on other End

 

[WebGuru]

2011 WC, 2015 WC, 2017 CT every time Plessis was there as partner of AB...

 

[JaDed]

Yes He should have said No but sometimes you trust your partner's assesment especially when it's a senior pro like Faf on other End

2011 WC, 2015 WC, 2017 CT every time Plessis was there as partner of AB...

AS WebGuru said,they are making it like a habbit,surely they would had talked over this and will not do it this time.

 

[Buffet]

Faf's call and stupid call. So many run outs due to Faf's call ..... useless bunch of cricketers... Hopefully , 270 score is there for bowlers to bowl.

 

[Ab Fan]

Terrible performance overall. It wasn't AB's mistake though.Anyways, looks like a choke is on.They may get all out at 220-230..

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

Faf's call and stupid call. So many run outs due to Faf's call ..... useless bunch of cricketers... Hopefully , 270 score is there for bowlers to bowl.

Faf was also culprit in 2011 wc against NZ , first got ABD runout and then hit no shot straight to fielder.

 

[Adil_94]

ABs 8th run out in ICC tournaments. Second only to Inzi who despite his poor record in WCs after 92. At least played a GOAT knock in the 92 SF and a great one in the Final too. AB has played no substantial knocks in high profile ICC tournament games.

 

[Anchorman]

He put in a big dive and still he was too short.

Ideally He should have said a Loud NO.


There was No single there.

Disagree. He was a split second late off his mark and he hesitated for a split second in the middle. It's a game of margins.

The merits of such a risky single can be debated but one needs to keep in mind that these two are players who base their whole game on such running like the Kohli/Dhoni pair.

Not going to say it was a choke or anything but people are needlessly defending AB here just so that they can shift the blame off another failure in a pressure situation.

 

[Anchorman]

AB running to the danger end = His call.

AB "trusting" Faf is an error in AB's judgement. A player of his experience should know when to say no.

Ridiculous shifting of goalposts going on here.

 

[Anchorman]

Yes He should have said No but sometimes you trust your partner's assesment especially when it's a senior pro like Faf on other End

Sometimes you have to trust your own assesment and know when to say no especially when you're even more of a senior pro than the player at the other end as well as the captain.

 

[MRSN]

The blame is on Faf. Man of the match should be Faf for India.

 

[ads101]

I have no idea what Faf was doing, cost two of his fellow batsmen to be run out. Really stupid.

 

[MRSN]

AB running to the danger end = His call.

AB "trusting" Faf is an error in AB's judgement. A player of his experience should know when to say no.

Ridiculous shifting of goalposts going on here.

what about faf running out Miller?

 

[ads101]

The blame is on Faf. Man of the match should be Faf for India.

It's Faf's fault both times. Think this thread's almost unfair lol. The miller run out was absolutely ridiculous, both the batsmen competing at the same end. He should have just ran to the opposite end, it was too late to turn around.

 

[Anchorman]

what about faf running out Miller?

Completely Faf's fault. He sold Miller down the river.

Miller was running towards the danger end. He fulfilled his end of the bargain. Turned out Faf was sliding right beside him.

 

[Bilal7]

Not his fault. Faf played a bigger hand in dismantling the South African batting unit today than any Indian bowler. Dismissed both AB and Miller and then got out himself soon after.

 

[Navdeep Srivastava]

ABs 8th run out in ICC tournaments. Second only to Inzi who despite his poor record in WCs after 92. At least played a GOAT knock in the 92 SF and a great one in the Final too. AB has played no substantial knocks in high profile ICC tournament games.

I think he was playing very good in 2015 semi and was taking game away from NZ before rain

 

[Anchorman]

Love how pretty much everyone has come to this thread and exclaimed it was Faf's call even though AB was running towards the danger-end.

Even if you blame Faf for the call (you shouldn't because he wasn't running towards the danger-end), you should at least blame AB's judgement for not sending him back rather than playing the martyr.

At the end of the day, which player would SA rather have run out in that situation? 99.9% South Africans wouldn't have blamed AB if he had sent Faf back to get run out in that situation.

 

[amvbfm]

The blame is on Faf. Man of the match should be Faf for India.

Had this been Pakistan we would've concluded Faf intentionally ran out AB to get the captaincy hehe. But yes Faf's running was the turning point of this match.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Had this been Pakistan we would've concluded Faf intentionally ran out AB to get the captaincy hehe.

If that's the case then it would truly help South Africa more in the long-run than any transient damage caused by today's defeat. Faf would have been taking one for the team like the time when Bob Willis and Ian Botham orchestrated the run-out of Geoff Boycott in New Zealand in 1978.

 

[Abdullah719]

“I can’t explain exactly what happens, it was just a very poor batting performance. We just unravelled as a side out there,” AB de Villiers lamented.

He wore the look of a man bereft of answers, despite some sincere commitments to stay calm when the going got tough.

As it turned out, their brains got so scrambled at The Oval on Sunday that they even forgot the first two words of the cricket vocabulary.

‘Yes’ and ‘no’ went missing in action, and three deeply embarrassing run-outs served as cannon-fodder for an audience that had come spoiling for a contest to remember.

