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"Asad Shafiq in ODIs cannot be considered a senior player as he is hardly given chances" : M Yousuf

Mohammad Yousuf speaking on TV after the 2nd ODI:

"The Australia team is nothing special and we should really have won the first game also."

"Asad Shafiq in ODIs cannot be considered a senior player as he is hardly given chances."

"Junaid and Asad were out of team due to personal dislike."

"I fail to understand why a technically sound player like Asad Shafiq is not backed by the board or the media."

"I don't understand why after 7 years Umar Akmal still hasnt learned his lessons."

"Umar Akmal has never impressed me as a batsman."
 
Again blind hatred for Umat by Pakistanis and overhyping of Asad Shafiq in ODIs
 
67 odd ODIs under so many different skippers and this guy is not given chances? And he is bashing Akmal, who as bad as he is, is ten times the batsman in ODI that Shafiq ever will be. :inti
 
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Asad Shafiq was being bullied by Aussie pacers and he didn't even have the heart to take a single. He succumbed to the pressure. He's had what, 70 odd games now? How many more chances does one need. I would go as far as saying he could very well be the most terrible top order ODI batsman in the history of the game. At least since we've been playing 50 over.s
 
This is why I never take pundits on Pakistani tv channels seriously. Apart from Latif and M Wasim on PTV Sports, there is no one really good to listen to.
 
hes talking about technique shafiq not being a consistent run, he plays a couple of games here and there.

but theres good reason for that - even with an odd game here and there, a quality batsman would at least sometimes come through. as much as i love yousuf, he has held on to grudges so tightly it does himself a huge disservice, and he just doesnt make any sense.
 
Loved this guy as a batsman but my word he is an incredibly vindictive and hypocritical person
 
Yousuf always talks rubbish. Shafiq has been given 50 chances too many. Should never play ODIs for Pakistan. Awful player in the format.
 
Akmal is still miles better than Asad technique and under Mickey he will finally establish his spot in the team. How is this Australia side nothing special. This is their best 11! Yousuf is either bitter or he's a plain idiot
 
Asad once praised Yousuf on TV as his favorite Pakistani batsman, since then Yousuf sees a Kohli in Asad.
 
Pakpak said:
Is this a joke?

The guy has had 70 LOI matches, and has ZERO centuries or anything of note to show for it.
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Playing matches here and there is not considered consistent and that's how Asad has played in most of his ODI career if not all.
 
srh said:
Playing matches here and there is not considered consistent and that's how Asad has played in most of his ODI career if not all.
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Here and there? :91: The guy has been a consistent in so many series I have lost count:

He played in every series from his debut in 2010 till 3rd September 2012, that is almost 2 years (TEN SERIES). He was kicked out after that but somehow made his way back into the team months later where he played every series from March 2013 till November 2013 (4 series to be precise) During which he failed to pass double digits in half of his innings. He was kicked out again after failing and came back in Dec 2014 and played 2 series without making a single big score. His next appearance was in Zimbabwe in Lahore, where he failed dismally in all matches. And now Australia.

The guy has played regularly, stop making up make-believe facts.
 
srh said:
Playing matches here and there is not considered consistent and that's how Asad has played in most of his ODI career if not all.
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Except he came in and looked horrible for many matches in a row.

This is a make or miss sport. You perform or you do not. I don't care about how consistent it is or not. Nearly 70 ODIs as a batsmen with less to show than a mediocre all-rounder.

He should be finally put to rest as an LOI player.
 
Pakpak said:
Here and there? :91: The guy has been a consistent in so many series I have lost count:

He played in every series from his debut in 2010 till 3rd September 2012, that is almost 2 years (TEN SERIES). He was kicked out after that but somehow made his way back into the team months later where he played every series from March 2013 till November 2013 (4 series to be precise) During which he failed to pass double digits in half of his innings. He was kicked out again after failing and came back in Dec 2014 and played 2 series without making a single big score. His next appearance was in Zimbabwe in Lahore, where he failed dismally in all matches. And now Australia.

