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Australia winning the Ashes will be a victory for Test cricket

Reason why England come back strong in the 2nd leg of the Ashes was due to picking Wood & Woakes.

Robinson too slow clouderson is finished with only broady lifting his game one final time in this series.
 
This should, and could quite easily have been a 5-nilller for England (weather permitting).

The 2 tests they lost were through not tempering their approach. All for Bazball but there's aggression and then there's reckless abandon and the first two tests were lost through recklessness.

Australia weren't the better side for me, it was an England brain-fade at key points. Yes Australia fought but England were hardly outplayed in the whole series (when they weren't gifting the game to the Aussies) save for the final test where the Aussies were 140-0 in pursuit of 380 odd... soon crumbled to lose, however.
 
England deserved to win the series. Rain saved Australia.
 
Reason why England come back strong in the 2nd leg of the Ashes was due to picking Wood & Woakes.

Robinson too slow clouderson is finished with only broady lifting his game one final time in this series.

Or, that Lyon was out for the last 3 Tests.
 
England great queries Australia top-order ahead of Ashes

Stuart Broad claimed Australia’s current Test top three as the most 'muddled' he’s seen from the country in his lifetime.

Following David Warner's retirement at the end of 2023 and Marnus Labuschagne’s recent dip in form, Australia have fielded a new-look top three featuring Usman Khawaja, Sam Konstas, and Cameron Green. This reshuffled top order has drawn criticism from former England bowler Stuart Broad, who labeled it the most 'muddled' top three he has seen in his lifetime.

Having featured in 40 Ashes Tests and bowling to legendary Australian top order batters like Matthew Hayden, Justin Langer, and Ricky Ponting, Broad expressed concern over the lack of clarity and stability in Australia’s current Test top order.

“I’m not out of place in thinking it’s the most muddled top three in my lifetime. I’ve grown up with Hayden, Langer and Ponting,” Broad said on The Grade Cricketer podcast.

“But I think Usman is struggling. Cameron Green at three… he’s a six, isn’t he? Or a five. Anyone who used to take off stump guard would really excite me as an opening bowler because they play at fifth stump and don’t know where their off stump is.

“Ultimately with Labuschagne, I know he’s struggled for a couple of years, but he’s a good player. So I’d be surprised if he doesn’t come back into the frame at some stage.”

Despite Sam Konstas' struggles since his blockbuster Boxing Day Test debut against India, Stuart Broad expressed confidence in the batter. The 19-year-old has averaged just 18.25 in the four Tests he has played so far, but Broad believes the youngster has a promising future ahead.

“Konstas is young and learning his way, those pitches in the Caribbean have been quite tricky so I imagine he’ll get a run (in the Ashes).” said Broad.

“I watched him in the nets before the World Test Championship at Lord’s and even though he didn’t play, the crunch off the bat that you hear (was impressive), but he’s got a couple of low scores and you start to question yourself a little bit. But I think he (Konstas) is there to stay."

Stuart Broad emphasized the importance of Australia’s top order seeing off the new ball to protect the middle order of Steve Smith and Travis Head to allow them to play their natural game, something they have struggled with in recent times. He noted that this is particularly crucial for Steve Smith, who he knows firsthand can be extremely dangerous once he settles in.

“They need to find a way to protect Smith and Head at four and five who are unbelievable and Carey is playing great at seven.

“You can’t have Steve Smith in so early every game. One of Australia’s greatest strengths is when ‘Smudger’ arrives with a 35-over old ball and it’s doing nothing, so they need to find a way to do that.”

Australia’s top order will face another stern test, this time under lights, as they gear up for the pink-ball Test against the West Indies in Kingston starting July 12. The visitors have already sealed the three-match series 2-0.

Source: https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/england-great-queries-australia-top-order-ahead-of-ashes
 
Ponting puts forward Australia top order for Ashes

ICC Hall of Famer Ricky Ponting has named the top three he believes will be named by Australia come the first Ashes Test against England later this year, and puts forward his advice for a struggling opener.

Despite a 3-0 Test series win away in the Caribbean, Australia’s batters did little to silence the critics who flagged the side’s frailties earlier in the year, instead leaning on the side’s irrepressible bowling attack.

Watching on as the likes of Mitchell Starc, Scott Boland and Josh Hazlewood dismantled the West Indies for just 27 in the final innings to cap off a barnstorming tour with the ball, the Australians only passed 300 once in the series, with the bulk of the runs made further down the order.

Having kept a close eye on the series, Ponting put forward the top three he believes will front up for the first Ashes Test and in Australia’s first home stand of the new World Test Championship cycle.

