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An online petition calling for Donald Trump to be prevented from making an official state visit to the UK has passed 1m signatures.

The petition, on the government’s official petitions site, which at one point was being signed by more than a thousand people a minute, quickly reached the 100,000 signatures needed to be considered for a debate in parliament.

However, Downing Street confirmed that Theresa May would not be withdrawing her invitation to the US president because it remained “substantially in the national interest”.

The petition, which falls short of calling for Trump to be banned from the UK, argues that he should not receive a full state visit, including audiences with the royal family, “because it would cause embarrassment to Her Majesty the Queen”.

The petition’s creators said: “Donald Trump’s well-documented misogyny and vulgarity disqualifies him from being received by the Queen or the Prince of Wales. Therefore during the term of his presidency Donald Trump should not be invited to the United Kingdom for an official state visit.”

As global condemnation of the ban spread, British Conservative politicians joined the Labour party and Liberal Democrats in questioning May’s decision to go ahead with a state visit during which Trump would be courted by the government and royalty.

Jeremy Corbyn called for the visit to be postponed while Trump’s immigration ban was in place. He also questioned why May was so quick to invite the president given his controversial policies. “Donald Trump should not be welcomed to Britain while he abuses our shared values with his shameful Muslim ban and attacks on refugees’ and women’s rights,” the Labour leader said.

“Theresa May would be failing the British people if she does not postpone the state visit and condemn Trump’s actions in the clearest terms. That’s what Britain expects and deserves.”

Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader, said in an interview on Sky News’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday that the invitation should be withdrawn and should never have been made. “What I am opposed to is Theresa May, when she should have gone over to the States to defend our corner and stand up to Donald Trump, has gone over and held his hand and is being seen now as giving him a royal audience in the United Kingdom,” Farron said.

“She should be standing up for British people and British interests, not going over there and tickling his tummy.”

Ruth Davidson, the leader of the Conservative party in Scotland, released a statement saying state visits were designed “to celebrate and entrench the friendships and shared values” between countries. Trump, she said, should not be welcomed to Britain “while a cruel and divisive policy which discriminates against citizens of the host nation is in place”.

Writing in the Guardian, the Tory MP Sarah Wollaston said that while the state visit would be likely to go ahead, how it was done would provide an important “symbol”. She argued that Westminster Hall ought to be reserved for leaders who had made a lasting and positive difference to the world. “That does not include Mr Trump. No doubt there will be those who wish to fawn over him but that must not be from the steps of our nation’s greatest hall,” she said.

Parliament has already held a debate about Trump following a public petition about whether to ban the Republican presidential frontrunner from entering the UK after he originally floated the idea of banning Muslims from America. MPs described him as a “fool”, a “buffoon” and a “wazzock” in the lengthy parliamentary debate in January last year.

Last year’s petition calling for a second EU referendum following the vote for Brexit was the largest parliamentary petition on record. It was signed by more than four million people.

In addition to the anti-Trump petition, campaigners from groups including Stand Up to Racism are planning to organise “the biggest demonstration ever” to coincide with the US president’s visit. On a Facebook event page, organisers said: “The invitation to Donald Trump for a state visit will be opposed by millions in Britain. Our government should not be seen to be endorsing the sorts of ideas and policies he is putting forward. We are committed, along with other campaigning organisations including Stop the War, People’s Assembly against Austerity and CND, to oppose this visit and to organise mass protests if it takes place.”

Downing Street was asked for a response to the calls to cancel his state visit. A spokesman said: “We extended the invite and it was accepted.” Buckingham Palace has declined to comment.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...o-prevent-uk-state-visit-passes-1m-signatures
 
Ok so he will visit UK but am sure there will be street protests.
 
The petition isn't calling for him to be banned, it is calling for it not to be designated as a State Visit. i.e. he won't get photo opportunities with the Queen

There is a debate going on in Parliament right now. Already veteran MP Dennis Skinner has compared him to fascists Hitler and Mussolini and said he's not fit to follow in footsteps of Nelson Mandela
 
Enjoying watching the debate live as we speak. Passionate and bombastic.

The state visit will go ahead though.
 
