Ambati Rayudu takes back his retirement [Update Post #444]

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Tony Greig was mentioning so during todays final match between Badhshahs and Heroes.He is one of the cleanest strikers of the ball we have witnessed during ICL.

Rayudu was touted as the 'next Sachin' not long back.However he could not live up that tag and faded off.

He is one of the batting stars of ICL along with R Satish,Zulu,Razzler,Farhat,Harvey etc.

What do you guys think?Could he have made it to the Indian ODI team?
 
Yes, he is a clean striker of the ball. After clashes with Shivlal Yadav's (HCA president) son Arjun Yadav, he lost his stability. I still remember watching his 177* against England U19 team on TV. That was a gem. He was also the captain of U19 team in 2004. Really I don't know why he chose this rebel league. He is still very young.
 
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He certainly looks impressive and his clean hitting reminds me of a young Razzaq. But I don't know whether he'd be better than Yuvraj, Uthappa or Sharma.

He's well worth trying out for a home series to see what he can do.
 
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He certainly looks impressive and his clean hitting reminds me of a young Razzaq. But I don't know whether he'd be better than Yuvraj, Uthappa or Sharma.

He's well worth trying out for a home series to see what he can do.

Uthappa is no match for this guy TBH
 
I remember watching one of his matches 2 or 3 years ago I think, playing along with Shikhar Dhawan. I knew Dhawan was a good hitter of the ball and was steaming ahead on about 80 of 70 odd balls. Rayudu was left behind on about 30 but he was showing grace that reminded me of Dravid. Wasn't scoring fast but I knew he was a good talent.

I think both of these should have got into the team a while ago.
 
Definitely should be a member of the national team. This guy's not as elegant as other players but is an honest trier. Absorbs pressure and performs well time and again.
 
Definitely should be a member of the national team. This guy's not as elegant as other players but is an honest trier. Absorbs pressure and performs well time and again.
not really with rohit , virat , tiwary , rahane , pujara all are better than him with more consistent fc records...he is well behind the line
 
He is born in the wrong country where there is already so much batting talent . Would have been Greatest Ever Pakistani Batsman had he played for Pakistan .
 
He is born in the wrong country where there is already so much batting talent . Would have been Greatest Ever Pakistani Batsman had he played for Pakistan .

lol! do you act stupid or are you really that stupid?

Kapil dev would have been an average domestic player with 2-3 internation appearances if he was born in Pakistan
 
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He is low down the pecking order but easily better than S.Dhawan and M.Tiwary
 
lol! do you act stupid or are you really that stupid?

Kapil dev would have been an average domestic player with 203 internation appearances if he was born in Pakistan

LOL and he is supposedly their greatest ever.
 
LOL and he is supposedly their greatest ever.

Dude we get it ok. Pakistan is the best team ever in the whole galaxy ok. You don't have to prove it by derailing all threads which has India in the title ok.
 
lol! do you act stupid or are you really that stupid?

Kapil dev would have been an average domestic player with 2-3 internation appearances if he was born in Pakistan

LOL who was better than kapil in that period in pakistan except imran.

kapil was better than sarfraz as a bowler. let's not even consider his batting skills.

if kapil would have played for pakistan he would have ousted sarfraz in the late 70s and kapil-imran would have partnered for most of the 80s then would retired by early 80s-late 90s due to two w's.
 
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Hes in the same league as Sharma or Virat , but only has himself blame ..his domestic performances weren't too impressive when he has a shot at national team ..way too inconsistent , getting out in 40s and 50s .
 
LOL who was better than kapil in that period in pakistan except imran.

kapil was better than sarfraz as a bowler. let's not even consider his batting skills.

if kapil would have played for pakistan he would have ousted sarfraz in the late 70s and kapil-imran would have partnered for most of the 80s then would retired by early 80s-late 90s due to two w's.

