As an Indian what was your emotional experience from supporting a team lower than dirt to arguably one of the greatest teams of all time in 30yrs?

[subbu]

India in 90s wan an Average team ..92 and 99 wc were really poor

But they have few multinational tournaments

Asia Cup (1990-91): India hosted and defeated Sri Lanka in the final.

Hero Cup (1993): India won this 5-nation tournament at home, beating the West Indies in the final.

Asia Cup (1995): India won their fourth title, defeating Sri Lanka in Sharjah
.
Singer World Series (1996): India won a three-nation tournament in Sri Lanka involving Australia and the hosts.

Independence Cup (1997-98): India won this tournament in Dhaka, known for chasing over 300 against Pakistan in the final.

Coca-Cola Champions Trophy (1998): A tri-nation tournament in Sharjah (Oct 1998).

and few more tri series wins..

 

[subbu]

Few more in 90s
Titan Cup 1996 -involving Aus, SA, and India
Tri series In Dubai 1998, involving Aus, Nzl India..Sachin's sand storm series

Nidhahas trophy 1998-99 tri series in SL 99
So it's not all below the dirt

Multi national tournaments Finals India won in 90s

 

[uppercut]

As a non Indian here is my perspective even though thread is not addressed to me.

Before : Indians lower than dirt.

Now: Indians lower than dirt but holding trophy.

It like the saying, you can't put lipstick on a pig, or polish a turd etc etc ( saying for analogy purposes only).

Is that due to cricketing reasons or non-cricketing reasons ?

 

[Kianig89]

From Robin Singh to Hardik Pandya definitely progress.

From Vijay Dahiya to S Samson definitely progress.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Still India plays 5 test matches in Australia & England. They will eventually get back the #1 ranking in test cricket too.

What about your favorite Sri Lanka - haven't won a single test match in India & Australia since 1982.

Less said about minnow Bangladesh - a 3rd class team who will play in Australia this year after 2008

at most you can say India is a mid tier team. How in the world is top 4 terrible? if top 4 is something BD hasn't every reached, if i remember correctly. If top 4 India is terrible, what does it say about BD? Pathetic, gone to sh**er? cr**?

 

[RahulBose]

I guess that is why they are not humble/mature about their victories.

They are rags to riches.

Anyway, I expect their decline soon. Their Test and ODI decline already started.

Rags to flithy rags - Bangla bondhos

 

[SportsWarrior]

He has been really inspired by Dhurandar movie, but fails to realise that you need to be subtle. I think he felt his subtle trolling was not getting enough attention so now is trolling in a much more obvious manner.

However that has made his recent trolling very unfunny and even Pak posters are not responding to him. Should go back to being subtle.

his original trolling was good some times. now he looks very cringe and attention seeking. dare i say desperate for approval. overall his post quality has gone done. i enjoy some trolling and trolling Indians will get the most views, but his has not been all that good. he is not getting the kind of attention he was getting earlier. @Bhaijaan has to go back to his original self and troll us

 

[RahulBose]

Nice try OP.

This is obviously a clickbait trigger happy thread title.

Congratulations on getting a few Indians triggered.

Will not change the number of trophies Pak has though....


Coz that takes actual effort, planning and Jigra.

Mocking is the tool available to Pak fans, yield it while you can

 

[SportsWarrior]

From my experience, Pakistanis are the biggest sore losers in cricket. They would rather claim their team fixed a match against India instead of accepting defeat gracefully.​

worlds most sore loser award in any sport is reserved for english people. They are followed by Australians who will either just walk away saying that format is not good or work in the background to completely remove that sport.

there are others like BD, but i don't consider them as they are perpetual losers. Aus is a legendary sporting nation, Eng wins often, but whining BDs are useless clowns and whine with zero achievements to their credit

then comes Pak fans. They just whine about everything and find conspiracies. they have the biggest victim complex every. Everything is against them, everyone is fighting them, while most boards don't even think much about them. they are just a mid tier team who will do well occasionally. I always put them in the same bracket as SL although recently SL has struggled a lot

 

[SportsWarrior]

Not sure why some emotional Indian posters are taking this the wrong way… yes the Indian teams of the past were nowhere near the current team in fielding and bowling.

