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With a pleading that Myanmar must manifest a clear political will for sustainable return and reintegration of Rohingyas to their homeland, Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina has placed a four-point proposal before the 74th United Nations General Assembly (UNGA) to resolve the protracted Rohingya crisis.

“The Rohingya crisis is now becoming a regional threat”, said Sheikh Hasina, seeking expeditious interventions from the international community for a permanent solution to the crisis.

“Myanmar must manifest clear political will supported by concrete actions for sustainable return and reintegration of Rohingyas to Myanmar,” she said in her first proposal while delivering the country statement in the General Debate of the 74th UNGA Session.

Sheikh Hasina delivered the statement in Bangla like every year in the past at the General Assembly Hall in the UN Headquarters here on Friday afternoon local time.

This year’s theme of the general debate is “Galvanizing multilateral efforts for poverty eradication, quality education, climate action and inclusion”.


Tijjani Muhammad-Bande of Nigeria was elected the President of the 74th UNGA Session.

In her second proposal, the premier said that Myanmar must build trust among the Rohingyas by discarding discriminatory laws and practices and allowing ”go and see” visit to the Northern Rakhine by the Rohingya representatives.

“Myanmar must guarantee security and safety of the Rohingyas by deploying ivilian monitors from international community in the Rakhine State,” she said in her third proposal.

The premier in her last proposal said the international community must ensure that the root causes of Rohingya problem area addressed and the violation of human rights and other atrocity crimes committed against the Rohingyas are accounted for.

Sheikh Hasina mentioned that in the past, she had offered a five-point proposal to the United Nations during the 72nd UN General Assembly to put an end to the Rohingya crisis.

“The proposals included full implementation of recommendations of the Kofi Annan Commission, and establishment of civilian monitored safe zone in the Rakhine State,” she said.

Requesting the international community to understand the un-tenability of the situation, the premier said the crisis is now going beyond the camps.

“Despite our all efforts to contain it, the crisis is now becoming a regional threat. Moreover, increasing congestion and environmental degradation is challenging health and security in the area,” she said.

Expressing her disappointment over the Rohingya crisis, the prime minister said, “It is indeed unfortunate that I have to again raise this issue in this august body as the Rohingya crisis remains unresolved. We continue to host 1.1 million Rohingya who were forced to leave Myanmar due to atrocities committed against them.”

Sheikh Hasina said the crisis is now lingering into the third year; yet not a single Rohingya could return to Myanmar due to absence of safety and security, freedom of movement and overall conducive environment in Rakhine State of Myanmar.

Terming the Rohingya issue as a matter of Myanmar and its own people, the prime minister said, “We are bearing the burden of a crisis which is Myanmar’s own making … it’s an issue solely between Myanmar and its own people, the Rohingyas. They themselves have to resolve it,” she said.

Sheikh Hasina said the voluntary return of the Rohingyas to their homes in the Rakhine state in safety, security and dignity is the only solution to the crisis.

“We’ll continue our engagement with Myanmar to make repatriation of the Rohingyas to happen,” she added.

Apart from the Rohingya crisis, Sheikh Hasina, in her speech, also highlighted her government’s position on different global issues such as safe immigration, refugee crisis, climate change, SDGs and socioeconomic developments.

The prime minister reminded the international community that Bangalees endured extreme form of genocide in 1971 while during the nine-month Liberation War against Pakistan, three million innocent people were killed and two hundred thousand women were violated by the Pakistani occupation forces and their local collaborators.

“Our painful experiences have emboldened us to continue to speak for the oppressed people. We stand firm in our support for our Palestinian brothers and sisters till their just and rightful struggle comes to fruition,” she continued.

Extending her heartfelt thanks to the UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres for his dynamic leadership, Sheikh Hasina said that the value of the UN’s role in maintaining international peace and security is enormous.

“We continue to promote the idea of ‘Culture of Peace’, which has now transcended time and become a dominant theme at the UN —- Our stern actions against extremism, terrorism, drug trafficking and corruption have restored peace in the society and among people. We shall continue our actions,” she said.

