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Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how he failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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Remove Babar too
 
Players outside the team are always better than players in the team. Shafiq got 3 ducks in a row. He is a nervous starter and looks petrified to be out there. Unless he improves on this you cannot rely on him.
 
Savak said:
Players outside the team are always better than players in the team. Shafiq got 3 ducks in a row. He is a nervous starter and looks petrified to be out there. Unless he improves on this you cannot rely on him.
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lol so who hasn’t been dismissed for a duck before?

Give him a run of games and he will become more confident / assertive.

No one else has a better range of shots and a sold technique than him.

He was our best batsman in the 23WC
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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I agree. His problem is all mental. Pakistan management didn't helped by discarding him like that.

It's easy to bash Cricketers but we need to carefully build up a future. I think fans should show a little more patience with young players.
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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Why do you have Babar, Shadab and Naseem in your squad? How many more matches do you want these guys to lose for you?
 
msb314 said:
lol so who hasn’t been dismissed for a duck before?

Give him a run of games and he will become more confident / assertive.

No one else has a better range of shots and a sold technique than him.

He was our best batsman in the 23WC
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Hmm

Lets examine his record against the big teams like Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand, India and remove the knocks in Rawalpindi and against Sri Lanka. I bet it will not make for a pretty reading. What is so special about performing against Sri Lanka against whom Saud Shakeel also has a double century. We all know where Saud Shakeel stands against quality pace and in the limited overs format.
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.
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I agree.

He's actually technically the most sound player in the Pakistan team. There's a big myth in Pakistan cricket that it's Babar, who has the most sound technique but there's no secret about how inept he is against spin.

There's another common misconception that also needs to be voiced here. Abdullah Shafique isn't a defensive player. The problem is he's a confidence player. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be coached nor is it easy to snap out of.

He has too much nervous energy in his batting, which is such a shame because indeed he has all the ingredients to be a world class batsman.

I would like to see Pakistan maybe give him a role at number 3 or 4 for two reasons. Firstly, so he's less exposed to the new ball and secondly, because he plays spin well.
 
Team should be built around Saim, Fakhar, Agha, Abrar. Babar and Rizwan should be dropped until they reinvent themselves, the pace trio also needs to go.
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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Other than the fact he less hackish i am not sure he is what you need. He has to signifiantly upgrade his game. If he can do that he can be serviceable. But don't expect him to be like Rickleton. Natural talent is visible at under-19 level. Don't think he set the game ablaze at that level. May be suitable for Tests.

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msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how we failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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One more thing. All these players that we had invested time and resources in. They were young in the scene when they came in, most didn't even played FC season properly. They have certain issues that needs to be tackled with.

The whole world saw what Shaheen was when he came in. By 2021 everyone believed he could be anything. Then came injury and he has been trying to catch up since then. No one emphasizes the importance of rehab and making a comeback like before. Bumrah and Archer got injured and came back like nothing had happened.

Why can't Shaheen be back to his original version? Specially when bowlers in other countries can.

Naseem I see the same struggle since injury. His pace is down as well.

Shaheen, Naseem, Shadab and Abdullah are still young. They have the talent. They have certain issues that need to be resolved. You don't just discard them, you make a plan for them to become their best version of themselves.

PCB still don't develop players properly once they have been identified. It's like bringing in a fresh talent and once they hit a bad patch or are injured and mishandled they are simply discarded. Fans also behave the same way and demand for them to be thrown away awaiting for a new toy.
 
topspin said:
I agree.

He's actually technically the most sound player in the Pakistan team. There's a big myth in Pakistan cricket that it's Babar, who has the most sound technique but there's no secret about how inept he is against spin.

There's another common misconception that also needs to be voiced here. Abdullah Shafique isn't a defensive player. The problem is he's a confidence player. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be coached nor is it easy to snap out of.

He has too much nervous energy in his batting, which is such a shame because indeed he has all the ingredients to be a world class batsman.

