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Asia Cup 2018 Post Mortem - Where did it go wrong?

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ok guys where do youfeel it went wrong for Pakistan?

Selection, players out of form, batting order, poor bowling, abysmal fielding, poor captaincy or something else?

Beat Hong Kong the weakest team of the tournament
Hammered by India by 8 wickets
Scraped past Afghanistan by 3 wickets
Thrashed by India by 9 wickets
Easily beaten by Bangladesh by 37 runs
 
Playing too much against minnows, collapsing under pressure and overall not having selected the right players in the last 2 years and ofcourse not selecting specialist spinners in these conditions was the most unforgivable blunder.
 
There is no self belief in the setup, one wicket falls the rest join in.

No confidence, nothing at all.

I think some of the players needed this humiliation to come back down to earth.

They started believing their own hype.
 
It went wrong with the players. That squad is just terrible. Mickey Arthur and Inzamam, and of course Sarfraz, should be put on trial in that way the Pakistan media does. They have a lot to answer for. It won't - and should not - cost them their jobs, but it piles up the pressure on the Australian series.
 
Selection big time
Hafeez and Imad should have been in team
You were expecting Nawaz to win games?
 
Not selecting more spinners.

Main reason though is simply we don't play good cricket in UAE in ODIs. Get trounced by visiting sides all the time. I really wonder why I get why perhaps the fast bowlers fail, but our own batsmen seem to struggle to bat in UAE which really surprises me.
 
1) Sarfraz is a poor captain
2) Our Key player Amir was out of form
3) We have some nothing players that can only be utilized in highly specialized situations. Asif Ali, Nawaz are not players Pakistani team needs or can afford.
 
When safaraz goes up to his bowlers & tells them where to bowl.

When Imam tells Asif how to bat if your going to start coaching in the middle of a match expect a thrashing.
 
No major changes needed. Will have to find some quick fixes for now. Sarfraz's time is up. Amir is a lost case.
I would bring back Hafeez and Imad Wasim. Hand over the captaincy of the ODI team to Hafeez. On the sidelines we can experiment and try some new faces in T20s.
 
No major changes needed. Will have to find some quick fixes for now. Sarfraz's time is up. Amir is a lost case.
I would bring back Hafeez and Imad Wasim. Hand over the captaincy of the ODI team to Hafeez. On the sidelines we can experiment and try some new faces in T20s.
Lack of quality spinners in the side
 
Sarfraz is finished and is a passenger in the team.

Fakhar was badly out of touch and struggles in UAE. Zaman failing was huge as he has his the deficiencies of this poor batting line up.

Also picking players like Nawaz and Shadab instead of specialist spinners.
 
Saffie is a C-grade cricketer and appears more and more unfit for the captaincy every day. He simply doesn't merit a place in the side, nor is he in a position to motivate the boys to put in a performance when he himself cannot perform.
 
1. No proper spinner taken to asia cup.
2. Lack of reliable batsmen.
3. Poor captaincy (e.g. lack of slip fielders).
4. Lack of boundary hitters (shadab/Nawaz/faheem can't clear the boundary when needed. Thus we lack good all rounders.)
5. Batsmen unable to rotate strike.
6. Poor fielding (dropped catches).
 
The batting is awful perpetuated by a puzzling batting order. We've gone back to not being able to catch after a period of much improvement. The bowling is regressing fast. We have a very poor ODI record in "our home" for the last few years. But the batting is still the biggest problem. Wholesale changes or a drastic change of approach is required there.
 
No major changes needed. Will have to find some quick fixes for now. Sarfraz's time is up. Amir is a lost case.
I would bring back Hafeez and Imad Wasim. Hand over the captaincy of the ODI team to Hafeez. On the sidelines we can experiment and try some new faces in T20s.

The lack of obvious candidates for the captaincy is another major concern. Is this team so devoid of leaders that the next best option after Sarfraz is to recall a 37 year old Hafeez?

