Ahmed Shehzad needs to bat at number 4 or 5. But you MUST not drop him

[Rana]

I think the guy is very talented but his biggest Issue is that he gets easily bogged down at the crease. He has all the shots and can accelerate at a very decent pace once he gets himself in. The curent issue we are witnessing is that he takes far too long to get himself going, is clearly struggling to take singles and rotate the strike, thus inviting pressure on himself and the team. I simply think the issue is the fact that hardly any quick singles are on offer for him in the first powerplay. Therefore, most of his shots are hitting the fielders and he continues to accumulate dot balls. The two new ball rule isnt helping him either.

You must look for a solution to this, and the solution isnt to drop one of your finest batting prospects. 10 international hundreds at the age of 23 is remarkable and we must back this fella to thrive. Therefore I believe coming a little bit late down the order might do him a world of good. The field is naturally spread out 85% of the time, therefore a lot more singles are on offer. It is much easier to play yourself in as a middle order batsman as compared to a modern opener, who practically should have got himself in from the 2nd over of the match. You must think of it this way; A player like Ahmad Shahzad would not have been criticized for his batting approach in one day cricket 20 years ago . The fact is, to compete with teams who now set 350 as the par total you must have players batting at strike rates above 100.

I dont want to see Shahzad being wasted the way players like Butt, Farhat, Kamran, Hameed and Hafeez (in the early part of his career) wasted themselves.

 

[Slog]

Thats a recipe for disaster. His shots go straight like a barrel when he doesnt block them so the hope is they miss the fielder in the circle and go for a four.

At 4,5 the field is spread out so even more fielders will be well placed to cut them out

And the problem is his shots are full face of the bat and there are no deft touches etc. so they go to the fielder at pace meaning that even then singles wont be an option most of the time.

 

[ChachaCricket]

Drop him.

 

[Rana]

Thats a recipe for disaster. His shots go straight like a barrel when he doesnt block them so the hope is they miss the fielder in the circle and go for a four.

At 4,5 the field is spread out so even more fielders will be well placed to cut them out

And the problem is his shots are full face of the bat and there are no deft touches etc. so they go to the fielder at pace meaning that even then singles wont be an option most of the time.

Thats as speculative as statement as is mine, but from what you are saying you too are convinced that Shahzad probably looks like Sachin in nets. So we admit the fact that he can definitely bat, just needs his shots to find the gaps instead of the fielders. All he needs to do is turn these early dot balls into singles, he will struggle to do that in the initial powerplay.

 

[Haroon786]

The only reason he's in the side is because the rest of our opening options in domestic cricket are crap and you think he'll be able to get into our middle order where we actually have some decent players ?

 

[Syed1]

Yes shift the entire team around just so one guy can be accommodated. Shehzad either learns to perform as an opener or gets dropped.

We have too much batting talent at the moment to be playing people like Shehzad.

 

[hussain.r97]

Batting Shehzad at #4/5 is an absolute disaster. Him being in the team is disastrous enough. #4/5 should be able to rotate the strike, not just block and hit. Shehzad is extremely overrated, and he's a very limited player.

 

[Slog]

Thats as speculative as statement as is mine, but from what you are saying you too are convinced that Shahzad probably looks like Sachin in nets. So we admit the fact that he can definitely bat, just needs his shots to find the gaps instead of the fielders. All he needs to do is turn these early dot balls into singles, he will struggle to do that in the initial powerplay.

He needs to rotate strike which shouldnt be hard for an international level batsman.

When he hits his shots he connects with full power. There is no finesse or deftness in his shots. The ball goes gun barrel straight to the fielder and even if they are in the deep he wont be able to get many singles due to the pace he deposits them at. And worse is that its been this problem for good 4 years now and he still hasnt fixed it at all. He needs to learn how to play with soft hands and play some deft shots and cuts. Also ffs learn how to find the gaps.

tbf in this innings today he did take many more singles and doubles then he tends to. Yes the SR issue was as big as before but atleast there were some singles rather than a boundary followed by several dots like he normally does

 

[JibranAnsari]

Yah to kill all the momentum.

I would rathar have him open.

 

[Convict]

He can't rotate the strike enough to bat at 4 or 5.

