Australia v South Africa | 1st Test - Day 2 | Perth | 18/12/08

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Pitch might be faster today (radio). Tony Greig says not a fast pitch but chances for cracks to open up on Day 4 maybe and then ball will move around
 
We need to get Smith early lest he start taking out five years of defeats on us.
 
I remember RP singh frustrated at Perth for the last wicket with bat. Something like that is going on
 
This is the most demoralizing that can happen to Saffers. They are crisply driving and flicking the ball.
 
Ntini deserves his 4 wickets - respect.

The talk has been that he is fading but he was very good in this innings.

Steyn a bit disappointing, so too Morkel.

Harris good, Kallis generously threw pies to twice get us back in the game.

This pitch is FLAT
 
Random Aussie said:
Ntini deserves his 4 wickets - respect.

The talk has been that he is fading but he was very good in this innings.

Steyn a bit disappointing, so too Morkel.

Harris good, Kallis generously threw pies to twice get us back in the game.

This pitch is FLAT

Steyn came from a minor injury so i believe thats he was not that great today so hopefully will do better in second innings but kallis did bad loll
 
Neither team has an outstanding spinner. So this might end in draw. Beautiful surface to bat on.
 
IronMan2009 said:
Neither team has an outstanding spinner. So this might end in draw. Beautiful surface to bat on.
All i want is that Amla plays really good and get man of the match award InshAllah
 
IronMan2009 said:
Neither team has an outstanding spinner. So this might end in draw. Beautiful surface to bat on.

Our spinner averages 12 wickets a match :batman:
 
M Johnson bowling fast in his first over. I think all balls were 145 and over high was 148
 
it is strange. this 151.2 by MJ looked slower than then bouncer a ball earlier which was 145
 
Poor bowling from South Africa bowlers in Day 1, but poor bowling starts from Australia bowlers at the moment. They are bowling poor deliveries but SA batsmen could take advantage of those poor deliveries
 
SA is wasting lot of half volleys. boy won't those disappear if it were to be Sehwag.
 
IronMan2009 said:
SA is wasting lot of half volleys. boy won't those disappear if it were to be Sehwag.

Yawn the entire city of Perth would be reduced to rubble by the mighty Indian team we know......
 
Random Aussie said:
Yawn the entire city of Perth would be reduced to rubble by the mighty Indian team we know......

?? I said Sehwag not entire Indian team. Sehwag is not entire Indian team.
 
Slow start by saffers. Maybe trying to play away the danger of the new ball.
 
saffer said:
Slow start by saffers. Maybe trying to play away the danger of the new ball.


There is no danger there. Nothing is happening. First time Brett Lee is hitting the length to suit this surface.
 
Horrible shot lol Man Johnson couldn't believe that wide ball fetched him a wicket.
 
This is what happens when you try to "see new ball off" on a flat track. You waste so many ball and pick a wrong ball to play shot.
 
McKenzie! what an idoit! SA should play a little more attacking shots!
 
Gosh, the South African batting line up barring Amla has to be the dreariest in the world by some distance.

That being said though, good timing shown by Amla.
 
IronMan2009 said:
?? I said Sehwag not entire Indian team. Sehwag is not entire Indian team.

Getting tired of hearing about how Indian player would do this, Indian bowler would do that.

Last time on these pitches India lost the series so the advice is not really useful is it?
 
Random Aussie said:
Getting tired of hearing about how Indian player would do this, Indian bowler would do that.

Last time on these pitches India lost the series so the advice is not really useful is it?


Okay for your satisfaction. jayasuriya would have creamed those balls. I am talking about any opener who doesn't waste those half volleys. Sehwag is the first that came to my mind.
 
^yes that was an awesome over! South Africa playing very negative cricket! I think Australia will take the lead in the 1st innings! Seriously SA need to play more attacking cricket!
 
Random Aussie said:
AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY LOST THE BLOODY SERIES

*Ohmmm....cool blue water......ohmmm*

After that India kicked AUstralian ass 2-0 :p. Till you meet us next time We own you :)
 
RA,
You seem to have a fixated opinion about Indian cricket team based on their fans. That is highly immature. See i can also downplay your team's performance against SA. Don't i appreciate your players regardless.
 
IronMan2009 said:
RA,
You seem to have a fixated opinion about Indian cricket team based on their fans. That is highly immature. See i can also downplay your team's performance against SA. Don't i appreciate your players regardless.

Says a bloke who says India own Australia because India beat Australia at home.

Ignoring that Australia beat India at home.

While cheerleaders continue posting rubbish such as this I will continue to hate on Indian cricket.

Some nice turn by Krejza in the last over.

It would seem MJ is the quickest bowler currently playing international cricket.......
 
saffer said:
Slow start by saffers. Maybe trying to play away the danger of the new ball.
What danger?

Why does Krezja have figures of 3-0-4-0? Swing? Seam movement? An opener meeting spin only has to mean one thing :afridi

The batting is so devoid of any sort of intent. Even if SA win the match or the series it'll be despite the batting and never because of it.
 