If he was Pakistani, his career would have been over in 1985-86 when Wasim Akram burst onto the scene. He wasn't within a million miles of Imran as an all rounder and was not even fit to wipe Wasim's boots as a bowler so he would have lost at least 8-9 years of his career(he played for another 9 years after 1985) if he played for Pakistan.
 
If he was Pakistani, his career would have been over in 1985-86 when Wasim Akram burst onto the scene. He wasn't within a million miles of Imran as an all rounder and was not even fit to wipe Wasim's boots as a bowler so he would have lost at least 8-9 years of his career(he played for another 9 years after 1985) if he played for Pakistan.

Wasim only become the Wasim we know in the early 90s. His bowling avg in the 80s was 28.18.

Kapil in that time period had a bowling avg of 29.93 and batting avg of 32.6.

So Wasim was slightly better as a bowler and vastly inferior as a batsman in that time period. So no Kapil's career would not have been over in 1985-86. It would have been over in the early 90s when Wasim took off and Waqar came into the scene.
 
Wasim only become the Wasim we know in the early 90s. His bowling avg in the 80s was 28.18.

Kapil in that time period had a bowling avg of 29.93 and batting avg of 32.6.

So Wasim was slightly better as a bowler and vastly inferior as a batsman in that time period. So no Kapil's career would not have been over in 1985-86. It would have been over in the early 90s when Wasim took off and Waqar came into the scene.

Between Wasim's debut(01/25/84) and Kapil Dev's last day in test cricket(03/23/94), Wasim took 222 wickets in 53 tests(4.2 wickets per test) at 23.43 with a strike rate of 54. During the same period, Kapil Dev took 187 wickets in 69 tests(a Kallis-esque 2.7 wickets per test) at 32.20 with a strike rate of 77. With those bowling figures, he could have average 200 with the bat and he still wouldn't make it into the Pakistani side as a bowler.

EDIT: And if we take your totally arbitrary criteria of not using stats from the 90s since that's when Wasim really took off, Kapil Dev's stats still make him look like an ass. From the day Wasim made his debut to December 31 1989, Kapil Dev took 112 wickets from 41 tests at an average of 32.18(32.18 =/= 29.93 ... At least don't make stats up) with a strike rate of 74.2(seriously beastly strike rate this guy has regardless of the time period. No wonder he ended up with a career strike rate of 64, a good 12 balls clear of his contemporaries). Wasim took 94 from 29 games at 28.18 with a strike rate of 65. A difference of 4 in bowling averages is not 'slightly better', it's enough to put one in a different league(Waqar averages 23, Shoaib 25, the difference is half as much and yet Waqar's legendary status can never be touched by Shoaib). Waqar made his debut in 1989 and he took the equation to a whole new level. I'm not going to disrespect Waqar by naming 'that second rate trundler who had to bowl as many overs as a mediocre spinner to get a wicket' in the same sentence as Waqar..
 
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Between Wasim's debut(01/25/84) and Kapil Dev's last day in test cricket(03/23/94), Wasim took 222 wickets in 53 tests(4.2 wickets per test) at 23.43 with a strike rate of 54. During the same period, Kapil Dev took 187 wickets in 69 tests(a Kallis-esque 2.7 wickets per test) at 32.20 with a strike rate of 77. With those bowling figures, he could have average 200 with the bat and he still wouldn't make it into the Pakistani side as a bowler.