 

[Slog]

Also [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]. Lets be honest here. Over 6 years he has proved he is not a super extraordinary talent who could become a Tendulkar level batsmen. He has several flaws in his game which we have talked about in this thread only and any batsmen with that kind of talent wouldnt have them at the same degree as when he first played int'l cricket aftee 6 years in the game.

So why would you change your whole team strategy and lineup just to accomodate him.

He has tools to be successful but he needs to work hard on his game and make a comeback rather than the team accomodating and sacrificing to play him

 

[zabalestmsm]

Why not give Sami Aslam or Fakhar Zaman a go instead?

Sami Aslam was aggressive in his one off ODI innings!

 

[Deosai]

Na, just drop him

He should find himself a good coach, work on his weaknesses for a year and then comeback, otherwise he should never be allowed back if he doesn't improve

 

[Cricket lover 27]

The only reason he's in the side is because the rest of our opening options in domestic cricket are crap and you think he'll be able to get into our middle order where we actually have some decent players ?

Sami Aslam averages 49.50 at a SR of 85 and Babar 46 at SR of 79 in List A since when has other options been crap.

 

[Ahson8]

He can't rotate the strike enough to bat at 4 or 5.

He is our Finch. Infact Finch is much better. He is a poor man's Finch.

 

[Madplayer]

up there with the dumbest suggestions ever. The whole team cannot be shifted to accomodate one guy. Our opening options arent as bad as people are making them out to be. Sami aslam, babar azam, nauman anwar, fakhar zaman, etc etc all can do better than him.

 

[zabalestmsm]

I think the guy is very talented but his biggest Issue is that he gets easily bogged down at the crease. He has all the shots and can accelerate at a very decent pace once he gets himself in. The curent issue we are witnessing is that he takes far too long to get himself going, is clearly struggling to take singles and rotate the strike, thus inviting pressure on himself and the team. I simply think the issue is the fact that hardly any quick singles are on offer for him in the first powerplay. Therefore, most of his shots are hitting the fielders and he continues to accumulate dot balls. The two new ball rule isnt helping him either.

You must look for a solution to this, and the solution isnt to drop one of your finest batting prospects. 10 international hundreds at the age of 23 is remarkable and we must back this fella to thrive. Therefore I believe coming a little bit late down the order might do him a world of good. The field is naturally spread out 85% of the time, therefore a lot more singles are on offer. It is much easier to play yourself in as a middle order batsman as compared to a modern opener, who practically should have got himself in from the 2nd over of the match. You must think of it this way; A player like Ahmad Shahzad would not have been criticized for his batting approach in one day cricket 20 years ago . The fact is, to compete with teams who now set 350 as the par total you must have players batting at strike rates above 100.

I dont want to see Shahzad being wasted the way players like Butt, Farhat, Kamran, Hameed and Hafeez (in the early part of his career) wasted themselves.

If this is the fact, then why are u suggesting for his place in the middle order?

 

[Haroon786]

Sami Aslam averages 49.50 at a SR of 85 and Babar 46 at SR of 79 in List A since when has other options been crap.

Sami was given a chance in Bangladesh and failed, whilst Babar hasn't opened yet IIRC and also they're not fully developed yet, so don't really count as current replacements for opening spots.

 

[Abdullah719]

Sami was given a chance in Bangladesh and failed, whilst Babar hasn't opened yet IIRC and also they're not fully developed yet, so don't really count as current replacements for opening spots.

Sami played one ODI and made 45 off ~50 balls. How is that a failure? Babar opens in List-A matches all the time unless some 'seniors' (Hafeez, Farhat, etc) need to be accommodated, in which case he usually bats at 3. However, the selectors seem to think he is a middle order bat which he isn't. In the longer format, he bats in the middle order which is perfectly al-right.

 

[Haroon786]

Sami played one ODI and made 45 off ~50 balls. How is that a failure? Babar opens in List-A matches all the time unless some 'seniors' (Hafeez, Farhat, etc) need to be accommodated, in which case he usually bats at 3. However, the selectors seem to think he is a middle order bat which he isn't. In the longer format, he bats in the middle order which is perfectly al-right.

Not fully developed - the selectors want him to play in both Test and ODIs and it seems like he will only be integrated when he's ready for both formats.

