Aliens and ‘Galactic Federation’ exist, ex-Israeli space chief claims

[KingKhanWC]

There is allegedly a Galactic Federation of alien species among the stars — and they don’t want humans to be part of their club.

A former head of Israel‘s military space program claims that extraterrestrials have made contact with officials in the United States and Israel over the years, but the aliens won’t come out in public because they worry people will freak out.

In other words, they’ve done their homework.

“Humanity isn’t ready,” professor and retired Israeli general Haim Eshed said this week, during an interview with the Hebrew-language paper Yediot Aharonot. Eshed told the paper that aliens are already among us on Earth, and that several species have formed a “Galactic Federation” akin to the one seen in Star Trek, according to translations by the Jerusalem Post.

He also suggested that the U.S. and Israel have been collaborating with aliens on space travel for years, and that U.S. President Donald Trump was “on the verge” of revealing their existence.

Eshed, 87, spoke to the paper while promoting his upcoming book, The Universe Beyond the Horizon. His claims are wide-ranging, Earth-shaking and unverified, but his credentials are hard to ignore. He previously served as a top official in Israel’s military space program from 1981 until 2010, and was responsible for the country’s Ofek satellite project.

Eshed did not provide specifics about Trump’s supposed near-slip, but the president did speak about the issue earlier this year.

Trump claimed in June that he had heard “very interesting” things about Roswell, the New Mexico city known for an alleged UFO event in 1947.

“I won’t talk to you about what I know about it, but it’s very interesting,” Trump said at the time.

Read more: Winnipeg UFO expert calls alien civilization research an ‘educated guess’

The president has used similar language in the past to tease other bits of supposed secret knowledge, including his false claims of election fraud in recent weeks.

Trump has not made any specific revelations about aliens during his term, but he did found the Space Force as a new branch of the U.S. military.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7508152/aliens-galactic-federation-israel-trump/

Shame on the US and Israel for hiding this from the world! We all know Israelis are smartest people, no wonder the Aliens came all this way to meet them.

 

[JaDed]

Lol.. am sorry but that was funny ) the world has become full of educated conspiracists.


“There is allegedly a Galactic Federation of alien species among the stars — and they don’t want humans to be part of their club”

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol.. am sorry but that was funny ) the world has become full of educated conspiracists.


“There is allegedly a Galactic Federation of alien species among the stars — and they don’t want humans to be part of their club”

This is the ex-head of the Israeli Space Defence programme, he cant be making this up!

In another report he mentions they have a base deep inside the moon or mars. Surely we need to send the USAF and Will Smith to say hi?

 

[Romali_rotti]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7508152/aliens-galactic-federation-israel-trump/

Shame on the US and Israel for hiding this from the world! We all know Israelis are smartest people, no wonder the Aliens came all this way to meet them.

To your article, if it is true, I dont find it surprising Aliens do not want nothing to do with Humans.

Looks at us:::

We are a disease, we use up all the resources, cause all the pollution, suck the life of whatever we have and once we have destroyed everything we move onto to the next (We are now trying to move to Mars because Earth is running out of resources).. I seriously hope Aliens exterminate all humans, as we are are a very dangerous species..

 

[Bewal Express]

Does he have a book to sell?

 

[Colorblind Genius]

This is probably just an effort to divert world's attention while they quickly do some dirty work behind the scenes.
I dont think those top level Israelis are THIS stupid to actually believe in such statements.

 

[KingKhanWC]

To your article, if it is true, I dont find it surprising Aliens do not want nothing to do with Humans.

Looks at us:::

We are a disease, we use up all the resources, cause all the pollution, suck the life of whatever we have and once we have destroyed everything we move onto to the next (We are now trying to move to Mars because Earth is running out of resources).. I seriously hope Aliens exterminate all humans, as we are are a very dangerous species..

According to the IDF space geninus, the Aliens want us to work with to solve the mysteries of the univerese. We cant even solve the borders between nations or famine, hunger, disease. I think once these Aliens get bored of drinking Earths vodka, they will realise we are worthless and do what you have suggested.

Or perhaps they are here only speaking to US and Israel as they want them gone for a better planet, now that would make sense.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Does he have a book to sell?

Yes its called 'The Universe Beyond the Horizon'.

This is probably just an effort to divert world's attention while they quickly do some dirty work behind the scenes.
I dont think those top level Israelis are THIS stupid to actually believe in such statements.

He was the head for 30 years. He believes contact was made during Trumps presidency. He also believes Trump knows but was told by the Aliens to keep hush.

Remember this isnt out of the blue, the Pentagon confirmed this year they have alien programmes. As well as new reported sightings and videos.

Im just upset aliens always look green, small or ugly. Why cant they be beautiful women?

 

[Shariq7]

So aliens exist but Trump hasn't tweeted about them? Yeah, okay Haim Eshed!

 

[Rana]

Can the Israelis please do us all a favour and find flight MH370?

Pehle apne masle Hal kar lo and then we can try finding aliens

 

[KingKhanWC]

So aliens exist but Trump hasn't tweeted about them? Yeah, okay Haim Eshed!

He did one better, an interview on aliens.

Trump appears to threaten aliens with 'military the likes of which we've never had before'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-aliens-us-military-ufo-fox-news-b968340.html

If aliens wore boots, they would be shaking in them now, dont mess with Trump even if you can bend space/time.

 

[Giannis]

Casts serious doubts on Israel's space program; they're literally a laughing stock after this.

 

[Stewie]

The social media has turned a big chunk of the world population into living breathing supermarket tabloid magazines. So many garbage conspiracy theories coming out. Covid was man made. They will microchip us. They did for 5g. Bill gates is behind it. Israel knows about aliens. No such thing as global warming. What’s next?

And some people simply lap this stuff up.

 

[Romali_rotti]

According to the IDF space geninus, the Aliens want us to work with to solve the mysteries of the univerese. We cant even solve the borders between nations or famine, hunger, disease. I think once these Aliens get bored of drinking Earths vodka, they will realise we are worthless and do what you have suggested.

Or perhaps they are here only speaking to US and Israel as they want them gone for a better planet, now that would make sense.

Brathar,

There is a book called the Stranger in the Pentagon, could be fact, could be fiction, it is about an alien who was eventually named 'Valiant Thor' who landed on earth and went to American President Dwight Eisenhower and offered assistance to him to: Cure all diseases, give technology which would eliminate, poverty, hunger, along with other goodies to make Earth a peaceful place.

