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I think by now it is pretty obvious that his antics from day one were to blackmail the PCB into re-selling him the Multan Sultans team at a discounted rate.

He wasn't just publically criticizing the PCB, PSL but he has actually been making fun of the PCB, PSL as a league and he even called Salman Naseer the Usman Buzdar of Pakistan Cricket.

Not a single PSL Franchise owner came out in public to defend him or stand with him.

The PCB played a master stroke by ignoring him, not responding to his rants in the media and also by not black listing him from the auction.

What was he trying to prove or do by pulling out of the auction on the day of the auction?
 
He should be history now. Enough topi drama for a lifetime.

I just hope the other franchises know what they purchased because any more drama like this in the future will just ruin the reputation of the league.
 
His money, his accounts, he can do whatever he wants with it.

He was not violating any contracts.

We are used to seeing our Pakistani players follow the PCB contract and not speak up, that when we see guys like Ali Tareen say stuff where they are not bound by a contract, we feel uneasy.

His criticism is valid, and exposes how flawed the league is. The other day @KB made the rare appearance on the cricket forum, and he said one thing which i really liked, that just because something represents our country doesnt mean we should refrain from criticizing it.
 
Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2018979143132782962

This guy is back at it again. He might well go all out to re-acquire Multan franchise but I honestly won’t trust him to keep the atmosphere harmonious for a single second.

PCB really should not have approved his accreditation to re-bid
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He is asking dumb question. Categories were based on pcb assesment and pcb set base price for that category. Now lets say usman tariq base price was 2 cr. But he doesnt want to be retained at that price and feels like he ll fetch more in auction then the franchise can negotiate on price. Whats so surprising in this.

Nevertheless karachi should have retained none of these. They would ve gotten khushdil at much lower in auction. He isnt a high demand cricketer. Or they could ve gone after maaz sadaqat or saim they are better allrounders
 
Hyder said:
He is asking dumb question. Categories were based on pcb assesment and pcb set base price for that category. Now lets say usman tariq base price was 2 cr. But he doesnt want to be retained at that price and feels like he ll fetch more in auction then the franchise can negotiate on price. Whats so surprising in this.

Nevertheless karachi should have retained none of these. They would ve gotten khushdil at much lower in auction. He isnt a high demand cricketer. Or they could ve gone after maaz sadaqat or saim they are better allrounders
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Khushdil is one of the best players in Pakistan in his position I think he would have been in reasonable demand.
 
Hyder said:
He is asking dumb question. Categories were based on pcb assesment and pcb set base price for that category. Now lets say usman tariq base price was 2 cr. But he doesnt want to be retained at that price and feels like he ll fetch more in auction then the franchise can negotiate on price. Whats so surprising in this.

Nevertheless karachi should have retained none of these. They would ve gotten khushdil at much lower in auction. He isnt a high demand cricketer. Or they could ve gone after maaz sadaqat or saim they are better allrounders
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his issue isnt the money rate of players. His issue is the categorization of players which is ridiculous and makes no sense. And alot of people have questioned this.

PCB applies a limit on how many plats and diamonds etc you can keep. Now in your eyes Andre Russel maybe plat, but in my eyes he might be gold. Point is, it should be free market.
 
Major said:
his issue isnt the money rate of players. His issue is the categorization of players which is ridiculous and makes no sense. And alot of people have questioned this.

PCB applies a limit on how many plats and diamonds etc you can keep. Now in your eyes Andre Russel maybe plat, but in my eyes he might be gold. Point is, it should be free market.
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How is this different from the base price set in other leagues like IPL?
 
Major said:
Base price is for auction. Im saying free market should exist. No bases
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Base prices exist for a reason, and that reason is that cricket is a very top-heavy sport. A handful of stars attract most of the demand and money, while the majority of players sit in a completely different tier.

Without base prices, teams would blow huge chunks of their budget on two or three big names and then pick up everyone else for next to nothing. That doesn’t create a fair market, it just concentrates wealth at the top. Base prices protect domestic talent from being lowballed and force teams to actually build proper squads instead of gaming the auction.

Cricket isn’t football with open transfers and unlimited rosters. It has salary caps, small squads, and massive gaps in star power. Base prices are necessary to stop the whole thing from devolving into chaos.

It’s basically the same logic as the NFL rookie wage scale - they don’t let teams throw insane money at one draft pick while everyone else gets crumbs.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Base prices exist for a reason, and that reason is that cricket is a very top-heavy sport. A handful of stars attract most of the demand and money, while the majority of players sit in a completely different tier.