The premier vowed to continue Bangladesh’s support to the United Nations as a strong multilateral body, which would be fully equipped to deal with the tasks and responsibilities assigned to it under the Charter.

Mentioning Bangladesh’s contribution to UN peace keeping missions, the premier said as the second largest troops and police contributing country Bangladesh continues to respond to the appeal for participation of troops for peacekeeping operations under the UN.

“We support the Secretary-General’s initiatives to make UN peace operations ‘fit for future’. Responding to his call for implementation of the Action for Peacekeeping Agenda, we have joined as one of the ‘champion’ countries. We have also been playing an important role in the evolution of the conceptual framework of “sustaining peace,” she continued.

To this end, she said “As the world’s principal multilateral body, the General Assembly is best positioned to steer the actions that would promote international cooperation in achieving development, peace and security.”

In this context, the premier recalled Father of the Nation Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman’s speech in UNGA session in 1974.

She quoted Bangabandhu as saying “In a world that is marked by strife and human misery, the United Nations remains the focus of man’s hope for the future. Despite many difficulties and obstacles placed in its way, the United Nations, during more than a quarter century of its existence, has significantly contributed towards human progress in the political, economic, social and cultural fields”.

The prime minister said Bangladesh is now preparing to celebrate the birth centenary of this great leader beginning in March 2020, adding that reflecting on his vision and aspirations, “we wish to bring this celebration to the United Nations in the next year”.

On the climate change issue, the premier said “The global disposition for climate action generated by the just concluded Climate Action Summit would translate into real impetus for implementation of the Paris Agreement in the broader context of 2030 Agenda.”

“Our long-term plan for adaptation and resilience is anchored in our Delta Plan 2100, a comprehensive and long-term techno-economic plan for the Bangladesh Delta. The Plan focuses on food security, water safety, climate change, environment sustainability, disaster management and sustained economic growth. Following the recent Dhaka Meeting of the Global Commission on Adaptation, we are working on setting up a ‘Global Centre for Adaptation’ in Dhaka,” she added.

Regarding migration, the premier said “Bangladesh promotes safe, orderly and regular migration — Irregular migration and human trafficking are global menaces rooted in complex nets of syndicates and criminal networks. To prevent and suppress human trafficking nationally and also to foster international cooperation in tackling human trafficking, we have recently acceded to the Palermo Protocol on Trafficking in Persons.”

The premier in her speech also highlighted the success of her government for the massive overall socioeconomic growth in the last 10 years to achieve the Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) that included achieving the highest GDP growth among 26 countries, poverty reduction, education, health, power generation and information communication technology as well.

“Our commitment and shared aspirations to realize SDGs are reflected in the election manifesto of Awami League, which earned us the confidence of the people for the 3rd consecutive term in office. Our 21-point political commitment is dedicated to the wellbeing of people,” she continued.

Pointing out Bangladesh’s socio-economic development under the stewardship of her government in the last 10 years, the prime minister said, “Bangladesh has often been cited as a ‘development miracle’. Despite turbulence in the rule-based international order, and apprehensions of gradual economic slowdown, Bangladesh continued to prosper over last 10 years. ”

Referring to the Spectator Index 2019, she said that Bangladesh recorded the highest economic growth among a list of 26 countries in the last 10 years, with 188% expansion of gross domestic product (GDP) at the current prices. Our GDP has grown from $102 billion in 2009 to $302 billion this year.

Crediting with taking pragmatic programmes for the rapid economic and social development, she said “Poverty eradication, sustainable growth, protection of the environment and human-resources development are some of the key features of our development strategy.”

The premier went on saying, “Our exports grew 3 times from 2005-06 to reach US$ 37 billion in 2017-18. Per capita income grew 3.5 times. Our GDP growth has now reached 8.13%. Between 2005-06 and 2018-19, our investment rose from 26% to 31.5% of GDP; private sector investment grew five times to US$ 70.8 billion; foreign exchange reserve grew 9 times to US$ 33 billion.”