Learn to take a compliment. Always crying and never grateful

To the Indians who genuinely answered the question, glad that you guys can appreciate the tough journey the team has been through for the last 30 years

lol you know fully well why indian posters are taking wrong way. You were both factually incorrect in stating that Indian team was lower than dirt and also giving back hand complements

 

[DeadlyVenom]

This has been going viral on social media. I don't see any need to make such comparisons but it did remind me of this thread. Indians shouldn't be so critical.

 

[jnaveen1980]

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This has been going viral on social media. I don't see any need to make such comparisons but it did remind me of this thread. Indians shouldn't be so critical.

Coping. They could very well share AMbani's house instead lol It is not like every Indian is living in this condition. Having said that i am sure tehse guys live more happily than some of the English guys who are rich and in state of depression. Happiness can be found anywhere.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Indians were never that bad...but yes it's true... Ignominious defeats in past plus pity from PCT fans were their fate
But how fast the night changes...it appears diagonally opposite now

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Coping. They could very well share AMbani's house instead lol It is not like every Indian is living in this condition. Having said that i am sure tehse guys live more happily than some of the English guys who are rich and in state of depression. Happiness can be found anywhere.

I think my post got edited. It was from a prominent Indian social media personality. People need to learn to separate cricket from other fields and enjoy the game for what it is.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

I think my post got edited. It was from a prominent Indian social media personality. People need to learn to separate cricket from other fields and enjoy the game for what it is.

Yes it was from an Indian handle, but we don't give space to such lots in CF

 

[nish_mate]

Indians were never that bad...but yes it's true... Ignominious defeats in past plus pity from PCT fans were their fate
But how fast the night changes...it appears diagonally opposite now

Not pity but scorn from PCT fans. Lets not attempt to paint a rosier picture. Hopefully ICT fans have better grace than PCT fans from the past year.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I think my post got edited. It was from a prominent Indian social media personality. People need to learn to separate cricket from other fields and enjoy the game for what it is.

Those are rage baiting posts. Result of Elon Musk's evil money making tactics.

 

[TheNeutralist]

The way Pakistani fans post people might think they may have won 5-10 world cups. Pakistan has never beaten India in 50 over world cup and they say Indian team was bad in 90s.

 

[RexRex]

India have definitely come a long way since the days of the fiery Abey Kuruvilla. Credit goes to Lalit Modi for the initial steps of modernising the Indian game.

 

[SportsWarrior]

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This has been going viral on social media. I don't see any need to make such comparisons but it did remind me of this thread. Indians shouldn't be so critical.

how will NOT winning the world cup help with Indian problems? winning or not winning the world cup will have zero impact on indian poverty. India is better off winning and having sense of achievement rather than not winning and being poor anyway

NZ is not all sweet and honey. They have one of the highest outward migration anywhere in the world. Yes, much higher than India and every other developing country in the world. Pretty picture you see there doesn't tell the whole story. Their own population is rejecting that picture and moving to other countries to make a better life for themselves at a much high rate than Indians

New Zealand's population exodus hits 13-year high as economy worsens

New Zealand citizens leaving the country have hit the highest levels in 13 years, with more than a third of those emigrating aged under 30 years as unemployment rises and economic growth remains soft.

www.reuters.com

 

[SportsWarrior]

The way Pakistani fans post people might think they may have won 5-10 world cups. Pakistan has never beaten India in 50 over world cup and they say Indian team was bad in 90s.

imagine how bad PCT must have been if they were not able to beat lower than dirt Indian team. I don't think many of these posters think much before they come up with these posts. They think they are owning Indians while getting owned themselves

 

[Suleiman]

A disrespected team throughout the 90s to now a team with one of the cleanest records in t20s.

How did this happen?! Incredible!

In the 90s if you didn’t show an Indian bowler eyes and point to him exactly where in the crowd you would deposit the next ball then you were being too conservative yaar.


Now if you do it you’re just crazy. Team to beat fo sho .

