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252 runs at 19.38

If there is a time to stand up, it is today. They may yet lose the game, but he can secure his spot for the foreseeable with a good knock. After all, England can't afford to let go of both Cook and Jennings at the same time.
 
Varun said:
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14
70
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252 runs at 19.38

If there is a time to stand up, it is today. They may yet lose the game, but he can secure his spot for the foreseeable with a good knock. After all, England can't afford to let go of both Cook and Jennings at the same time.
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If I remember correctly, even the Melbourne one was in a dead rubber ?

It seems that he has not been contributing for a long long time...
 
He is unnecessarily being carried by England team. He hasn't done much of note from many many years i.e. back since the success he had in India series in 2012.

Since then, he averaged in 30s in 2013 and 2014 but had a good year in 2015 where he got the luxury to face Rahat/wahab/Imran on Abu Dhabi track and also had a WI tour as well.

After that he again went to slump and barring a few fifties and a couple of useless double hundred, he is just being carrying by England team management till now.

A test career whose legacy sums up by longevity but unfortunately not much to look beyond that. An England great.
 
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Cook is the worst batsman to score 10k runs, that includes Jayawardena. At least Jayawardena used to destroy opponents at home consistently. Cook can't even do that.
 
Cook is at exactly the same stage that Younis Khan and Misbah were at between 2010-2017 and that Gordon Greenidge was at in his final years.

His reflexes have dulled slightly and his eyes don't work like they used to.

He will fail 1/3 of the time, make a mediocre score almost all the rest of the time, and once per series he will make a big score on an easy pitch with no pace in it.

These batsmen tend to be picked for 3-5 years too long, because their class means that their one good score per series tends to be huge, so their average remains largely intact. And they cash in in the UAE!

But if you think about it:

Younis let down his team in:

5 innings out of 6 in South Africa in 2012-13
6 innings out of 7 in England in 2016
4 innings out of 4 in New Zealand in 2016-17
4 innings out of 6 in Australia in 2016-17.

Misbah was no different: he filled his boots at Lords in 2016 when Anderson and Stokes were absent injured, then crashed back down to earth.
 
I get the feeling this innings + the rest of the series will determine his future. I don't follow county cricket but is this a case of there not being an opening prospect to replace Cook and to give a long rope in test cricket, meaning ECB telling Cook to not retire yet? Or is there such an individual(s) and Cook's just being selfish?
 
End is near I think. It is frustrating to see him edging out after scoring 20 -30 in almost every match now.

I hope mutually retires rather than getting dropped.
 
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Always has been overrated in my opinion. Against better bowlers he's always found out. People will point to his stats but stats aren't always the ultimate barometer of ones greatness.
 
A nothing player now.Overrated and way past his prime,but an English ATG nonetheless.

Doesn’t matter if he scores big today.The fact is he needs to be replaced by someone more consistent.
 
Varun said:
If there is a time to stand up, it is today. They may yet lose the game, but he can secure his spot for the foreseeable with a good knock. After all, England can't afford to let go of both Cook and Jennings at the same time.
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Unfortunately gets out for 17 today.

Jennings out for cheap as well.
 
Most useless batsman in the world now. Doesn't even play ODIs so what's his excuse for being so garbage in tests?
 
Cook and Hashim are pretty much going the same way. Happens to many players at this age. The point in favor of both of them is that there are other players within the team who are doing worse, so the axe will not fall on them for the time being. They can still turn it around i believe.

I recently read Ian Bell wants to make a comeback into the national side, considering the number of middle order players Eng have tried over the last few years, I'd say why not?
 
sam_ahm said:
Cook and Hashim are pretty much going the same way. Happens to many players at this age. The point in favor of both of them is that there are other players within the team who are doing worse, so the axe will not fall on them for the time being. They can still turn it around i believe.

I recently read Ian Bell wants to make a comeback into the national side, considering the number of middle order players Eng have tried over the last few years, I'd say why not?
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Bell has been in great form and the left-handers are struggling against swing bowling at the top of the order. Perhaps he could even be tried as a stop-gap opener.

Nonetheless, it is time to bring him back. He can do a job for a couple of years.
 
Mamoon said:
Bell has been in great form and the left-handers are struggling against swing bowling at the top of the order. Perhaps he could even be tried as a stop-gap opener.

Nonetheless, it is time to bring him back. He can do a job for a couple of years.
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Bell is another of those players who had a good few years in the middle but never recovered from the mauling in the 2013/14 Ashes.

I'm not sure why bringing him in is a good idea at this age, much rather invest in a younger player with lots of potential.
 
Sherlock said:
Always has been overrated in my opinion. Against better bowlers he's always found out. People will point to his stats but stats aren't always the ultimate barometer of ones greatness.
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Overcame Johnson in three series out of four.

But he is an old warhorse whose glory days have passed. Time to go back to Essex or maybe retire to his farm.
 