The guy has played regularly, stop making up make-believe facts.
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you dont understand what is consistent mean? :facepalm:

look at these ODI series Pakistan played after 2015 WC (excluding the current one):

1) 2015 Pak vs BD series in BD: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

2) 2015 Pak vs Zim series in Pak: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 3 ODIs

3) 2015 Pak vs SL series in SL: Total matches played = 5 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

4) 2015 Pak vs Zim series in Zim: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 2 ODIs

5) 2015 Pak vs Eng series in UAE: Total matches played = 4 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

6) 2016 Pak vs NZ series in NZ: Total matches played = 2 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

7) 2016 Pak vs Ire series in Ire: Total matches played = 1 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

8) 2016 Pak vs Eng series in Eng: Total matches played = 5 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

9) 2016 Pak vs WI series in UAE: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

So out of 29 ODI matches in the above 9 ODI series, Asad Shafiq has played only 5 ODIs. Thats inconsistent. :moyo
 
It is baffling to me how a guy who is so so good in Tests struggles in ODIs. I mean he even had a stellar List A record before his debut, and may I remind you folks that the century he scored in the first test came at a SR of around 70. So striking at a relatively acceptable rate shouldn't have been a huge problem for Asad.

I don't understand why Asad has gone the YK way in which Test performances are above and beyond the ODI performances. For YK you can hypothesize that he needs a substantial amount of time to get set in a test innings and doesn't have the same luxury in ODIs and therefore struggles, but Shafiq even in tests doesn't need 20 balls to get off the mark so the same theory doesn't apply.


It has to be a mental thing, or a temperament issue. There is no other reason.
 
srh said:
you dont understand what is consistent mean? :facepalm:

look at these ODI series Pakistan played after 2015 WC (excluding the current one):

1) 2015 Pak vs BD series in BD: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

2) 2015 Pak vs Zim series in Pak: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 3 ODIs

3) 2015 Pak vs SL series in SL: Total matches played = 5 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

4) 2015 Pak vs Zim series in Zim: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 2 ODIs

5) 2015 Pak vs Eng series in UAE: Total matches played = 4 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

6) 2016 Pak vs NZ series in NZ: Total matches played = 2 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

7) 2016 Pak vs Ire series in Ire: Total matches played = 1 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

8) 2016 Pak vs Eng series in Eng: Total matches played = 5 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

9) 2016 Pak vs WI series in UAE: Total matches played = 3 ODIs; Asad Shafiq played = 0 ODIs

So out of 29 ODI matches in the above 9 ODI series, Asad Shafiq has played only 5 ODIs. Thats inconsistent. :moyo
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Wait, why only post 2015?

Why are you forgetting the FOURTEEN FULL series from his debut till 2013 where he FAILED in ALL of them? After failing in a dozen series spread over 3 years he is lucky he even got the above chances! And here you're whining about consistency! And even in the above list he played against Zimbabwe, the easiest of opposition where even Shehzad scored and he failed. And why stop there, literally months before your magical cut off date of 2015, he had 2 full series against NZ and Australia, where, you guessed it, he failed yet again. Perhaps if you stopped cherry picking stats and inventing cut-off dates to suit your posts instead of looking at his whole career then you'd know how poor he is, and also you ought to look up what consistent means. :facepalm:
 
Syed1 said:
It is baffling to me how a guy who is so so good in Tests struggles in ODIs. I mean he even had a stellar List A record before his debut, and may I remind you folks that the century he scored in the first test came at a SR of around 70. So striking at a relatively acceptable rate shouldn't have been a huge problem for Asad.

I don't understand why Asad has gone the YK way in which Test performances are above and beyond the ODI performances. For YK you can hypothesize that he needs a substantial amount of time to get set in a test innings and doesn't have the same luxury in ODIs and therefore struggles, but Shafiq even in tests doesn't need 20 balls to get off the mark so the same theory doesn't apply.


It has to be a mental thing, or a temperament issue. There is no other reason.
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The issue is that he cannot keep up with the speed of the ODI game to score runs and yes a mental block, but after 70 matches, it is time to move on and never look back. He's 31, if his mental aspect is out of it, then it will be out of it till the end of his days.
 
:murali

The guy got so many chances early on. He was awful.

is Yousuf living in another dimension?
 
kingusama92 said:
:murali

The guy got so many chances early on. He was awful.

is Yousuf living in another dimension?
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Forget Yousaf, there is a poster 2 posts above who is cherry picking post '15 stats (long past when Shafiq deserved any chance) and saying he's been badly treated.
 