The petition isn't calling for him to be banned, it is calling for it not to be designated as a State Visit. i.e. he won't get photo opportunities with the Queen

There is a debate going on in Parliament right now. Already veteran MP Dennis Skinner has compared him to fascists Hitler and Mussolini and said he's not fit to follow in footsteps of Nelson Mandela

Why was he even compared to Nelson Mandela surely he too would find that bizzare, don't think even the liberal favorite Gandhi is equivalent to the Great Mandela.
 
1.3 Million and counting. Trump will come. But he might find that instead of the streets lined with flag waving Brits all happy so see the Mighty Trump, they are instead jam packed with demonstrators telling him to get back on Air Force One and get the hell out of the UK.
 
Trump obviously should be allowed to visit but should be denied all the elements of a full state visit. Its the least this government can do.

Tory MPs are bleating on about Trump's "democratic mandate" - firstly he lost the popular vote by a record margin, and secondly being "democratically elected" doesn't give you carte blanche to conduct racist and discriminatory policies.
 
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Wasn't Netanyahu supposed to be in jail after landing in Uk when a similar campaign was carried out last year
 
Glad that the citizens of US's biggest ally feel this way
 
Wasn't Netanyahu supposed to be in jail after landing in Uk when a similar campaign was carried out last year

I asked this in another thread the other day - has change.org ever changed anything ever, anywhere?

Exactly. Just an online gimmick.
 
However one thing that I found to be hypocritical is that the majority of Britons voted for a Brexit which focused on almost the same kind of things that Trump talks about.
 
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However one thing that I found to be hypocritical is that the majority of Britons voted for a Brexit which focused on almost the same kind of things that Trump talks about.

Not really. UK has no giant walls and no total bans.

Brexit was about self-determination, controlled immigration and a different economic future.
 
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I asked this in another thread the other day - has change.org ever changed anything ever, anywhere?

Exactly. Just an online gimmick.

This is an official UK Government and Parliament petition. It clearly states as follows: "Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate."
 
He probably won't come if he is denied a state visit, eventually the Tory government will give in to his demands esp since now May has become his sidechick.
 
I asked this in another thread the other day - has change.org ever changed anything ever, anywhere?

Exactly. Just an online gimmick.

Well what do you want people to do ??

This is how democracy works - peaceful protest or signing a petition means it gets debated at least.

You can bow down to a lunatic like Trump should you do wish but I'm glad others are among their voices heard against this narcissistic deluded facist.
 
However one thing that I found to be hypocritical is that the majority of Britons voted for a Brexit which focused on almost the same kind of things that Trump talks about.

I wouldn't say majority want Brexit. It was 51-49. It wasn't 100% voter turn-out, and some who did vote for Leave would now choose differently. It's a very decisive issue that still has the country torn.
 
Nadhim Sawahi had a very passionate and balanced speech today in the Commons Debate.
 
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Donald Trump tells Theresa May he won't visit the UK unless she bans protests

Donald Trump is refusing to visit the UK unless Theresa May can ensure that he is not met with protests.

Bloomberg revealed that Trump complained in a phone call to May about the "negative coverage" he has received in the British press.

May told the US president that that was how the UK media operated and she could do little to change it.

Trump went on to say that he would not visit the UK unless there were guarantees that he would not be met with protests.

Advisers who had been listening to the phone call are reported to have been "astonished" at the demands.

The pair are due to meet for bilateral talks at the World Economic Forum in Davos today (25 January).

Trump's complaints and demands are the latest indicator of the increasingly fractious "special" relationship between the UK and US after Trump pulled out of a visit to Britain.

The president had been billed to open the new US embassy in London in February but cancelled the trip citing his displeasure at its "off location" in south London.

The old embassy in Grosvenor Square was deemed a major security headache that could not be fixed, which meant a new building had to be put up somewhere else in London. It was eventually decided to relocate it to a more secure location, just a few miles away in the Vauxhall area.

Trump has stoked anger in the UK ever since he came to power nearly a year ago.

He attacked the Mayor of London Sadiq Khan in the wake of terror attacks in London, prompting the mayor to call for any visit by Trump to the UK to be called off.

Public disdain for Trump escalated further when he turned his anger on May.

She condemned him as "wrong" to retweet posts by members of the far-right group Britain First.

Trump tweeted back: "Theresa May, don't focus on me, focus on the destructive Radical Islamic Terrorism that is taking place within the United Kingdom. We are doing just fine!"

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/donald-tru...ont-visit-uk-unless-she-bans-protests-1656638
 
^ That story appeared before their meeting at Davos and is based on an old bit of news that was never verified.