He also said he’d “back in” young opener Sam Konstas, who has been the subject of great debate among Australian cricket fans and media.

“The (batters) that they're talking about the last couple of weeks in particular, have been (Sam) Konstas and (Usman) Khawaja, and then there was some talk about Cameron Green, if he was a long term No.3 three or not,” Ponting began, in conversation with Sanjana Ganesan in the latest edition of The ICC Review.

“(Green’s) second innings in the West Indies (in the last Test) might have just put some of that to bed. As tough as those conditions were to bat for as long as he did in trying conditions he might have silenced a few of those critics.

“I think with where they're at, I think the Ashes line-up is going to be like it is right now. I think that's what they're going to be starting with, and you keep your fingers crossed and hope that those guys can get the job done at the start.”

Ponting acknowledges the spots are far from locked in, though with just an Australia A series against Sri Lanka and four Sheffield Shield rounds before the pivotal series, there is limited opportunity for others to squeeze their way in.

“Nathan McSweeney, who started the Australian summer against India last year, he's made some runs in one of those (Sri Lanka A) games. Matt Renshaw has made a lot of runs in the white ball format as well in those games.”

“I don't think there's going to be anyone else outside of the names that we've heard for the last couple of years that will be spoken about again. McSweeney is the obvious one to go back to sooner rather than later.

“If they (Australia) get two or three Test matches into the Ashes and things aren't going well, the longer you go in a series, obviously the harder it is to change, and it's not like they're jumping up and down, batsmen left, right and centre making runs all over the place either.

“The start of the Sheffield Shield season will be an interesting one for some of those names that I've mentioned there, and I'll throw another name in that I think is a highly talented Australian batsman, that's Jason Sangha.

“I think he's someone whose name will probably come up at some stage as well, but there's just not many games now, not many opportunities to be able to get yourself and get your name up in front of the selectors.”

Much of the attention has been focused on opener Konstas, who outside of a stunning Test debut half-century against Jasprit Bumrah and India’s bowling attack in last year’s Boxing Day Test, has struggled for runs.

The teenager averages just 16.30 in his first 10 Test innings, however Ponting believes it has been a tougher initiation than it perhaps could have been.

“I read some really interesting quotes or a story written by (Australian journalist) Robert Craddock about Sam Konstas, how the Australians sort of tried to protect him from what they thought was going to be a really difficult tour of Sri Lanka.

“They left him out there hoping to bring him in in the Caribbean where things might have been a little bit easier. Well, it's been the opposite. It's been the exact opposite of that.

“As it turned out, the attack and the wickets in Sri Lanka were good batting wickets and a really poor attack. And the wickets that we've got in the Caribbean have been hard for everybody to bat on. I look at that last result where the West Indies have been bowled out for 27.

“That's just not down to high quality bowling. That's down to the surface and the ball and all sorts of things.”

In Konstas’ bid to build his game, Ponting has noticed technical corrections, which could lead to long-term benefits, albeit sacrificing short-term success.

“Sam's always going to have, like every batter that is finding their way at international level, people sit back and try and pick holes in your technique when you're trying to find your own way at international level.

“Now he's always been someone that's been talked about potentially having an issue with (the ball) coming back in, particularly on the front foot, and we saw in the Caribbean a couple of instances there of lbws and chop-ons but we also saw the other side of it where when he tries to correct that and probably stay a little bit more leg-side of the ball. That's when the outside edge of the bat comes into play and he nicked a couple as well like he did in the second innings of that first Test match.

“I'm not going to make any really harsh judgment calls on Sam yet because it was hard work for every batter in that series, there's no doubt about it.

“(I) think they have to stick with him for a period of time and help him work through these deficiencies that he might have or might not have.

“If we get him back onto some flatter wickets at the start of the Australian summer and some Sheffield Shield matches under his belt, maybe he's got a great chance there to get some confidence back and get some runs under his belt. I'll back him in.”

Ponting himself is no stranger to being thrown in the deep end at the highest level, making his Test debut as a 20-year-old, and only compiling the one century in the format in his first two years in the Baggy Green.

With that perspective, the ICC Hall of Famer provided invaluable insight.

“The unfortunate thing about Test cricket and when you're a young bloke trying to find your feet is quite often you have to work it out for yourself because it's out in the middle,” said Ponting.

“You can practice as much as you want, you can do things in the nets as much as you want, you can seek as much advice as you want, but you've got to find a method and something that works for you out in the middle.

“Now that might be technique-wise, it might be the way you approach it, it might be the mental side of your game, but there's no greater experience than being out there and doing it.”