Indian fans must be laughing their heads off right now.
 
no need of postmortem...it's very simple....conditions in UAE are not ideal for Pakistan's style of play....it will be altogether a new Pakistan when we see them in England next year...they will easily make it to semifinals...and from there, anything can happen
 
It is clearly thee batting again. We just can't score heavily enough to challenge the opposition. We have the longest tail that starts after Shoaib. I have no faith in our batsmen. Are these really the best batsmen in Pak or are the all safarshis? Someone answer this question.
 
Poor display in all three phases. I think the worst aspect of this tour was Sarfraz's captaincy/batting and his lack of overall ability as a cricketer. He maybe the worst cricketer on this team and continues to regress with every game he plays. What is even more shocking is Arthur's backing of Sarfraz. Winning the CT was great for Pak, but it also established Sarfraz as the captain till the WC, which is not ideal. The lack of captaincy options is also alarming.
 
Poor display in all three phases. I think the worst aspect of this tour was Sarfraz's captaincy/batting and his lack of overall ability as a cricketer. He maybe the worst cricketer on this team and continues to regress with every game he plays. What is even more shocking is Arthur's backing of Sarfraz. Winning the CT was great for Pak, but it also established Sarfraz as the captain till the WC, which is not ideal. The lack of captaincy options is also alarming.

I think Sarfaraz has punched above his weight as a cricketer. His purple patch from 2014 to 2016 is over.
 
Amir didn't play today otherwise result may have been different. He is a big game player and he should have played.
 
Iss team se umeed hi nahi lagani chaye... Useless team with useless captain, useless coach and useless selector.
 
not much of a cricket with better teams

not selecting Junaid

no backup spinner

Dropping Faheem for no reason

mediocre fielding

not good filed placing
 
Amir didn't play today otherwise result may have been different. He is a big game player and he should have played.
Problem isn't bowling. Pakistan will ultee out good bowlers even after a pleasant drink of lassi.

It's the batting. Couldn't chase 230 against a minnow level attack. Pathetic.
 
Pakistan have one proper batsman - Babar azam.
Malik is good against spin.Zaman is a hack,imam is a player who can stick around for a while without any impact.

Rest are hacks or overrated tailenders.
Also pakistan lacks good specialist spinner.
 
1. No frontline spinner - zafar was missed
2. Key players underperforming
3. Bad captaincy
4. Not having another dynamic opener. People will bash me for this but it’s true. This team is Fahkar or bust. If he goes we have lost. Imam did okay, but he will never win you a tough game. This doesn’t mean we select a lunatic up top, but someone who can up hos scoring rate without much effort
 
Fakhar, Babar, Hasan, Shadab and Amir did not perform. If the heart of the team doesn't perform then what hope do you have?
 
The stars of the Champions Trophy have had to learn there's a downside to the attention you receive after such a major success - no sooner you reach the summit do other teams start plotting your demise. Every one of our CT performers failed as opposition teams did their homework against them. The key for the youngsters is to keep working on their game and learn from this experience.

Tactically you must question the thinking. A historically weak batting team like Pakistan cannot afford to be playing four specialist batsmen. Two of those specialist batsmen are Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam who went missing in this tournament with Fakhar having a poor UAE record, Imam-ul-Haq is young, whilst Asif Ali is unproven at international level.

All rounders like Sarfraz, Shadab and Nawaz simply do not contribute enough with the bat, so our batting hopes rested on a 36 year old all rounder in Shoaib Malik ! Minnow bashing papered over the cracks but our tour of NZ and now the Asia Cup has shown our batting cannot stand up to the top teams.

Not only were we a specialist batsman short but a specialist spinner short. Why pick 6 pacers in the UAE in a mid-Sep tournament ? I understand preparing for the 2019 WC but you also have to win the series in front of you. Specialist spinners are an asset in today's white ball formats even outside Asia, but we stubbornly refuse to pick one and persist with Shadab and Nawaz who are more suited to being support spinners.

Finally, the fielding has gone to pieces since Steve Rixon left. The dropped catches were an alarming reminder that our fielding progress remains fragile.
 