Terming poverty and inequality are two major obstacles for development, Sheikh Hasina said “Bangladesh has achieved one of the fastest poverty reduction rates in the world with poverty rate dropping from 41.5% in 2006 to 21.4% in 2018 and extreme poverty from 24% to 11.3%.”

She said extensive rural development, embedded in the concept of ‘My Village My Town’ and home-grown and pro-poor village projects like ‘Ashrayan, ‘Amar Bari Amar Khamar’, have contributed to our inclusive development.

Bangladesh has been ranked 34th in World Economic Forum’s Inclusive Development Index leaving other South Asian countries way behind, she added.

On social safety net programme, the premier said that a key development strategy in Bangladesh has been addressing inequality through social security, decent work and financial inclusion.

“Current safety net system gives special consideration for the vulnerable groups. Support comes in the form of cash, food, asset, wage-employment, training, savings and community support. Social safety net programmes are expanding, now covering nearly a quarter of the population and accounting for

2.58% of our GDP”, she added.

Regarding education, she said “Having achieved the milestones of gender parity and cent percent enrollment, we are now focusing on enhancing the quality of education with emphasis on e-learning, and qualified teachers.”

“Our school drop-out rate has gone down from 50% to 18%. In 2010, we started the free book distribution programme for all students up to Grade 10. Till date 2.96 billion text books have been distributed free of cost out of which about 352.20 million books were distributed in 2019 alone. 2.3 million students in primary and higher studies were awarded scholarships. 12.3 million mothers are receiving stipends through mobile phone,” she continued.

The premier said that they have created an extensive network of 18,000 community clinics and Union Health Centers to bring the entire population under health coverage.

“These centers provide 30 different types of medicine free of cost and free primary health services to the rural people, 80% of whom are women and children. Maternal, infant and child mortalities, malnutrition, stunting, low-weight, all are continuously reducing because of these actions,” she said.

Sheikh Hasina said that they have put special emphasis on the inclusion of persons with autism, disabilities and special needs in our development journey. “Currently, 1.645 million people with such disabilities and needs are receiving allowances from the government,” she added.

On ensuring equal access to technology, she said “We are investing in human capital to create an inclusive society through equal access to technology. Country-wide 5800 digital centers are taking 600 e-public services to people’s doorsteps. Number of internet users has crossed 90 million, tele-density has crossed 93%”.

“Bangabandhu Satellite-1, which we launched last year, has eased the expansion of broadcast-based services in remote areas and improved communications for development,” the prime minister said.

Describing the ‘Blue Economy’ as a new frontier of opportunities, the premier said, “We have developed a policy and a Plan of Action to tap our marine resources in the Bay of Bengal. We are contributing to UN’s norm-setting exercises on protecting marine biological diversity in the areas within and beyond national jurisdiction (BBNJ).”

On setting up the nuclear power plant, she said “We are building our first ever nuclear power plant in Rooppur leveraging on the principle of peaceful use of nuclear energy. Ninety three percent of our population has already been brought under electricity coverage. Bangladesh is now the second largest user of solar home system in the world.”

To this end she said “Bangladesh’s commitment to peaceful use of nuclear energy is fortified by its consistent position against nuclear armament. We have just ratified the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons as the 26th country of the world.”

https://www.thedailystar.net/rohing...aces-4-proposals-dubs-rohingya-crisis-1806475
 
Lets face it who even cares what Bangladesh thinks or says!:wy Had Bangladesh not been formed today the refugee's of Myanmar would have been our problem. Mrs not so Haseena the people of Myanmar will keep on returning if you throw then out. I hear that many have even crossed over in to India now:ssmith
 
Didn't she mention the hundred of thousands of non bengali people who were killed by the Mukti Bahini in East Pakistan???
 
She was there for her country and she did ot so we should not have any problem. looks like the refugee crisis is affecting Bangladesh badly.
 