“It's trial and error until you actually find the exact right remedy that works for you and the only way you can do that is by being out in the middle and spending some time there. I mean for Sam, I think he's probably got that many people wanting to give him advice right now.”

“I'd be having one or two people that I'm really close to and asking for their advice and no more, and trying to keep all the noise away. It's easy to say that with all the media outlets and social media things that are out there now, it really is hard just to lie low and not listen to any of the stuff that's happening around you.

“But if I was him, I'd be trying to do that and I'd be keeping the preparation side and practice side as simple as possible.”

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Ponting puts forward Australia top order for Ashes

ICC Hall of Famer Ricky Ponting has named the top three he believes will be named by Australia come the first Ashes Test against England later this year, and puts forward his advice for a struggling opener.

Despite a 3-0 Test series win away in the Caribbean, Australia’s batters did little to silence the critics who flagged the side’s frailties earlier in the year, instead leaning on the side’s irrepressible bowling attack.

Watching on as the likes of Mitchell Starc, Scott Boland and Josh Hazlewood dismantled the West Indies for just 27 in the final innings to cap off a barnstorming tour with the ball, the Australians only passed 300 once in the series, with the bulk of the runs made further down the order.

Having kept a close eye on the series, Ponting put forward the top three he believes will front up for the first Ashes Test and in Australia’s first home stand of the new World Test Championship cycle.

He also said he’d “back in” young opener Sam Konstas, who has been the subject of great debate among Australian cricket fans and media.

“The (batters) that they're talking about the last couple of weeks in particular, have been (Sam) Konstas and (Usman) Khawaja, and then there was some talk about Cameron Green, if he was a long term No.3 three or not,” Ponting began, in conversation with Sanjana Ganesan in the latest edition of The ICC Review.

“(Green’s) second innings in the West Indies (in the last Test) might have just put some of that to bed. As tough as those conditions were to bat for as long as he did in trying conditions he might have silenced a few of those critics.

“I think with where they're at, I think the Ashes line-up is going to be like it is right now. I think that's what they're going to be starting with, and you keep your fingers crossed and hope that those guys can get the job done at the start.”

Ponting acknowledges the spots are far from locked in, though with just an Australia A series against Sri Lanka and four Sheffield Shield rounds before the pivotal series, there is limited opportunity for others to squeeze their way in.

“Nathan McSweeney, who started the Australian summer against India last year, he's made some runs in one of those (Sri Lanka A) games. Matt Renshaw has made a lot of runs in the white ball format as well in those games.”

“I don't think there's going to be anyone else outside of the names that we've heard for the last couple of years that will be spoken about again. McSweeney is the obvious one to go back to sooner rather than later.

“If they (Australia) get two or three Test matches into the Ashes and things aren't going well, the longer you go in a series, obviously the harder it is to change, and it's not like they're jumping up and down, batsmen left, right and centre making runs all over the place either.

“The start of the Sheffield Shield season will be an interesting one for some of those names that I've mentioned there, and I'll throw another name in that I think is a highly talented Australian batsman, that's Jason Sangha.

“I think he's someone whose name will probably come up at some stage as well, but there's just not many games now, not many opportunities to be able to get yourself and get your name up in front of the selectors.”

Much of the attention has been focused on opener Konstas, who outside of a stunning Test debut half-century against Jasprit Bumrah and India’s bowling attack in last year’s Boxing Day Test, has struggled for runs.

The teenager averages just 16.30 in his first 10 Test innings, however Ponting believes it has been a tougher initiation than it perhaps could have been.

“I read some really interesting quotes or a story written by (Australian journalist) Robert Craddock about Sam Konstas, how the Australians sort of tried to protect him from what they thought was going to be a really difficult tour of Sri Lanka.

“They left him out there hoping to bring him in in the Caribbean where things might have been a little bit easier. Well, it's been the opposite. It's been the exact opposite of that.

“As it turned out, the attack and the wickets in Sri Lanka were good batting wickets and a really poor attack. And the wickets that we've got in the Caribbean have been hard for everybody to bat on. I look at that last result where the West Indies have been bowled out for 27.

“That's just not down to high quality bowling. That's down to the surface and the ball and all sorts of things.”

In Konstas’ bid to build his game, Ponting has noticed technical corrections, which could lead to long-term benefits, albeit sacrificing short-term success.

“Sam's always going to have, like every batter that is finding their way at international level, people sit back and try and pick holes in your technique when you're trying to find your own way at international level.

“Now he's always been someone that's been talked about potentially having an issue with (the ball) coming back in, particularly on the front foot, and we saw in the Caribbean a couple of instances there of lbws and chop-ons but we also saw the other side of it where when he tries to correct that and probably stay a little bit more leg-side of the ball. That's when the outside edge of the bat comes into play and he nicked a couple as well like he did in the second innings of that first Test match.

