Another failure for the TTFs while youngsters perform under pressure

[todfod 11]

The so called TTFs failed again today. Yes Im talking about the shehzad and Kamran Akmal.
Its a slap on tbe face of people who supported their inclusion in the team. On the other hand youngsters like shadab and hassan ali performed again under pressure.

I mean for how long we will have to see kamra akmal and shehzaad i the team when we know they are bound to flop. they might perform in 1 match out of 10 but still they are failures.

The blame also goes to Inzy who has not done justice to either his post or his stature in Pak cricket. A man of his stature should know by the look of a player that who is cut out for international level. Why is he taking pressure from media and ex players when he has the full authority to step up and say that kamran and Hafeez are not in our future plans and therefore stop talking about their selection.

The other day Sarafaraz made a big (Silly statement) that India is scared of playing pakistan. Who he think they are scared of?? Kamran akmal or hafeez or zulfiqar babar??

The selection of some players has baffled me. Things dont seem to be moving forward we stuck with TTFs and this will continue and we will be embarreced every time we play big tourneys.

 

[Speedster777]

Sohail Tanvir is the worse TTF along with Hafeez

 

[todfod 11]

Sohail Tanvir is the worse TTF along with Hafeez

sohail tanvir knows windies conditions better so i l take him for this series.. But kamran and hafeez makes no sense

 

[PakLFC]

Don't know why we keep picking Kamran. He does nothing at all other then drop catches then make silly faces. Surely these must be a better batsman we can pick instead of this tried and tested failure.

 

[todfod 11]

Don't know why we keep picking Kamran. He does nothing at all other then drop catches then make silly faces. Surely these must be a better batsman we can pick instead of this tried and tested failure.

People saw his 1 year domestic record and he got picked up but then I m asking what about his 5 years of failure at int. stage. How can you ignore that.

A batsmen who makes runs at domestic level and constantly fails at international level obviously he has some mental issues which do not let him perform when pressure is on. same goes for Umer Amin
picking of Kamran for this series has taken a good chance away for the likes of Fakhar ,hussain talat and harris.

 

[PakLFC]

People saw his 1 year domestic record and he got picked up but then I m asking what about his 5 years of failure at int. stage. How can you ignore that.

A batsmen who makes runs at domestic level and constantly fails at international level obviously he has some mental issues which do not let him perform when pressure is on. same goes for Umer Amin
picking of Kamran for this series has taken a good chance away for the likes of Fakhar ,hussain talat and harris.

Once an international he should be judged by those standards. He has never been that good only to be kept as a batsman. It is ridiculous to keep him as a batsman when we have some other options available. Add to that his complete failure as a fielder and lack of fitness suggests political reasons for him being in the side. If available Harris Sohail would be a much better option even if tried as an opener. As a keeper it is now impossible for him to ever be first choice over Sarfaraz.

 

[todfod 11]

Once an international he should be judged by those standards. He has never been that good only to be kept as a batsman. It is ridiculous to keep him as a batsman when we have some other options available. Add to that his complete failure as a fielder and lack of fitness suggests political reasons for him being in the side. If available Harris Sohail would be a much better option even if tried as an opener. As a keeper it is now impossible for him to ever be first choice over Sarfaraz.

Also what about shehzad the explosive batsmen.. who made 12 of 15 bals he faced and something similar in 1st t20..

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

sohail tanvir knows windies conditions better so i l take him for this series.. But kamran and hafeez makes no sense

Bhai you are making the same errors as the selectors then. Expereince should be backed by performance not just games played or places toured

If anything there is more merit to shezhad and Kami' selection then tool kit, though they all shouldn't be there

 

[Pete Rose]

I am not sure if this is a helpful perspective eventhough it's true. For me the headline is that our batting continues to fail regardless of the latest captains exhortations about playing aggressive cricket. Even Azhar Ali pulled a series win against the Windies. Real tests are to come.

 

[cricketInsight]

The so called TTFs failed again today. Yes Im talking about the shehzad and Kamran Akmal.

The younster(s) that performed were good in the bowling department. Our misery when talking about TTF usually is around batsmen.

Unfortunately we dont have many youngsters setting the world on fire with the bat. So Akmal and Shehzad will find their way back to team. They have top scored at the domestic level and the PSL.