Lets face it who even cares what Bangladesh thinks or says!:wy Had Bangladesh not been formed today the refugee's of Myanmar would have been our problem. Mrs not so Haseena the people of Myanmar will keep on returning if you throw then out. I hear that many have even crossed over in to India now:ssmith

Who cares what Pakistan says.? Does anyone? Dnt think so. Many countries have used you and this time it's china turn to use Pakistan.
 
Hasina and her party can't seem to move on from 1971. It has been 50 years and most of the Bangladeshi people have moved on. It is time to focus on present and future; no point in being in past.

This old lady should retire now.
 
She was there for her country and she did ot so we should not have any problem. looks like the refugee crisis is affecting Bangladesh badly.

Bangladesh is not a rich first world country. It is a third world country and also a very small country. Therefore, we can't afford to keep 2-million refugees. We don't have adequate space or resources.

I generally don't agree with Hasina but I can see why she is wanting to send refugees out.
 
Not a fan of Sheikh Hasina but I think we can all agree that Pakistan committed a major blunder in 1971.
 
A friend of mine undertook a mercy mission to BD for the Rohinga and he couldn't praise the Bengalis enough. The poor local Bengalis looked after a million refugees with the little they had and then later the charities and countries like Turkey came. The BD govt wasn't all that good, according to refugees and charities.
 
From the speech : The prime minister reminded the international community that Bangalees endured extreme form of genocide in 1971 while during the nine-month Liberation War against Pakistan, three million innocent people were killed and two hundred thousand women were violated by the Pakistani occupation forces and their local collaborators.
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.... & IK wants to project himself as a leader of all Muslims (certainly none I know) & talked about nuclear war.
 
From the speech : The prime minister reminded the international community that Bangalees endured extreme form of genocide in 1971 while during the nine-month Liberation War against Pakistan, three million innocent people were killed and two hundred thousand women were violated by the Pakistani occupation forces and their local collaborators.
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.... & IK wants to project himself as a leader of all Muslims (certainly none I know) & talked about nuclear war.

3 million killed?

by 90,000 soldiers.

Bollywood numbers.
 
3 million killed?

by 90,000 soldiers.

Bollywood numbers.

In Bangladesh, it is taught that 3-million died.

Independent source says about 300,000 died.

Pakistan source says 26,000 died.

I generally believe the independent source as it is probably less biased.
 
The 71 genocide and is the true face of our state, not this selective humanity drama. The people of Kashmir who think that we have their best interests at heart and actually care for them should not forget how we butchered our own people.

We can make feeble attempts to whitewash our history, but the world will never forget what we did to the people of East Bengal. The thrashing at the hands of India in the 71 war was cold justice, but it didn’t bring back the martyrs who lost their lives only for demanding their due rights.
 
From the speech : The prime minister reminded the international community that Bangalees endured extreme form of genocide in 1971 while during the nine-month Liberation War against Pakistan, three million innocent people were killed and two hundred thousand women were violated by the Pakistani occupation forces and their local collaborators.
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.... & IK wants to project himself as a leader of all Muslims (certainly none I know) & talked about nuclear war.

Wow, I didn’t know that IK was the leader in 1971? He was 19 at that time, it’s amazing how he was leading an entire country at that age.
 
you did not get it :facepalm:

My point is most involved in 1971 are now dead. And most Pakistanis I know consider what happened in 1971 to be wrong and iirc Musharraf even issued an apology. Not saying that is enough but the current Pakistani administration was not involved at least from what I know.

Also it makes no sense to use what happened in Bangladesh to justify killing Kashmiris.
 
The 71 genocide and is the true face of our state, not this selective humanity drama. The people of Kashmir who think that we have their best interests at heart and actually care for them should not forget how we butchered our own people.

We can make feeble attempts to whitewash our history, but the world will never forget what we did to the people of East Bengal. The thrashing at the hands of India in the 71 war was cold justice, but it didn’t bring back the martyrs who lost their lives only for demanding their due rights.