Team management either did not have the right bowling options or completely underestimated the need of good spinners on this pitch

There was too much expected of AMIR who could not deliver the goods (partly because of fatigue and the fast bowler graveyard pitches)

Usman Shinwari should have been dropped after the first India game when he was not able to get an inch of swing and seam and was bowling gun barrel straight looking completely ordinary and Junaid Khan who is a lot experienced on these pitches should have been brought in his place

The fielding was not up to the same mark unlike what was seen during the champions trophy and other tournaments after that (catches were dropped at critical junctures)

Fakhar Zaman completely lost his confidence coupled with bad luck, he needed one good innings to come out of this rut

Shadab Khan proved to be only handy against teams who have historically been weak against spin, he did not stand a chance against Asian teams who are much superior players of spin bowling

Sarfaraz’s decline as a batsman since taking over the captaincy reigns came to bite the team in the ...
 
Let’s analyse. The problem is that there are too many bits and pieces players in the team.

Imam- A minnow-basher who feasts on mediocre attacke. He does not have the skills nor the attitude to make it count against top sides.

Fakhar - An average player who will fail 8 out of 10 times if the opposition is not Zimbabwe or Scotland.

Asif Ali - Cannot afford to play a batsman who would, at best, average 25 with a strike rate of around 100 and who doesn’t ball. That is like playing Afridi as a batsman.

Malik - The only class player who has a good temperament and knows how to pace an innings.

Sarfaraz - Another bottler. Struggles to play accurate bowling and has a horrendous offside game.

Nawaz - A club-level cricketer. Simply not good enough for top-level cricket. Batting skills are on par with Chris Martin. A true definition of bit and pieces player.

Faheen - Probably the most innocuous bowler in Pakistan’s history. Brings in nothing with the bat. Another Chris Martin.

Shabad - He is riding on past glory. A below-average bowler who has no real swing. Another bits and pieces player.

Hasan Ali - A trundler with zero swing.

Amir - A non-performer for more than a year.
 
1) Sarfraz is a poor captain
2) Our Key player Amir was out of form
3) We have some nothing players that can only be utilized in highly specialized situations. Asif Ali, Nawaz are not players Pakistani team needs or can afford.

Amir has been in poor form since he returned. Key player? I think not.
 
1) I think we were not that bad with the bowl today but today His (Sarfaraz) captaincy was really bad. We should've gone for the kill when they were 12/3. He removed the slips and two catches went there it's simply criminal to remove the slips. :facepalm:

2) Fielding was really bad in the whole tournament as Steve Rixon said PCB is not handling people properly and good people are leaving. We can see the impact already we were doing great under him. And of course poor domestic structure not helping the cause either.

3) If we selected Shan Masood as an opener why he was not given chance over Fakhar? He was failing again and again. At least we could've played him today (against Bangladesh) like we selected Junaid as everyone else failed.

4) Overall team selection was really poor it's fine we're looking towards the WC but not paying attention to winning a tournament is criminal. Every team came with so many spinners and we went with Shadab & Nawaz :facepalm: we all know He (Nawaz) is useless and He just darts the ball.

5) We did not bowl well in the whole tournament. Amir not in form (bowled new ball with scrambled seam :facepalm: seriously). Hasan Ali was skidding the ball few months ago but now he isn't. Shadab was not 100%. Shaheen was the only one who looked like he was troubling the batsmen. Junaid just played one game so no idea how he would've performed. Faheem I personally felt bowled well against Afg & India but due to Nawaz we dropped Him as were looking for supposedly good spinner :facepalm:

6) Our batsmen doesn't have match awareness except what we saw today from Imam Ul Haq he pushed Asif Ali to play according to the situation and that was really good. We need more match awareness and not so casual attitude like Asif Ali has. Shadab Khan needs to work hard. Sarfaraz needs to sort out his batting otherwise neither he'll be able to bat nor it'll do any good for his captaincy. We need someone to teach our batters few shots to release pressure and I don't think Grant Flower has the potential to do it we need someone from the modern coaches nowadays in my opinion.
 