So comparing good bowling performance with batting one is not apple to apples comparison. Dont fall into that trap! Point is Only Fakhar was the young batsman who had a decent PSL and he was rewarded with selection.

 

[todfod 11]

The younster(s) that performed were good in the bowling department. Our misery when talking about TTF usually is around batsmen.

Unfortunately we dont have many youngsters setting the world on fire with the bat. So Akmal and Shehzad will find their way back to team. They have top scored at the domestic level and the PSL.

So comparing good bowling performance with batting one is not apple to apples comparison. Dont fall into that trap! Point is Only Fakhar was the young batsman who had a decent PSL and he was rewarded with selection.

How will you find young batsmen when you not ready to give them chances??
the young atsmen who should have on this tour should have been
Fakhar
talat
Harris Sohail
Imam ul Haq

Talat just scored a brilliant 56 of 45 balls in under 23 match vs bangladesh batting at number 7!!!
He scored a brilliant 50 i psl as soon as he got a chance.
Selection on TTFS over these decent batsmen is just bafflling.

 

[cricketInsight]

How will you find young batsmen when you not ready to give them chances??
the young atsmen who should have on this tour should have been
Fakhar
talat
Harris Sohail
Imam ul Haq

Talat just scored a brilliant 56 of 45 balls in under 23 match vs bangladesh batting at number 7!!!
He scored a brilliant 50 i psl as soon as he got a chance.
Selection on TTFS over these decent batsmen is just bafflling.

1. Fakhar is selected and also got his first game. So not much to complain there.
2. Harris Sohail wont walk into the side after playing no cricket for 2 years. He will need to get into some run scoring form first. Besides he is hardly a T20 player.
3. Talat is promising but one fifty doesnt lead to national team selection. I'm sure he will get his chance. Kamran & Shehzad were top scorers and deserved their chance on merit.
4. Imam too is getting closer to his ODI selection but not a T20 player.

 

[todfod 11]

1. Fakhar is selected and also got his first game. So not much to complain there.
2. Harris Sohail wont walk into the side after playing no cricket for 2 years. He will need to get into some run scoring form first. Besides he is hardly a T20 player.
3. Talat is promising but one fifty doesnt lead to national team selection. I'm sure he will get his chance. Kamran & Shehzad were top scorers and deserved their chance on merit.
4. Imam too is getting closer to his ODI selection but not a T20 player.

exactly thats the thread about. kamran and shehzad are domestic bullies who have failed on i ternational level for a long time now so why select them when u know they will fail miserably..

 

[Pete Rose]

1. Fakhar is selected and also got his first game. So not much to complain there.
2. Harris Sohail wont walk into the side after playing no cricket for 2 years. He will need to get into some run scoring form first. Besides he is hardly a T20 player.
3. Talat is promising but one fifty doesnt lead to national team selection. I'm sure he will get his chance. Kamran & Shehzad were top scorers and deserved their chance on merit.
4. Imam too is getting closer to his ODI selection but not a T20 player.

Imam has list A strike rate of a little over 70. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere close to odi selection. But he will be selected on average rather thank strike rate and should be out of the team after 5 or so odis

 

[cricketInsight]

exactly thats the thread about. kamran and shehzad are domestic bullies who have failed on i ternational level for a long time now so why select them when u know they will fail miserably..

I am sorry but you can't fast track youngsters without performance at the lower levels. I am not asking them to prove themselves for 5 years but atleast show some consistent ability. If these domestic bullies continue t to prove that they are the best we got, what can you do?

Btw, I am no fan of Shehzad or Kamran but i dont like to see people bringing out their knives after a couple of games. If you selected them, give them 5-7 games and then talk about other options.

Its not that we have not tried youngters. That list is long too:
Saad Nasim, Rizwan, Sami Aslam, Masood, Maqsood, Nauman Anwar.

Currently Pakistan's best batsmen are Sharjeel, Babar, and Malik for the shorter formats. Sharjeel and Latif's departure justified the picking of Kamran and Shehzad. At least one them wont have made it otherwise.