Without base prices, teams would blow huge chunks of their budget on two or three big names and then pick up everyone else for next to nothing. That doesn’t create a fair market, it just concentrates wealth at the top. Base prices protect domestic talent from being lowballed and force teams to actually build proper squads instead of gaming the auction.

Cricket isn’t football with open transfers and unlimited rosters. It has salary caps, small squads, and massive gaps in star power. Base prices are necessary to stop the whole thing from devolving into chaos.

It’s basically the same logic as the NFL rookie wage scale - they don’t let teams throw insane money at one draft pick while everyone else gets crumbs.
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Thats why have market cap. When you have market cap, than teams know how much they should spend. Assuming a market cap of 50m US Dollars, If a star batter like Butler is getting 8 million US dollars and someone like Agha goes for 2M, thats a fair price.

Thats how NHL works. Only difference is that a rookie player with an entry contract is not all to go over US 950k, only the rookie players have a cap on them for the first three years so that they dont get over paid, but a limit doesnt exist.

The onus should be on the player whether to accept or reject the contract.

base prices exists because we go into a draft every year with the players being forcefully release, instead of having teams sign players for x years and having the option to retina 100% of the squad.

Base price and draft categories only exists due to Auction drama and Drafting drama
 
Major said:
Thats why have market cap. When you have market cap, than teams know how much they should spend. Assuming a market cap of 50m US Dollars, If a star batter like Butler is getting 8 million US dollars and someone like Agha goes for 2M, thats a fair price.

Thats how NHL works. Only difference is that a rookie player with an entry contract is not all to go over US 950k, only the rookie players have a cap on them for the first three years so that they dont get over paid, but a limit doesnt exist.

The onus should be on the player whether to accept or reject the contract.

base prices exists because we go into a draft every year with the players being forcefully release, instead of having teams sign players for x years and having the option to retina 100% of the squad.

Base price and draft categories only exists due to Auction drama and Drafting drama
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You’re describing a system that works because players aren’t thrown back into an auction/draft every year.

Salary caps go hand in hand with long-term contracts and retention. Cricket doesn’t have that with most players getting released every year into the auction/draft. Even if you wanted to do something like signing players to long-term contracts, you couldn't do, because demand, player availability, injuries, or someone simply not being the same player they were one year ago are major factors that make long-term deals in a league like PSL an improbable proposition. This is something even IPL franchises have not been able to pull off despite MI trying to sign someone like Archer to a long-term deal that would have made him give up his England central contract.

Even in a league like the NHL they had to add artificial limits to protect certain players because the pure market doesn’t behave fairly.

In a yearly auction with tiny squads and massive star gaps, removing base prices would create extreme concentration at the top. There needs to be a wage floor to ensure the local players make a certain amount of guaranteed money and aren't exploited.
 
Major said:
his issue isnt the money rate of players. His issue is the categorization of players which is ridiculous and makes no sense. And alot of people have questioned this.

PCB applies a limit on how many plats and diamonds etc you can keep. Now in your eyes Andre Russel maybe plat, but in my eyes he might be gold. Point is, it should be free market.
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Categories were there just for the retentions..no?? Auction will be open ig. It should be open with players able to decide their base price
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
You’re describing a system that works because players aren’t thrown back into an auction/draft every year.

Salary caps go hand in hand with long-term contracts and retention. Cricket doesn’t have that with most players getting released every year into the auction/draft. Even if you wanted to do something like signing players to long-term contracts, you couldn't do, because demand, player availability, injuries, or someone simply not being the same player they were one year ago are major factors that make long-term deals in a league like PSL an improbable proposition. This is something even IPL franchises have not been able to pull off despite MI trying to sign someone like Archer to a long-term deal that would have made him give up his England central contract.

Even in a league like the NHL they had to add artificial limits to protect certain players because the pure market doesn’t behave fairly.

In a yearly auction with tiny squads and massive star gaps, removing base prices would create extreme concentration at the top. There needs to be a wage floor to ensure the local players make a certain amount of guaranteed money and aren't exploited.
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But thats what i am saying that i want psl to copy nhl rather than copying ipl.

You can have contracts of 5 years, 8 years etc
 
Major said:
But thats what i am saying that i want psl to copy nhl rather than copying ipl.

You can have contracts of 5 years, 8 years etc
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RedwoodOriginal said:
...Cricket doesn’t have that with most players getting released every year into the auction/draft. Even if you wanted to do something like signing players to long-term contracts, you couldn't do it, because demand, player availability, injuries, or someone simply not being the same player they were one year ago are major factors that make long-term deals in a league like PSL an improbable proposition. This is something even IPL franchises have not been able to pull off despite MI trying to sign someone like Archer to a long-term deal that would have made him give up his England central contract.
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Rana said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/2018979143132782962

This guy is back at it again. He might well go all out to re-acquire Multan franchise but I honestly won’t trust him to keep the atmosphere harmonious for a single second.