Martyrs?
Those martyrs of yours killed thousands of non bengalis who were living in East Pakistan.
People remember what Pakistan did to east Pakistan but they don't remember what east Pakistan did to the non bengalis
 
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BD PM said it at UN .............. conspiracy :moyo2:inzi:anwar:salute

Mate, you ain't good at trolling so just stop
[MENTION=14]Muddaser[/MENTION] it was actually around 300k
3 million is just a lie

Independent researchers have estimated the death toll to be around 300,000 to 500,000 people.
The United States intelligence agency, the CIA and the State Department estimated that 200,000 people had been killed in the genocide.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/looking-away-from-genocide
 
You learn something new daily.

Today I have learned that massacring 300,000 people is better than massacring 3 million.
 
So should we use the Holocaust against Germany now as well???

It was many decades ago

MOVE. ON.

BD PM said what she had to & then IK was trying to project himself as a human rights champion & leader of Muslims ... see the irony ? If not , move on .
 
You learn something new daily.

Today I have learned that massacring 300,000 people is better than massacring 3 million.

Can't be any worse than calling the people ,who slaughtered the non bengalis in East Pakistanis, martyrs
 
Let's start using the holocaust against Germany now shall we??
Even though Hitler's been dead for decades

The generals who instigated the genocide have been long dead.
You can't use that against us anymore

Germany is not controlled by its military anymore. When military stops controlling Pakistan, people will not bring up the genocide. However, nothing has changed between 71 and now.
 
BD PM said what she had to & then IK was trying to project himself as a human rights champion & leader of Muslims ... see the irony ? If not , move on .

How is it ironic??
Did IK instigate the massacre??
No he didn't
You can't use that against us now
 
wonder what will happen when she will be no more.
Many Bangladeshis have moved on.
It's only the ones who were there at that time so the 50,60,70 year olds who hate Pakistan.

Most of their youth don't hate us anymore so I assume they'll move on
 
I’m surprised some Pak posters are at least admitting that their Army did commit a genocide in East Pakistan back in 1971. I though most of them would play the conspiracy theory card and claim that the whole thing was a conspiracy by RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, etc to defame Pakistan, much like Zaid Hamid.
 
It's more to do with their leader "naam ki Hasina"
She was the daughter of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman

When she's no longer their leader, I think they'll move on

Most people have moved on. Nobody talks about 1971 anymore. Everyone has better things to do.

Hasina needs to bring it up consistently because it is one of the ways to get votes.
 
It is irrelevant now how many have died (from both sides). This is 2019. Learn from history and move on.

In my opinion, British Empire damaged Bangladesh far more than West Pakistan. Nobody talks about that.
 
Most people have moved on. Nobody talks about 1971 anymore. Everyone has better things to do.

Hasina needs to bring it up consistently because it is one of the ways to get votes.

better things like talking about plight of Indian Muslims & pleading ignorance about Chinese Muslims ?
 
better things like talking about plight of Indian Muslims & pleading ignorance about Chinese Muslims ?

Better things like focusing on own lives.

Do you think most of Bangladeshis are still mourning 1971? They are too busy with their lives. Only old bums like Hasina care about it.
 
I’m surprised some Pak posters are at least admitting that their Army did commit a genocide in East Pakistan back in 1971. I though most of them would play the conspiracy theory card and claim that the whole thing was a conspiracy by RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, etc to defame Pakistan, much like Zaid Hamid.

we are accepting that in war zone, crimes happens. just like in Iraq/afghan etc.
but not accepting the indian propaganda of killing millions of BD people.
thre were also many non-bangalis, biharis who were killed by mukti bahni. i dont think so PM hasina will accept those killing.
war is not black and white.
 
we are accepting that in war zone, crimes happens. just like in Iraq/afghan etc.
but not accepting the indian propaganda of killing millions of BD people.
thre were also many non-bangalis, biharis who were killed by mukti bahni. i dont think so PM hasina will accept those killing.
war is not black and white.

so now BD PM speech in UN is Indian propaganda ? How shameful .
 