Eisenhower upon consulting with his advisors decided to not accept Valiant Thor's offer, reason being: If that kind of technology and knowledge were to be passed onto the world, then humans would no longer remain poor, hungry or ill, which in return would make leaders like him nil and void as they would have no power or control.

Interesting concept, most likely all fake but the evil within humans is something that is very relatable here. Like the saying: if you remove all ants from earth, the planet would cease to exit in a matter of 5 years, however if you take out humans from the eco system, Earth would prosper....

 

[Madplayer]

I remember a former Canadian Vice president had also made such claims.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Casts serious doubts on Israel's space program; they're literally a laughing stock after this.

Not really. The guy is 87 and he is hyping up a book. The space program will be a laughing stock if they made such a ludicrous statement themselves.

 

[Mamoon]

What if it’s true?

 

[Hyperion66]

I am more scared of Cthulhu than aliens TBH. What if Lovecraft Mythos turn out to be real?

 

[Gullycricket]

Year is 2020 and anything is possible. So won't rule it out although it looks like taken out of a movie script.

 

[KoyoAli]

What if it’s true?

Well, we can write a wholly fictional story based on "What if it's true". But many before me and you have done it already and in a much better manner than our capabilities so just a waste of effort I feel.

 

[Mamoon]

Well, we can write a wholly fictional story based on "What if it's true". But many before me and you have done it already and in a much better manner than our capabilities so just a waste of effort I feel.

Well, 300 years ago, if someone would have told us that a time will come where you will be able to see and talk to a person in Britain while you are sitting in Delhi or Lahore, we would have called it a good fiction story.

Life is full of surprises and the realms of fiction continues to be stretched. If there is a possibility of extraterrestrial life, then there is also a possibility that this life is intelligent.

I would agree with you this guy is making up stuff to sell his book, but I would also not take a hardline stance and rule out the possibility that there might be a hint of truth to what he said.

At the end of the day, when it comes to galactic matters, we have to believe in the first world countries because they are the ones who have and will discover the wonders of the universe. We just have to wait and see what they come up with and how far they can go.

If it was left to us, we would still believe that it is not possible for man to land on Moon or far man-made objects to land on Mars.

 

[Mamoon]

The human mind is always reluctant to accept new possibilities that are far and beyond its current capabilities. After all, Leonardo Da Vinci was subjected to great ridicule when he claimed, and tried to demonstrate, that man could fly one day.

Today, man can fly faster and higher than any avian.

The sun is projected to last for another 7-8 billion years, but it is also projected that earth may not be livable beyond perhaps 1 billion years.

In less than a billion years, the developed countries would have definitely found a way to populate other planets and/or to extend the livability of earth.

In a few billion years, the developed will also find the truth about ET life: exists or not, intelligent or not.

I would say that by the time the sun is about to die, mankind would be so advance that it would get dangerously close to Heaven and Hell.

If you are a Muslim or a Christian, you would believe in the physical existence of Heaven and Hell. Thus, it will be reasonable to assume that Heaven and Hell are probably planets in a galaxy far, far, far, far.....far away.

Once mankind is able to get very close to physically accessing that galaxy, the sun will explode and the Day of Judgement will arrive - mankind will go extinct.

If believe in Islam and Christianity, this should make sense. Think about it, Adam and Eve were created in Heaven and then thrown out of Heaven and into earth where they populated the world.

It will take billions of years of evolution for man to develop to the point where it could almost manage to travel back of Heaven. Once mankind reaches its final stage of evolution, life will come full circle and there will be nothing left for mankind to achieve.

This is when God decides that it is time for us to go extinct.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Well, 300 years ago, if someone would have told us that a time will come where you will be able to see and talk to a person in Britain while you are sitting in Delhi or Lahore, we would have called it a good fiction story.

Life is full of surprises and the realms of fiction continues to be stretched. If there is a possibility of extraterrestrial life, then there is also a possibility that this life is intelligent.

I would agree with you this guy is making up stuff to sell his book, but I would also not take a hardline stance and rule out the possibility that there might be a hint of truth to what he said.

At the end of the day, when it comes to galactic matters, we have to believe in the first world countries because they are the ones who have and will discover the wonders of the universe. We just have to wait and see what they come up with and how far they can go.

If it was left to us, we would still believe that it is not possible for man to land on Moon or far man-made objects to land on Mars.

Yes, yes. They chose Israel and the US as higher representatives of the human race to collaborate on space travel.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes, yes. They chose Israel and the US as higher representatives of the human race to collaborate on space travel.

Which nation is most likely to develop the technology and the means to contact intelligent ET life (if it exists in the first place)? The answer is a very easy and obvious one: the U.S.

And Israel’s R&D is basically tied to the U.S., so it won’t be surprising if they are the ones to tag along when the U.S. communicates (if they haven’t already) with intelligent life.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

He’s definitely trying to sell his book, but that doesn’t mean extraterrestrials don’t exist nor does it mean that they haven’t made contact.

If it is scientifically plausible to create the technology to quickly cross light years at a time (since it is unlikely any extraterrestrial is in any nearby solar system and would have to be galaxies away), and this civilization also has at least a few thousand extra years of evolution compared to us, then it is plausible.

The technology aspect would have to incorporate some kind of space-warping such as through Einstein-Rosen bridges, or do the very difficult task of travelling near the speed of light. But assuming this alien civilization reached where we are today, as humans, thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of years before us, it’s certainly more plausible than a rounding error.

I do believe that given the size of the universe (10,000 suns for every grain of sand on Earth) there must indeed probabilistically be extraterrestrials out there, varying from bacterial matter to evolved lifeforms (semi-intelligent, akin to animals on Earth, and possibly even intelligent). The real question is whether any of them are nearby, and if they are nearby, whether they have more advanced technology than us to travel through space quickly.

Metaphorically speaking, it’s entirely possible Earth’s Sun is a sand grain at the bottom of the Indian ocean, and our desired contact is with the advanced civilization living in the Bahamas.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Which nation is most likely to develop the technology and the means to contact intelligent ET life (if it exists in the first place)? The answer is a very easy and obvious one: the U.S.

And Israel’s R&D is basically tied to the U.S., so it won’t be surprising if they are the ones to tag along when the U.S. communicates (if they haven’t already) with intelligent life.

So you believe this story then I take it?

That aliens have collaborated with joint US and Israeli scientists on space travel programmes?