“I'm not going to make any really harsh judgment calls on Sam yet because it was hard work for every batter in that series, there's no doubt about it.

“(I) think they have to stick with him for a period of time and help him work through these deficiencies that he might have or might not have.

“If we get him back onto some flatter wickets at the start of the Australian summer and some Sheffield Shield matches under his belt, maybe he's got a great chance there to get some confidence back and get some runs under his belt. I'll back him in.”

Ponting himself is no stranger to being thrown in the deep end at the highest level, making his Test debut as a 20-year-old, and only compiling the one century in the format in his first two years in the Baggy Green.

With that perspective, the ICC Hall of Famer provided invaluable insight.

“The unfortunate thing about Test cricket and when you're a young bloke trying to find your feet is quite often you have to work it out for yourself because it's out in the middle,” said Ponting.

“You can practice as much as you want, you can do things in the nets as much as you want, you can seek as much advice as you want, but you've got to find a method and something that works for you out in the middle.

“Now that might be technique-wise, it might be the way you approach it, it might be the mental side of your game, but there's no greater experience than being out there and doing it.”

“It's trial and error until you actually find the exact right remedy that works for you and the only way you can do that is by being out in the middle and spending some time there. I mean for Sam, I think he's probably got that many people wanting to give him advice right now.”

“I'd be having one or two people that I'm really close to and asking for their advice and no more, and trying to keep all the noise away. It's easy to say that with all the media outlets and social media things that are out there now, it really is hard just to lie low and not listen to any of the stuff that's happening around you.

“But if I was him, I'd be trying to do that and I'd be keeping the preparation side and practice side as simple as possible.”

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In my opinion Australia needs to bring Labu back at no 3. Green is a solid player and gun talent but not a no 3.

Hot take but it would be interesting to see Green open but tbh I think they should go back to Nathan McSweeney.

He wasnt a bad opener, he was good. He only got out to Bumrah, the others didnt trouble him. I dont think Australia did him justice.

However if Ponting Believes Konstas is the way to go then I trust him.

I dont believe Pakpassion posters over my Goat, my one and only, my legend Lord Ponting, unless he talks about India due to bcci money paying for silence.
 
In an ideal world, the openers for Ashes should be picked based on who starts off the Sheffield Shield season strongly and then, given a proper chance to shine.

Also, we definitely need an experienced head in the top 3, and I would choose Labu for that over Khawaja.
 
In an ideal world, the openers for Ashes should be picked based on who starts off the Sheffield Shield season strongly and then, given a proper chance to shine.

Also, we definitely need an experienced head in the top 3, and I would choose Labu for that over Khawaja.
Australia doesnt want Head to open since as stats suggest, he is a different beast when he bats with either Labu or Steve Smith are set then when he has other batting partners.

I think Australia wants him to bat at no 5 as he is Australia's counter to Harry Brook. Brooks is sent to smack fast paced centuries and bat opponents out of the game.

Labu needs to come back at no 3, Smith no 4, Head no 5, Webster no 6 and Carey no 7

^^ Australia should not deviated away from this. Justice needs to be done for Labu. Stupid decison to drop him.
 
Australia doesnt want Head to open since as stats suggest, he is a different beast when he bats with either Labu or Steve Smith are set then when he has other batting partners.

I think Australia wants him to bat at no 5 as he is Australia's counter to Harry Brook. Brooks is sent to smack fast paced centuries and bat opponents out of the game.

Labu needs to come back at no 3, Smith no 4, Head no 5, Webster no 6 and Carey no 7

^^ Australia should not deviated away from this. Justice needs to be done for Labu. Stupid decison to drop him.

Oh yeah, mate, I definitely agree in regards to Head's position. By experienced head, I meant to say we need an experienced player (Labu) in the top 3.
 
Australia doesnt want Head to open since as stats suggest, he is a different beast when he bats with either Labu or Steve Smith are set then when he has other batting partners.

I think Australia wants him to bat at no 5 as he is Australia's counter to Harry Brook. Brooks is sent to smack fast paced centuries and bat opponents out of the game.

Labu needs to come back at no 3, Smith no 4, Head no 5, Webster no 6 and Carey no 7

^^ Australia should not deviated away from this. Justice needs to be done for Labu. Stupid decison to drop him.
Agree with the batting order. Aus. needs to find genuine openers and stop this make shift shuffling.

THey just need two openers. Or even one for now and see how Konstas does for a few more tests. So far he has been a failure.
 
Agree with the batting order. Aus. needs to find genuine openers and stop this make shift shuffling.

