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How depressing that **** like this still goes on in this day and age.


2 more killed in clashes, Bengal on the edge

KOLKATA: At least two people died and an unspecified number, including police personnel, were injured on Monday as the administration struggled to quell violence in the wake of Ram Navami processions across West Bengal.

West Bengal CM Mamata Banerjee asked police to revoke permission for processions and vowed action against the perpetrators of violence.

“Did Lord Ram fight Ravan with swords? It doesn’t matter to me whether a Hindu or a Muslim is the victim of violence. The victim, to me, is a human being. These people have no right to enter localities of other communities, spreading panic with firearms and swords. They are maligning the image of Ram,” she said, adding: “It goes against our culture.” The Bengal CM, without naming BJP, referred to a party that was “thinking of dominating the country with this sort of religion”.

State DGP Surajit Kar Purakayastha informed Banerjee that police had gathered video clips and other evidence of people carrying dangerous weapons in Ram Navami rallies that would enable them to take strong action under the Arms Act.

Monday’s deaths in Raniganj and Kakinara followed one in Purulia on Sunday. “No more rallies from today, there is no permission for rallies,” Banerjee said on Monday. She sounded a warning against the “politics of religion”. “Did Ram ever ask his followers to carry pistols?” the CM asked. Banerjee ordered “all superintendents of police and other police officers” present at the meeting “to go back to their areas and take charge”.

The West Bengal Commission for Protection of Child Rights summoned two Purulia Bajrang Dal activists for handing over arms to children and getting them to join Sunday’s rally, from where the violence started.

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/2-...ngal-on-the-edge/amp_articleshow/63473107.cms
 
Unfortunate, and good decision religious rallies should be banned, no religion should be propagated outside the religious places anymore.
End promotion of religion and religious activities.
 
I guess when you have a billion people you are bound to have more than a few loonies - its just the law of averages.
 
What a bunch of idiots fighting over their imaginary Gods.
If this goes on and it will I'm certain of it, We will always remain a third world country no matter how much FDI pours in from outside.
 
Unfortunate, and good decision religious rallies should be banned, no religion should be propagated outside the religious places anymore.
End promotion of religion and religious activities.

I dont if you have witnessed it or not but of late I have seen idiot Hindu youths holding rallies on even small Jayantis.

It's mostly those losers who can't even talk to women properly irl and thus are left alone in their lives and opt for this sh!t to pass the time.

The solution is simple. Put a ban on all these stupid rallies, close down all the stone age madarasas esp in UP, Bihar and Bengal. Freedom of speech be damned. Laaton k bhoot baato se nahin mante.
 
Religion is a proven curse for South Asia. Things will stay the same until the region enters a semi-developed phase.
 
Maybe Indians need to focus less on Hafiz Saeeds in Pakistan and look at reining in the Hindutva lunatics who seem to be given free licence to stir up violence in India itself. This isn't a point scoring excercise, I think both countries should have these militant organisations under control.
 
This is just a little trailer of the bigger riots that are coming.
 
Maybe Indians need to focus less on Hafiz Saeeds in Pakistan and look at reining in the Hindutva lunatics who seem to be given free licence to stir up violence in India itself. This isn't a point scoring excercise, I think both countries should have these militant organisations under control.

You say this isn't a point scoring exercise but then go on and take your usual pot shots. I haven nothing but disgust for these so-called Hindu defenders, who don't even know what Hinduism is really about - I would favor harsh punishments for them. But you don't find any of them going across borders into other countries and killing people. Please stop with the FALSE EQUIVALENCES that you Pakistanis love to draw.

Yes, Hindutva lunatics exist in India, are a problem that should be addressed head on. But its like comparing a band-aid scratch to a gunshot wound, if you compare them to Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar etc.
 
Maybe Indians need to focus less on Hafiz Saeeds in Pakistan and look at reining in the Hindutva lunatics who seem to be given free licence to stir up violence in India itself. This isn't a point scoring excercise, I think both countries should have these militant organisations under control.

Bhai both groups are to be blamed here. The issue isn't black and white as it seems to appear to the outsiders.
Religion in it's entirety should be banned from the public sphere in India.
Both Hindutva fundamentalists and Radical Jihadists are two sides of a same coin. No one is a saint here.
 
You say this isn't a point scoring exercise but then go on and take your usual pot shots. I haven nothing but disgust for these so-called Hindu defenders, who don't even know what Hinduism is really about - I would favor harsh punishments for them. But you don't find any of them going across borders into other countries and killing people. Please stop with the FALSE EQUIVALENCES that you Pakistanis love to draw.

Yes, Hindutva lunatics exist in India, are a problem that should be addressed head on. But its like comparing a band-aid scratch to a gunshot wound, if you compare them to Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar etc.

That is the usual rubbish we get from apologists, but it's not much use to those who are living inside the borders is it? You might want to check the thread topic and ponder on your reply as to how relevant it is.
 
Bhai both groups are to be blamed here. The issue isn't black and white as it seems to appear to the outsiders.
Religion in it's entirety should be banned from the public sphere in India.
Both Hindutva fundamentalists and Radical Jihadists are two sides of a same coin. No one is a saint here.