 

[Mamoon]

So you believe this story then I take it?

That aliens have collaborated with joint US and Israeli scientists on space travel programmes?

As I said earlier, I wouldn’t say I believe this story but I wouldn’t take a hardline approach either.

Some people are completely adverse to the idea of intelligent ET life and I don’t see why.

So I am sitting on the fence for now.

 

[Stewie]

As I said earlier, I wouldn’t say I believe this story but I wouldn’t take a hardline approach either.

Some people are completely adverse to the idea of intelligent ET life and I don’t see why.

So I am sitting on the fence for now.

You always have a very pragmatic take on things and usually opt to go for a more pessimistic angle so why in this case do you sound so convinced it’s true when most of the evidence is pointing in the other direction?

.. and no I am not referring to the possibility of intelligent space dating life existing out somewhere in the universe. I am talking about the elaborate designs where a supposedly highly intelligent and benevolent galactic federation, which obviously has nothing but the good of mankind at heart is choosing to talk only with the only nation on this planet that has used the nuclear bomb and is constantly engaging in wars on this planet and the other one being an apartheid nation. You would think they are intelligent enough to know what’s best for mankind?

I am a Trekkie. And the one major aspect of the federation was they had disavowed wars, politics and capitalism over the general welfare of mankind. There is no concept of money on Earth in that universe. And yet this federation is dealing with Americans and Jews, the biggest backers of capitalism, interest based financing.. !

See how the evidence is piling up?

Just saying...

 

[Mamoon]

You always have a very pragmatic take on things and usually opt to go for a more pessimistic angle so why in this case do you sound so convinced it’s true when most of the evidence is pointing in the other direction?

.. and no I am not referring to the possibility of intelligent space dating life existing out somewhere in the universe. I am talking about the elaborate designs where a supposedly highly intelligent and benevolent galactic federation, which obviously has nothing but the good of mankind at heart is choosing to talk only with the only nation on this planet that has used the nuclear bomb and is constantly engaging in wars on this planet and the other one being an apartheid nation. You would think they are intelligent enough to know what’s best for mankind?

I am a Trekkie. And the one major aspect of the federation was they had disavowed wars, politics and capitalism over the general welfare of mankind. There is no concept of money on Earth in that universe. And yet this federation is dealing with Americans and Jews, the biggest backers of capitalism, interest based financing.. !

See how the evidence is piling up?

Just saying...

That’s the part due to which I am sitting on the fence and reluctant to explicitly state that I believe him.

This improvised script of Star Trek is hard to believe and I admit that. If he simply said that there is intelligent life out there and we have established some kind of contact, I would have readily believed him.

 

[Stewie]

That’s the part due to which I am sitting on the fence and reluctant to explicitly state that I believe him.

This improvised script of Star Trek is hard to believe and I admit that. If he simply said that there is intelligent life out there and we have established some kind of contact, I would have readily believed him.

I think it’s flat out baloney. Straight out of silly science fiction tropes. Either the aliens are very smart and menacing or very smart and peaceful yet our own governments (who have proven time and again they are petty and quite frankly not so smart at times) can manage to keep this secret so effectively from us all.. probably the biggest secret in mankind’s history!

Very very very hard to believe! This is plain garbage.. sensationalism from an old senile man.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

You always have a very pragmatic take on things and usually opt to go for a more pessimistic angle so why in this case do you sound so convinced it’s true when most of the evidence is pointing in the other direction?

.. and no I am not referring to the possibility of intelligent space dating life existing out somewhere in the universe. I am talking about the elaborate designs where a supposedly highly intelligent and benevolent galactic federation, which obviously has nothing but the good of mankind at heart is choosing to talk only with the only nation on this planet that has used the nuclear bomb and is constantly engaging in wars on this planet and the other one being an apartheid nation. You would think they are intelligent enough to know what’s best for mankind?

I am a Trekkie. And the one major aspect of the federation was they had disavowed wars, politics and capitalism over the general welfare of mankind. There is no concept of money on Earth in that universe. And yet this federation is dealing with Americans and Jews, the biggest backers of capitalism, interest based financing.. !

See how the evidence is piling up?

Just saying...

Its Because of the religion of the person who made the statement. Had it been a Muslim who sprouted this nonsense he would have had a different opinion.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Well, 300 years ago, if someone would have told us that a time will come where you will be able to see and talk to a person in Britain while you are sitting in Delhi or Lahore, we would have called it a good fiction story.

Life is full of surprises and the realms of fiction continues to be stretched. If there is a possibility of extraterrestrial life, then there is also a possibility that this life is intelligent.

I would agree with you this guy is making up stuff to sell his book, but I would also not take a hardline stance and rule out the possibility that there might be a hint of truth to what he said.

At the end of the day, when it comes to galactic matters, we have to believe in the first world countries because they are the ones who have and will discover the wonders of the universe. We just have to wait and see what they come up with and how far they can go.

If it was left to us, we would still believe that it is not possible for man to land on Moon or far man-made objects to land on Mars.

There is no truth in what he is saying. Because if there is a galactic civilization and they have been anywhere near earth, especially with the intention of making contact we will know.

And why would a supper advanced race come to talk to Trump of all people and tell him to keep all this a secret? Why not go to people who will actually understand what they are trying to say. This is quite obviously nonsense and he is saying this to get publicity, nothing more.

The interesting point to discuss is whether there is intelligent life apart from earth, intelligent as in equivalent to us, there may well be life out there that looks at us as we do at dolphins or pigs. We would be unfathomably special for there to not be intelligent life in our galaxy let alone no microbial life. Life on Earth is made of the most abundant and reactive elements in the universe. If we restrict ourselves and say the only way life is possible is some variation of Earth life, even then the possibilities are endless. We aren't special. And life started on Earth as soon as it could and since then has bounced back from about half a dozen extinction level events. The Earth isn't special either, nor is water, nor are the macro conditions present on early Earth. So putting those two facts together, anyone who says there is no life out there is being extremely egotistical and has no logical or scientific basis for such a claim.

But aliens haven't made contact, and they haven't visited in a way anyone on Earth can know. Of that we can be certain. You cannot keep anything quite in today's world, NASA isn't the only one looking up and even if they knew first why would they keep such a huge discovery a secret?

Apart from NASA, ESA,the Chinese and the Japanese all have the capability to detect anything that goes on around Earth and even afar. Not to mention the research is being done by scientist working by around the globe with access to all the powerful telescopes. Even the amateur astronomy community, with the equipment they have, would be impossible to keep out of the loop.