 

[proud_pakistani]

This is the most awful theory I have heard on how to utilize Shehzad. He is either an opener or not. Him batting at 4 or 5 makes no sense considering how poor he is against spin. He is not good, but I will say decent against fast bowling and that is the only thing which keeps him in the team.

 

[marlonbrowndo]

The guy cant take singles and you want him in middle order? What a joke. Guy shouldnt be playing for us internationally

 

[dashing_man]

sending an opener at no.4-5 or any position other than opening is a time bomb waiting to explode. Hafeez choked, Saeed Anwar chocked, Butt chocked and if done then Ahmed will choke even more.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Dropping him is good for his future honestly. Then he will do sheer hard work in domestic, his hunger to play for the national team will increase.

 

[mudussir khawer]

AHMAD SHEHZAD is a gud opener
He should open the innings for PAKISTAN in all the formats

 

[ExplicitAI]

He's a poor mans Sehwag, a relentless boundary hitter who rarely takes singles and is prone to being weak against the swinging ball on off stump. His SR is a lot worser than Sehwag's and has this obsession with boundaries to score his runs off of.

 

[axl100mph]

just not good enough at the moment. drop him

 

[Rana]

The only reason he's in the side is because the rest of our opening options in domestic cricket are crap and you think he'll be able to get into our middle order where we actually have some decent players ?

Apart from Shoaib Malik, we have no gaurenteed decent option in the middle order im afraid.

 

[Rana]

So many people saying "he cant take singles so he shouldnt be a middle order batsman",,,,,erm guys thats exactly what I said in the first post, that he is failing to take singles in the powerplay because singles are simply not on offer. Thats why its better that he comes and plays at a time where the field is naturally spread out and bowlers are open to the idea of bowling to their field and dont mind the odd single

 

[TheNightWatchman]

Having him at 4 would be even worse. Number 4 batsmen almost always find themselves in a position to consolidate the innings and singles and Doubles are much more important during that stage. And we all know how good Shehzad is at taking those singles and doubles

 

[as-95]

Why is 'must' capitalised in the title? Shouldn't it be 'not' in capitals in order to add emphasis rather than 'must'?

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I agree with the OP. Personally i see shehzad more of a 1 down batsman in ODIs than an opener. Poor OP being jumped at for giving his opinion. Sigh.

 

[Syed1]

I agree with the OP. Personally i see shehzad more of a 1 down batsman in ODIs than an opener. Poor OP being jumped at for giving his opinion. Sigh.

I wonder what your response would have been if OP had asked Shehzad to be dropped and how you would have jumped on him for giving his opinion..

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I wonder what your response would have been if OP had asked Shehzad to be dropped and how you would have jumped on him for giving his opinion..

You obsesses too much over what my responses would be. Not healthy.

 

[Mamoon]

He's a poor mans Sehwag, a relentless boundary hitter who rarely takes singles and is prone to being weak against the swinging ball on off stump. His SR is a lot worser than Sehwag's and has this obsession with boundaries to score his runs off of.

Even a poor man's Sehwag is on a different planet. Sehwag gave India flying starts, while Shehzad craps his pants.

He is Pakistan's Tharanga and a poor man's Ian Bell (the ODI opener).

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Even a poor man's Sehwag is on a different planet. Sehwag gave India flying starts, while Shehzad craps his pants.

He is Pakistan's Tharanga and a poor man's Ian Bell (the ODI opener).

He is equal to chamu chibhabha. If chibhaba got the facilities and training we get, chibhaba would be better

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

Shehzad cannot play spin and you want him to bat in middle order ?

Teach him to play with soft hands and rotate strike.

 

[Hawkeye]

Worst suggestion of the decade award goes to OP.

 

[Syed1]

Shehzad cannot play spin and you want him to bat in middle order ?

Teach him to play with soft hands and rotate strike.

You cannot teach a fish how to fly

 

[Tera Gawaandi]

Shehzad is 26 not 23. Majority of batsmen who debut at young age peak in late 20s and he is on the verge of being dropped after playing 120 international matches.

 

[angrypathan]

You obsesses too much over what my responses would be. Not healthy.

You obsess too much on labelling anyone against Shehzad's selection as someone with an agenda. Not healthy.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

You obsess too much on labelling anyone against Shehzad's selection as someone with an agenda. Not healthy.