Pakpak said:
Wait, why only post 2015?

Why are you forgetting the FOURTEEN FULL series from his debut till 2013 where he FAILED in ALL of them? After failing in a dozen series spread over 3 years he is lucky he even got the above chances! And here you're whining about consistency! And even in the above list he played against Zimbabwe, the easiest of opposition where even Shehzad scored and he failed. And why stop there, literally months before your magical cut off date of 2015, he had 2 full series against NZ and Australia, where, you guessed it, he failed yet again. Perhaps if you stopped cherry picking stats and inventing cut-off dates to suit your posts instead of looking at his whole career then you'd know how poor he is, and also you ought to look up what consistent means. :facepalm:
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why you think the topic is Asad's failure? The topic is Inconsistency as I said in my 1st post in this thread:

Agree with Moyo that Asad is never played consistently.
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Moyo is right about this.
 
srh said:
why you think the topic is Asad's failure? The topic is Inconsistency as I said in my 1st post in this thread:



Moyo is right about this.
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And I literally proved you wrong above. The guy in his first three years was played in 14 series. Failure rate? All 14. Since then he was given 2 full series in UAE. Failure rate? Failed both. After that he has been given easy chances against Zimbabwe. Failure rate? You guessed it.

He was lucky to be given any chance after 2014 at all, and even after that when he was given any chance against dross opposition he failed.

Moyo is probably right only in your universe. Neither stats nor anyone else back up your view. I have bolded some points above, though I doubt it would make a difference.
 
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Yousuf is absolutely right on the money with all of his comments.

Yes, Shafiq has played 59 ODIs, but he's never gotten a consistent run in the side. Quite unfair on him that he's always picked for one game, then dropped for next ten games, and the cycle just continues like that forever!

I don't want Shafiq in the ODI squad but the criticism which he receives is very harsh. If he's picked, he deserves at least fifteen games on the trot. Otherwise, he should just be discarded and not picked again. This solution is much better than the circus which goes on in the PCB.

Regarding Umar Akmal, he'll NEVER improve and absolutely shouldn't be in the squads. The fact that he couldn't lose weight despite being out of team for so long just shows his dedication and the work ethic. Akmal and Shehzad both got to play hundred matches and their positions were undisrupted.
 
Shafiq is the worst ever ODI batsman to come out of Pakistan.

Imagine this: a batsman with the batting average of mediocre Afridi but half his strike rate.And, only a batsman; can't bowl. This is Shafiq's mediocrity.
 
Takes a lot of courage and character to admit you are wrong. Then there are some people, who after being proven wrong countless times, still voice their delusions just to save face, even if deep down they actually believe the opposite.
 
asfandyar said:
Takes a lot of courage and character to admit you are wrong. Then there are some people, who after being proven wrong countless times, still voice their delusions just to save face, even if deep down they actually believe the opposite.
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What scares me the most is that deep down they actually think they are right. It's ignorance not just arrogance. Despite being such great players some of these retired guys just haven't moved on and realized that the game has changed.
 
Abdul said:
Yousuf is absolutely right on the money with all of his comments.

Yes, Shafiq has played 59 ODIs, but he's never gotten a consistent run in the side. Quite unfair on him that he's always picked for one game, then dropped for next ten games, and the cycle just continues like that forever!

I don't want Shafiq in the ODI squad but the criticism which he receives is very harsh. If he's picked, he deserves at least fifteen games on the trot. Otherwise, he should just be discarded and not picked again. This solution is much better than the circus which goes on in the PCB.

Regarding Umar Akmal, he'll NEVER improve and absolutely shouldn't be in the squads. The fact that he couldn't lose weight despite being out of team for so long just shows his dedication and the work ethic. Akmal and Shehzad both got to play hundred matches and their positions were undisrupted.
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Here is Asad's ODI matches list:

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...s=2;template=results;type=allround;view=match

Here are different 15 match brackets for Shafiq:

1) 21 June 2010 - 24 Mar 2011 ==== 15 games ==== average 30@69 SR
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...1;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

2) 24 Mar 2011 - 14 June 2012 ==== 15 games ==== average 29@68 SR
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...1;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

3) 14 June 2012 - 9 Nov 2013 ==== 15 games ==== average 21@71 SR
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...2;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

4) 9 Nov 2013 - 16 Jan 2017 ==== 14 games ==== average 19@59 SR
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...3;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting


Any sane person can see that for the first 3 brackets, Asad was given consistent chances, yet averaged at most 30 at a miserable strike rate of 69.