 

[Kianig89]

A long way , completely turned the tables since the time SL use to beat them for fun, such as Coco Cola Cup 2000, India all out on 54. what a transformation

 

[Suleiman]

A long way , completely turned the tables since the time SL use to beat them for fun, such as Coco Cola Cup 2000, India all out on 54. what a transformation

100%

Before Pakistan could get away with once in a blue moon mercurial sightings and performance like this


However now the gulf between both sides is too big that you need 3-4 blinders like this to win.. this is just t20s, imagine 200+ in t20s

 

[Kianig89]

India were the actual pioneers of T20 cricket, this one back in late 80s ,

Even with Gavaskar they scored 6 an over. Its just once Lalit Modi started printed $$$ , they found their true self. 2 decades late but worth it!

Rest of world is all catch up now

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-india-1986-87-61523/india-vs-pakistan-6th-odi-64308/full-scorecard

 

[RexRex]

A disrespected team throughout the 90s to now a team with one of the cleanest records in t20s.

How did this happen?! Incredible!

In the 90s if you didn’t show an Indian bowler eyes and point to him exactly where in the crowd you would deposit the next ball then you were being too conservative yaar.
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Now if you do it you’re just crazy. Team to beat fo sho .

That was some bad antics from Aamir Sohail when he pointed to the boundary. He earned a fan in me despite playing for the opposition. Too bad Venky ruined that moment for him a ball later.

I'd love to see some batsman today replicate that.

 

[giri26]

India were never as bad as Pakistan are right now, even during their bad phases. India always had great players in the team but had poor bowling which could not win games overseas. India were never devoid of star players who on their day can light up any game. Even in the 90's India still were unbeatable at home in Tests and were decent in ODIs. India had Sachin, Saurav, Dravid, Srinath, Kumble, Azhar, Jadeja etc in the XI who all in their own right were great to very good. Yeah India did not know how to win games overseas which was partly skill but was also a bit of mental block stemming from the previous generation. It needed someone like Sourav and the emergence of Zaheer Khan and the fast bowlers who came after him to break the trend. So no, even though it was frustrating to follow India cricket team in the 90's they were not lower than dirt, for example we weren't the best team in the world but lost to Zimbabwe and SL at home.

 

[sweep_shot]

India were the actual pioneers of T20 cricket, this one back in late 80s ,

Even with Gavaskar they scored 6 an over. Its just once Lalit Modi started printed $$$ , they found their true self. 2 decades late but worth it!

Rest of world is all catch up now

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/pakistan-tour-of-india-1986-87-61523/india-vs-pakistan-6th-odi-64308/full-scorecard

I wouldn't be surprised if BJP textbooks teach India invented cricket.

They are #1 when it comes to distorting history and making up facts.

 

[Major]

Watching how indians get insecured of their past is the reason why one cant have any discussions with them.

A world t20 win, and they think they were the australian team in the 80s till 2000s

 

[Major]

Indian cricketers were knowing for stealing socks and now they are getting 150 carores.

Its a rags to riches story

 

[jnaveen1980]

India were never as bad as Pakistan are right now, even during their bad phases. India always had great players in the team but had poor bowling which could not win games overseas. India were never devoid of star players who on their day can light up any game. Even in the 90's India still were unbeatable at home in Tests and were decent in ODIs. India had Sachin, Saurav, Dravid, Srinath, Kumble, Azhar, Jadeja etc in the XI who all in their own right were great to very good. Yeah India did not know how to win games overseas which was partly skill but was also a bit of mental block stemming from the previous generation. It needed someone like Sourav and the emergence of Zaheer Khan and the fast bowlers who came after him to break the trend. So no, even though it was frustrating to follow India cricket team in the 90's they were not lower than dirt, for example we weren't the best team in the world but lost to Zimbabwe and SL at home.

Tendulkar was the captain of 1998 MCC vs ROW XI. Srinath and Kumble played as well. contributions of indians much better

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/princess-of-wales-memorial-match-1998-640603/marylebone-cricket-club-vs-rest-of-the-world-xi-640027/full-scorecard

 

[charlie007]

Watching how indians get insecured of their past is the reason why one cant have any discussions with them.