Sorry to chip in but too much T20 games screwed up the way of playing and expectations. In t20 every player seems to play for themself rather than as tandem players playing on the strength of your partner covering your partners weakness. In LOI’s players need to learn they can’t play an individual game rather group play. This they can learn not from PSL or other leagues but playing 50 over games over and over. Many Pakistanis have commented on our draw with Afghanistan yesterday. They said this is your performance with your best IPL players. But many Indians do recognize T20 greatness does not translate into ODI success. Pakistan team and fans seem not to recognize this. That is the reason our system forces youngsters to go through FC cricket and sending them to around the world to play in A teams. IPL or leagues are good for entertainment and making them secured financially but it will imho does not make them ATG’s are even good players.
 
only 2 out of 14 players performed. PCB did not organize games against competitive teams after CT and Inzi decided to send 6 pacers to UAE. All ignoring the fact that Pakistan's strength in UAE was always middle overs where Afridi, Hafeez or Imad would strangle the teams. Something should have been done after Fakhar failed in first 3 games. He should have played at no 3 or sit out against BAN.
 
only 2 out of 14 players performed. PCB did not organize games against competitive teams after CT and Inzi decided to send 6 pacers to UAE. All ignoring the fact that Pakistan's strength in UAE was always middle overs where Afridi, Hafeez or Imad would strangle the teams. Something should have been done after Fakhar failed in first 3 games. He should have played at no 3 or sit out against BAN.

Can't blame the PCB too much. FTP's are organized and signed in advance and the abscence of international cricket in Pakistan has been killing us for the last 10 years. We now have some really tough assignments coming up.
 
1) No world class specialist spinners. We relied on all rounders or part timers (shadab, haris, nawaz, malik, fakhar) who could not pick up any wickets in the middle overs or build any sort of pressure. In Asian conditions, not having a proper spinners (like ajmal) is a major disadvantage.

2) Fast bowlers did not look threatening. Guys like Bumrah bowl yorkers at will which is an asset on these types of pitches. Our guys either dont have the skill to do that consistently, or they choose not to out of fear of getting it wrong. Amir, who is supposed to be the spearhead of the bowling attack, isnt able to take wickets to save his life. If there are not wickets up front, it already puts us way behind.

3) Fakhar Zaman. He is essential to this team's batting. The whole batting line up until number 5 are accumulators. If Fakhar does not get us off to a good start, the rest of the batting lineup comes under pressure. Since Fakhar was out of form, this effected the team a lot.

4) Sarfraz. A captain who can not lead from the front inspires no confidence. On top of that he abuses players on global television. His mannerisms and actions are not good for morale.
 
1.) Lack of specialist spinners. India played two, Afghanistan played two, Pakistan played zero. We played Mohammad Nawaz (who isn't really much of a spinner), and Shadab Khan (who is very raw, and needed a specialist spinner to pair up with).
2.) Lack of a game plan and strategy. It seemed like our team did not know how they are meant to play in the UAE.
3.) The team took way too much pressure, and in reflected in the way they played.
4.) Poor fielding.
5.) Rubbish captaincy.
6.) Mohammad Amir bowled rubbish when he played, and he looked uninterested. Hasan did not bowl his usual threatening lines consistently enough, and Usman was average. Only Shaheen bowled well, and Junaid bowled great in the one game he played.
 
1) Team management didnt know best squad and best xi in th UAE conditions and on top of that batting order was still undecided till the last match. They havent batted with the same order in any match

2) Fielding was poor, Fakhar who never dropped a catch since his debut, dropped 3 catches alone in this tournament.

3) Looked like the team was not interested and were expecting this.
Fakhar didnt take review not once but twice when he was not out, Sarfaraz didnt have slips and changed the bowler whenever he was creating bit of pressure.

Something was odd, dont know if its something within the team dressing room or outside.
 
I have said from start our success depends a lot on Fakhar zaman.He was out of form meaning we struggled.
 
Refusal of the team management to face reality. I was astonished to read Arthur saying we will beat India in final before even playing BD and securing a olace in finals. That sense of false belief percolates down to players as well.