He will come. He does not really have a choice. Many of his contemporaries has visited Britain and faced protests. To refuse to visit based on this would make him a very weak leader.
 
They’ll sneak him in and out again like they did Bush 43.
 
I dont think it matters much anyway, England will soon be a muslim country and America wont be allies with them anymore after that.
 
The UK and trump are on the same wavelength especially Teresa, Farage and Tommy
I cant see Trump internal drones in UK affairs and the continuation of Manchester turning into the next New York City being halted at all
 
I dont think it matters much anyway, England will soon be a muslim country and America wont be allies with them anymore after that.

No we are going to take over Australia first, the weather is more to our liking. Get packing and go back to Texas.
 
I dont think it matters much anyway, England will soon be a muslim country and America wont be allies with them anymore after that.

America has a large and fast growing Muslim community. We ain't Australia lmao.
 
No we are going to take over Australia first, the weather is more to our liking. Get packing and go back to Texas.

A straight swap would make more sense. Muslims head for Australia, the Craigs and Sheilas come back home to England with a full pardon from the Queen. Europe will be restored, and Australia was probably some eastern dump anyway.
 
A straight swap would make more sense. Muslims head for Australia, the Craigs and Sheilas come back home to England with a full pardon from the Queen. Europe will be restored, and Australia was probably some eastern dump anyway.

Just like Timor.
 
Mildly relevant:
Remembering Reagan:

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Apparently he came up with 'Obama Nation' as well, guy is a wordsmith
 
Off topic : Does these petitions even work ? In past any govt. or institutions have changed / reversed their decisions because of an online petition ?
 
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If you ask that question you obviously don't understand the point of petitions
 
Off topic : Does these petitions even work ? In past any govt. or institutions have changed / reversed their decisions because of an online petition ?

They do not. They're just a product of this generation, who like to display angst on social media and little else.

Every now and then I see them on my Facebook newsfeed too: "Help Shipra get 10 million signatures for her cause". If she gets to 10 million, nothing will happen. If she doesn't get to 10 million, nothing will happen.
 
They do not. They're just a product of this generation, who like to display angst on social media and little else.

It's about awareness.

Someday, it might make a difference.

Raising awareness about something is better than doing nothing, anyway.
 
Muslims Urged to #DumpTrump
President Trump's xenophobia and bigotry is now well established. There are many minority groups that had have witnessed his open hostility. However, it is the Muslims who have faced Trump’s sustained and overt verbal wrath.

His Islamophobic rhetoric precedes his presidency. As a presidential candidate, Trump frequently made disparaging statements about Muslims and even stocking fear when he stated, “I think Islam hates us”. In 2011 Trump in a television interview with Bill O’Rrelly promoted the idea that, “there is a Muslim problem in the world, and you know it and I know it”. The idea of a Muslim Problem in Trump world saw him calling for a greater surveillance of Muslims, to provide Police powers to search Muslim without a warrant and create a database that track Muslims.

Upon gaining Presidency Trump brought to fruition his rhetoric and begun with appointing known individuals with Islamophobic views. This was followed by a proposal to ban on people from seven Muslim majority countries. He did not reserve his views on Muslims to the U.S. but included Europe and the UK as having a Muslim Problem. On 29 November 2017 he re-tweeted Islamophobic tweet from the deputy leader of UK’s far-right political group Britain First.

The effect of his rhetoric has seen an increase in Islamophobia globally and in the UK for the first time an anonymous call was made to make 3 April “Punish a Muslim Day”. With the victory of Trump came the normalisation of Islamophobia and it is thus extremely important for Muslims in the UK to show their opinion when Trump arrives on 13 July in London.

Many British groups from various political, religious and cultural backgrounds are coming together in the United Kingdom to show their concern to Trump and his rhetoric. In this circumstance it would be amiss if the Muslims in the UK did not come out in strength. The need to demonstrate is thus paramount for Muslims. It is with this in mind that #DumpTrump campaign has been launched.

The #DumpTrump campaign aims to bring Muslims across the country to take this opportunity to confront the challenges of Islamophobia and say enough is enough! It is time Muslims take a prominent lead in confronting the challenges they face.

Can you help #DumpTrump?

We need your help to distribute leaflets and put up poster in shops and mosques to publiscise the demonstration on July 13th.
 
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