A world t20 win, and they think they were the australian team in the 80s till 2000s

I think a lot of Indians will have a good, genuine discussions if currently aggrieved posters stop using extreme and untrue phrases like “lower than dirt”. That would imply India were dead last in all rankings, and I wouldn’t use that term for even the teams that actively were at the lowest rankings. It speaks more about that person than the team he’s referring to.

Even in the 70s, 80’s and 90’s that were supposedly the low times, India did extremely well at home, drew a few series abroad, beat West Indies in West Indies and England in England, won multiple ICC trophies, and by 1987, were considered a pretty good team. So that lower than dirt comes across as more hateful than the ground truth. If you wish to invite someone for a good discussion, you have to be reasonable and not appear insulting. Makes sense?

 

[Suleiman]

Watching how indians get insecured of their past is the reason why one cant have any discussions with them.

A world t20 win, and they think they were the australian team in the 80s till 2000s

They have always been very sentimental people, so you have to handle them with a lot of care. It’s like the one friend you compliment but he twists it into an insult and leaves the function.

But they need to appreciate their journey and the humble beginnings of team India way back when in the 60s and 70s when India was a piñata for Pakistan, England, Australia and WI.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Watching how indians get insecured of their past is the reason why one cant have any discussions with them.

A world t20 win, and they think they were the australian team in the 80s till 2000s

In the 80s Three multi national tournaments happened

1983, 1985, 1987

India won 1983,1985
India reached semis in 1987

Australia won 1987. That's it. Got kicked out in QF by India in 1983. Got kicked out in early rounds by India in 1985.

 

[charlie007]

Indian cricketers were knowing for stealing socks and now they are getting 150 carores.

Its a rags to riches story

Yeah, they should have rather bowled no balls, bitten balls, or jumped on the pitch with their spikes all on camera!

Better a rags to riches story than a rags to rags going nowhere story, don’t you think?

 

[jnaveen1980]

They have always been very sentimental people, so you have to handle them with a lot of care. It’s like the one friend you compliment but he twists it into an insult and leaves the function.

But they need to appreciate their journey and the humble beginnings of team India way back when in the 60s and 70s when India was a piñata for Pakistan, England, Australia and WI.

Are you sure man lol Naqvi was literally dashing out of the stadium as he realized nightmare was becoming true and decided to fine his people based on one match.

 

[aqua99]

As a non Indian here is my perspective even though thread is not addressed to me.

Before : Indians lower than dirt.

Now: Indians lower than dirt but holding trophy.

It like the saying, you can't put lipstick on a pig, or polish a turd etc etc ( saying for analogy purposes only).

I now realize butt hurt concept is real.

 

[Suleiman]

Are you sure man lol Naqvi was literally dashing out of the stadium as he realized nightmare was becoming true and decided to fine his people based on one match.

Pakistan has its own issues but that’s for Pakistan to sort, I’m not a Pakistani fan so I don’t have any reaction to it and don’t really care.

This was just a celebratory thread, a heroic Rocky esque story but going by Indian fans’ reactions, Rocky has gotten too proud now and refuses to acknowledge his humble beginnings as World Champ, so another team will have to give you guys the Clubber Lang treatment now, sorry to say.

 

[charlie007]

They have always been very sentimental people, so you have to handle them with a lot of care. It’s like the one friend you compliment but he twists it into an insult and leaves the function.

But they need to appreciate their journey and the humble beginnings of team India way back when in the 60s and 70s when India was a piñata for Pakistan, England, Australia and WI.

In the 1960s, India and Pakistan played one drawn series 0-0. In the 70’s, Pakistan won their 1978-79 home series 2-0 and Indian beat Pakistan 2-0 in their home series in 1979-80.
India beat West Indies in West Indies in a Test series, and England in England, in the 70’s.
Point being, check your facts before you speak trash.

 

[jnaveen1980]

In the 1960s, India and Pakistan played one drawn series 0-0. In the 70’s, Pakistan won their 1978-79 home series 2-0 and Indian beat Pakistan 2-0 in their home series in 1979-80.
India beat West Indies in West Indies in a Test series, and England in England, in the 70’s.
Point being, check your facts before you speak trash.