PCB really should not have approved his accreditation to re-bid
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You’re right in pointing out that he doesn’t have the right to speak against authority. It’s Pakistan, not a free country. We are surprised he’s not been put behind bars for this.
 
Rana said:
You love his questions

You love his attitude

It’s no surprise.

I have no answer.
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Where have I said that I love him or his attitude...

He asked a question, if you don't have answer than maybe skip this thread... simple
 
@Rana So far from what has panned out. I sense that Ali is not a very smart bloke. He made questionable decisions for his franchise and it backfired massively.
 
I am hoping this drama is all leading the way for him to return. Ali bhais axe to grind can be a nice story for PSL.
 
Major said:
But thats what i am saying that i want psl to copy nhl rather than copying ipl.

You can have contracts of 5 years, 8 years etc
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Thats a very poor take. Cricket is only played in a select few countries. No need for long term contracts.
 
Savak said:
Childish antics like this is why i hope the PCB stays clear of him. The guy has zero professionalism. Other Franchise owners should be nervous being around this man child who goes on social media and posts whatever he feels like and leaks whatever he feels like just because he didn't get his way.
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He acts like a teenage girl, always PMSing. Hate the sight of him. Please make sure he doesnt get MS again, PCB. No fan wants this donkey to be near Pakistan cricket again. Hes just a loser who is son of a corrupt insider trader, trying to flex his wealth. He can take a hike.
 
He is clearly an attention seeker with a big ego and loves dramabazi - this will naturally clash with the egos in the PCB. It might be entertaining for a bit but to be honest these antics get boring after a while, I'd rather just watch cricket.
 
Well have to admit, his antics ended up resulting in destroying the Multan franchise. I did not see that coming.

He will be the most hated person in Multan now.

It makes no sense that when he was getting a renewal at 110 carores, why did he release his team only to go back to the auction? If money was the issue, he could had sold its shares in family or friends.

He gave away a 110 carore team, only for the PCB to make 150 carores more on it.

Ended up destroying a legacy
 
The other day i was really sad that Rawalpindi was not going to have its own franchise in this league, and than this happened :)
 
Major said:
why did he release his team only to go back to the auction? If money was the issue, he could had sold its shares in family or friends.
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I think he wanted to get a cheaper deal. Remember how he was thrashing PSL last year? That was one tactic to dilute PSL's image.

Good riddance in the end that it ended up costing him his franchise. He played his hand too much and PCB called his bluff.

That's the only thing I could think. Otherwise it makes him a stupid business owner.
 
One must also question. If Multan Sultans were going at such a lose for Ali Tareen. Then why did we now see so many interested parties bidding 5X more than the initial value of Multan that was offered for renewal to Ali?

Walee Tech not only did bought a team for X times more money. They also are going to start from scratch with Rawalpindi.
 
RidiculousMan said:
I think he wanted to get a cheaper deal. Remember how he was thrashing PSL last year? That was one tactic to dilute PSL's image.

Good riddance in the end that it ended up costing him his franchise. He played his hand too much and PCB called his bluff.

That's the only thing I could think. Otherwise it makes him a stupid business owner.
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On top of it, he made some pretty bad enemies in the PCB. They were not going to be shown up by this pompous, arrogant silver spoon kid.

Hats of to Salman Naseer. He systematically schooled and destroyed Ali Tareen
 
Should the PCB sell off the Multan Sultans franchise to someone who is actually interested in the team for real?

It feels strange to have had a franchise team for 6 years with an established brand only for it to not exist anymore at all. Multans also has a proper stadium. Whats the logic in hosting PSL games in Multan when there is no home team?
 
A bit unprofessional from the PCB as Salman directly mocked Ali Tareen. Dont go down his level atleast
 
Maza aagaya, hahahaha, love the fact that we will now never hear of this troll for a long long time. Solid auction from PCB.
 
Major said:
A bit unprofessional from the PCB as Salman directly mocked Ali Tareen. Dont go down his level atleast
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Lets be honest Ali Tareen had crossed too many lines. He even called Salman Naseer as the Usman Buzdar of the PSL. Salman Naseer's stock has gone up with the last two auctions.
 
Savak said:
Lets be honest Ali Tareen had crossed too many lines. He even called Salman Naseer as the Usman Buzdar of the PSL. Salman Naseer's stock has gone up with the last two auctions.
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Salman Naseer was the one that got suspended for the Andy Pycroft incident?
 
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