When did i tag someone here with them having any agenda against shehzad. Inventing lies is also not healthy.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Actually playing Shehzad in the middle order us useless where strike rotation is even more important. Him playing as an opener is the only reason he has scored tons. Even if he starts off with a poor strike rate, he can make up later if he spends time at the wicket.

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

I think the guy is very talented but his biggest Issue is that he gets easily bogged down at the crease. He has all the shots and can accelerate at a very decent pace once he gets himself in. The curent issue we are witnessing is that he takes far too long to get himself going, is clearly struggling to take singles and rotate the strike, thus inviting pressure on himself and the team. I simply think the issue is the fact that hardly any quick singles are on offer for him in the first powerplay. Therefore, most of his shots are hitting the fielders and he continues to accumulate dot balls. The two new ball rule isnt helping him either.

You must look for a solution to this, and the solution isnt to drop one of your finest batting prospects. 10 international hundreds at the age of 23 is remarkable and we must back this fella to thrive. Therefore I believe coming a little bit late down the order might do him a world of good. The field is naturally spread out 85% of the time, therefore a lot more singles are on offer. It is much easier to play yourself in as a middle order batsman as compared to a modern opener, who practically should have got himself in from the 2nd over of the match. You must think of it this way; A player like Ahmad Shahzad would not have been criticized for his batting approach in one day cricket 20 years ago . The fact is, to compete with teams who now set 350 as the par total you must have players batting at strike rates above 100.

I dont want to see Shahzad being wasted the way players like Butt, Farhat, Kamran, Hameed and Hafeez (in the early part of his career) wasted themselves.

No thanks.

Sarfaraz - Rizwan - Malik - Haris are all better players than him. So NO

 

[Mamoon]

You cannot teach a fish how to fly

Don't insult fish.

 

[in_cutter]

What? You still want him in the ODI side [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]?

 

[ExplicitAI]

Even a poor man's Sehwag is on a different planet. Sehwag gave India flying starts, while Shehzad craps his pants.

He is Pakistan's Tharanga and a poor man's Ian Bell (the ODI opener).

) Then I'd say that Tamim Iqbal is a poor mans Sehwag. Only made this comparison due to his obsession with hitting boundaries but his inability to do so.

 

[Slog]

Lol Shehzad has played as an opener all his life and has himself said he feels more comfortable there but some posters know whats better for him and want him to play at 3,4 or 5. No matter where he plays his performances will be same but whatever makes one feel better.

 

[Syed1]

Even a poor man's Sehwag is on a different planet. Sehwag gave India flying starts, while Shehzad craps his pants.

He is Pakistan's Tharanga and a poor man's Ian Bell (the ODI opener).

Shehzad is a homeless man's Sehwag

 

[Slog]

What? You still want him in the ODI side [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]?

Shehzad fans cannot see clearly.

How else can you keep on propping up a player who has beeen in international cricket for 6 years, averages 34 and strikes at low 70 SR. And has been consistent in his runs and SR output across all captains and years.

The funny thing is that he is not just defended but talked about as some sort of all star super talented batsmen. And he is compared to Hayden, Tendulkar etc and then Shehzad retweets these comparisons and follows it up with 'Thanks to Allah for the success.' Ofcourse a selfie followed by '#hatersgonnahate' follows soon after. Wont be surprised if some Shezzy ka deewana does that to this post soon enough

 

[godzilla]

Worst suggestion of the decade award goes to OP.

there is stiff competitions on pp but i agree with you.

absolutely ridiculous.

 

[theariezman]

Well here I kinda agree.

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[Haroon786]

Apart from Shoaib Malik, we have no gaurenteed decent option in the middle order im afraid.

None of Malik, Sarfraz, Rizwan, Imad, Yamin, Haris Sohail (when fit) are going to get dropped just to accommodate this failure.

 

[Haroon786]

When did i tag someone here with them having any agenda against shehzad. Inventing lies is also not healthy.

Insecure much ?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Shehzad fans cannot see clearly.

How else can you keep on propping up a player who has beeen in international cricket for 6 years, averages 34 and strikes at low 70 SR. And has been consistent in his runs and SR output across all captains and years.