I would like to see Pakistan maybe give him a role at number 3 or 4 for two reasons. Firstly, so he's less exposed to the new ball and secondly, because he plays spin well.
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To add to the above, there's no way Imam should be our first backup opener. I would take both Abdullah Shafique and Shan Massod over him.

Imam is the very definition of substandard.
 
msb314 said:
Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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You've done well to remove Rizwan but you also need to remove Babar as well.

As for Ihsanullah, I don't think he'll be the same bowler we saw in 2023 PSL.
 
Pakistan should look to import good players from overseas. Perhaps offer them the same perks as a mid level fauji officer
 
topspin said:
I agree.

He's actually technically the most sound player in the Pakistan team. There's a big myth in Pakistan cricket that it's Babar, who has the most sound technique but there's no secret about how inept he is against spin.

There's another common misconception that also needs to be voiced here. Abdullah Shafique isn't a defensive player. The problem is he's a confidence player. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be coached nor is it easy to snap out of.

He has too much nervous energy in his batting, which is such a shame because indeed he has all the ingredients to be a world class batsman.

I would like to see Pakistan maybe give him a role at number 3 or 4 for two reasons. Firstly, so he's less exposed to the new ball and secondly, because he plays spin well.
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Yep. I have observed that he seem to be a person that is high on neuroticism. Babar might be too but he is way more.

It's a battle he has to fight and it might take him longer to drown the demons so to speak. Need a good therapist definitely.
 
Abdullah was unfairly dropped from both test & ODIs just after 1 bad ODI series against SA. Abdullah has been a victim of politics, he doesn't give non sense statements like Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Naseem etc. He should be brought back as he is technically sound, once he settles at wicket he scores runs unlike Imam who is a strokeless wonder.

Abdullah, Saud & Salman must get consistent chances in ODIs
 
topspin said:
I agree.

He's actually technically the most sound player in the Pakistan team. There's a big myth in Pakistan cricket that it's Babar, who has the most sound technique but there's no secret about how inept he is against spin.

There's another common misconception that also needs to be voiced here. Abdullah Shafique isn't a defensive player. The problem is he's a confidence player. Unfortunately, this isn't something that can be coached nor is it easy to snap out of.

He has too much nervous energy in his batting, which is such a shame because indeed he has all the ingredients to be a world class batsman.

I would like to see Pakistan maybe give him a role at number 3 or 4 for two reasons. Firstly, so he's less exposed to the new ball and secondly, because he plays spin well.
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It is unlikely that he will change his approach without a significant change in the core of the team. The issue lies in the batting culture of the Pakistan team, which is filled with tuktuks. Newcomers or non regulars will most likely adopt similar batting style upon seeing how the seniors operate . Exceptions like Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman may emerge occasionally but, in general, the majority of batters will tend to maintain lower strike rates. Pak needs to get rid of both Babar and Rizwan. They can be called back if they show change in they way approach their game in domestics.
 
I won’t say he is good or bad as I haven’t seen a lot of him but my observation is he looks more elegant playing in the V than Babar to be honest. People haven’t picked up on his drives yet maybe.
 
RidiculousMan said:
Yep. I have observed that he seem to be a person that is high on neuroticism. Babar might be too but he is way more.

It's a battle he has to fight and it might take him longer to drown the demons so to speak. Need a good therapist definitely.
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He definitely needs therapy, I don't know whether it's something to do with his upbringing or if he's had traumatic experiences in his life but you can tell mentally all is not well with him. A player of his ability shouldn't be getting dismissed for that many ducks.

Babar's case isn't analogous. Yes, he's also timid but his decline is linked to a number of other factors which include; poor work ethic, pursuit and abuse of captaincy, selfishness, stat padding, poor IQ, lack of focus/desire and etc. His career went on a downward trajectory from 2020 onwards. Babar was on the ascendency and peaked around the 2019 World Cup. The likes of Misbah, Ramiz Raja and Rizwan ruined him. I laugh at those who thought he was captaincy material because you can just see from a million miles away that he's no leader of men.
 