I don't know who is to blame, neither do I want to pin the blame on any side, but clearly there is a problem when you get large religious processions and it's no surprise when they get out of hand.
 
That is the usual rubbish we get from apologists, but it's not much use to those who are living inside the borders is it? You might want to check the thread topic and ponder on your reply as to how relevant it is.

Please don't insult me personally by calling me an apologist for religious fanatics. You have no right or basis for that.

I have NEVER defended, justified or even tolerated any sort of violence, or even verbal hate, carried out in the name of my faith. If anything, I would be doubly harsh on those of my faith, and my country for doing so.
 
Bhai both groups are to be blamed here. The issue isn't black and white as it seems to appear to the outsiders.
Religion in it's entirety should be banned from the public sphere in India.
Both Hindutva fundamentalists and Radical Jihadists are two sides of a same coin. No one is a saint here.

Very true. Fundamentalists of either stripe are pathetic gutless hatemongers and should be treated as such.
 
Please don't insult me personally by calling me an apologist for religious fanatics. You have no right or basis for that.

I have NEVER defended, justified or even tolerated any sort of violence, or even verbal hate, carried out in the name of my faith. If anything, I would be doubly harsh on those of my faith, and my country for doing so.

I didn't insult you personally, I said that's the usual rubbish you get from apologists. And it is.
 
There should be a carpet ban on all public displays of religion in India.

No more processions, loud speakers or any form of public display of any religious symbol. All religious stuff should happen behind closed doors between 4 walls.

2 Indians are killed by Indians and this is shameful for the entire nation.
 
I didn't insult you personally, I said that's the usual rubbish you get from apologists. And it is.

And this thread is the usual drivel we see from pakistanis, trying to over-exaggerate the issue in India without having any proper understanding of the facts.
 
There should be a carpet ban on all public displays of religion in India.

No more processions, loud speakers or any form of public display of any religious symbol. All religious stuff should happen behind closed doors between 4 walls.

2 Indians are killed by Indians and this is shameful for the entire nation.

THat's unrealistic and hard to implement. But I fully agree that no religion needs any kind of display of fake "pride" or superiority nonsense. Such morons ruin it for the rest of the 99% of civilized people.

Communal group celebrations are a big part of expressing faith and religion in our part of the world. Think of Muharram, or Holi, or Ganpati Festivals in Bombay. But it doesn't need to stoop to such nonsense. Weapons etc?? That's just ********. Doesn't belong and should be outlawed.
 
Religion is a proven curse for South Asia. Things will stay the same until the region enters a semi-developed phase.

we fought over something else yesterday , today its religion and I bet tomorrow we will have something to kill each other over .
 
A lot of indians on here opposd religion but still practice the caste system, that makes no sense to me.
 
A lot of indians on here opposd religion but still practice the caste system, that makes no sense to me.

Caste system is more of a cultural practice now a days. Besides other than me, I dont think any Indian here has ever approved of it.
 
A lot of indians on here opposd religion but still practice the caste system, that makes no sense to me.

Caste is tribal mentality which needs to go away just like religion.

Both are evil in my opinion. They beth create Us vs Them mentality and both need to go.

Both can be practiced privately if individuals or families prefer. But outward display of caste or religion should be banned.
 
Caste is tribal mentality which needs to go away just like religion.

Both are evil in my opinion. They beth create Us vs Them mentality and both need to go.

Both can be practiced privately if individuals or families prefer. But outward display of caste or religion should be banned.

Castiesm is like racism, practicing it privately is disgusting and tolerating it should be illegal. Indians need to let go of the caste and the obsession with fair skin.
 
Caste system is more of a cultural practice now a days. Besides other than me, I dont think any Indian here has ever approved of it.

Lmao "not approved of it", if you only marry within your caste and are another one the same level then you are in facr practising it.
 
Castiesm is like racism, practicing it privately is disgusting and tolerating it should be illegal. Indians need to let go of the caste and the obsession with fair skin.

Casteism is racism? :facepalm:

Casteism is a discriminatory system. Nothing to do with race. A dark skinned upper caste guy can discriminate against a fair skinned lower caste person. This is not a black or white issue like you see in the West.

Caste has a deep rooted tribal mentality associated with it.
 
Lmao "not approved of it", if you only marry within your caste and are another one the same level then you are in facr practising it.

Well I for one won't certainly marry outside my caste due to various reasons but I think other Indian posters here are pretty liberal in that regatd. I might be wrong though but that's the impression one generally get.
Besides even in Pakistan, many people opt out to marry within their biradari which is nothing but an offshoot of caste system. That's what I meant when I said it's more of a cultural practice rather than a religious one.
 
Lmao "not approved of it", if you only marry within your caste and are another one the same level then you are in facr practising it.

You cannot run behind a girl and argue with her dad if the girl is not willing to marry you. :yk
 
That's true as well. Most arranged marriages are like that only. One can't just brand someone racist for that.

I did not have to run behind any girl, I did not have to waste any money in taking her out to restaurants, I did not have to own a bike or car.