You cannot expect a CT repeat everytime - different conditions, other teams in good form too having learnt their lesson and done their homework.

Also a reality check for players and fans. For last 15 months, you have been seen as a WC favorite. For this tournament, it was as if you just need to turn up. Now expectations will get toned down and players will feel less pressure from media and fans.
 
Refusal of the team management to face reality. I was astonished to read Arthur saying we will beat India in final before even playing BD and securing a olace in finals. That sense of false belief percolates down to players as well.

You cannot expect a CT repeat everytime - different conditions, other teams in good form too having learnt their lesson and done their homework.

Also a reality check for players and fans. For last 15 months, you have been seen as a WC favorite. For this tournament, it was as if you just need to turn up. Now expectations will get toned down and players will feel less pressure from media and fans.

Our Pakistani players don't have the work ethic of other players. Always regress after initial period of success.
 
Refusal of the team management to face reality. I was astonished to read Arthur saying we will beat India in final before even playing BD and securing a olace in finals. That sense of false belief percolates down to players as well.

This was a fake quote that was posted on here.
 
To be really frank the Pakistan management has been reluctant to play more than one spinner in any team. This is a strange scenario. Pakistan have won all their Tests in UAE with spinners such as Yasir Shah, Saeed Ajmal. The ODI team having just one spinner and that too inexperienced Shadab is the reason Pakistan have struggled in UAE in recent times. I cannot believe that Sarfaraz did not put his foot down and told Arthur that he knows UAE and we cannot go without at least 3 specialist spinners in the squad.
 
The lack of a second spinner was the big one. While other teams were able to pin the batsmen down in the middle overs, our batsmen were coming and going from the pavilion due to some tight spin bowling. Shadab is decent as a Limited Overs spinner and has the potential to become a great bowler; genuinely believe he will be great asset over the next few years. However, I don't think Nawaz cuts it as a genuine second spinner on UAE pitches-or at least judging by the skills he demonstrated in this tournament. Don't know a replacement but we should either try one of the youngsters from PSL or we should take a risk and even try Yasir.

With Fakhar and Imam at the top, we should have gotten off to flying starts with Fakhar playing aggressive strokes and Imam ticking the board over. Even if Fakhar didn't fire, Imam and the middle order should have continued to rotate the strike and then fire towards the end. It seemed as though no one played their natural game. The collapse in that first match against India reminded me of the "old" Pakistan team. There was no game plan, no strike rotation. Just "getting settled" and allowing the pressure to build and then playing weird shots to get out.

Mickey or someone should constantly show our middle order highlights of Mushfiqur's innings last night. The way he absorbed the pressure, and then targeted the loose bowling as well as taking few calculated risks to slowly ease off the pressure, then turn the tables once his team was in a better position was just awesome (just couldn't enjoy it as it was against Pakistan:dw).

The bowling wasn't too good but it was evident a lot of guys were out of form but Junaid showed he still has some fight in him while Shaheen should be made the new automatic selection in the bowling department.

What lost us the game last night was a lack of aggressive captaincy. At 12-3 Bangladesh were reeling, Sarfraz should have taken the cover fielder and put him at second slip. It's a bit of a red ball tactic but it may have worked. Also, when the opposition is 20 or 30 with 3 down once the powerplay ends, you don't put all four fielders out on the fence. Instead, he should have placed a slip in too. He was following a general formula which stated that he should bowl his strike bowlers for the first 8-10 overs, bowl spinners and then bowl his strike bowlers for the last 10. He should have played to the situation and allowed Hasan to attack as soon as he came on. For the next few games, Sarfraz should stay in the team but should be relieved of captaincy, which should go to Malik.

Going forward, we need to get Fakhar and Imam to both play their natural game. The middle order should learn to rotate the strike and should develop the ability to absorb the pressure and slowly get into a position from where they can fire-similar to what Mushfiqur does.

Our bowling just needs another good spinner and game plans.

Most of the players are fine...It's all in the mind. Let's back the boys for the upcoming series'.
 