EDIT: And if we take your totally arbitrary criteria of not using stats from the 90s since that's when Wasim really took off, Kapil Dev's stats still make him look like an ass. From the day Wasim made his debut to December 31 1989, Kapil Dev took 112 wickets from 41 tests at an average of 32.18(32.18 =/= 29.93 ... At least don't make stats up) with a strike rate of 74.2(seriously beastly strike rate this guy has regardless of the time period. No wonder he ended up with a career strike rate of 64, a good 12 balls clear of his contemporaries). Wasim took 94 from 29 games at 28.18 with a strike rate of 65. A difference of 4 in bowling averages is not 'slightly better', it's enough to put one in a different league(Waqar averages 23, Shoaib 25, the difference is half as much and yet Waqar's legendary status can never be touched by Shoaib). Waqar made his debut in 1989 and he took the equation to a whole new level. I'm not going to disrespect Waqar by naming 'that second rate trundler who had to bowl as many overs as a mediocre spinner to get a wicket' in the same sentence as Waqar..

ty for putting this troll in his place

statistical ownage right here
 
Between Wasim's debut(01/25/84) and Kapil Dev's last day in test cricket(03/23/94), Wasim took 222 wickets in 53 tests(4.2 wickets per test) at 23.43 with a strike rate of 54. During the same period, Kapil Dev took 187 wickets in 69 tests(a Kallis-esque 2.7 wickets per test) at 32.20 with a strike rate of 77. With those bowling figures, he could have average 200 with the bat and he still wouldn't make it into the Pakistani side as a bowler.

EDIT: And if we take your totally arbitrary criteria of not using stats from the 90s since that's when Wasim really took off, Kapil Dev's stats still make him look like an ass. From the day Wasim made his debut to December 31 1989, Kapil Dev took 112 wickets from 41 tests at an average of 32.18(32.18 =/= 29.93 ... At least don't make stats up) with a strike rate of 74.2(seriously beastly strike rate this guy has regardless of the time period. No wonder he ended up with a career strike rate of 64, a good 12 balls clear of his contemporaries). Wasim took 94 from 29 games at 28.18 with a strike rate of 65. A difference of 4 in bowling averages is not 'slightly better', it's enough to put one in a different league(Waqar averages 23, Shoaib 25, the difference is half as much and yet Waqar's legendary status can never be touched by Shoaib). Waqar made his debut in 1989 and he took the equation to a whole new level. I'm not going to disrespect Waqar by naming 'that mediocre trundler who had to bowl as many overs as a mediocre spinner to get a wicket' in the same sentence as Waqar..

Lies.
Wasim made debut at 25 Jan 1985 not 1984.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43547.html
In that same period Kapil had an average of 29.93 along with his batting.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

So what I say holds.

Heck even after Wasim and Waqar's arrival he would have been in the team as an allrounder till 94 because of his 30+ batting average in that period. As a bowler he's decent but as a an allrounder he's one of the best.

If Miandad could stick around till 96 with his batting avg of 34.27 in the 90s so could Kapil as an allrounder with his batting and bowling averages in that period.

Also that mediocre trundler who happens to be one of the world's best allrounders has won a world cup unlike poor Waqar who apart from his stats doesn't really have anything to his name(Like a certain Vinod Kambli). ;-)
 
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Lies.
Wasim made debut at 25 Jan 1985 not 1984.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43547.html
In that same period Kapil had an average of 29.93 along with his batting.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

So what I say holds.

Heck even after Wasim and Waqar's arrival he would have been in the team as an allrounder till 94 because of his 30+ batting average in that period. As a bowler he's decent but as a an allrounder he's one of the best.

If Miandad could stick around till 96 with his batting avg of 34.27 in the 90s so could Kapil as an allrounder with his batting and bowling averages in that period.

Also that mediocre trundler who happens to be one of the world's best allrounders has won a world cup unlike poor Waqar who apart from his stats doesn't really have anything to his name(Like a certain Vinod Kambli). ;-)

totally...stats are so overrated.
I mean who cares about a bowler's wickets, average and strike rate. :zoni

keep posting brah. :sohail
 
Lies.
Wasim made debut at 25 Jan 1985 not 1984.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/player/43547.html
In that same period Kapil had an average of 29.93 along with his batting.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...;spanval1=span;template=results;type=allround

So what I say holds.