Its human hubris to assume that alien life will have anything in common with us. That they will look, speak or even think like we do or will have the same motivations as us. So, we will need all hands on deck to even attempt to communicate anything with them, if we ever can. We cant even communicate with life on Earth properly which with we have DNA in common.

Bottom line, if aliens ever come to Earth, you will know. It will be single greatest moment in our history and we wont ever be the same again.

Which nation is most likely to develop the technology and the means to contact intelligent ET life (if it exists in the first place)? The answer is a very easy and obvious one: the U.S.

And Israel’s R&D is basically tied to the U.S., so it won’t be surprising if they are the ones to tag along when the U.S. communicates (if they haven’t already) with intelligent life.

Actually its China. If some alien civilization attempts first contact, they will be the first to know. They have the largest telescope (FAST) we have ever built and they are listening for such a signal.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Friends of Israel actually entertaining this

Israeli is a mere outpost of the west, it cannot defend itself without the west ,recives billions of aid and it's technological advacement is far from making it the worlds leader.

The ex IDF general is also Jewish, Aliens will ruin his religious belief they are Gods chosen people when with their arrival it could be small green little men God has chosen.

Anyone read the book? How do these aliens look? All like JLO or Netanyhoo on a hangover?

 

[Technics 1210]

LOL just like in the movies! Aliens only ever make contact with USA or Israel!

 

[KingKhanWC]

LOL just like in the movies! Aliens only ever make contact with USA or Israel!

Imagine Netanyahoos face when Aliens made contact.

Alien - Hi im here
Netanyahoo - The Messiah has arrived but why is he small and green.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

Existence of alien life would be revealed sooner or later I feel. Human beings are being prepared to handle some hard truths.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Existence of alien life would be revealed sooner or later I feel. Human beings are being prepared to handle some hard truths.

How are we being prepared and by whom?

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

How are we being prepared and by whom?

Prepared by the people of power. Just a conjecture of mine. But I feel the revelation of alien life would be sooner rather than later.

 

[Stewie]

Prepared by the people of power. Just a conjecture of mine. But I feel the revelation of alien life would be sooner rather than later.

Prepared how? By believing in other conspiracy theories? Haha

Watching more reality TV? Putting a fraud TV celebrity as the President of a Superpower? Then having him unceremoniously dumped through a “rigged” election?


Yes, life on earth lately has been sort of straight out of a bad scifi conspiracy thriller film.

Maybe these 5g towers they are putting up that are causing death all around us have something to do with the incoming aliens as well. Heck I think Imran Khan is an alien. Modi too.
And Boris definitely doesn’t try too hard to hide the fact he is one as well.

 

[gazza619]

There is head or tail of this intelligent alien argument. Can we please come back to reality.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Prepared by the people of power. Just a conjecture of mine. But I feel the revelation of alien life would be sooner rather than later.

Who are these people of power and why are humans in general being prepared?

Discovery of alien life can happen any time. It will most likely be simple life. No one intelligent is close by to us. But there is no reason to think that any information is being kept from us. Infact it is too big a news to keep under the wraps.

We will know as soon as it happens.

 

[Stewie]

Who are these people of power and why are humans in general being prepared?

Discovery of alien life can happen any time. It will most likely be simple life. No one intelligent is close by to us. But there is no reason to think that any information is being kept from us. Infact it is too big a news to keep under the wraps.

We will know as soon as it happens.

I won’t even speak to whether there is or isn’t intelligent life near us. We consider ourselves intelligent but we haven’t even discovered all the living species in our own planet. We haven’t even been able to narrow down why here there ever was life on other planets of our own solar system. Heck we can’t seem to agree on whether Pluto is a planet or not.

So what’s to say there isn’t another planet in a neighboring system, which may have a civilization on the same level as is. We just don’t know about each other. It’s almost impossible to be sure at the stage of development we are at the moment.

That being said, if a civilization is so advanced as to travel the stars, and they have gotten there by themselves without actually destroying their planet, I can only think they would be noble, peaceful and well meaning, and highly evolved. They would never have an ulterior motive or secret agenda and use subterfuge and only parlay with US and Israel. They would be smart enough to come in peace for all mankind.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Prepared how? By believing in other conspiracy theories? Haha

Watching more reality TV? Putting a fraud TV celebrity as the President of a Superpower? Then having him unceremoniously dumped through a “rigged” election?


Yes, life on earth lately has been sort of straight out of a bad scifi conspiracy thriller film.

Maybe these 5g towers they are putting up that are causing death all around us have something to do with the incoming aliens as well. Heck I think Imran Khan is an alien. Modi too.
And Boris definitely doesn’t try too hard to hide the fact he is one as well.

Who are these people of power and why are humans in general being prepared?

Discovery of alien life can happen any time. It will most likely be simple life. No one intelligent is close by to us. But there is no reason to think that any information is being kept from us. Infact it is too big a news to keep under the wraps.

We will know as soon as it happens.

In no expert on alien life/astronomy or the science of the universe.

If we cannot travel faster than the speed of light. How long would it take intelligent life forms to reach Earth from the outer parts of our Galaxy?

 

[Stewie]

In no expert on alien life/astronomy or the science of the universe.

If we cannot travel faster than the speed of light. How long would it take intelligent life forms to reach Earth from the outer parts of our Galaxy?

Thats the question, isn’t it? It’s an immense challenge. As far as I know, you can’t travel at speeds faster than light. From our current understanding of science, it’s impossible. Cant happen!

So from that POV, it’s almost impossible to imagine contact between intelligent life unless they are nomadic and have found a way to survive indefinitely as space travelers. And happen to fly by us to make contact.


It’s either that or in case the fictional wormhole concepts are actually true and they allow us to jump vast distances at sun light speeds.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Thats the question, isn’t it? It’s an immense challenge. As far as I know, you can’t travel at speeds faster than light. From our current understanding of science, it’s impossible. Cant happen!

So from that POV, it’s almost impossible to imagine contact between intelligent life unless they are nomadic and have found a way to survive indefinitely as space travelers. And happen to fly by us to make contact.


It’s either that or in case the fictional wormhole concepts are actually true and they allow us to jump vast distances at sun light speeds.

Also even if we were to say they can travel twice the speed of light, it would still mean these aliens(biological beings) can live hundreds or thousands of years in age?