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You can continue hating Indian cricket :) No problemo. I'll continue to enjoy good cricket regardless of who plays. After all they are not the one who is posting in forums.
 
Random Aussie said:
Says a bloke who says India own Australia because India beat Australia at home.

Ignoring that Australia beat India at home.

While cheerleaders continue posting rubbish such as this I will continue to hate on Indian cricket.

Some nice turn by Krejza in the last over.

It would seem MJ is the quickest bowler currently playing international cricket.......


Morkel is up there aswell, hit very close to 150kmh early in his spell yesterday.
 
Jamal said:
Morkel is up there aswell, hit very close to 150kmh early in his spell yesterday.

Yep but I would suggest MJ is more consistent pace wise.

We are not really in an era of express quicks are we?
 
saffer said:
Anyone got a link ? I can't find a thing.
Do you want some tranquilizer pills? I'm sure you wont be able to tell the difference.
 
IronMan2009 said:
I think Malinga, Akhtar are the quickest around.

Malinga is not that quick, he was out in OZ last summer. 140 max in these conditions. He is very awkward though because of the action.

Akhtar is probably the quickest still but I don't think he really qualifies as a current international bowler.

Tait is probably the quickest actually playing but I don't consider him a current international bowler either.
 
Random Aussie said:
Yep but I would suggest MJ is more consistent pace wise.

We are not really in an era of express quicks are we?

Yeah, but not calling MJ express is a bit harsh. Akhtar the Walrus hit 145+ while carrying an added 20kgs, so I think he is still the quickest in the world, on his day.
 
f.b.m said:
What danger?

Why does Krezja have figures of 3-0-4-0? Swing? Seam movement? An opener meeting a spin only has to mean one thing :afridi

The batting is so devoid of any sort of intent. Even if SA win the match or the series it'll be despite the batting and never because of it.


hasn't been inspiring thus far...too careful. I hope they play more shots after lunch...Smith is a pretty quick scorer.

Still waiting for a link if someone can help me out.
 
Jamal said:
Yeah, but not calling MJ express is a bit harsh. Akhtar the Walrus hit 145+ while carrying an added 20kgs, so I think he is still the quickest in the world, on his day.

That fact alone scares me of what he could do if he was fit again.... he would be crossing 150-52 KPH with ease at the beginning of his spells...
 
I think Malinga clocked around 148 during CB series in one of the match against India.
But i agree MJ can sustain his pace for a long time. But he can go upto 150 . Steyn is quick as well. Btw Flintoff was bowling a good spell in the first Test. He clocked around 145.
As punter said Flintoff hits the bat harder than others. You have to also factor in how much pace the ball loses after it hits the deck.
 
saffer said:
hasn't been inspiring thus far...too careful. I hope they play more shots after lunch...Smith is a pretty quick scorer.

Still waiting for a link if someone can help me out.

http://ooxtv.com

Mods will remove this shortly so hopefully this link gets to you.

I am also only giving you this link so you can see SA crash and burn. I want them to win but unfrotuantely defensive cricket does not win against the Aussies. Look how India played them. Look how england batted against them in the Ashes. The minute the English decided to go for it....the whole series changed in one morning session at Edgabaston.
 
IronMan2009 said:
I think Malinga clocked around 148 during CB series in one of the match against India.
But i agree MJ can sustain his pace for a long time. But he can go upto 150 . Steyn is quick as well. Btw Flintoff was bowling a good spell in the first Test. He clocked around 145.
As punter said Flintoff hits the bat harder than others. You have to also factor in how much pace the ball loses after it hits the deck.

Yep but unfortunately we have no way of measuring pace off the pitch objectively.

No doubting some bowlers get more pace off the pitch than others but the only objective thing we can go on is the speed gun out of the hand.

And even then only really comparable in the same game because the variables with speed guns are many.
 
kingusama92 said:
That fact alone scares me of what he could do if he was fit again.... he would be crossing 150-52 KPH with ease at the beginning of his spells...

He is much much stronger than before. He's just been following the wrong diet. :inzi
 
I think everyone concurs here SA has been overly defensive in the name of "seeing off" new ball. All i am saying is just hit the loose balls. MJ was all over when he started.
 
Krajeza bowls at ideal speed for an off spinner. If he can develop a doosra he can be a very good bowler.
 
Rightnow Amla is picking him off the pitch rather than in the air most of the time. After lunch let us see how he approaches.
 
TruSachFan said:
Only if harbhajan had the gutsy bowling of Kreza :(


I think this is the ideal speed for an offie. Powar is too slow..though which is not a bad thing though leaving the batsman to generate all the power.
But that loop, drift will come when you bowl slow.
 
Saffers won't play defensive all day I'm sure. I think they noted howdead the pitch went after the ball got old and are playing it pretty smart right now.
 
I would have personally preferred watto. On surfaces like this cutters are more effective. He bowls cutters especially to righties well.
 
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