The funny thing is that he is not just defended but talked about as some sort of all star super talented batsmen. And he is compared to Hayden, Tendulkar etc and then Shehzad retweets these comparisons and follows it up with 'Thanks to Allah for the success.' Ofcourse a selfie followed by '#hatersgonnahate' follows soon after. Wont be surprised if some Shezzy ka deewana does that to this post soon enough

Agreed btw [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] why arent you mod anymore

 

[Slog]

Agreed btw [MENTION=138463]Slog[/MENTION] why arent you mod anymore

Have some other commitments which were taking most of my time and resulting in a messed up schedule so couldn't give proper time regularly to modding

 

[gazza619]

Well when I read your thread title, i had planned to thrash your views but after reading thoroughly i think it is worth a try. I would rather see Shehzad in the middle order than the good for nothing Asad Shafique.


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[11ShadyBrothers]

Well when I read your thread title, i had planned to thrash your views but after reading thoroughly i think it is worth a try. I would rather see Shehzad in the middle order than the good for nothing Asad Shafique.


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[Jin Chacha]

Wouldn't it be easier if the management just tells him to play more positively or start packing his bags? If he can't rotate the strike he should atleast attempt some big shots and get out rather than selfishly hang on and block everything. I would rather have him as a pinch hitter because right now he is neither here nor there. With Azhar at the end we don't need him to play sheet anchor.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

another shezzy boy lover thread... Seems like his love to shezzy is declining slowly for his slow S/R... But he doesnt want his buddy to be dropped and wants him to be accommodated in the middle order where the strike rotation is highly needed at no.4 than in the opening,

if he learns to rotate the strike and improve S/R would be better, if he doesnt can always go back to domestic to work on it and come better than he was..

Apart from Shoaib Malik, we have no gaurenteed decent option in the middle order im afraid.

well what a joke..

And Mamoon nailed it as usual...

He is Pakistan's Tharanga and a poor man's Ian Bell (the ODI opener).

So many shezzy fan boys here crying for him to be part of the team somehow when they find more competition now for his place in the side with the comeback of malik and the emergence of haris,immad, rizwan, sarfraz, babar, Yamin and bilal asif.

 

[Slog]

Wouldn't it be easier if the management just tells him to play more positively or start packing his bags? If he can't rotate the strike he should atleast attempt some big shots and get out rather than selfishly hang on and block everything. I would rather have him as a pinch hitter because right now he is neither here nor there. With Azhar at the end we don't need him to play sheet anchor.

they have told him im sure.

its clear they want one opener who stabilizes the innings and holds his end and the one who can attack and plays aggressive cricket.

Azhar due to his performance since WC and as a function of being captain has that role locked down and still managed a good SR around 80 if im not wrong.

Shehzad or someone else has to do the other role. I think he should target 35@90 rather than his current 35@73.

What boggles me is his lack of hitting out, big shots and playing positively in T20Is. He knows his place is locked down and has been given all the confidence in the world by Afridi but still he gets bogged down and plays dot balls

 

[waleed88]

I think the guy is very talented but his biggest Issue is that he gets easily bogged down at the crease. He has all the shots and can accelerate at a very decent pace once he gets himself in. The curent issue we are witnessing is that he takes far too long to get himself going, is clearly struggling to take singles and rotate the strike, thus inviting pressure on himself and the team. I simply think the issue is the fact that hardly any quick singles are on offer for him in the first powerplay. Therefore, most of his shots are hitting the fielders and he continues to accumulate dot balls. The two new ball rule isnt helping him either.

You must look for a solution to this, and the solution isnt to drop one of your finest batting prospects. 10 international hundreds at the age of 23 is remarkable and we must back this fella to thrive. Therefore I believe coming a little bit late down the order might do him a world of good. The field is naturally spread out 85% of the time, therefore a lot more singles are on offer. It is much easier to play yourself in as a middle order batsman as compared to a modern opener, who practically should have got himself in from the 2nd over of the match. You must think of it this way; A player like Ahmad Shahzad would not have been criticized for his batting approach in one day cricket 20 years ago . The fact is, to compete with teams who now set 350 as the par total you must have players batting at strike rates above 100.