I’m surprised some Pak posters are at least admitting that their Army did commit a genocide in East Pakistan back in 1971. I though most of them would play the conspiracy theory card and claim that the whole thing was a conspiracy by RAW, CIA, MOSSAD, etc to defame Pakistan, much like Zaid Hamid.

your obsession and infatuation with Zahid Hamid is worrisome.

I see you mentioning in almost all your post related to Pakistan.

None of us take him seriously, lol

And yea, try not to watch Indian media.

Every Pakistani knows about Bangladesh and every Pakistani mention what is wrong.

It is a talking point mostly used by RSS, Indian media and cheerleaders when nothing else to counter with.
 
are you for real ? How long will Pakistani's live in denial ?

Well either you are trying to be innocent or don't know history about sheikh hassina with Pakistan and his fantasy love for india

This lady run away from asia cup 2012 prize ceremony because Pakistan won that and she didn't like one bit
 
Pakistan's biggest weakness is it's economy. If it can fix that then all these worms would shut up and India wouldn't dare provoking it. Pakistan's economy is left behind even by Bangladesh which should be shameful to all Pakistanis. It didn't even need CPEC or other projects you see our leaders boasting about. You can blame corruption at the government level all you want but at the end of the day numbers are all that matter. We just need to make it happen, I'm hoping Imran Khan can do that. If you look at what Bangladesh accomplished in the last 10 years going from $100bil to $300bil then I don't get why Pakistan can't do the same in 10 years and go from $300bil to $900bil economy.
 
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Who cares what Pakistan says.? Does anyone? Dnt think so. Many countries have used you and this time it's china turn to use Pakistan.

Many countries care what Pak says otherwise so many in America would not be protesting against Modi outside when he was speaking like the Sikhs, Dalits and Christians. IK was during the UN gathering and probably is the most searched leader on Google after Trump and well before Modi. The people in IoK for starters care what IK says and most of all the Kashmir issue is now an internationally highlighted one even showing in lights in the USA. China is not using us dummy rather a big thorn in your side which is why you keep crying about CPEC. That is what the problem is but chaiwala does not understand, his people do though.
 
It’s true....my ex-mother in law hates the Bangladeshi people. They killed her whole family. She and her sister managed to escape.
 
It’s true....my ex-mother in law hates the Bangladeshi people. They killed her whole family. She and her sister managed to escape.

Where did it happen? Bangladesh?

I believe war crimes happened on both sides. That is the ugly side of any war.

My dad was apprehended by Pakistani army but they let him go. He was around 14 then.
 
Pakistan's biggest weakness is it's economy. If it can fix that then all these worms would shut up and India wouldn't dare provoking it. Pakistan's economy is left behind even by Bangladesh which should be shameful to all Pakistanis. It didn't even need CPEC or other projects you see our leaders boasting about. You can blame corruption at the government level all you want but at the end of the day numbers are all that matter. We just need to make it happen, I'm hoping Imran Khan can do that. If you look at what Bangladesh accomplished in the last 10 years going from $100bil to $300bil then I don't get why Pakistan can't do the same in 10 years and go from $300bil to $900bil economy.

I think you have raised a very valid point. As long as Pakistan remains a broke economy that goes from country to country with a begging bowl, it will not have any credibility, because no matter what it says, it will eventually circle back to the fact that our own country is a basket case.

This is why Pakistan must forget and ignore what happens in Indian administered Kashmir and focus on its own country. Boost the economy, strengthen the instructions, achieve civilian supremacy, give rights to minorities and FATA/Balochistan, and eventually countries will start taking you seriously and will even envy your progress. If we can achieve all of this, we will be in a much stronger position to raise our voice against India.

Pakistan needs to take inspiration from one of our biggest pre-independence heroes - Sir Syed Ahmed. After the 1857 War, he realized that the only way Muslims could compete with Hindus was by modernizing their education. He didn’t blame the Hindu and British conspiracies and he didn’t think making speeches would make a difference. He wanted Muslims to accept their shortcomings and focus on education.