If they are so advanced and special, it makes no sense to ask help from silly earthlings unless they want to holla me.

Have you heard of Bob Lazar? This bloke was also on the Joe Rogan Podcast, he says hes seen many different alien crafts. But doesnt seem like a nutter , more of a confused person.

 

[Arsal_AK]

In no expert on alien life/astronomy or the science of the universe.

If we cannot travel faster than the speed of light. How long would it take intelligent life forms to reach Earth from the outer parts of our Galaxy?

Without bringing relativity into account, here is how ridiculously long it will take us travel in a straight line across the milky way.

The milky way galaxy is about 100,000 light years across, that is it takes light 100,000 years to get from one corner to the other. Light travels at 300,000 km/s. To get a sense, that is 7 times around the Earth in one second.

Alpha Centauri is the nearest star system to us, 4.5 ly away. At the current best speed (20-30 km/s) it will take 80-100 thousand years to get there. For the milky-way, its 2 billion years (and again a straight line from one ed to another).

If you reach 10 percent the speed of light (we could in the near future with nukes/fusion), then Alpha Cen system should be about 90 years away. You can still see how this is ridiculously slow for the galaxy.

But luckily for us, as you move faster, time runs slower for you. That is a direct consequence of Einstein special theory of relativity. Say, if we can go to 80 percent of the speed of light, we get to Alpha Cen in 5.6 years but for the people on the ship it will only be 3.3 years. To get those speeds though we need technologies that are far, far out like antimatter drivers.

To get anywhere at sub light speeds you need far out technology and depending on where you want to go, you need to either have a ship that can support generations of people or you need to figure how to increase life spans to thousands of years. Anyone getting here is ridiculously advanced compared to us.

Thats the question, isn’t it? It’s an immense challenge. As far as I know, you can’t travel at speeds faster than light. From our current understanding of science, it’s impossible. Cant happen!

So from that POV, it’s almost impossible to imagine contact between intelligent life unless they are nomadic and have found a way to survive indefinitely as space travelers. And happen to fly by us to make contact.


It’s either that or in case the fictional wormhole concepts are actually true and they allow us to jump vast distances at sun light speeds.

There was a recent paper on human transversable wormholes which seems to suggest it might be possible. Warp drives from Star Trek could be possible as well. Its not technically outlawed by general relativity. NASA is actually working on detecting warp fields.

Also even if we were to say they can travel twice the speed of light, it would still mean these aliens(biological beings) can live hundreds or thousands of years in age?

If they are so advanced and special, it makes no sense to ask help from silly earthlings unless they want to holla me.

Have you heard of Bob Lazar? This bloke was also on the Joe Rogan Podcast, he says hes seen many different alien crafts. But doesnt seem like a nutter , more of a confused person.

Going at the twice the speed of light isn't possible. Its not a matter of technology, its more fundamental. The speed limit doesn't come from light, it comes from causality. The speed at which any information can travel through space has to be finite, if the universe has to make sense. From E =mc^2 you can make a crude argument as to why this must be the case. If c is infinite, we need infinite energy to have any matter in the universe. No finite speed, no mass in the universe. It is also impossible to cross that threshold speed once established, no matter what. It leads to similar paradoxes.

There are ways to cheat though but they all are theoretical and seem to rely on things we simply haven't found anywhere yet.

I agree that its wrong to assign human motivations to species who will have nothing in common with us. Them landing here asking for our help or them talking to Trump are ludicrous statements and have no basis in truth. They will be so far advanced from us, that even the best among us will have hard time keeping up with basics of what they know.

 

[srh]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7508152/aliens-galactic-federation-israel-trump/

Shame on the US and Israel for hiding this from the world! We all know Israelis are smartest people, no wonder the Aliens came all this way to meet them.

If you count angels and djinns as aliens then they were created even before humans and have existed on Earth since God knows when.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Without bringing relativity into account, here is how ridiculously long it will take us travel in a straight line across the milky way.

The milky way galaxy is about 100,000 light years across, that is it takes light 100,000 years to get from one corner to the other. Light travels at 300,000 km/s. To get a sense, that is 7 times around the Earth in one second.

Alpha Centauri is the nearest star system to us, 4.5 ly away. At the current best speed (20-30 km/s) it will take 80-100 thousand years to get there. For the milky-way, its 2 billion years (and again a straight line from one ed to another).

If you reach 10 percent the speed of light (we could in the near future with nukes/fusion), then Alpha Cen system should be about 90 years away. You can still see how this is ridiculously slow for the galaxy.

But luckily for us, as you move faster, time runs slower for you. That is a direct consequence of Einstein special theory of relativity. Say, if we can go to 80 percent of the speed of light, we get to Alpha Cen in 5.6 years but for the people on the ship it will only be 3.3 years. To get those speeds though we need technologies that are far, far out like antimatter drivers.

To get anywhere at sub light speeds you need far out technology and depending on where you want to go, you need to either have a ship that can support generations of people or you need to figure how to increase life spans to thousands of years. Anyone getting here is ridiculously advanced compared to us.



There was a recent paper on human transversable wormholes which seems to suggest it might be possible. Warp drives from Star Trek could be possible as well. Its not technically outlawed by general relativity. NASA is actually working on detecting warp fields.



Going at the twice the speed of light isn't possible. Its not a matter of technology, its more fundamental. The speed limit doesn't come from light, it comes from causality. The speed at which any information can travel through space has to be finite, if the universe has to make sense. From E =mc^2 you can make a crude argument as to why this must be the case. If c is infinite, we need infinite energy to have any matter in the universe. No finite speed, no mass in the universe. It is also impossible to cross that threshold speed once established, no matter what. It leads to similar paradoxes.

There are ways to cheat though but they all are theoretical and seem to rely on things we simply haven't found anywhere yet.

I agree that its wrong to assign human motivations to species who will have nothing in common with us. Them landing here asking for our help or them talking to Trump are ludicrous statements and have no basis in truth. They will be so far advanced from us, that even the best among us will have hard time keeping up with basics of what they know.

If you count angels and djinns as aliens then they were created even before humans and have existed on Earth since God knows when.

They are not aliens, as they also live on Earth too.
[MENTION=132855]Arsal_AK[/MENTION]'s Good info, thanks!

What are you views on Bob Lazar's story?

 

[JaDed]

Without bringing relativity into account, here is how ridiculously long it will take us travel in a straight line across the milky way.