The problem with Asad is not with being given inconsistent chances, but the failure to transition from domestic mentality to international one. He destroys domestic lineups with utmost disdain, yet appears meek in internationals.
 
Abdul said:
Yousuf is absolutely right on the money with all of his comments.

Yes, Shafiq has played 59 ODIs, but he's never gotten a consistent run in the side. Quite unfair on him that he's always picked for one game, then dropped for next ten games, and the cycle just continues like that forever!

I don't want Shafiq in the ODI squad but the criticism which he receives is very harsh. If he's picked, he deserves at least fifteen games on the trot. Otherwise, he should just be discarded and not picked again. This solution is much better than the circus which goes on in the PCB.

Regarding Umar Akmal, he'll NEVER improve and absolutely shouldn't be in the squads. The fact that he couldn't lose weight despite being out of team for so long just shows his dedication and the work ethic. Akmal and Shehzad both got to play hundred matches and their positions were undisrupted.
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I disagree.

He's had multiple runs of getting 10+ games in a row. One in 2011 and then in 2013-2014.

He's a straight up failure of the highest order.
 
aliasad1998 said:
What scares me the most is that deep down they actually think they are right. It's ignorance not just arrogance. Despite being such great players some of these retired guys just haven't moved on and realized that the game has changed.
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That boils down to formal education and literacy, which our greats lack, unfortunately. It is quite appalling, yet all the more possible, for a great batsman like Yousuf, who maintained good numbers during his era, to back a stats disaster like Asad Shafiq.
 
Abdul said:
Yousuf is absolutely right on the money with all of his comments.

Yes, Shafiq has played 59 ODIs, but he's never gotten a consistent run in the side. Quite unfair on him that he's always picked for one game, then dropped for next ten games, and the cycle just continues like that forever!

I don't want Shafiq in the ODI squad but the criticism which he receives is very harsh. If he's picked, he deserves at least fifteen games on the trot. Otherwise, he should just be discarded and not picked again. This solution is much better than the circus which goes on in the PCB.

Regarding Umar Akmal, he'll NEVER improve and absolutely shouldn't be in the squads. The fact that he couldn't lose weight despite being out of team for so long just shows his dedication and the work ethic. Akmal and Shehzad both got to play hundred matches and their positions were undisrupted.
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15 games ? That's nearly a year , that too for an outdated batsman who has the worst record for any pure top order batsman in history.


If he had any class surely he would have showed it by now. Plus saying he should get more but Umar should is damning hypocritical . One is a nice guy who is awful , the other is a compete fool who has had some moments, no comparison between the two
 
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pakistanigoneaussie said:
15 games ? That's nearly a year , that too for an outdated batsman who has the worst record for any pure top order batsman in history.


If he had any class surely he would have showed it by now. Plus saying he should get more but Umar should is damning hypocritical . One is a nice guy who is awful , the other is a compete fool who has had some moments, no comparison between the two
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This is Umar Akmal logic at its finest

Good to see that its not just applicable to just him anymore :))

'Player A does badly in the good number of chances he gets. But that is why he deserves to play more rather than be dropped"
 
As for as he is concerned about umar he is 100% right and i thought umar will be life banned for international cricket because of his childish behavior. He never seems to be learned from his mistakes.
Regarding Asad, I am bit confused how to describe M. Yousuf statement but I think he has been given enough chances in odi but at the same time not the consistent number of matches to let him to describe himself. But strongly believes enough is enough, needs to put some energy in batting and his style of batting is not suitable under current form of ODI cricket. Hopeful to see Haris Sohail back in the side.
 
A case was made for Shafiq to get an extended run at 3, but that is no longer an option after the emergence of Babar. For number 4, Malik is a better option and Haris could return this year.

Could he be tried as an opener instead of Azhar, perhaps yes, but he is a liability below number 4.
 
I think it's fair to say that between 2010-2016 there was ever room only for two of and no more from younis, Azhar, misbah and Asad.