THey just need two openers. Or even one for now and see how Konstas does for a few more tests. So far he has been a failure.
I think Aus should pick the 2 best openers from Sheffield and have them play the Ashes.

Its time to let khawaja go. Aus isnt doing themsleves any favours by having 2 walking wickets at the top
 
Warner fires Ashes jibe at England's Root

David Warner says Joe Root will need to "take the surfboard off his front leg" if he and England are to succeed in Australia this winter.

Warner, 38, is in England for a stint with London Spirit in The Hundred and while he is looking forward to calling Lord's home for a month, he could not resist a gentle dig at former Ashes rivals.

England face Australia in the Ashes from late November, when they will attempt to win back the urn for the first time in 10 years.

"The big anchor there is Rooty [England batter Joe Root], who is yet to score a hundred in Australia," Warner told BBC Sport.

In reference to a perception that Root gets out lbw a lot, Warner said: "Josh Hazlewood tends to have his number quite a lot. He will have to take the surfboard off his front leg."

Warner, who retired from international cricket last year, is set to make his Hundred debut in the tournament opener against Oval Invincibles on Tuesday.

He could face Root's Trent Rockets at Lord's on 14 August.

Root is the number one Test batter in the world and crucial to England's hopes of winning the Ashes but has never scored a century in Australia.

He has been dismissed 10 times in 18 Tests by Australia seamer Hazlewood - one fewer than the 11 times he has been dismissed by Australia captain Pat Cummins and India bowler Jasprit Bumrah.

"It all comes down to the bowlers," Warner said.

"If the English bowlers can put a dent in the Australia top order then they will come into the contest."

Warner could also face another former Ashes rival in The Hundred this year in veteran bowler James Anderson. Anderson was a late pick for Manchester Originals, who the Spirit play on 11 August.

Asked about the prospect of facing England's record wicket-taker again, Warner said: "They are 2025 white cricket balls not 2018 red Dukes.

"It is going to be a bit different."

England asked for the 2018 batch of Dukes balls to be used for the 2019 Ashes because they expected them to move more for Anderson and the hosts' other seamers.

Anderson was injured four overs into the series which was drawn 2-2, yet Warner has not forgotten.

"He probably won't be able to seam it around corners like they normally do," Warner said.

When Warner plays on Tuesday it will be the first time he has taken to the field on English soil since the final day of the Ashes in 2023.

That day, before the ball changes, bail swaps and Stuart Broad's finale, Warner was applauded off by the crowd at The Oval, despite his troubled history with the England-supporting public.

"I was touched by that," Warner said.

"It is a credit to the supporters of cricket in England, who love the game.

"We have always had our challenges and battles as nations but what English supporters do is appreciate players who have played for a long time. That did mean a lot."

The Spirit reached the Hundred eliminator 2022 but have finished seventh or eighth in the tournament's other three seasons.

This year Warner will be reunited with another Australian, the former coach and opener Justin Langer who has replaced Trevor Bayliss as coach.

"I know Spirit haven't gone too well in the past few years," Warner said.

"For myself to bring some energy and intensity to the group and project that on the field would be awesome.

"It is about the fans and the young kids that are coming out to see us, not about the player and whether there has been a bit of history or not.

"It is about supporting the game, making sure we are the ones putting bums on seats and are there for the right reasons."

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A bit rich coming from Warner, considering he is probably the main reason why Australia never won an Ashes in England during his career.

If Hazelwood has Root’s number, Broad had Warner’s entire phone book.
 
Root likely to have his best ever Ashes in Australia given the batting form he’s been in.
 
Strewth, we don't even know what our top 3 is going to look like come the Perth test and this guy is out here giving extra motivation to Root.
 
Strewth, we don't even know what our top 3 is going to look like come the Perth test and this guy is out here giving extra motivation to Root.
Root is Cummins bunny though? The real rivalry is not Bumrah vs Root lol, Root has literally bullied a Bumrah India at home and away more times then I can count.

Getting A batter out when he has already scored 50-100 1000x against you isnt a rivalry.

In Australia Cummins has prevented Root from scoring a century or avg 40 or more against Australia. He has butchered Root beyond belief.

I dont think root will be much of an issue. Curious to see brook and Crawley performance though. I dont think the others are an issue.

Our main issue is batting. Our batting is hilarious atm bro excluding Steve Smith and Some clutch innings from beau and Carey down the order.

Travis Head is a one hit wonder.
 
If Archer, Wood, Atkinson, Tongue stay fit enough for the grind of 5 test matches, England have a massive opportunity to beat Australia even if Root doesn't score.
 
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