Also that mediocre trundler who happens to be one of the world's best allrounders has won a world cup unlike poor Waqar who apart from his stats doesn't really have anything to his name(Like a certain Vinod Kambli). ;-)

There were four genuine all rounders in the world at the time, he was fourth best amongst them. Using the world cup card to belittle the achievements of arguably the most destructive bowler in the history of the game, unquestionably one of the three most destructive, is just pathetic and quite frankly, a little desperate.

Here you have a man with 373 test wickets at 23 (4.3 wickets per match, best strike rate in the history of test cricket for bowlers with 300 or more wickets) and you're comparing him to some sad trundler who barely managed to keep his average below 30 in an era where even New Zealand, those perennial losers, had a bowler averaging in the low 20s(as did every other team minus India), a trundler who had to play 50 more tests than the record holder to break his record (434 in 131 vs 431 in 86) and the only non spinner in the history of the game to take more than 300 wickets with a strike rate of more than 60(a classic case of 'The India Syndrome' where quantity > quality. Just score as many runs/get as many wickets no matter how long it takes. Don't worry about averages)?

How many people have 370 test and 400 ODI wickets at 23? Compare that to the number of people who have won the world cup? Without going into detailed calculations, there's around 20 people who have won a world cup for every fast bowler who has 370 test wickets and/or 400 ODI wickets at 23. No points for guessing which achievement takes more skill and will be remembered 50 years on(outside of India off course, I mean this is a country where some wham bam thank you ma'am T20 league can wipe away the humiliation of 2 successive 4-0 white washes, in a matter of weeks). Cricket isn't played world cup to world cup. Cricket was around for a hundred years before there was a world cup and some of the finest cricketers, men like Bradman and Barnes(men so far above the trundler's league he needs a telescope to see them) never so much as played a single WC game, let alone win one, puts the value of world cups into perspective.
 
There were four genuine all rounders in the world at the time, he was fourth best amongst them. Using the world cup card to belittle the achievements of arguably the most destructive bowler in the history of the game, unquestionably one of the three most destructive, is just pathetic and quite frankly, a little desperate.

Here you have a man with 373 test wickets at 23 (4.3 wickets per match, best strike rate in the history of test cricket for bowlers with 300 or more wickets) and you're comparing him to some sad trundler who barely managed to keep his average below 30 in an era where even New Zealand, those perennial losers, had a bowler averaging in the low 20s(as did every other team minus India), a trundler who had to play 50 more tests than the record holder to break his record (434 in 131 vs 431 in 86) and the only non spinner in the history of the game to take more than 300 wickets with a strike rate of more than 60(a classic case of 'The India Syndrome' where quantity > quality. Just score as many runs/get as many wickets no matter how long it takes. Don't worry about averages)?

How many people have 370 test and 400 ODI wickets at 23? Compare that to the number of people who have won the world cup? Without going into detailed calculations, there's around 20 people who have won a world cup for every fast bowler who has 370 test wickets and/or 400 ODI wickets at 23. No points for guessing which achievement takes more skill and will be remembered 50 years on(outside of India off course, I mean this is a country where some wham bam thank you ma'am T20 league can wipe away the humiliation of 2 successive 4-0 white washes, in a matter of weeks). Cricket isn't played world cup to world cup. Cricket was around for a hundred years before there was a world cup and some of the finest cricketers, men like Bradman and Barnes(men so far above the trundler's league he needs a telescope to see them) never so much as played a single WC game, let alone win one, puts the value of world cups into perspective.

The last part where I said Waqar didn't win a WC was trolling just like you trolled about Kapil. Kapil was an allrounder not a bowler so cannot hold a candle to Waqar if you consider only bowling. You selectively ignore Kapil's batting while comparing his bowling to Waqar. Compare their batting stats as well if you want to focus on Waqar's strengths. And as for Kapil being fourth best I can conjure up 3 fast bowlers better than Waqar. (Marshall, Ambrose,McGrath - that's three already)

How many people have 434 test and 253 wickets at 27 and 29 , 5248 and 3783 runs at 31 and 24? Compare that to the number of people who have Waqar's stats? Without going into detailed calculations, there's around 10 people with Waqar's stats if not more for every allrounder with a 30+ batting average and a 30- bowling average. No points for guessing which achievement takes more skill and will be remembered 50 years on(outside of Pkaistan off course, I mean this is a country where some Toronto cricket match can wipe away the humiliation of 4 successive 3-0 white washes by Australia and two successive 3-0 and 3-1 maulings by England).