The reason being that quite simply you need someone to be able to bat properly and hold down an end to stop a typical Pakistani collapse. The sad fact is that it would appear this strategy though good on paper hasn't translated into results and is exactly why Pak LO cricket is in the doldrums after misbah and younis retired from ODI's. Neither Azhar nor Asad really cut it as Odi batsmen and even with Misbah and younis we didn't exactly set the world on fire.

The issue is, do you try to stick with this strategy or invest in sloggers to at least score quickly. All the major teams have a couple of sloggers in and around the squad so perhaps we might take this route soon. Unfortunately we don't have too many babar Azams or sharjeel khans around I.e batsmen that are of good calibre and can score quickly.

After that it's just a bassetts all sorts.
 
For a moment, lets nullify 59 ODI appearance of Asad Shafiq in ODIs and consider the statement of Yousuf correct.
Short or extended run is no use if the batsman is not ready to grab his chance and make full use of it. E.g. in the last ODI there was virtually no pressure on Pakistani batsmen when Asad came onto bat. He could have used the opportunity to play his shots and dominate the proceedings (not Afridi style but his maestro Yousuf style i.e. taking calculated risks and playing classic cricket shots). But he always keeps on following a timid approach and getting bogged down.

The onus is on him to finally grab his chance if he wants to be part of ODI step, and if there is deficiency in his approach to ODI cricket he has to find that himself. Giving more chances won't help if there is no effort on his side.
 
IMO, Asad Shafiq needs help of a sports psychologist.

He got everything but fails to consistently deliver (even in tests).
 
shafiq 2.0 >>> shafiq 1.0

will def come good. i wouldnt be surprised if he pulls a sharma, once he opens the innings... sad that we dont have a dhoni. if you cant see his talent, u are blind or biased...
 
cricwiz said:
For a moment, lets nullify 59 ODI appearance of Asad Shafiq in ODIs and consider the statement of Yousuf correct.
Short or extended run is no use if the batsman is not ready to grab his chance and make full use of it. E.g. in the last ODI there was virtually no pressure on Pakistani batsmen when Asad came onto bat. He could have used the opportunity to play his shots and dominate the proceedings (not Afridi style but his maestro Yousuf style i.e. taking calculated risks and playing classic cricket shots). But he always keeps on following a timid approach and getting bogged down.

The onus is on him to finally grab his chance if he wants to be part of ODI step, and if there is deficiency in his approach to ODI cricket he has to find that himself. Giving more chances won't help if there is no effort on his side.
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You cannot play freely when your selection is dependent.
Gutsy players perform in such pressure situations but most players do crumble.
 
It absolutely amazes how there are STILL some people who advocate for his selection.

Thank God, there was no media hype/forums around during the 90s or else even Wajahatullah Wasti would've ended up playing 100+ matches for Pakistan.
 
Black Zero said:
You cannot play freely when your selection is dependent.
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Every player's selection is dependent on performance. Only your place in the team is confirmed after you have performed. Asad Shafiq's place in Test team is never in question as he does enough to retain his No. 6 spot.

Black Zero said:
Gutsy players perform in such pressure situations but most players do crumble.
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I quoted the situation of last match where there was virtually no pressure on Shafiq as required run rate was very much in control with enough wickets in hand. He didn't need to be gutsy but sensible and play his natural game. But his approach was very timid. If he cannot grab such opportunities, how will he deal pressure situations??

Same goes for Test. As I said before, Asad Shafiq does enough to retain his place in Test XI. But he has yet to goto next level i.e. play match winning innings when it matters the most i.e. 3rd/4th innings of a Test (especially the 4th one). There have been some innings, but mostly under shadowed due to bigger contributions from veterans Younis n Misbah. Sadly in lost Test matches, he averages more than won causes (again talking about 3rd n 4th innings) - this indicates to the fact that he has never played that one innings of note where he single handedly can take the side to winning position. Simply no one can guide him to that next level but only him. He is already around 31 years old - this is normally prime age of a batsman.
 
he's even ordinary in the format he's been given a billion chances in - in tests, performing very well once every ten innings and failing in the other nine is not an indication of quality.

if i he can't even stand out there, how is he going to do it in a format he's never even produced the one in ten performances in?
 
Abid Z said:
I think it's fair to say that between 2010-2016 there was ever room only for two of and no more from younis, Azhar, misbah and Asad.