SpiritOf1903 said:
I'm past caring. The country's a mess and Pakistani cricket is largely become an irrelevance on the international stage
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Who hasn’t failed before?

India got booted out of the 2021 WorldT20 in the group stage

Same with Aus / SAF / NZ in 2022 WorldT20..

We will move on and rightfully so
 
gazza619 said:
Oh bhai. What’s the point of this?
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I was told by Bewal Express just a few months ago that "Babar is too young and too classy" and "if only he had the Australian system behind him".

So I thought I'd use his logic so he can at least realise how ridiculous his takes are on Babar.
 
He was a prodigy just like Babar. Alot of investment was done on him to the point that Pakistan was ready to give him a debut directly without domestic cricket.

But I agree with posters here, playing in Pakistan doesnt help him. Because he will develop the fear of being dropped and will slow down his game.

His three 0s in the South Africa series will have an effect on him.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
It is unlikely that he will change his approach without a significant change in the core of the team. The issue lies in the batting culture of the Pakistan team, which is filled with tuktuks. Newcomers or non regulars will most likely adopt similar batting style upon seeing how the seniors operate . Exceptions like Saim Ayub and Fakhar Zaman may emerge occasionally but, in general, the majority of batters will tend to maintain lower strike rates. Pak needs to get rid of both Babar and Rizwan. They can be called back if they show change in they way approach their game in domestics.
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Excellent points raised here and this speaks volumes about the calibre of Pakistan's coaches. The ex-players are a bunch of buffoons.

I'm sure there are cricket coaches in Nepal and Uganda, who are superior than all of Pakistan's ex-players.
 
topspin said:
Excellent points raised here and this speaks volumes about the calibre of Pakistan's coaches. The ex-players are a bunch of buffoons.

I'm sure there are cricket coaches in Nepal and Uganda, who are superior than all of Pakistan's ex-players.
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You mean ex players from the recent past? Since the Pak batters from the 90s and early to mid 2000s were very capable of scoring at high SR.
 
Another mental midget. Toast vs in coming balls and another bona-fide snail. Naturally poor timer too.

List A average 33. Sr 83. Sounds world class right? He doesn't deserve to play Odis until he proves it by performance in domestics.
 
gazza619 said:
Oh bhai. What’s the point of this?
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Hulk Hogan chose Babar, Babar failed and it's my fault. This is the thug that promised a winning team, he could have dropped Babar and Rizwan and everyone else and produced this amazing team that he promised, instead we have lurched from one embarrassment to another.
 
RyanRyan10 said:
You mean ex players from the recent past? Since the Pak batters from the 90s and early to mid 2000s were very capable of scoring at high SR.
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All of them because they all failed as coaches. I appreciate some of them were legendary players but playing that doesn’t translate directly into
coaching like that because they are different skill sets.

What worked for them in the 80s, 90s and 2000s will not work in today’s game.
 
topspin said:
Excellent points raised here and this speaks volumes about the calibre of Pakistan's coaches. The ex-players are a bunch of buffoons.

I'm sure there are cricket coaches in Nepal and Uganda, who are superior than all of Pakistan's ex-players.
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It's not one thing, it's the whole system. In the 1991 American election Clinton hammered Bush Snr over and over again with the line " it's the economy stupid". Well it's the setup in our case.
The World has left us behind, we have a board that isn't fit for purpose. We have chairman who knows less than 99% of this forum and has no clue what he is doing. The whole domestic setup is a mess and has been for decades, and when IK tried to do something, you guys were so desperate to prove him wrong that you went back to Ghani Glass v HEC.
We need a Professional board with people that care for PK, we need a Domestic setup that challenges our players and produces players by the dozen so that no one gets comfy in the team.
This isn't the lowest. We are going much lower than this. BD and the raw talent of Afg has caught us up and the SL, are more talented. We are in deep dodoo
 
"Flagship Batsman" - A term you can only hear from Pakistan fans. What ever that term means it does not suit Abdullah Shafique who averages 33 at a SR of 83 in List A. If he is going to be your template then Pakistan is going to regress even further than these bunch currently playing.
 