Waqar as a bowler = Kapil as an allrounder. A great but not the best.

In fact Kapil is better as unlike minnow basher Waqar(crap stats against India and Oz) Kapil completely dominated Indies with both bat and ball and took his team to a WC win. Unlike Waqar whose highest match played in the World Cup ended him being tonked by Jadeja. As for Barnes and Bradman they did not play World Cups but Waqar played three didn't he and in the two which he played a lot of matches in both of them ended in heartbreak - one by Jadeja, the other by Sachin.

Now instead of this troll part which you caught up on how about you reply to the part where I proved you wrong about the Kapil-Wasim 80s comparison and how Kapil's career would be over by 84-85. In fact Kapil would have kept his place till 94 as he his batting average in the 90's is comparable to Miandad and Aamir Sohail's in the 90s.
 
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81 from 56 tonight. Won the game for Mumbai batting second.

This kid has got to be selected or else i wont mind him moving to Pakistan. :facepalm:
 
81 from 56 tonight. Won the game for Mumbai batting second.

This kid has got to be selected or else i wont mind him moving to Pakistan. :facepalm:

Better than Manoj Tiwari in clean striking but never consistent. Unless he is of Kohli's class, he is not getting in to Indian team.

Maybe as a replacement for Dhoni when he is injured or off taking rest.

Will not be regular imho.
 
This guy's gold i am telling ya. Stats don't do justice to his talent. He performs when it matters.
 
Better than Manoj Tiwari in clean striking but never consistent. Unless he is of Kohli's class, he is not getting in to Indian team.

Maybe as a replacement for Dhoni when he is injured or off taking rest.

Will not be regular imho.

But in recent past I dont remember exact series P Patel was preferred over Rayudu. In my opinion he is a very good pressure player
 
This guy's gold i am telling ya. Stats don't do justice to his talent. He performs when it matters.

BTW, It was Rayudu and NOT Pollard who smashed Vinay Kumar and Zaheer and even Gayle before that last over.

That SRT dismissal reminded me of Zak vs Ganguly few years ago. Very few bowlers have got Ganguly on the drive (his strength) in India or anywhere.
 
^ Bilkul sahi.

I don't remember Tiwari, Parthiv, Rohit, Jadeja doing it in a tense chase.
 
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Its now or never. They didnt pick Uthappa when he was good and now they are wasting Rayudu who is far better than Uthappa ever was.
 
Rayudu, Harshal Patel fined for spat
Ambati Rayudu, the Mumbai Indians batsman, has been fined 100% of his match fee while Harshal Patel, the Royal Challengers Bangalore fast bowler, was docked 25% of his match earnings following a spat between the two after Mumbai Indians' tense win at the Chinnaswamy Stadium on Monday.

Rayudu was punished for using obscene and abusive language towards Harshal immediately after Mumbai Indians hit the winning runs in the final over. Harshal reacted and both players had to be restrained. Harshal was fined for a Level 1 offence, for bringing the game into disrepute.

Mumbai Indians captain Harbhajan Singh was also fined for maintaining a slow over-rate. They were found to be one over behind the required rate after allowances were taken into consideration. Harbhajan was fined $20,000 for his offence.

Mumbai Indians in particular have been guilty of a few transgressions this IPL, aside from the latest events. In their match against Deccan Chargers in Visakhapatnam, Munaf Patel and Harbhajan were guilty of showing dissent towards the umpire, after the umpire had initially chosen not to refer an appeal to the third umpire. Munaf was fined 25% of his match fee while Harbhajan was warned.

