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Alastair Cook made Adil Rashid bowl 31 overs on the trot : Excessive, unfair to the bowler?

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Just mind boggling and ridiculous.

Poor guy is being bowled to the ground.

Rashid was trying really hard even when he was super tired.

Cmon Cooky, we know you are under pressure but this isn't cool.
 
That's a bit excessive.

But shouldn't Rashid be saying to the captain, if he is fatigued, that cmon captain, give me a breather for 15 minutes or so.

I mean, Cook might have other things on his mind.

But the bowler should stand out and say , "Hey Cap, I've done 20 on the trot, I fancy a break for 15 minutes, is it okay".

Just my opinion.
 
Yeah, what the hell was that. The poor guy looked exhausted.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
That's a bit excessive.

But shouldn't Rashid be saying to the captain, if he is fatigued, that cmon captain, give me a breather for 15 minutes or so.

I mean, Cook might have other things on his mind.

But the bowler should stand out and say , "Hey Cap, I've done 20 on the trot, I fancy a break for 15 minutes, is it okay".

Just my opinion.
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Rashid was literally huffing and puffing and bowling.

So not like he would have wanted to bowl while he barely could.

How can a captain be so busy to not notice his spinner bowling 2 tired long hops every over?

Not saying Cook forced him but you know some compulsions about team needing Rashid would have made him go on and on.
 
Should have given more overs to Stokes. He can be expensive but knows how to take wickets.
 
Anderson - a guy who's taken 400+ wickets was given the quota of a part-timer.

They should have Jayant Yadav nicked behind off of him before the close of play but Root grassed it.
 
Someome remind Cook the British Raj and the days of working the brown folk into the dust is over.

Only kidding, seriously the issue is England's dearth of quality spinners. Rashid is the only half-decent one in the squad so naturally the onus is on him.
 
Reminds me of Inzy bowling Kaneria into the ground.

Sth like 35-40 overs in a day
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Rashid was literally huffing and puffing and bowling.

So not like he would have wanted to bowl while he barely could.

How can a captain be so busy to not notice his spinner bowling 2 tired long hops every over?

Not saying Cook forced him but you know some compulsions about team needing Rashid would have made him go on and on.
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I think we know Cook is a mediocre captain.

Probably didn't even notice that the bowler was bowling for 31 overs straight.

Was more likely irked at long hops every over, and thought, let it be. He is our spinner and maybe he'll pick up a wicket.
 
Unbelievable. Anything over 15 is too much! Rashid bowled 31 straight. Cook should be counting his overs. Terrible captaincy by an average captain.
 
Even Ali has bowled a lot of overs, to bowl 89 overs in between them is a lot, they will feel the tiredness even tomorrow.
 
I was at the ground. It was exceedingly hot. I am exhausted by just spending a day in the stands. Can't imagine how difficult it must have been for the bowler.
 
Meh, if an old man like Zulfikar Babar can bowl 70+ overs in an innings (vs England in the UAE last year) I'm sure Rashid will be fine.

Jokes aside, he should have spoken to Cook and requested a rest. It's no secret that England captains are rubbish at handling spinners therefore the bowler himself needs to dictate things a bit more (like Swann used to).
 
On that note, kaneria in multan and harbhajan and kumble on many sl and pak tours rember the "world record" 1997 match were over bowled and I remember hirwani in late 80s having the same grind or for that matter that spinner in lara 400 match....or kumble in 1997 wi with a broken jaw....some times these nightmarish days happen. In my opinion, no sympathy required and also that guy rashid was spinning good and if he had taken kohli at that moment, then whole game complexion would have changed...fact is england were 1 goos spinner short and 1 container / stifler ala yadav short...their selection of touring team got exposed....
 
Cook played with two spinners here and bowled both of them to ground. Out of 4 pacers, few got to bowl only handful of overs till the new ball was taken. Yah, Eng is short of good spinners, but if you are still going to bowl only spinners then have spinners ahead of pacers for such matches.
 