This what we need to do 160 years later. We need to look at our own shortcomings and put ourselves on the map by achieving economic and social prosperity. That is the only way our voiced will be heard.
 
It is irrelevant now how many have died (from both sides). This is 2019. Learn from history and move on.

In my opinion, British Empire damaged Bangladesh far more than West Pakistan. Nobody talks about that.

Will you say the same about Islamic History, forget it move on?
 
Pakistan's biggest weakness is it's economy. If it can fix that then all these worms would shut up and India wouldn't dare provoking it. Pakistan's economy is left behind even by Bangladesh which should be shameful to all Pakistanis. It didn't even need CPEC or other projects you see our leaders boasting about. You can blame corruption at the government level all you want but at the end of the day numbers are all that matter. We just need to make it happen, I'm hoping Imran Khan can do that. If you look at what Bangladesh accomplished in the last 10 years going from $100bil to $300bil then I don't get why Pakistan can't do the same in 10 years and go from $300bil to $900bil economy.

BD posters still want their govn out, BD govn is an example of Corruption with competence.
I’m sure their version of BJP is waiting for them around the corner when all these BD posters criticizing Current PM will be singing praises of others.
 
Will you say the same about Islamic History, forget it move on?

We can't change the past. If someone is wronged, he/she should get compensated and everyone should move on.

We have to understand wars are nasty and people die.
 
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Where did it happen? Bangladesh?

I believe war crimes happened on both sides. That is the ugly side of any war.

My dad was apprehended by Pakistani army but they let him go. He was around 14 then.

I think so. She never clarified and I never asked. It was uncomfortable.
 
In Bangladesh, it is taught that 3-million died.

Independent source says about 300,000 died.

Pakistan source says 26,000 died.

I generally believe the independent source as it is probably less biased.

What’s wrong with you? 300000 does not hurt you??
And this is said by her excellence Bangladesh PM and you dispute it. All they are asking is for some solace and It’s difficult to do that also ?
 
What’s wrong with you? 300000 does not hurt you??
And this is said by her excellence Bangladesh PM and you dispute it. All they are asking is for some solace and It’s difficult to do that also ?

Forget it and mov on.. he jus said it stop disturbing him like i keep doing.
 
What’s wrong with you? 300000 does not hurt you??
And this is said by her excellence Bangladesh PM and you dispute it. All they are asking is for some solace and It’s difficult to do that also ?

I am someone who stays in present and focuses on future.

Whatever number it is, we can't go back and change anything. Why bother mourning over it?

Pakistan already apologized. They don't have to apologize over and over. Everyone should move on. This is 2019.
 
I am someone who stays in present and focuses on future.

Whatever number it is, we can't go back and change anything. Why bother mourning over it?

Pakistan already apologized. They don't have to apologize over and over. Everyone should move on. This is 2019.

Hopefully you can forgive America for Iraq and once they pull troops out of Afghanistan.
 
Hopefully you can forgive America for Iraq and once they pull troops out of Afghanistan.

I would forgive America if they compensate all victims, stop occupying lands illegally, and promise not to invade other countries again.

Americans invaded Iraq for no reason. They killed 1-million for nothing. Americans have done more war crimes than all the nations on this planet combined.

Pakistan was trying to keep East Pakistan. You can say there was a bit of justification.
 
Past and present must be being compared as point scoring because one apologized about the past while other uses past as point scoring to justify the massive scale of genocide that is currently happening at the modern age. It is kind of embarrassing and new low even for them.
 
Past and present must be being compared as point scoring because one apologized about the past while other uses past as point scoring to justify the massive scale of genocide that is currently happening at the modern age. It is kind of embarrassing and new low even for them.
 
Has Pakistan tendered an official apology? Notice Bangladesh raising this often. How do official apologies work? Is there any legal string attached, like compensation? Any legal expert here?
 