Given the amount of biased umpiring in pakistan and exceessive ball tampering, lack of noball monitoring all those wins came with asterisk. They were mostly bilaterals. There is a reason why they got thrashe dby India in multi national events. IN benson hedges India absolutely destroyed pakistan in both matches. Even in Asia cup India/SL are the best performers over 40 plus years. Pakistan is a distant third.

 

[Van_Sri]

As a non Indian here is my perspective even though thread is not addressed to me.

Before : Indians lower than dirt.

Now: Indians lower than dirt but holding trophy.

It like the saying, you can't put lipstick on a pig, or polish a turd etc etc ( saying for analogy purposes only).

Deadly Venom Spitting on India

 

[JaDed]

Indians were never that bad...but yes it's true... Ignominious defeats in past plus pity from PCT fans were their fate
But how fast the night changes...it appears diagonally opposite now

yeah all the pity and you guys still lost so many series against India including all Wc games.

Its very similar to how Pak fans are today best player is outside the team and PCT always wins in hypothetical scenarios.

 

[IndCricFan]

I guess that is why they are not humble/mature about their victories.

They are rags to riches.

Anyway, I expect their decline soon. Their Test and ODI decline already started.

Ahh...remember that proverb which says shokuner shape goru more na Cheer up bro, no one takes you and your team seriously anyway. So sit on the fence, the discussion is going among seniors, who at least won some tropies at international level.

 

[IndCricFan]

In the 1960s, India and Pakistan played one drawn series 0-0. In the 70’s, Pakistan won their 1978-79 home series 2-0 and Indian beat Pakistan 2-0 in their home series in 1979-80.
India beat West Indies in West Indies in a Test series, and England in England, in the 70’s.
Point being, check your facts before you speak trash.

Come on, man, the internet is not always affordable to many of our beloved padosis. Cut some slacks

 

[Hellion]

A great experience. What's even more satisfying is seeing us crush Pakistan to bits in most cricket matches.

Back then you had tamperers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Javed, Gul and Akhtar and chuckers like Saqlain, Ajmal and Hafeez running riot.

Once this filth was disallowed and the sport got cleaner , we saw the expected level of cricket coming from Pakistan.

 

[harshjoshi87]

India in 90s wan an Average team ..92 and 99 wc were really poor

But they have few multinational tournaments

Asia Cup (1990-91): India hosted and defeated Sri Lanka in the final.

Hero Cup (1993): India won this 5-nation tournament at home, beating the West Indies in the final.

Asia Cup (1995): India won their fourth title, defeating Sri Lanka in Sharjah
.
Singer World Series (1996): India won a three-nation tournament in Sri Lanka involving Australia and the hosts.

Independence Cup (1997-98): India won this tournament in Dhaka, known for chasing over 300 against Pakistan in the final.

Coca-Cola Champions Trophy (1998): A tri-nation tournament in Sharjah (Oct 1998).

and few more tri series wins..

Singer World Series (1994) was a quadrangular series involving India, Sri Lanka, Australia & Pakistan.

 

[BouncerGuy]

A great experience. What's even more satisfying is seeing us crush Pakistan to bits in most cricket matches.

Back then you had tamperers like Imran, Wasim, Waqar, Javed, Gul and Akhtar and chuckers like Saqlain, Ajmal and Hafeez running riot.

Once this filth was disallowed and the sport got cleaner , we saw the expected level of cricket coming from Pakistan.

so now we have chuckers like bumrah, ashwin, harbhajan, etc that is why sports got bad once again...

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

so now we have chuckers like bumrah, ashwin, harbhajan, etc that is why sports got bad once again...

Not to mention Zimshek, Axar

 

[Hellion]

so now we have chuckers like bumrah, ashwin, harbhajan, etc that is why sports got bad once again...

No matter how much you cry about Ashwin and Bumrah, won't change the facts that they aren't chuckers.

The only reason I'm not bringing up Usman Tariq and your current chuckers is because they suck even with their bent arms.

 

[Local.Dada]

India won World Cup and world championship (original champions trophy) in 80s, won test series in England and was one of the top tier odi teams for a brief period in the 80s.