The milky way galaxy is about 100,000 light years across, that is it takes light 100,000 years to get from one corner to the other. Light travels at 300,000 km/s. To get a sense, that is 7 times around the Earth in one second.

Alpha Centauri is the nearest star system to us, 4.5 ly away. At the current best speed (20-30 km/s) it will take 80-100 thousand years to get there. For the milky-way, its 2 billion years (and again a straight line from one ed to another).

If you reach 10 percent the speed of light (we could in the near future with nukes/fusion), then Alpha Cen system should be about 90 years away. You can still see how this is ridiculously slow for the galaxy.

But luckily for us, as you move faster, time runs slower for you. That is a direct consequence of Einstein special theory of relativity. Say, if we can go to 80 percent of the speed of light, we get to Alpha Cen in 5.6 years but for the people on the ship it will only be 3.3 years. To get those speeds though we need technologies that are far, far out like antimatter drivers.

To get anywhere at sub light speeds you need far out technology and depending on where you want to go, you need to either have a ship that can support generations of people or you need to figure how to increase life spans to thousands of years. Anyone getting here is ridiculously advanced compared to us.



There was a recent paper on human transversable wormholes which seems to suggest it might be possible. Warp drives from Star Trek could be possible as well. Its not technically outlawed by general relativity. NASA is actually working on detecting warp fields.



Going at the twice the speed of light isn't possible. Its not a matter of technology, its more fundamental. The speed limit doesn't come from light, it comes from causality. The speed at which any information can travel through space has to be finite, if the universe has to make sense. From E =mc^2 you can make a crude argument as to why this must be the case. If c is infinite, we need infinite energy to have any matter in the universe. No finite speed, no mass in the universe. It is also impossible to cross that threshold speed once established, no matter what. It leads to similar paradoxes.

There are ways to cheat though but they all are theoretical and seem to rely on things we simply haven't found anywhere yet.

I agree that its wrong to assign human motivations to species who will have nothing in common with us. Them landing here asking for our help or them talking to Trump are ludicrous statements and have no basis in truth. They will be so far advanced from us, that even the best among us will have hard time keeping up with basics of what they know.

Top post and conclusion.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

They are not aliens, as they also live on Earth too.
[MENTION=132855]Arsal_AK[/MENTION]'s Good info, thanks!

What are you views on Bob Lazar's story?

I looked into Bob Lazar, lots of circumstantial details in his story, he’s also done things like link his story to previous stories (literally lifting the story about Zeta Reticuli from a completely different story), and later he took credit for “discovering” Moscovium when pretty much anyone including myself can write a science fiction story about hypothesized elements. He just picked up 115, one of the next in the series of undiscovered elements at the time of his story, and ran with it.

There are also certain details in his story which didn’t add up - watch his interview with Joe Rogan. At one point, I believe he says the UFOs were too small for any human to fit in, but at a later stage also mentions going inside himself.

If you look into his background, he claims to have been educated at MIT and Caltech but there is no record as such. He also claimed to have worked at the Los Alamos Physics Facility but in reality it was a bicycle shop or something like that, just drawing from memory.

More than Bob Lazar’s fishy story, Roswell, New Mexico is the biggest story I have personally seen that smells of a cover up. That’s where I would start as a conspiracy theorist - CIA took decades to tell us it was a “weather balloon”. Donald Trump also did an interview where instead of repeating the above line, he said Roswell is “very interesting”. I don’t typically classify Trump as my favorite source of reliable news, but his body language in that interview was very interesting, you should look it up.

The only other cover up that I am convinced of is JFK’s assassination - the CIA withheld certain information from the investigative court set up, with a lot of hazy details on why Oswald was murdered by a mobster soon after the assassination.

In terms of cover ups that the CIA has not been successful with, there’s all of Project MKUltra and its off shoots - that includes a program at Harvard that led to the creation of the Unabomber.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I looked into Bob Lazar, lots of circumstantial details in his story, he’s also done things like link his story to previous stories (literally lifting the story about Zeta Reticuli from a completely different story), and later he took credit for “discovering” Moscovium when pretty much anyone including myself can write a science fiction story about hypothesized elements. He just picked up 115, one of the next in the series of undiscovered elements at the time of his story, and ran with it.

There are also certain details in his story which didn’t add up - watch his interview with Joe Rogan. At one point, I believe he says the UFOs were too small for any human to fit in, but at a later stage also mentions going inside himself.

If you look into his background, he claims to have been educated at MIT and Caltech but there is no record as such. He also claimed to have worked at the Los Alamos Physics Facility but in reality it was a bicycle shop or something like that, just drawing from memory.

More than Bob Lazar’s fishy story, Roswell, New Mexico is the biggest story I have personally seen that smells of a cover up. That’s where I would start as a conspiracy theorist - CIA took decades to tell us it was a “weather balloon”. Donald Trump also did an interview where instead of repeating the above line, he said Roswell is “very interesting”. I don’t typically classify Trump as my favorite source of reliable news, but his body language in that interview was very interesting, you should look it up.

The only other cover up that I am convinced of is JFK’s assassination - the CIA withheld certain information from the investigative court set up, with a lot of hazy details on why Oswald was murdered by a mobster soon after the assassination.

In terms of cover ups that the CIA has not been successful with, there’s all of Project MKUltra and its off shoots - that includes a program at Harvard that led to the creation of the Unabomber.

Makes sense, I think Lazar was working in a secret weapons facility esp fighter crafts. He then decided to add a bit of spice to his experences.

Lazar mentions a craft which rises from a still position and then speeds(flys) off, we now have the F35 with such ability. I think a lot of these alien stories are planted by the CIA to help keep new military tech hush.

 

[sweep_shot]

Disclaimer: I want to make it clear I don't believe in these. I am simply sharing what I have found from the internet sources (videos, websites, interviews, paragraphs from books etc.).

========================================================

Here are some things I have learned from various sources:

1) There are alien beings (at least 4 different species including the infamous Grey aliens) that have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.

2) Most alien visitors are benign and don't mean us harm. They are simply curious and want to study us. There are a few species though that are harmful.

3) Some of the technologies that modern humans use came from alien technologies. Things like LED light, bulletproof vest, and microchip.

3) USA is currently in possession of some alien spacecrafts.