In no particular order:

1. Poor captaincy. We just don't seem to put pressure on opposing teams.
2. Lack of mental strength by our batsmen. We play too many dumb shots and we just don't rotate the strike often enough.
3. Some players in poor form.
4. Lack of creativity by our bowlers. We seemed to have adopted a mentality of bowling either short or wide resulting in us gifting runs to the opposing teams.
5. Poor fielding. We just can't keep dropping simple catches.
6. Complacency. Just because we won the CT, we seem to think we're invincible.
7. As a side we have become too predictable in how we play (one dimensional).
 
Completely agree that bad captaincy & team selection coupled with the fact that the team had become overconfident & complacent after the CT win were the main factors for this abysmal performance.

1. Sarfaraz doesn’t handle pressure well & is passive aggressive with his own team-mates - i think that is the reason that the guys were trying too hard & playing too defensively after the first game loss against India. Coupled with his inane field placement & bowling changes, he definitely was the biggest misfire of the tournament.

2. Fakhar Zaman has been found out. He definitely needs to vastly improve his technique before the world cup.

3. Over-confidence regarding the performance of bowlers like Aamir, Hassan, Shadab etc. Considering Aamir picks & chooses which games he plays these days, he definitely relies on his pre-2010 reputation to bend the team to his will without any performance to back it up.

4. Too many T20 (aka bits & pieces players) in the lower middle order who are not capable of rebuilding an innnings.

5. Bench strength of pakistan is not better than the tried tested failures in the previous team. PCB doesnt learn from past mistakes!
 
Captaincy was very poor, tullaybaaz captaincy, don't think just pray then panic, a captain cannot have this attitude, that spreads to the entire team.

Over confidence then no confidence. Shadab, Hasan, Fakhar all looked shadows of themselves from last year.

Poor planning, batting first against India, choosing fast bowlers thinking you've become Australia of 00s.
 
Over reliant on Fakhar who I have said before is NOT a proper batsman. He is at best a T20 opener, awful technique and more like tape ball tuller.

Captaincy was poor infact very poor

Team selection was poor infact very poor, Shadab ( on his way to become another Umer Akmal) . Too much hype with not much substance. Nawaz will not make Grade 1 let alone international in Australia. Not a batsman neither a bowel, good for nothing player. Asif ?? I mean do you really need a slogger to be called a Batsman ?? he needs to spend couple of years in domestic ,learn temperament and then come back. Not selecting Junaid Khan the whole tournament was criminal . Amir should be rested / dropped and made to play domestic cricket before coming back to the side ( he is not your best bowler , get over it).

The only good thing happened to Pakistan cricket in this asia cup was the Debut of Shaheen shah Afridi.
 
We have to admit that the resources available to us aren't exactly the best when compared to other top teams. In such a situation the most important things are

1) Have a clear game plan and stick to it
2) Play to your strengths
3) Use roles, tactics and conditions to reduce your skill disadvantage if possible

We saw how the Afghans did all three of those things and proved to be the best in the tournament despite their limited resources. Their game plan was to set up decent targets of around 225-250 and then use their strength - their spinners. Barring Shahzad, each of their batsman knew what they were aiming for (225-250) and played accordingly. In the last game, given the conditions the captain cannily extracted 6 overs out of his part time spinners instead of persisting with his main bowler. The field placements were good and aimed at helping the main spinners get wickets and others like Nabi to hold the scoring. Also each player seemed to know his role. Rashid and Mujeeb were wicket takers, Nabi was to do a holding job, etc.

Contrast this with Pakistan and you will see we had no set plan, no tactics. We were just hoping to win based on the false belief that we are better than the rest. We won the toss twice and elected to bat first both times (both against India). The way we batted I think we were targeting 275 both times. But we had no clue as to how to get there. In the first game every one threw their wickets playing stupid shots. In the second, Sarfaraz strangled the scoring rate with his inability to take singles. Wouldn't we have been better off following the Afghan strategy of aiming for 250. For that we could've used Haris at 4 and Malik at 5 and held back Sarfaraz and Asif for the last 10. Instead Sarfaraz shuttled himself all over the batting order, without any clearly defined role or goal. He batted at 4,5 and 6 in the process also disturbing the order of other batsmen.