While 90s India was rebuilding and was a middling team, still reached semis in 90s, finals of B&H trophy that had a strong Aus and WI, was dismantling teams at home, however off-field with satellite revolution, rise of commercialization, BCCI was getting richer by the day and making the right moves, also reached the final of 2000 CT, won Asia cups and was the final frontier for big teams to win in India.

2000s-2026 I think the journey is self-explanatory. It included 3 Ct,1 Wc, 3 WT20s, million Asia cups, 2 series wins in Australia, series win in Eng, Nzl, 2 drawn series in SA, 2 WC finals, 1 WT20 final. 1 CT final.

Can understand OP is sore from the events of the last few weeks so thread title emanating from the soreness if you know what I mean.

 

[Hellion]

Not to mention Zimshek, Axar

Zimshek, lol. He wipes the floor with your chimps, Rizwan and Bobby

 

[Local.Dada]

so now we have chuckers like bumrah, ashwin, harbhajan, etc that is why sports got bad once again...

Not worse than Hafeez and Ajmal actually getting banned for blatant chucking. Proved using techinology and not random photoshops or

2010 when players got caught fixing in the middle of a match.

Nothing embarrassed the sport more than that in recent times.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Not worse than Hafeez and Ajmal actually getting banned for blatant chucking. Proved using techinology and not random photoshops or

2010 when players got fixing in the middle of a match.

Nothing embarrassed the sport more tha that in recent times.

BCCICC doing fine work nowadays....

 

[uppercut]

India won World Cup and world championship (original champions trophy) in 80s, won test series in England and was one of the top tier odi teams for a brief period in the 80s.

While 90s India was rebuilding and was a middling team, still reached semis in 90s, finals of B&H trophy that had a strong Aus and WI, was dismantling teams at home, however off-field with satellite revolution, rise of commercialization, BCCI was getting richer by the day and making the right moves, also reached the final of 2000 CT, won Asia cups and was the final frontier for big teams to win in India.

2000s-2026 I think the journey is self-explanatory. It included 3 Ct,1 Wc, 3 WT20s, million Asia cups, 2 series wins in Australia, series win in Eng, Nzl, 2 drawn series in SA, 2 WC finals, 1 WT20 final. 1 CT final.

Can understand OP is sore from the events of the last few weeks so thread title emanating from the soreness if you know what I mean.

Most importantly we are the single largest inflictors of pain on Pak in ICC/Asia cup events. BTW they last won the Asia cup back in 2012 ...

 

[nish_mate]

so now we have chuckers like bumrah, ashwin, harbhajan, etc that is why sports got bad once again...

As opposed to smooth bowlers like Taskin....

 

[Suleiman]

Sad that quite a few Indians are choosing to get bent out of shape instead of basking in joy of winning this trophy and being at the top of the cricketing food chain after an exhaustive 30 year journey.

From being the cricketing world’s piñata to head honcho.

However quite a few Indians are still in fight or flight mode after getting abused for decades and can’t handle a simple congratulations and pat on the back with certain folks trying their hardest to recall one off random wins to feel better about the 80s and 90s.

Not realizing that despite those random wins in Agarbathi Bicycle Triangular Cup that Indian reputation back then in cricket was a mere shadow of what it is today.

There’s no shame in going from humble beginnings to dominating limited overs cricket and having marquee wins in places like Australia and South Africa within 30 years in tests.

It’s about the journey, not the starting point, remember that.

No need to get sensitive, we want what’s best for you- hum tumare saat hain, and the whole world concedes you guys are the team to beat in limited overs.

 

[JaDed]

Even in our dirt poor form we won 1983 wc and 1985 series against Imran’s team along with all wc games against Pak.. Pak’s peak< India’s dirt level..

Wah team ho to aisi

 

[charlie007]

Even in our dirt poor form we won 1983 wc and 1985 series against Imran’s team along with all wc games against Pak.. Pak’s peak< India’s dirt level..

Wah team ho to aisi

Leave it bro, the message has been communicated, hope he makes better decisions around choosing derogatory words in the future. Time to ignore this thread now!