Munaf was guilty again in the game against Kings XI Punjab in Mumbai. He lost 50% of his match fee after making inappropriate gestures towards the batsman Nitin Saini, who had hit him for two fours.

Rohit Sharma was reprimanded for kicking the stumps after his team's nine-wicket loss to Royal Challengers last week at the Wankhede Stadium.
 
I am also looking for the fight video, should be cool. :yk
 
If he hasn't, he should pretty soon as he is still young. Exceptional talent when it comes to class and shot making. Better than Yusuf Pathan, Rohit Sharma and all the fringe batsmen in the Indian team IMO.
 
rayudu has nerves of steel. steps up when others fail more often than not. has been doing it consistently. also a complete team man. keeps when he has to, bats even at #8 despite being a higher middle order batsman. would be good for india in odis.
 
Tendulkar really needs to use his powers to get Rayudu in. :sachin
 
Should have played long long back! Rayudu hails from Hyderabad and was a bomb right from his school cricket days... He had scores like 156 off 46 balls which is still a record in Hyderabad circles... He's precociously talented and was in India A team 6-7 years back! But failures with India A had pegged him back and ICL happened. The guy's age is still 25-26 and he can still make a comeback atleast into T20 side!
 
Should have played long long back! Rayudu hails from Hyderabad and was a bomb right from his school cricket days... He had scores like 156 off 46 balls which is still a record in Hyderabad circles... He's precociously talented and was in India A team 6-7 years back! But failures with India A had pegged him back and ICL happened. The guy's age is still 25-26 and he can still make a comeback atleast into T20 side!

Ambati Rayudu can be made into a finisher! Look at this inning under pressure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKmi1xTi1i8
 
Looks like a paendu batsman with a very ugly personalized technique but no doubt the guy absorbs pressure and keeps fighting. He's just unlucky to be in India where he's not really needed so badly because our batting is rarely under pressure in ODIs. I am absolutely certain that he would have been very useful for Pakistan who have always needed batsmen who could just hang on there instead of throwing wicket away trying to play big booming drives.
 
Looks like a paendu batsman with a very ugly personalized technique but no doubt the guy absorbs pressure and keeps fighting. He's just unlucky to be in India where he's not really needed so badly because our batting is rarely under pressure in ODIs. I am absolutely certain that he would have been very useful for Pakistan who have always needed batsmen who could just hang on there instead of throwing wicket away trying to play big booming drives.

He is better than Nohit Sharma
 
50 on debut. Its only against Zim but he'd take it happily. :)
 
Ambati Rayudu-Should he have played for India?

I think the selectors have handled him well. Picked him only after a very good first class season and runs against touring sides rather than on the back of IPL form. Hope he builds on this whenever he gets chances. With Karthik not setting the stage on fire, he has everything to play for.
 
Doing rather well in another chase. Good player under pressure. #GAMBHIR
 
Should stick to ipl and domestic cricket,not upto international standards!
 
Wasted a good opportunity today. A 50 would have taken India to 300. This is only his 8th ODI and he averages 37 so far, not a bad start, but he is yet to face quality opposition yet.
 
Wasted a good opportunity today. A 50 would have taken India to 300. This is only his 8th ODI and he averages 37 so far, not a bad start, but he is yet to face quality opposition yet.

He just doesn't look the goods,pujara could easily replace him.
 
He doesn't really do much for me. Looks like a scratchy, tuk-tuk type player. Watched him a fair bit in the IPL and he's not exactly a big hitter or striker of the ball.

edit - just as i type that he hits a 6. Still I'm not a fan of his but would love to be proven wrong here.
 
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Everyone but the openers in that sig are better than tuk tuk rayudu

Rayudu is better than Shehzad, Jamshed, Haris (who can't find a place in Pakistan side!), dare I say Umar Akmal.