Marooned said:
Another mental midget. Toast vs in coming balls and another bona-fide snail. Naturally poor timer too.

List A average 33. Sr 83. Sounds world class right? He doesn't deserve to play Odis until he proves it by performance in domestics.
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Give him time and a long rope - he will succeed
 
giri26 said:
"Flagship Batsman" - A term you can only hear from Pakistan fans. What ever that term means it does not suit Abdullah Shafique who averages 33 at a SR of 83 in List A. If he is going to be your template then Pakistan is going to regress even further than these bunch currently playing.
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Can’t be worse than Rizwan / Tayyub right? Give him a chance and watch him succeed
 
Rana said:
Like I was about Rizwan?
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I don’t disagree that Rizwan has been slow and failing to update to familiar conditions in this CT

However, Mohammad Haris cannot replace him in the middle order… He can only play as an opener in the PP and even that will be a high risk move that will payoff if he can last 30 balls.

I added him as an opener on my preferred XI in the OP. However, he does not have the skill set to play anywhere else in ODI’s. And no other WK option…

Surely you agree with this?
 
msb314 said:
Can’t be worse than Rizwan / Tayyub right? Give him a chance and watch him succeed
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He may but he will eventually be similar to Rizwan/Babar scoring runs at 80-85 SR. That's the last thing Pakistan needs at the moment. His SR in Tests is 44 which is way too low for the conditions he batted in. Shafique batted on lots of roads in Pakistan over the last few years and still could score only at a SR of 44 in Tests, he will be a disaster in ODIs.
 
giri26 said:
He may but he will eventually be similar to Rizwan/Babar scoring runs at 80-85 SR. That's the last thing Pakistan needs at the moment. His SR in Tests is 44 which is way too low for the conditions he batted in. Shafique batted on lots of roads in Pakistan over the last few years and still could score only at a SR of 44 in Tests, he will be a disaster in ODIs.
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Rizwan has been scoring at a SR of 60-70. Abdullah Shafique has the potential so much better..

It’s easy to compare him to Babar but I believe he can accelerate faster than Babar on ODI’s once he is set
 
Major said:
He was a prodigy just like Babar. Alot of investment was done on him to the point that Pakistan was ready to give him a debut directly without domestic cricket.

But I agree with posters here, playing in Pakistan doesnt help him. Because he will develop the fear of being dropped and will slow down his game.

His three 0s in the South Africa series will have an effect on him.
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If given support and guidance - he can become a world class player
 
Savak said:
Hmm

Lets examine his record against the big teams like Australia, England, South Africa, New Zealand, India and remove the knocks in Rawalpindi and against Sri Lanka. I bet it will not make for a pretty reading. What is so special about performing against Sri Lanka against whom Saud Shakeel also has a double century. We all know where Saud Shakeel stands against quality pace and in the limited overs format.
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Sorry but I disagree..

Even outside of his hundred against SL - AS did very well against Australia and Afg too.

And Saud is also vital to our ODI Team. We need a dependable batsman like him at 4/5. He was our best player against India
 
@msb314

A player out of the team will look better then a player currently within the team. However I do want Abdullah to replace babar atleast as I believe he has a higher ceiling then Babar but you're overrating him.

The flagship batter should be Saim. Abdullah is another accumulator but he should come good in tests as he has the aptitude for it.
 
Let me make myself clear as this is the message that fellow PP members like @topspin @Rana @TheSultan @shaz619 @CerebralPatriot and many others have been promoting.

