Adam Voges - now the second best cricket batsman ever?

[Sachin136]

Voges average 61...well Steven Smith averages 60 and has already scored 3000 runs more than Voges. Not sure what's the fuss about this guy. His average would drop below 50 if he played 100 tests.

Let somebody score 6000 runs at average over 70 then we can remotely compare him to Bradman. Voges is a pitiful way to manipulate stats. Not to mention he was lucky to have many not outs which inflated his average

No one is seriously comparing him to Bradman, but there is no manipulation of statistics going on. His average was the second highest.

 

[Energetic]

I don't understand what the problem with "not out" is at test level when really that's a good thing. It shows the batsman class to remain like 300* when he knows he could've just got out after scoring a 100, and save those other 6 or so hours resting. You know what I mean.

 

[TestMatch]

I don't understand what the problem with "not out" is at test level when really that's a good thing. It shows the batsman class to remain like 300* when he knows he could've just got out after scoring a 10

Usually it shows who fails to farm the strike and who plays so slowly and cautiously they fail to push on with runs whilst wickets fall. There's a reason cautious grafters like Chanderpaul and Waugh have the most Not Outs.

 

[Convict]

I have no idea why Voges gets attacked as much as he does.

He's a good bloke who deserved the results he got.

Probably cricinfo stats babies who don't realise how useless batting stats are as a metric for measuring players - especially statistics solely from a period of 18 months.

 

[Convict]

I think he knew his Test career wasn't going to last very long when he made his debut so he probably just decided to make the best of it and go out quietly when the time came.
Has a heck of a record to go out on too.

Why can't the counties give guys like him Kolpak deals? Instead of poaching South African talent.

Australians are not eligible for kolpak deals.

 

[Syed1]

I have no idea why Voges gets attacked as much as he does.

He's a good bloke who deserved the results he got.

Probably cricinfo stats babies who don't realise how useless batting stats are as a metric for measuring players - especially statistics solely from a period of 18 months.

Yeah everybody should be judged on their wagon wheel

 

[Convict]

Yeah everybody should be judged on their wagon wheel

I know you say that in jest but if I'm going to judge a guy I've never seen bat before (which is not something a selector should ever do) a wagon wheel gives me more information than a batting average.