He's single-handedly stank up the rarefied 10k club. He doesn't belong there.
 
Obviously he is past his best years but one shouldn't write off a class act like Cook.

Idk if England will continue with him but if they do I'm sure he will turn it around. He may not be able to return to his best but I feel he still has runs left in him.

10k runs is not a matter of joke. Especially when you're an opener playing mostly in England.

Cook deserves his place in the pages of cricket history. There's a reason why he is only 1 of 2 openers ever to rake up 10k runs.
 
I wonder if he will pack it in after this series.

Been a great player for us but his eyes have gone completely.
 
He is the opposite of English players who retire so early, tbfhe hasdonemuch better than most English batsmen could ever think of, his Indian series win and being undefeated in one of the longest stints at at home, should be appreciated.

Hopefully he retires with grace.
 
James said:
I wonder if he will pack it in after this series.
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Won't leave until the Ashes vs Australia next year. He is quite stubborn - check out the way he had to be crowbared out of the ODI job.
 
James said:
I wonder if he will pack it in after this series.

Been a great player for us but his eyes have gone completely.
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This morning Botham was defending him again and then it transpired that he is good friends with Cooke. The guy needs to be retired.
 
Poor Younis and Misbah have retired yet you’re still having a go.

They may have been inconsistent away from home but at least they were performing at home until the very end. Cook has been poor both home and away.



Junaids said:
Cook is at exactly the same stage that Younis Khan and Misbah were at between 2010-2017 and that Gordon Greenidge was at in his final years.

His reflexes have dulled slightly and his eyes don't work like they used to.

He will fail 1/3 of the time, make a mediocre score almost all the rest of the time, and once per series he will make a big score on an easy pitch with no pace in it.

These batsmen tend to be picked for 3-5 years too long, because their class means that their one good score per series tends to be huge, so their average remains largely intact. And they cash in in the UAE!

But if you think about it:

Younis let down his team in:

5 innings out of 6 in South Africa in 2012-13
6 innings out of 7 in England in 2016
4 innings out of 4 in New Zealand in 2016-17
4 innings out of 6 in Australia in 2016-17.

Misbah was no different: he filled his boots at Lords in 2016 when Anderson and Stokes were absent injured, then crashed back down to earth.
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You may be right but why is Cooke given a free ride by the press including people like Hussain, Botham etc?
 
James said:
I wonder if he will pack it in after this series.

Been a great player for us but his eyes have gone completely.
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He will be selected until the end of the Ashes next year. I cant see england bring in a new opener in the next year to replace cook.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Poor Younis and Misbah have retired yet you’re still having a go.

They may have been inconsistent away from home but at least they were performing at home until the very end. Cook has been poor both home and away.
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For English players playing at home is equivalent to them playing away, that's how PP judges English players.
 
Where's Haseeb Hameed these days? I haven't been following English cricket for a couple of years now
 
Cook has been bad for ages but whoever has been his opening partner has been worse. That has meant cooks survived been dropped. If someone had taken the chance as opener alongside cook in last few years then cook would have been dropped ages ago. Its clear england would rather keep playing cook instead of picking to inexperienced openers.
 
Perhaps he just needs a break - back to his farm, deliver a few lambs etc and then see what he's like once he's mentally refreshed.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
Perhaps he just needs a break - back to his farm, deliver a few lambs etc and then see what he's like once he's mentally refreshed.
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Should've provided us with some Qurbani meat, might have helped him focus on other things other than cricket and Ishant Sharma :)
 
This guy's gonna deliver yet again and the naysayers are gonna get bamboozled just like when Pandya turned the tide recently.
 
The English top order has been struggling for a while and the middle and lower order have pulled them out quite a few times recently. Bairstow, Moeen, Stokes et all have carried the burden for quite some time now. Root has forgotten how to make big scores, Cook cannot get any score, Jennings will be happy if he can stay in the middle of 15 overs and Pope is too young at the moment.
 
giri26 said:
The English top order has been struggling for a while and the middle and lower order have pulled them out quite a few times recently. Bairstow, Moeen, Stokes et all have carried the burden for quite some time now. Root has forgotten how to make big scores, Cook cannot get any score, Jennings will be happy if he can stay in the middle of 15 overs and Pope is too young at the moment.
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Doesn't matter if he's young or old - from what I've read Pope appears to be a Suresh Raina type LoI slogger at #6 they're trying to make work at #4 in the test team.
 
How long will Cook be carried by Eng? I think he'd be going to SL for sure, considering his experience of such conditions.
 
Time to look past him, he isn't good enough for international cricket now.
 
He may yet go to Sri Lanka and to be fair he might do well there. He is very good at grinding runs and boring the opposition to death on slow dusty wickets.

Seems to have gone full turkey against even half decent fast-medium bowling though. Shockingly bad season for him.
 
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