The problem Is not the quality of batters. Batters like Muhammad Haris get criticised way less then someone like babar. The problem is the lack of intent shown by batters who are playing atm.

its not like they try to loft but fail and dot balls get added up, its more so they deliberately block and wait for a delivery to exploit so they can get off strike even though they know they are chasing 300+.

Pakistan really needs to go back to their 1990 formula of shoving under 19 kids straight into international to get mauled until they get accustomed to internationals and are developed products by the time their 22-23.

Someone like maaz would really benefit from this.

I'm fine with Abdullah as one thing he has over babar is the desire to play very long innings and the desire to improve his game however it doesn't change the fact that his mentality is from the same school as Babar and rizzu atm. Hopefully that changes in the future.
 
Finding accumulators/anchors shouldn't be a priority.

Pakistan has enough of them.

Just find one that can rotate the strike best and add them to the middle order. You only need one maximum and they should never be your "flagship" batsman. They are just another part of the batting order and any flagship batsman should be like a Saim or Fakhar.

This is how you set the tone for your batting order.
 
A good joke

He is rubbish, technically inept with a black hole level of space between bat and pad. He is a coward like Babar and Rizwan.

We need more players like Saim and Salman with a jigra
 
Maaz Sadaqat needs to be given a chance.

I heard on X that Fakhar Zaman will announce his retirement after CT
 
kingusama92 said:
Finding accumulators/anchors shouldn't be a priority.

Pakistan has enough of them.

Just find one that can rotate the strike best and add them to the middle order. You only need one maximum and they should never be your "flagship" batsman. They are just another part of the batting order and any flagship batsman should be like a Saim or Fakhar.

This is how you set the tone for your batting order.
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You are spot on. Not sure what the role OP wants him to ful fill. Quick glance at his stat prove him to be an accumulator


56% dot balls which is not bad compared to 69% of dot balls from Imam. He can rotate the strike.

But if you look at boundary balls that is only 9% same as Imam's 9%

That is why his strike rate is 81.92. When you watch highlights they will only show you boundaries not balls in between. His stats show he is an accumulator by nature.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
You are spot on. Not sure what the role OP wants him to ful fill. Quick glance at his stat prove him to be an accumulator


56% dot balls which is not bad compared to 69% of dot balls from Imam. He can rotate the strike.

But if you look at boundary balls that is only 9% same as Imam's 9%

That is why his strike rate is 81.92. When you watch highlights they will only show you boundaries not balls in between. His stats show he is an accumulator by nature.
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Need a correction.. Imam's stat was for power play. Let me compare ABdulla's stats in power play


67% dot balls

Strike rate 68.21

13.8% boundary ball

Strike rate is similar to Imam. Boundary percentage higher than Imam. But dot ball percentage is almost the same

He gives you 13(19) on an average in power play.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
He doesn't look like a hack. His shots are proper shots. That kind of gives an illusion that he is a proper stroke player. Deep analysis reveals he is another accumulator, inconsistent one.
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Didn't say he is a hack . For someone who has been "invested" in for years , his skill level is very low. And doesn't look like he'll improve much either
 
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how he failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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I'm not sure that Abdullah can accelerate; his technique is also a bit off because he keeps getting out the same way. But I think he has potential but he really needs to be guided by a good coach.

I'd also like to see:
- Irfan Khan Niazi (strong, gun fielder, great work ethic, has potential)
- Arafat Minhas (great fielder, aggressive bat, tight bowler)
- Faisal Akram (seems like a handy bowler. i think he's a better left-arm wrist spinner than Suiyan Muqeem)
- Abbas Afridi (handy with the ball, and an underrated batter)
- Mohammad Wasim Jr (he'll come good if we give him a run)
 
mominsaigol said:
Let me make myself clear as this is the message that fellow PP members like @topspin @Rana @TheSultan @shaz619 @CerebralPatriot and many others have been promoting.