 

[cricketInsight]

Imam has list A strike rate of a little over 70. He doesn't deserve to be anywhere close to odi selection. But he will be selected on average rather thank strike rate and should be out of the team after 5 or so odis

Yeah, he too is not suited for shorter formats. So how can we fault the selectors for picking in form options like Shehzad & Kamran.

 

[Pete Rose]

Yeah, he too is not suited for shorter formats. So how can we fault the selectors for picking in form options like Shehzad & Kamran.

There were other options: junaid ali and awais zia. Both opened both had a good tournament at at strike rate > 85

 

[saeed5646]

People saw his 1 year domestic record and he got picked up but then I m asking what about his 5 years of failure at int. stage. How can you ignore that.

A batsmen who makes runs at domestic level and constantly fails at international level obviously he has some mental issues which do not let him perform when pressure is on. same goes for Umer Amin
picking of Kamran for this series has taken a good chance away for the likes of Fakhar ,hussain talat and harris.

look at his international record even current afridi is better batsmen than him

 

[Saj]

The clock is ticking for some of these seniors now and unless they start to perform on a consistent basis their time will hopefully be up.

 

[goran]

To be honest, there are no promising youngsters waiting to be picked. Fakhar had a decent PSL and so got picked. I am sure even Inzy & Sarfraz knew that Kamran, Shehzad, Hafeez & Tanvir would fail again but did they have a choice? Can you name one aggressive LOI player who has performed consistently over a period of one year or so? Loss of Sharjeel and up to some extent Khalid Latif has hurt our LOI cricket big time. We have no option but to live with these TTFs for time being unless we find some good young players.

 

[Pete Rose]

To be honest, there are no promising youngsters waiting to be picked. Fakhar had a decent PSL and so got picked. I am sure even Inzy & Sarfraz knew that Kamran, Shehzad, Hafeez & Tanvir would fail again but did they have a choice? Can you name one aggressive LOI player who has performed consistently over a period of one year or so? Loss of Sharjeel and up to some extent Khalid Latif has hurt our LOI cricket big time. We have no option but to live with these TTFs for time being unless we find some good young players.

I can think of a couple. All folks have to do is look at the top 10 run scorers in the last two domestic odi tournaments in Pakistan

 

[ask_analyse_act]

The clock is ticking for some of these seniors now and unless they start to perform on a consistent basis their time will hopefully be up.

Sir that never happens in pakistan cricket... the same TTFs if discarded now, will be back after a year or two for sure to fail again and the cycle continues...

 

[ask_analyse_act]

To be honest, there are no promising youngsters waiting to be picked. Fakhar had a decent PSL and so got picked. I am sure even Inzy & Sarfraz knew that Kamran, Shehzad, Hafeez & Tanvir would fail again but did they have a choice? Can you name one aggressive LOI player who has performed consistently over a period of one year or so? Loss of Sharjeel and up to some extent Khalid Latif has hurt our LOI cricket big time. We have no option but to live with these TTFs for time being unless we find some good young players.

Knowingly selecting that they will fail is atrocious... Instead would try fresh faces to see how do they fare at int'l level.... the cupboard is not empty, those four can easily be replaced by Hussain Talat, Saad Ali, Sohail Khan... Even Azhar ali and Imam-ul-Haq are better batsmen in ODIs compared to kamran and Shehzad who wont last longer than 10 overs...Could have even tried to keep haris in the squad to get him accustomed to the int'l level quickly after the injury....well hafeez is hafeez (best bits pieces pak ever had)

 

[todfod 11]

Knowingly selecting that they will fail is atrocious... Instead would try fresh faces to see how do they fare at int'l level.... the cupboard is not empty, those four can easily be replaced by Hussain Talat, Saad Ali, Sohail Khan... Even Azhar ali and Imam-ul-Haq are better batsmen in ODIs compared to kamran and Shehzad who wont last longer than 10 overs...Could have even tried to keep haris in the squad to get him accustomed to the int'l level quickly after the injury....well hafeez is hafeez (best bits pieces pak ever had)

I would take a youngster failing everyday then to see shehzaad score a 15 ball 12.

 

[todfod 11]

Another day at office..

Shehzad the tendulkar 0
Sohail Tanvir 3 over 40 runs and 2 runs of 4 balls

Saqlain said he is the best all rounder in the world currently..