Fawad Alam is almost equal to him, but Rayudu will win it in long term..

Maqsood, yes, he's a better batsman and the only batsman I rate in that list
 
Rayudu is better than Shehzad, Jamshed, Haris (who can't find a place in Pakistan side!), dare I say Umar Akmal.

Fawad Alam is almost equal to him, but Rayudu will win it in long term..

Maqsood, yes, he's a better batsman and the only batsman I rate in that list
I said everyone but the openers
Pretty much ever Pakistani, even the most outspoken and negative ones like Mamoon rate Haris Sohail highly. Fawad has shown that he can rotate the strike effortlessly[with a partner, still have to see him alone do it] and can score big. Rayudu is a tuk tuk...he rivals Misbah and Shehzad. Umar Akmal has been our best ODI batsman for the last few years too and has 100s at high SRs.
The only person Rayudu is better than is Jamshed, he rivals Shehzad and the rest are better.
 
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Rating Haris highly is your opinion, that doesn't necessarily make him better batsman.

Rotating strike makes Fawad a better batsman? I didn't know these new parameters..

Umar Akmal may be your best ODI batsman, but Rayudu can still better him.

I've always seen Pakistani posters rate people on their style and potential rather than substance. This is a classic case of the same
 
And even after tuk-tuk, Misbah is your best batsman, agree or don't.
 
Rayudu is better than Shehzad, Jamshed, Haris (who can't find a place in Pakistan side!), dare I say Umar Akmal.

Fawad Alam is almost equal to him, but Rayudu will win it in long term..

Maqsood, yes, he's a better batsman and the only batsman I rate in that list

Shahzad is rubbish, yes.

Jamshed is a good player. He has a good game. He has lost the plot but will recover, hopefully.

Haris is a fantastic player. Effortless player. He can get bogged down but he can do almost everything. If you need an example, he tonked Ajmal and played him effortlessly in a couple of matches when they faced each other. He isn't getting selected because of the inconsistent selection policy.

Umar Akmal is inconsistent, yes. He has no idea to build an innings and that is my only problem with him. He can do everything else.

Fawad is a decent player.
 
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Rating Haris highly is your opinion, that doesn't necessarily make him better batsman.

Rotating strike makes Fawad a better batsman? I didn't know these new parameters..

Umar Akmal may be your best ODI batsman, but Rayudu can still better him.

I've always seen Pakistani posters rate people on their style and potential rather than substance. This is a classic case of the same
No by that I mean he's better than all young batsmen in Pak atm but Umar Akmal. He's played with all of them and has had better feats in games with them. His case is similar to Barry Richards(obviously not comparing one to an ATG) where Barry didn't do much at international but he did play in county and domestic games with other greats where he would regularly outperform them. Just like how Haris regularly outperforms Paks intl batsmen.
Fawad's strike rotation is miles better than Rayudu, as showed by todays innings he played far too many dots. Strike Rotation is a vital part of batting
I don't understand how and what evidence there is that Rayudu is better than Umar Akmal
And I don't do that, trust me. The only people I kno and believe have 'style' and 'potential' are Haris, Umar, Fawad and Maqsood. 'Talents' like Shehzad, Amin etc. I don't buy into.
 
Rating Haris highly is your opinion, that doesn't necessarily make him better batsman.

Rotating strike makes Fawad a better batsman? I didn't know these new parameters..

Umar Akmal may be your best ODI batsman, but Rayudu can still better him.

I've always seen Pakistani posters rate people on their style and potential rather than substance. This is a classic case of the same

I can say the same about your opinion on Rayudu.
 
All of our upcoming batsmen are better than Rayudu and so is an in form Jamshed.

He is way out of place in the Indian lineup.
 
Rayudu making good use of his limited talent(his shots are ugly to watch though)
 
He will not hold his place for long. Eventually, a younger and better talent will kick him out from the team.
 
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