The problem Is not the quality of batters. Batters like Muhammad Haris get criticised way less then someone like babar. The problem is the lack of intent shown by batters who are playing atm.

its not like they try to loft but fail and dot balls get added up, its more so they deliberately block and wait for a delivery to exploit so they can get off strike even though they know they are chasing 300+.

Pakistan really needs to go back to their 1990 formula of shoving under 19 kids straight into international to get mauled until they get accustomed to internationals and are developed products by the time their 22-23.

Someone like maaz would really benefit from this.

I'm fine with Abdullah as one thing he has over babar is the desire to play very long innings and the desire to improve his game however it doesn't change the fact that his mentality is from the same school as Babar and rizzu atm. Hopefully that changes in the future.
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Very well said my bro.

Abdullah is someone I watch and when he plays his shots, I’m like wow, this guy has got something. But then every couple of matches he just gets stuck in a rut. I just don’t understand the mentality of our players.

Yes I agree, who you play with and their mentality or influence over you makes a difference - (we even saw that in babar’s post semi final team talk 2022 where he pretty much admonished Haris for not finishing the match) but where is that Pakistani player, that’s going to stick the middle finger up to the status quo and say I’m doing it my way!

Where is the guy that says I’m bloody good and I’m gonna show everyone.
 
TheSultan said:
Very well said my bro.

Abdullah is someone I watch and when he plays his shots, I’m like wow, this guy has got something. But then every couple of matches he just gets stuck in a rut. I just don’t understand the mentality of our players.

Yes I agree, who you play with and their mentality or influence over you makes a difference - (we even saw that in babar’s post semi final team talk 2022 where he pretty much admonished Haris for not finishing the match) but where is that Pakistani player, that’s going to stick the middle finger up to the status quo and say I’m doing it my way!

Where is the guy that says I’m bloody good and I’m gonna show everyone.
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Another thing, Aggressive players never get critised no matter how much they fail.

Fakhar zaman has never been critised, Even when saim failed 33 games in a row, the only critiscm was to hope he kicks off which he eventually did.

The problem with these mental midgets like imam, Babar and rizwan is that unless they score big which they rarely will only once in a blue moon, They'll freqently get critised because their playstyle is rubbish.

This is why you need aggressive players by default regardless of skill set, since skill set can be improved, but mindset can't.
 
Agreed. Senseless decision to remove him from opener slot before big tournament
msb314 said:
Abdullah Shafique has all the ingredients to become our premier batsman moving forward in LOi.

- Good Technique
- Good Range of Strokes
- Acceleration or Accumulation depending on the situation…

Not interested in nonsense about how he failed in SAF or is too defensive… so please avoid.

Need to persist with the following team moving forward:

1. Saim Ayub
2. Mo Haris
3. Abdullah Shafique
4. Babar Azam
5. Saud Shakeel
6. Salman Agha
7. Shadab Khan
8. Naseem Shah
9. Sufiyan Muqeem
10. Ihsanullah
11. Abrar
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Abdullah
Rizwan
Babar
Saud
Imam

all are of same category. We need to look beyond them and chose players like Saim and Agha . Who can play both pace and spin with intent
 
It depend who is your partner at other end if its Fakhar aur Saim you can afford to take your time & build partnership. But if its Baber you have to move on.
 
TheSultan said:
Very well said my bro.

Abdullah is someone I watch and when he plays his shots, I’m like wow, this guy has got something. But then every couple of matches he just gets stuck in a rut. I just don’t understand the mentality of our players.

Yes I agree, who you play with and their mentality or influence over you makes a difference - (we even saw that in babar’s post semi final team talk 2022 where he pretty much admonished Haris for not finishing the match) but where is that Pakistani player, that’s going to stick the middle finger up to the status quo and say I’m doing it my way!

Where is the guy that says I’m bloody good and I’m gonna show everyone.
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I don't think Mavericks like that are possible in pakistan presently.
 
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