One moment defined the match.

“I take full responsibility for AB’s run-out. That’s my fault,” Faf du Plessis puffed.

“Obviously he is a big player for us, and he was looking good and it was a crunch time in the game.”

That much was true. Once De Villiers, looking assured and hungry for that definitive knock in a key clash, was gone, things immediately swung back to India.

“I suppose, after that moment, Dave came in and we discussed that it is extremely loud out there and difficult to hear each other, so the communication between the two of us was just for the next five overs, just play it as risk-free as possible.”

After those run-outs, the expected heavyweight bout turned out to be a David and Goliath affair. Sadly, this David forgot his stones back at the team hotel, and was simply bullied into submission by an Indian Goliath bayed on by a ravenous mob.

The Proteas turned into meek lambs at slaughter, committing cricket suicide and providing fresh evidence of their deeply embedded mental frailty.

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/cricket/...agic-pill-for-proteas-fear-of-failure-9735303

 

[Mamoon]

The run-out saved him today. He would have choked anyway. It doesn't matter if he looked good, he always does.

 

[Bilal7]

AB has shown enough mettle at the last WC for things like this to not damage his legacy anymore. It really is not his fault if Faf runs out two batsmen from his own team.

 

[SL_Fan]

Not sure what to say really. Faf just keeps running em out in ICC tourneys. He has made it all his own lol. On another note tho goes to show how important fielding is. India were absolutely top notch on the field yday. SA bats took care of the rest.

 

[kingusama92]

100% was Faf's call and Faf's fault.

ABDV wasn't making that regardless of how quickly he reacted. Was out by miles.

 

[nam]

happens when you are in a positive mood you tend to become aggressive and that was quite aggressive attempt for a single it was never there

 

[itsme]

Actually it's not ab losing his head,it's faf everytime it's faf making stupid calls.

 

[HateKiller]

Usual suspects will call it a choke but it wasn't his mistake this time, he could have said NO but he trusted his partner..

Batsmen need to master this skill - skill of saying "No" immediately. You see Kohli or Dhoni - they identify it very fast and say "NO" very loudly and immediately. If they don't say "No", they complete the run.

At the same time, other batsmen should be able to say "No" to their senior partners if they are the ones who are running to danger end. It is better to not take a run than to go for a suicidal single.

 

[HateKiller]

Actually it's not ab losing his head,it's faf everytime it's faf making stupid calls.

AB should be able to say "No". He does not have to get himself run-out every time Faf calls for a run.

 

[JaDed]

Actually it's not ab losing his head,it's faf everytime it's faf making stupid calls.

You know AB can refuse the call,its discussed already.

 

[Smbhayi]

Actually Saffers was running like headless chicken yesterday. there were too many risky single, had fielders hit stumps often they'll may failed to cross even 100.
having said that Indian fielding was superb notch yesterday, barring Yuvi misfield and Pandya's drop catch.

 

[big_gamer007]

You know AB can refuse the call,its discussed already.

Batsmen need to master this skill - skill of saying "No" immediately. You see Kohli or Dhoni - they identify it very fast and say "NO" very loudly and immediately. If they don't say "No", they complete the run.

At the same time, other batsmen should be able to say "No" to their senior partners if they are the ones who are running to danger end. It is better to not take a run than to go for a suicidal single.

Yes that's make it a bad decision on his part not a choke.. People use choke everytime a batsmen gets out without even knowing what it means.. Choke is SA losing 99 WC (assuming it wasn't fixing that time)..

Or WI losing semi final to Australia in 96 WC..

This is not a choke by AB it's a poor decision where both parties including faf is at fault..

 

[Cuts_and_cuts_hard]

Yes that's make it a bad decision on his part not a choke.. People use choke everytime a batsmen gets out without even knowing what it means.. Choke is SA losing 99 WC (assuming it wasn't fixing that time)..

Or WI losing semi final to Australia in 96 WC..

This is not a choke by AB it's a poor decision where both parties including faf is at fault..

Lol this was not a simple lack of judgement. He hesitated looking for a quick single. Trust me, if this was a JAMODI, he would not have hesitated like that. Pure nerves.

More importantly, this is not the first time it has happened. If it keeps happening repeatedly in pressure games, maybe it's better to not make apologies for him but rather admit that he lacks mental strength

 

[big_gamer007]

Lol this was not a simple lack of judgement. He hesitated looking for a quick single. Trust me, if this was a JAMODI, he would not have hesitated like that. Pure nerves.

More importantly, this is not the first time it has happened. If it keeps happening repeatedly in pressure games, maybe it's better to not make apologies for him but rather admit that he lacks mental strength

Ofcourse he lacks mental strength no one denies that but not everything is a choke my friend.. It was FAF's call of faf had not call AB would not have been out that's a fact..

If it has been a jamodi would he have been out? No one knows that's pure speculation on your part and not a fact..

Anyways let's agree to disagree

 

[Ozymandiasza]

For the record and to all those blaming AB:

"The team let him down. I ran him out. There's nothing that he did wrong today..." - Faf du Plessis

Source: http://www.espncricinfo.com/icc-champions-trophy-2017/content/story/1102965.html