Ind_Fan said:
On that note, kaneria in multan and harbhajan and kumble on many sl and pak tours rember the "world record" 1997 match were over bowled and I remember hirwani in late 80s having the same grind or for that matter that spinner in lara 400 match....or kumble in 1997 wi with a broken jaw....some times these nightmarish days happen. In my opinion, no sympathy required and also that guy rashid was spinning good and if he had taken kohli at that moment, then whole game complexion would have changed...fact is england were 1 goos spinner short and 1 container / stifler ala yadav short...their selection of touring team got exposed....
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Record is with Narendra Hirwani. .has bowled 58 overs on trot in oval againstEngland
 
if this was MSD who did it ... we would never hear the end of it .. :)) different yardsticks for different people i suppose ?
 
Is it? I think its that gooch 333 and kapil's famous 4 6's off john emburey to save follow on match, think it is in 1990
 
This what happens when you dont have a spinner. Funny thing is this guy wouldnt even make it into asia teams. Terrible spinner.
 
31 overs in a day does not seem excessive to me for a spinner. Botham would bowl more than that in a day when he was FM.

The problem was that the England seamers were not getting it to move off the straight,. so the spinners had to keep going.
 
Robert said:
31 overs in a day does not seem excessive to me for a spinner. Botham would bowl more than that in a day when he was FM.

The problem was that the England seamers were not getting it to move off the straight,. so the spinners had to keep going.
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Gee wonder who selected 1 full spinner and 4 seamers on this pitch
 
Lol and people say Misbah runs Yasir into the ground. Cook once bowled Anderson for 13 overs in a row in an ashes test match in 2013. So he has previous
 
Robert said:
31 overs in a day does not seem excessive to me for a spinner. Botham would bowl more than that in a day when he was FM.

The problem was that the England seamers were not getting it to move off the straight,. so the spinners had to keep going.
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It is much tougher for a wrist spinner as he hast to impart more energy than a finger spinner. Not a very good idea.
 
Leggies need to be handled carefully, besides the excessive wear and tear it would have done Rashid's physical the psychological is also affected he may not have been quite there mentally and his confidence would not have been done a world of good and thus his rhythm would have been affected negatively
 
Robert said:
31 overs in a day does not seem excessive to me for a spinner. Botham would bowl more than that in a day when he was FM.

The problem was that the England seamers were not getting it to move off the straight,. so the spinners had to keep going.
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We are talking 31 overs on a trot. Not in a day.
 
Should have went with three spinners in this match. Woakes has been wasted completely by making him play in these conditions when his captain dont want to use him. Him and Stokes bowled only 8 overs in the inning while the spinners were made to bowl 45 overs each.

And 31 overs on trot is simply ridiculous of a guy who has already led his team to series victory in this country last time.
 
I read somewhere Bapu Nadkarni bowling 29 overs on a trot !!!! I am sure, in these days of political correctness, Rashid was not forced to bowl 31 overs on trot ..... they must have talked it over in between overs as to can Rashid bowl any more or not. For all we know ..... Rashid may even have volunteered to bowl that many, thinking his captain needs his services ..... may be ????
 
Major said:
This what happens when you dont have a spinner. Funny thing is this guy wouldnt even make it into asia teams. Terrible spinner.
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Terrible spinner who reduced Misbah and his warriors to nothing in the first test in UAE before bad lights saved us.
 
Thivagar said:
It is much tougher for a wrist spinner as he hast to impart more energy than a finger spinner. Not a very good idea.
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Ah, fair point, though what was Cook to do given that his seamers were all ineffective? Pick another spinner in the first place, I guess, or at least bowl Root more.
 
Cook is as poor a captain as Mohammad Yousuf. He has a good united team,

Playing the same bowler again and again is alot easier. In this case Rashid and moeen. He could have attacked with Woakes, stokes or anderson and should have made bowling changes.

Root should be made captain for future. Cook barformance has been average as a captain and as a batsman..
 
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