I dont want to see Shahzad being wasted the way players like Butt, Farhat, Kamran, Hameed and Hafeez (in the early part of his career) wasted themselves.

Why should we compromise on a specialist player's position just so that this hack can play in a side, trying to justify his talent which he has been unable to do uptil now.

His USP was opening, he himself basked in the glory of being compared to Virat Kohli, of being more talented than Sachin Tendulkar, what happened to all that talent? That swagger. Those stat attacks on his twitter sites comparing him to greats like Ponting and Lara.

Where are all those people who said these things? The guy looks like he's batting with mud under his shoes.

His footwork is of a man stuck in a swamp. Why should we compromise on merit just so that he makes our batting look pedestrian and foolish??

Why????

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[Slog]

another shezzy boy lover thread... Seems like his love to shezzy is declining slowly for his slow S/R... But he doesnt want his buddy to be dropped and wants him to be accommodated in the middle order where the strike rotation is highly needed at no.4 than in the opening,

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thats whats annoying me. Now that even the fanboys have run out of excuses for his failure as an opener they want to change the whole team combination and play him in the middle order knowing fully well that he has not done that at any coompetitive level (domestic or intl) in his whole career.

If someone didnt know his stats or hadnt seen him play they would think we have an AB Devillers-level talented player

 

[ask_analyse_act]

they have told him im sure.

its clear they want one opener who stabilizes the innings and holds his end and the one who can attack and plays aggressive cricket.

Azhar due to his performance since WC and as a function of being captain has that role locked down and still managed a good SR around 80 if im not wrong.

Shehzad or someone else has to do the other role. I think he should target 35@90 rather than his current 35@73.

What boggles me is his lack of hitting out, big shots and playing positively in T20Is. He knows his place is locked down and has been given all the confidence in the world by Afridi but still he gets bogged down and plays dot balls

Here is where the skill comes into play even if you were given mountains of confidence... he doesnt have the skill to play with soft hands and look for gaps, always hits hard straight to the fielder..

 

[waleed88]

they have told him im sure.

its clear they want one opener who stabilizes the innings and holds his end and the one who can attack and plays aggressive cricket.

Azhar due to his performance since WC and as a function of being captain has that role locked down and still managed a good SR around 80 if im not wrong.

Shehzad or someone else has to do the other role. I think he should target 35@90 rather than his current 35@73.

What boggles me is his lack of hitting out, big shots and playing positively in T20Is. He knows his place is locked down and has been given all the confidence in the world by Afridi but still he gets bogged down and plays dot balls

HE IS UNABLE TO PLAY QUICKLY WHY ISN'T IT OBVIOUS TO YOU??

HOW OLD IS HE? 25.

MISBAH AT 41 PLAYS QUICKER THAN HIM AND THERE ARE NO FIELD RESTRICTIONS WHEN MISBAH IS BATTING.

SELFIE CANNOT FIND GAPS. HE ONLY FINDS FIELDERS.

Any score he has under 35. His strike rate is almost 50. That is pathetic for a 25 year old who wants to be the next Virat Kohli.

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[ask_analyse_act]

thats whats annoying me. Now that even the fanboys have run out of excuses for his failure as an opener they want to change the whole team combination and play him in the middle order knowing fully well that he has not done that at any coompetitive level (domestic or intl) in his whole career.

If someone didnt know his stats or hadnt seen him play they would think we have an AB Devillers-level talented player

same happened with UA and afridi fans...they all put their favorite players first and the team second...

 

[Slog]

Here is where the skill comes into play even if you were given mountains of confidence... he doesnt have the skill to play with soft hands and look for gaps, always hits hard straight to the fielder..

yup. Mentioned this earlier

Anyways I have had enough of talking about Shehzad and Shafiq(in ODIs) for a while.

Cant wait for UAE Tests season

 

[waleed88]

thats whats annoying me. Now that even the fanboys have run out of excuses for his failure as an opener they want to change the whole team combination and play him in the middle order knowing fully well that he has not done that at any coompetitive level (domestic or intl) in his whole career.

If someone didnt know his stats or hadnt seen him play they would think we have an AB Devillers-level talented player

Sorry wanted to edit my post but ran out of time.

I thought you were defending his performances.

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[Jin Chacha]

they have told him im sure.