The reason being that quite simply you need someone to be able to bat properly and hold down an end to stop a typical Pakistani collapse. The sad fact is that it would appear this strategy though good on paper hasn't translated into results and is exactly why Pak LO cricket is in the doldrums after misbah and younis retired from ODI's. Neither Azhar nor Asad really cut it as Odi batsmen and even with Misbah and younis we didn't exactly set the world on fire.

The issue is, do you try to stick with this strategy or invest in sloggers to at least score quickly. All the major teams have a couple of sloggers in and around the squad so perhaps we might take this route soon. Unfortunately we don't have too many babar Azams or sharjeel khans around I.e batsmen that are of good calibre and can score quickly.

After that it's just a bassetts all sorts.
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It is important to differentiate between dynamic batsmen and sloggers. Most of the successful ODI teams today i.e. Australia, India, England, SA etc. do not have more than 1-2 sloggers per lineup. What they have is a bunch of batsmen who can consistently strike at 100 while playing cricketing shots, which is why they can consistently score 300+. A lineup of sloggers will fire once or twice, but more often than not, it will fail because they play a lot of low percentage shots.

This is where Pakistan have failed spectacularly. We do have sloggers like Afridi, Umar, Maqsood, Mukhtar etc., but we are woefully short of dynamic batsmen who can maintain a 35+ average while striking at 100+. 2-3 such batsmen will revitalize Pakistan's ODI cricket and bring it on par with the top teams in this format.
 
A 30 years old who has played 59 ODIs and 53 tests in last 6 years is still a youngster???
 
Asad is even worse than Younis in ODIs. For some time, Younis was actually a decent limited overs batsman. Asad has never looked anywhere near selectable in ODIs.
 
Mamoon said:
It is important to differentiate between dynamic batsmen and sloggers. Most of the successful ODI teams today i.e. Australia, India, England, SA etc. do not have more than 1-2 sloggers per lineup. What they have is a bunch of batsmen who can consistently strike at 100 while playing cricketing shots, which is why they can consistently score 300+. A lineup of sloggers will fire once or twice, but more often than not, it will fail because they play a lot of low percentage shots.

This is where Pakistan have failed spectacularly. We do have sloggers like Afridi, Umar, Maqsood, Mukhtar etc., but we are woefully short of dynamic batsmen who can maintain a 35+ average while striking at 100+. 2-3 such batsmen will revitalize Pakistan's ODI cricket and bring it on par with the top teams in this format.
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I couldn't agree more.

The sad fact is Pakistan hasn't produced any dynamic players that can score at a decent rate in the last five years. Babar and sharjeel are too young in their careers. They could easily go the way of nasir jamshed.

On the other hand sloggers have either been discarded by other teams (Luke wright, ronchi, finch) or they have evolved into decent players. Pakistan management seem to still cling to this old fashioned idea that their turtles will one day become hares but I think it's got to be seen as a flawed strategy. It was 6 years in the making and has proved to be a failure. Too many slow batsmen crawling along. I can see Azhar trying to up his game, but shafiq just seems too fragile.
 
Asad is good for test matches! Not limited overs cricket..
I still remember Mr.Yousuf created the hype about Asad in ODI's by comparing Asad with himself & saying all kinds of stuff about Misbah/management being against him, when asked if he had seen the games(on going series) he said no, i was busy! (on tv)
Yes we had some brilliant players in the past who did very well on the field, does not mean they should come on Tv & say anything they want��
 
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Is this why Yousuf likes Shafiq?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/IqMhHzFpcEE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Whenever he succeeds, he speaks highly of Yousuf.
 
Garbage ODI player. Disgusting that he keeps getting selected. So happy he got out early
 
How does he have any supporters? Can anyone give me a tangible reason he should be on the team?
 
This guy has to be the most useless ODI player having zero temperament at this level.
 
is there any other player who played as a spcialist batsman and has 60+ ODIs yet averages 25?
 
Too many passengers in ODI batting line up. Hafeez, Azhar, Akmal, Shafiq they should be kicked out.
 
Mental midget isn't even consider a senior in the test team despite playing there for years and being 30+,hopefully pak will drop him from both format after haris comeback.
 
Please drop Asad before his confidence is damaged and he cannot even play Test Cricket.
 
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