4) 1947 Rosswell UFO incident was covered up by the government. At least 1 dead alien body was discovered and 1 alive alien was captured. There were experiments done on that 1 alive alien. The alien eventually contacted his home planet. The planet is apparently called ZR3 from Zeta Reticuli star system (about 39 light years away). The alien died on Earth and his body was handed over to his species. After that, there was an exchange program between US government and that particular alien species (called Ebens or Greys). 12 representatives from USA actually went to that planet and did studies. 2 died, 8 of them returned, and 2 decided to stay there.

5) These aliens use antigravity technology to operate their spacecrafts. They can travel vast distance within seconds. They often communicate using holograms or telepathy.

6) They don't just visit USA and Israel. They also visit other countries. For example, there was a UFO incident in Iran back in 1976: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident. They often visit military sites of various countries (including nuclear testing sites).

7) They are concerned about the possibility of nuclear wars. They are concerned humans may bring their warfare to space and invade their planets.

8) they have contacted different civilians at different times in many countries. They have often abducted humans (for example, Barney and Betty Hill abduction story) and were responsible for cattle mutilations.

===========================

Again, I don't believe in these and I have no way of verifying these.

 

[James]

Always been interested in the intelligent life elsewhere stuff.

The size of the universe is truly mind boggling.

 

[sweep_shot]

Always been interested in the intelligent life elsewhere stuff.

The size of the universe is truly mind boggling.

Yeah. It fascinates me also.

It is quite possible there are living beings on other planets. God has created many different species and it is not impossible for Him to create these beings.

 

[silentkiller187]

Aliens defo exist, but maybe not in the ET sense, but I am sure there are micro organisms in other planets like bacteria etc that are living , these are aliens also

 

[gazza619]

How come with all the trillion mobile phone cameras in the modern world, not one has caught an alien or an alien space ship?

Sometimes its good to use a bit of common sense.

 

[Sirris]

How come with all the trillion mobile phone cameras in the modern world, not one has caught an alien or an alien space ship?

Sometimes its good to use a bit of common sense.

Maybe, because they have superior technology?

If they are able to reach us, they must have superior technology. Otherwise, we would be the one visiting them.

 

[gazza619]

Maybe, because they have superior technology?

If they are able to reach us, they must have superior technology. Otherwise, we would be the one visiting them.

Superior technology of what though?

Why have they not landed on planet earth?

 

[Robert]

Maybe, because they have superior technology?

If they are able to reach us, they must have superior technology. Otherwise, we would be the one visiting them.

If their tech is that superior it shouldn’t matter to them if we can see them or not. We couldn’t hurt them, even if we could detect them.

 

[James]

It may well be that this alien invasion/arrival has already happened, or is already effectively determined to happen, in the sense that in order to travel across such vast distances in the universe then it’s very likely our friends would have the technology and/or capability to manipulate time (as we understand it) as well as traverse space.

 

[Technics 1210]

It may well be that this alien invasion/arrival has already happened, or is already effectively determined to happen, in the sense that in order to travel across such vast distances in the universe then it’s very likely our friends would have the technology and/or capability to manipulate time (as we understand it) as well as traverse space.

Yup, Aliens built the pyramids.

 

[Giannis]

It's all drama, they're just doing this to
1) Discredit God and make people believe that aliens are responsible for the worlds creations
2) Distract people and weaken their faith
3) The countries that have been "contacted" by the aliens will be the ones that hold the power.
4) Expect some f@lse fl@g type thing like the pandemic and WOT and fear mongering that will lead to draconian laws restricting our civil liberties even more.

 

[Third_Umpire]

This man has lost all his marbles. Probably paying with trauma for all the Palestinian lives he took during his time with the IDF.

There is no evidence of a galactic federation. This is not a thing that only idiots like this person would know of, were they to exist.

 

[Robert]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7508152/aliens-galactic-federation-israel-trump/

Shame on the US and Israel for hiding this from the world! We all know Israelis are smartest people, no wonder the Aliens came all this way to meet them.

Perhaps the aliens are Zionists.

 

[James]

Yup, Aliens built the pyramids.

Have you seen the film “Tenet”? — mind blown — this introduces the idea of backwards entropy achieved by inverting particles physically.

If there were an intelligent life form which had contributed to human civilisation, this could have either been in the past (as we understand it) or indeed the as yet unknown future, from which objects such as the pyramids could have been placed and be moving backwards.

I love the 4th/5th dimensional stuff.

 

[Robert]

Yup, Aliens built the pyramids.

I think they are the only remnants of a lost civilisation. While my ancestors put up Stonehenge, North Africans did that. Which begs the question how that advanced civilisation was lost. Perhaps a novel disease wiped them out?

 

[James]

I think they are the only remnants of a lost civilisation. While my ancestors put up Stonehenge, North Africans did that. Which begs the question how that advanced civilisation was lost. Perhaps a novel disease wiped them out?

As well as “Tenet”. I recommend the film “Stargate” to you both if you haven’t seen it

 

[Robert]

As well as “Tenet”. I recommend the film “Stargate” to you both if you haven’t seen it

Saw Stargate twenty years back. Might have a look at Tenet.

 

[sweep_shot]

It's all drama, they're just doing this to
1) Discredit God and make people believe that aliens are responsible for the worlds creations
2) Distract people and weaken their faith
3) The countries that have been "contacted" by the aliens will be the ones that hold the power.
4) Expect some f@lse fl@g type thing like the pandemic and WOT and fear mongering that will lead to draconian laws restricting our civil liberties even more.

I actually think this may well be the case.

Even if these beings are real, there is a chance that they are just demons/Jinns.

God knows best.

 

[Technics 1210]

Have you seen the film “Tenet”? — mind blown — this introduces the idea of backwards entropy achieved by inverting particles physically.

If there were an intelligent life form which had contributed to human civilisation, this could have either been in the past (as we understand it) or indeed the as yet unknown future, from which objects such as the pyramids could have been placed and be moving backwards.

I love the 4th/5th dimensional stuff.

Been meaning to watch it. Will add on xmas list!

Interstellar was my favourite!

 

[ARK Rafay]

Aliens exist and it is more likely than not that they have been on earth in the past across humanity's lifespan.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Perhaps the aliens are Zionists.

Any aliens who can travel to Earth would be far too intelligent and advanced to be Zionists. Its fair to say they wouldn't also entertain the idea of giving away land to a 3rd party based on a book riddled with errors.

On topic.

Imo its another scare tactic by the US , now funding looking for alien crafts when their nation is going down the gutter.

 

[Robert]

Any aliens who can travel to Earth would be far too intelligent and advanced to be Zionists. Its fair to say they wouldn't also entertain the idea of giving away land to a 3rd party based on a book riddled with errors.