I presume the think tank had decided that our strength was our pace bowling which is why we packed 6 pacers in the squad. But if that was the case then why were those pacers not given aggressive fields to help them take wickets? What was the role of the different bowlers? Was Nawaz a wicket taker or supposed to contain? Why was Faheem not given more matches? What was the overall bowling plan? The way Sarfaraz handled his bowling and fielding I can only assume he was using his T20 tactics here with an aim to try and contain the opposition without taking wickets. Such an approach might work against minnows but against a top team like India you just cant win without taking wickets.

So overall, I don't believe this loss had much to do with bad bowling, fielding or batting. It was a failure of planning, captaincy and inspiration more than anything else. The Pakistan team was a headless chicken with no one having any clear role in the overall effort. Also, this failure was a result of overconfidence. We went out with the belief that we were the best and just had to show up to win it. And the superior and better prepared teams rightly put us in our place.
 
Inexperienced players who have been overhyped based on performances against minnows, hence the confusion regarding their own abilities.

Imploding under pressure against India,unable to cope with pressure of expectations(clearly evident as they drop the easiest of catches)

A non-performing captain whose on-field behaviour is terrible

Lower-order hitters lack improvisation.

Batsmen have limitations.Babar Imam sarfraz shadab Nawaz can be accumulators but cant hit big when situation demands.

Not playing specialist spinners in UAE is criminal
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] - Looking forward to reading your in-depth analysis on yesterday's match, especially Sarfaraz's captaincy blunders vs Mashrafe's inspiring tactics.
 
Lack of quality spinners and regular change of team. You cant play 3 out and out fast bowlers one must be able to bat! Fahim ashraf should play as 3rd fast bowler. You cant have Babar and Imam batting in top 3 and then Sarfraz as both are very similar players if fakhar fails the team goes no where. Players are there but the combination and selection of the squad was wrong.
 
- Overconfident, especially after beating minnows team in a row (including depleted Australia)
- Over-reliant on Fakhar
- Lack of a specialist spinner
- Captaincy and his form
- On and Off field pressure on players (management & media)
- The pressure of losing the spot in playing 11
 
Lost twice to a team significantly better than us.

Choked in a do or die game against a team equally as good as you in these conditions.

Batting is woeful.

Captain is out of form.

Spinners were underwhelming.

Most impact-full batsman didn't put a single score of significance.
 
ok guys where do youfeel it went wrong for Pakistan?

Selection, players out of form, batting order, poor bowling, abysmal fielding, poor captaincy or something else?

Beat Hong Kong the weakest team of the tournament
Hammered by India by 8 wickets
Scraped past Afghanistan by 3 wickets
Thrashed by India by 9 wickets
Easily beaten by Bangladesh by 37 runs
....as an indian take my comment for what its worth ... without hafeez and azhar ali in your line up . you guys are playing at your level of incompetence
 
Same old problems.Poor Batting and fielding.And that would have rubbed on to your bowling which normally is pretty decent.But then if your fielders keep on dropping dollies on these pattas with nothing for bowlers, they will get demoralized.
 
Pakistan need to increase its batting depth. Shadab Khan is a tailender and he is batting at 6 is a testimony of everything wrong with Pak cricket. Pak must play 7 batsman and 4 bowlers with Malik/Hafeez as part timers. You win an LOI game with batting...and Pak has a very weak one.

Azhar
Fakhar
Imam
Babar
Malik
Hafeez
Sarfraz

Play this line up
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] - Looking forward to reading your in-depth analysis on yesterday's match, especially Sarfaraz's captaincy blunders vs Mashrafe's inspiring tactics.

What went wrong is arrogance - PAK was planning for final before reaching there, while they were playing against an inspired side that were not ready to leave it without a fight. In short, playing too many shallow cricket both at domestics & international front has made PAK players mentally weak - you challenge them they'll falter. If that 4th wicket was down say for 56, I can safely say, PAK might have started chasing before lunch.