To be honest I think the management is still expecting him to play the role of a conventional opener. The fact that he has several odi hundreds probably leads the management to believe that he should go for a long innings. If however they have told him to be aggressive then they probably need to be more forceful because this certainly isn't working.

 

[The_KING]

Terrible suggestion. Safraz and Malik are perfect at 4 & 5. No need to change their batting positions or drop them just to accommodate this average player who has shown no improvement in 6 years of playing international cricket.

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Terrible suggestion. Safraz and Malik are perfect at 4 & 5. No need to change their batting positions or drop them just to accommodate this average player who has shown no improvement in

6 years of playing international cricket.

this............applies the same with UA... neither learning nor improving.. 6 years of int'l cricket is a lot of time..

 

[Suleiman]

Don't force it. Do you eat cereal in milk with a fork? No because it doesn't work, and there is a better option of using a spoon.

If we already have superior middle order options why do we need to keep him for the sake of keeping him?

Drop him and be done with him until he reestablishes himself in the domestic scene again.

 

[sjahmed23]

It seems once you've received 'talented' stamp of approval in Pakistan it is almost impossible to get kicked out of the team no matter how hard you try...

 

[Rana]

Terrible suggestion. Safraz and Malik are perfect at 4 & 5. No need to change their batting positions or drop them just to accommodate this average player who has shown no improvement in 6 years of playing international cricket.

look man, even West Indies made Gayle bat at 4 or 5 when Pakistan toured them last time round. Simply because he was failing as an opener for them. They didnt drop him to bring in someone in better form as an opener.

There is no statistical proof for anyone to claim Shahzad is 100% likely to fail in the middle order. What has been tried is slowly proving that its not really working out for him, so just check once if the middle order suits him before permanently discarding him.

 

[Rana]

What? You still want him in the ODI side [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION]?

I will always say that he is our most promising young Batsman. I cannot give up on him. I am not a fan boy like some posters have suggested. Im simply telling you from a cricket purists perspective that dropping a talent like him because of a poor strike rate is not the solution. Look for a better way to utilise his ability.

I will also go on record by saying Shahzad is most definetly the cleanest striker in the current young crop, either on par with Umar Akmal or better. Either the management tells him that his role is to back himself and go for the big strikes right from the word go, or let him play his natural game....and that I feel is not so easy for him with the feild up.

my suggestion was just a tactical one, simply on my knowledge of watching and playing cricket for so long.

 

[game_on]

He is a naturally gifted opening batsman who can play shots when the ball is moving around and coming at 150 Kmph which the other Pak batsmen fail to do.Plus he can play controlled hook and pull shots which brought the downfall of his predecessors like Nasir Jamshed,Imran Farhat.
Only problem i see in him is he throws his wicket on a false shot an early stage of the innings. Once he settles down he normally provides the team with a good opening start.


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[Fantasy]

One simple question:

Don't you know that, it is not imperative for the captain to spread the field in non-powerplay overs and let Ahmad Shehzad take singles and help him in his discomfort?

The fact is that captains can still choke him and we all know what is he gonna do.Play a couple of crisp square cuts when there will be width on offer(which he won't get often against quality bowlers),play a string of dot balls and then throw his wicket away by playing a crap shot.

So moral of the story is he is UNFIT to play at national level at this point in time because he has lot of voids to fill.

 

[#GreenRoars]

Just keep him out of the side, send him back to domestic, give him an year and he will become a better version.

 

[Amjid Javed]

A guy who cant play spin or rotate the strike!

OP should get worst Thread of the week award!

 

[in_cutter]

I will always say that he is our most promising young Batsman. I cannot give up on him. I am not a fan boy like some posters have suggested. Im simply telling you from a cricket purists perspective that dropping a talent like him because of a poor strike rate is not the solution. Look for a better way to utilise his ability.

I will also go on record by saying Shahzad is most definetly the cleanest striker in the current young crop, either on par with Umar Akmal or better. Either the management tells him that his role is to back himself and go for the big strikes right from the word go, or let him play his natural game....and that I feel is not so easy for him with the feild up.

my suggestion was just a tactical one, simply on my knowledge of watching and playing cricket for so long.

Being promising is one thing but not delivering is another. He needs a solid season in domestic cricket.