On topic.

Imo its another scare tactic by the US , now funding looking for alien crafts when their nation is going down the gutter.

I wouldn’t conflate brains with some notion of ethics / morality.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I wouldn’t conflate brains with some notion of ethics / morality.

Intelligence is linked to morality. ITs usually the dumb who believe war is good or killing is good, as witnessed by the support of the Nato criminal wars.

 

[Robert]

Intelligence is linked to morality. ITs usually the dumb who believe war is good or killing is good, as witnessed by the support of the Nato criminal wars.

I see no evidence of that. The wars are started by super bright educated people. al-Assad is a doctor. So was Harold Shipman, and Mengele.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I see no evidence of that. The wars are started by super bright educated people. al-Assad is a doctor. So was Harold Shipman, and Mengele.

Asad didn't start any war lol.

Stupid idiots like Bush, Blair, Cameron started immoral wars but its ok, its not your grandchildren being born with birth defects because of chemical weapons. IF it was yours , you'd be signing a different tune.

Aliens who can travel vast distances defeating the speed of light would be far advanced than your western leaders. They will be able to realise the truth, even if you never will.

 

[Varun]

Aliens who can travel vast distances defeating the speed of light would be far advanced than your western leaders. They will be able to realise the truth, even if you never will.

Let's officially conclude that you have given up on the Palestinian cause. Please unfurl your flag and surrender it at the door please. Back to your kebab grill you go.

 

[Arsal_AK]

Disclaimer: I want to make it clear I don't believe in these. I am simply sharing what I have found from the internet sources (videos, websites, interviews, paragraphs from books etc.).

========================================================

Here are some things I have learned from various sources:

1) There are alien beings (at least 4 different species including the infamous Grey aliens) that have been visiting Earth for thousands of years.

2) Most alien visitors are benign and don't mean us harm. They are simply curious and want to study us. There are a few species though that are harmful.

3) Some of the technologies that modern humans use came from alien technologies. Things like LED light, bulletproof vest, and microchip.

3) USA is currently in possession of some alien spacecrafts.

4) 1947 Rosswell UFO incident was covered up by the government. At least 1 dead alien body was discovered and 1 alive alien was captured. There were experiments done on that 1 alive alien. The alien eventually contacted his home planet. The planet is apparently called ZR3 from Zeta Reticuli star system (about 39 light years away). The alien died on Earth and his body was handed over to his species. After that, there was an exchange program between US government and that particular alien species (called Ebens or Greys). 12 representatives from USA actually went to that planet and did studies. 2 died, 8 of them returned, and 2 decided to stay there.

5) These aliens use antigravity technology to operate their spacecrafts. They can travel vast distance within seconds. They often communicate using holograms or telepathy.

6) They don't just visit USA and Israel. They also visit other countries. For example, there was a UFO incident in Iran back in 1976: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Tehran_UFO_incident. They often visit military sites of various countries (including nuclear testing sites).

7) They are concerned about the possibility of nuclear wars. They are concerned humans may bring their warfare to space and invade their planets.

8) they have contacted different civilians at different times in many countries. They have often abducted humans (for example, Barney and Betty Hill abduction story) and were responsible for cattle mutilations.

===========================

Again, I don't believe in these and I have no way of verifying these.

These claims mostly come from old scifi books and movies. Classic scifi tropes like flying saucers, aliens stranded on earth or conspiracy theories like guy in the OP (again based on old scifi works). All of them are wrong.

We will know if any aliens come calling. The US is powerless when it comes to keeping such information in. For starters they and NASA aren't the only ones looking at space. China has the biggest radio telescope in the world, so if any signal comes they will know about it first, Europe has the biggest land based telescope, Japan too has ground based observatories. All of them along with Russia have missions in space as well. Then there are independent scientists who are doing space science too and are actively looking for such things (much more so than government agencies). They have access to the best equipment both on ground and in space. Not to mention the amateur astronomers community, they will also be able to see anyone coming to Earth. It will be the biggest moment in our history by far and nobody is keeping it quite, they can't, especially not scientists.

Now, any aliens that do end up traveling to the earth won't be worried about our primitive atom bombs. Their technology would be so far advanced that it will be like magic to us, kind of like showing someone from Maxwell's time an iphone. See my previous post on how ridiculously long the the distance and time scales are. The best we can hope for, in a first contact scenario, is that they are not hostile. Because if they are, we will be powerless to stop them for doing whatever they want.

They didn't gift us any technology either, because we would have discovered things like diodes and micro technology at the same time as we actually did, even if the aliens had kept to to themselves. This theory would have made sense, if they had given us a quantum computer in the 1920's when we barely knew quantum mechanics.

Now coming to their technology and communication, there are somethings are just not possible.
Information cannot travel faster than light, so no matter what drives they have they can't outrun light. If they are from a planet 39 light years away, their message back home will take 39 years to reach, 78 to hear a reply from the home planet. That's a long wait for the alien who supposedly contacted his home planet.

Antigravity drives are not real. There is no gravity in space anyway, so what are they going to need antigravity for?

Telepathy and holograms are the only two things that are possible but only if they are subluminal or at best at light speed. These two technologies are most probably in our future as well. Telepathy in the sense that we may be able to communicate without speaking. The aliens, however are not communicating back and forth to their home planet by these methods.

 

[Robert]

Asad didn't start any war lol.

Stupid idiots like Bush, Blair, Cameron started immoral wars but its ok, its not your grandchildren being born with birth defects because of chemical weapons. IF it was yours , you'd be signing a different tune.

Aliens who can travel vast distances defeating the speed of light would be far advanced than your western leaders. They will be able to realise the truth, even if you never will.

Please try to stick to the point, which is that morality and intelligence are not linked.

al-Assad killed 100Ks of his own civilians when they rebelled against him. He is a doctor so obviously very intelligent. But not very moral, preferring to stay in power no matter how many of his peoples’ lives are lost. All the wars and exterminations down history have been caused by intelligent men who wanted more power.

(You can’t travel FTL. As you speed up your mass increases. As you accelerate toward the speed of light your mass increases to infinity, so you would need an infinitely powerful engine to move. It can’t be done. Maybe wormholes in spacetime exist, though.)

 

[PakLFC]

Modi told us ages back that aliens and ninja's were alive in ancient India. Plastic surgery and even time travel has been around since ages