I always say, PAK players play cricket in domestics which are actually lower quality & less competitive than Lancashire league. In past, against BD team, same situation, you would have seen Mushi playing a half cooked shot and make it 120/5 - it would have ended there. Our boys are catching up in the mental aspect of the game - defended a tight game against AFGs, then recover from such position.

Batting is more technical - along with guts/temperament you need technique as well - looking at any PAK batsman, may be apart from Babar sometimes, you'll never feel the comfort that they are in command - almost like always risking to lose a wicket or two - hence against better teams, you'll hardly see a 100+ partnership from PAK. That's not the case for BD batsmen - at least 3 of them; once set Tamim, Mushi & Mahmudullah are quite reliable - PAK just expected that like their batsmen one of the BD batsmen will throw the wicket - they was just going through the motion, until it was too late - Mithun's lack of game awareness and an absolute beauty from Afridi stopped us at 240, instead of 280, from a start of 12/3.

Regarding Sarfraz's Captaincy, I think guy has grown up playing club cricket with buddies, where he must have been a hero from junior age, which has made him quite a good ring leader - very good when chips are up - charming, cheering players, keeping things in control .... but guy is tactical bot, doesn't have much clue what to do when chips are down. Same thing happened yesterday - his bowlers gave a dream start and things were smooth - 2 of the 3 dismissals were absolute pitch of a ball, didn't need any input from Captain .... then when he found that things are getting a bit bumpy, he had absolutely no clue. In general the first sign of Captain losing plot is when he starts to follow the game & asks bowlers what to do, rather than sharing his instructions and then asking for bowler's view.

Mashrafee is tactically good, playing for 15 years now and he has got some of the best coaches around to guide him. In BPL as well he has won 2-3 titles with different set of players in different team. But, yesterday I think what worked is that team's moral & confidence was high - they believed in themselves after such an early escape. I have never seen BD team fielding that good, but more importantly they hold on to catches when it mattered. Business usual, you would have seen Rubel dropping that one & Fakhar smashing 36 in no time within PP bringing asking down to 4 level.

Mash has personality, which Sarfraz doesn't have - players feel ownership in field when they make a mistake under Mash & try to improve ... PAK players are scared of making mistake under Sarfraz (which they might not say openly, I have seen enough to understand body language), this doesn't help team when they are under pressure. Above all, Mash leads from the front within his limited capacity - batted well to put something against IND from 104/7, then took responsibility of bowling in death against AFGs, when he could have easily avoided the risk of losing the game - PAK is trying to accommodate Sarfraz in batting line up and then keeping him comfortable without selecting a back-up WK, or appointing a Deputy. When you need to protect your Captain, how he is going to lead from the front?

On game, Mustafiz bowled really well which helped - he was brought for early wicket and went for the kill, then helped by PAK sending a dummy at 4. Opening with Miraz probably isn't that much of a rocket science as anyone would do so when two lefti in batting and one is a blunt slogger. Taking pace out of ball always works in UAE, more so against a stone waller & a bottom hand butcher. From 18/3, on that wicket - you have to play really, really poor not to defend 240; particularly against PAK, who I am sure would have struggled against HK or Nepal as well to chase that target from 18/3. Had Liton not dropped that sitter, PAK won't have crossed 170.

I wrote few days back that BD team is going through a transition. Hathura being a fantastic coach for us didn't end it well. The way he left for SRL wasn't professional at all & then that Cobra taunt was disgusting from him. He should have realized that, like BD team, success with us also made him what he is today - how many knew Hathurasinghe before BD stint? For almost a year, we had several changes in coach, manager, technical coaches and Captains - finally the back room is settled with long term appointments of key people - Head Coach, batting, pace/spin bowling, fielding coaches, trainer and other support staffs. Hathura actually took 3-4 support staffs with him at his departure and we were at a mess - Walshi, Jorgensen, Champak, Khaled Mahmud ... were serving as make shifts. It was only a matter of time that team should improve from it's rock bottom state of losing 3-0 to AFGs.
 
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