Many Pakistani friends here may not like it but what Pakistan did to Bangladeshis in 1971 is one of the worst genocide modern sub continent history.

It is also true that Pakistan has left that past well behind and is truly the champion of humanity and the one true leader of the Asian bloc keeping its moral conscience into consideration.

We must objectively look at Pakistan of 1971 and Naya Pakistan of 2019
 
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Many Pakistani friends here may not like it but what Pakistan did to Bangladeshis in 1971 is one of the worst genocide modern sub continent history.

It is also true that Pakistan has left that past well behind and is truly the champion of humanity and the one true leader of the Asian bloc keeping its moral conscience into consideration.

We must objectively look at Pakistan of 1971 and Naya Pakistan of 2019

Your bhaijaam's two annas

Whether Pakistan acknowledges 1971 or not is no longer issue as opposed to what is happening right now in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir on the massive scale of genocide in the glorified manner.

What Pakistan did in the past or not whether Pakistan apologized for it or not is no longer relevant to what is happening right now in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir. I know Indians love to stir things up as point scoring and nothing more but if you have no sympathy for the minority in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir as they are being criminally genocide from the facet of the earth, it is best to stop playing moral card while using past as point score which to this day Pakistan has already apologized which does indicate self admittedly as often fall on deaf ears.
 
Whether Pakistan acknowledges 1971 or not is no longer issue as opposed to what is happening right now in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir on the massive scale of genocide in the glorified manner.

What Pakistan did in the past or not whether Pakistan apologized for it or not is no longer relevant to what is happening right now in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir. I know Indians love to stir things up as point scoring and nothing more but if you have no sympathy for the minority in India and Indian Occupied Kashmir as they are being criminally genocide from the facet of the earth, it is best to stop playing moral card while using past as point score which to this day Pakistan has already apologized which does indicate self admittedly as often fall on deaf ears.

I have sympathy for all humans as I see the the world with the eyes of humanity.

Let us join hands and beat the evil of injustice

If you are not with us we will terminate you.

Love and peace must prevail
 
I have sympathy for all humans as I see the the world with the eyes of humanity.

Let us join hands and beat the evil of injustice

If you are not with us we will terminate you.

Love and peace must prevail

Well spoken - excellent sentiments!
 
Well spoken - excellent sentiments!

Thanks bro.

It's great that we have this platform here where some vent their frustrations while many try their best to help them with words of wisdom.
 
I haven't actually seen that much wrong with what she said there. Most of the speech seems to be aimed at Myanamar ethnic cleansing of Muslims from their land, there was only a fleeting reference to the 'painful experience' of 1971.
 
Pakistan's biggest weakness is it's economy. If it can fix that then all these worms would shut up and India wouldn't dare provoking it. Pakistan's economy is left behind even by Bangladesh which should be shameful to all Pakistanis. It didn't even need CPEC or other projects you see our leaders boasting about. You can blame corruption at the government level all you want but at the end of the day numbers are all that matter. We just need to make it happen, I'm hoping Imran Khan can do that. If you look at what Bangladesh accomplished in the last 10 years going from $100bil to $300bil then I don't get why Pakistan can't do the same in 10 years and go from $300bil to $900bil economy.

Economy don't matter, Military might does, what was Britains GDP and what was the Mughals, yet they smashed the Mughals, What were small nations like Holland and Portugal colonizing the world because of military might not economy.
 
I have sympathy for all humans as I see the the world with the eyes of humanity.

Let us join hands and beat the evil of injustice

If you are not with us we will terminate you.

Love and peace must prevail

You do realize that it would mean going against Modi and Netanyahu given their official aggressive stance on massive genocide to eradicate all the Palestinians and Indian-Occupied-Kashmiri Muslims from the facets of the earth and that would be the starter.

I hope your reply is would bethe denouncement of those Modi and Netanyahu.

Otherwise we already have modi preaching peace and love just in case if you hadn’t noticed his speech in UN conference.
 
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