Just by word of mouth or through matrimonial website, the complex part of marriage was taken care of.

Now how you adjust after marriage is a completely different beast.
 
And this thread is the usual drivel we see from pakistanis, trying to over-exaggerate the issue in India without having any proper understanding of the facts.

oh man, the irony. This is SO rich coming from Indians...
 
Conflicts that arise over religious/social issues are most likely caused by political/economic circumstances.
 
Lmao "not approved of it", if you only marry within your caste and are another one the same level then you are in facr practising it.

Don't be a hypocrite mate, in that logic if you marrying within religion you are practicing religious discrimination.
 
we fought over something else yesterday , today its religion and I bet tomorrow we will have something to kill each other over .

Millions died of plague in the 18th century, hundreds of thousands die of cancer today, and thousands more will die of something in future. So? Should we abandon all the Cancer research today just because something new will kill people in future?

We find solutions to problems as they come, and for the last 100 years, religion has been cancerous to our society. Something unknown killing people in future shouldn't distract us from treating what ails us today.
 
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Nothing new. There is always religious tension in India no matter how much their people try to paint a good and positive picture. The scary thing is that most such cases go unreported.
 
Millions died of plague in the 18th century, hundreds of thousands die of cancer today, and thousands more will die of something in future. So? Should we abandon all the Cancer research today just because something new will kill people in future?

We find solutions to problems as they come, and for the last 100 years, religion has been cancerous to our society. Something unknown killing people in future shouldn't distract us from treating what ails us today.

All am saying is , religion is just an excuse and we will keep fighting/killing over other things if not for religion . The fight cound be over , my self ,my family , my street , my city , my state , my country , my language , my race , my colour , my religion ..my opinion ;)
 
Nothing new. There is always religious tension in India no matter how much their people try to paint a good and positive picture. The scary thing is that most such cases go unreported.

you mean they only get reported to you ?
 
Please don't insult me personally by calling me an apologist for religious fanatics. You have no right or basis for that.

I have NEVER defended, justified or even tolerated any sort of violence, or even verbal hate, carried out in the name of my faith. If anything, I would be doubly harsh on those of my faith, and my country for doing so.

Yes, Hindutva lunatics exist in India, are a problem that should be addressed head on. But its like comparing a band-aid scratch to a gunshot wound, if you compare them to Hafiz Saeed, Masood Azhar etc.

I would think calling hackings and lynchings carried out by Hindutva fanatics as 'band-aid scratches' is pretty much a exhibition of being an apologist for them...
 
No. They get reported by your media on a daily basis. Either Indian's ignore it or you don't know where to look. This happened earlier on today.


but this is reported in mainstream news channel ? thats not what you where claiming earlier
 
It’s shameful but it is how it is.. Can’t do anything about it the people here are idiots who get manipulated and have latched onto some false bravado..


These thins will continue to happen one can only hope and pray they don’t happen to them.
 
but this is reported in mainstream news channel ? thats not what you where claiming earlier

What I said was that many incidents go unreported and they do. Surely it's impossible to report every incident.
 
why there is a Bengal in India when there is already a country Bengladesh? Bengal of India should become part of Bengladesh to keep things simple.

If simpletons cannot understand the geography of the region that isn't the fault of the cartographers.
 
Meanwhile we now have violence in Rajasthan.

AT LEAST eight people were reported injured and several shops and vehicles were set on fire in Jaitaran town of Rajasthan’s Pali district on Saturday afternoon after some people allegedly shouted inflammatory slogans outside a mosque when members of the Hindu community were taking a procession in the area on the occasion of Hanuman Jayanti.

According to some reports, stones were allegedly thrown at the procession.

“Members of one community were taking out a procession, and preliminary reports suggest that some people allegedly started chanting inflammatory slogans outside a mosque. This resulted in stone-pelting by people from another community,” Additional DGP (law and order) N R K Reddy said.

“The miscreants burnt around 20 or 25 shops and set fire to a bus and a motorcycle. There were some 1,000 or 1,500 people who were involved in the clashes,” Reddy said.

Reddy said eight people have been injured, including policemen. “Two of the injured have been referred to Jodhpur. At this point, we are driving the protesters to their homes to control the situation,” Reddy said. Police officials said that violence was reported from areas near Jaitaran bus stand and spots such as Medta Road and Naya bus stand.

“Internet services have been suspended and limited curfew has been imposed in sensitive areas. The situation in Jaitaran is under control at present,” Pali District Collector Sudhir Kumar Sharma told The Sunday Express.

Section 144 has been imposed in the district after the violence and police officials said that separate teams have been deployed to arrest those involved in the violence.

Officials said that extra police force is being deployed in the district and areas where violence took place. “Two companies of Rajasthan Armed Constabulary, along with around 150 police personnel, have been sent to the district,” Reddy said.

“We have been talking to some senior persons from both sides to douse the tension and ensure peace,” PTI quoted District Collector Sharma.

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/on-hanuman-jayanti-arson-clashes-in-rajasthan-town-5118872/
 
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