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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over 200 million Muslims call India home. Widespread anti-Muslim mob violence has killed at least 27 and injured many more. Trump responds by saying, "That's up to India." This is a failure of leadership on human rights.<a href="https://t.co/tUX713Bz9Y">https://t.co/tUX713Bz9Y</a></p>— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) <a href="https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1232763321163579395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


First boycotting AIPAC, then speaking out for Kashmiris at ISNAcon and now this. Bernie keeps hitting the right keys.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The BJP is wild <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/duaasforbernie?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#duaasforbernie</a> <a href="https://t.co/Sji2UI8OMW">pic.twitter.com/Sji2UI8OMW</a></p>— nashwa &#55356;&#57182;&#55357;&#56520; (@nashwakay) <a href="https://twitter.com/nashwakay/status/1232934843534774272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Some replies under the tweets are sickening.

Rotten mentality of some...
 
I don't know there's a part of me that says us shouldn't be interfering in other countries like that but there's a pak part of me that says this is the right thing
 
Now Indians and Russians will both try to influence the election in favor of Dolun Trump
 
Now Indians and Russians will both try to influence the election in favor of Dolun Trump

:facepalm:

Conspiracy theories have no limit.

BJP could not influence Delhi elections, but they will influence USA Presidential elections? If Democrats have a leader who is not a looney and goes full on Socialistic policies, they will have a chance. The likes of Bernie are complete cuckoos.
 
Surprised our extremist friends haven’t come here to say....

Bernie Sanders... who?
 
Do you think Sanders is going to criticize India if he ever becomes POTUS?

I don’t think that’s the point.
Point is the extremists here will dismiss anything and anything that is anti Indian.

Having said that, Sanders is a leftie like Corbyn and extremely anti war so nothjng would surprise me.
The biggest surprise would be a democrat beating Trump...
 
Look at how nasty the comments are from Indians. Pathetic, these people get a little bit of money and power and they think they own the world. About time someone puts them in their place, I'm voting for Bernie this election.
 
:facepalm:

Conspiracy theories have no limit.

BJP could not influence Delhi elections, but they will influence USA Presidential elections? If Democrats have a leader who is not a looney and goes full on Socialistic policies, they will have a chance. The likes of Bernie are complete cuckoos.

They didnt need to influence the elections because they are capable of inflicting retribution within India and that’s what we are seeing right now!

But Indian social media cyber forces will be on full display during elections. I can guarantee that right now! There more self appointed Indian cyber soldiers than real ones.. they will be on every platform including PP spreading poison against Sanders and hailing Trump.

Hell, you just did that yourself in your post. Bernie is bad for BJP, because his politics is all about inclusion and not divisiveness like Trump and Modi.
 
Man all the Indians I meet are genuinely nice people than where are the guys who are making these nasty tweets coming from
Like I am genuinely perplexed who are these people and like I don't where is this cockiness coming from like what are they so proud of???
 
But this will further the divide of Indians going
Rightward
 
Man all the Indians I meet are genuinely nice people than where are the guys who are making these nasty tweets coming from
Like I am genuinely perplexed who are these people and like I don't where is this cockiness coming from like what are they so proud of???

Being anonymous gives them courage.
 
If this is what the Hindutuva do Muslims that have been loyal to India, what would they have done to those of us that are glad that Quaid created PK.
 
Bernie like Jeremy can never win if they are anti Zionist policies or supporting the end of anti-Muslim violence.

The 'western world' is a storybook and the writers are not the citizens.
 
Bernie like Jeremy can never win if they are anti Zionist policies or supporting the end of anti-Muslim violence.

The 'western world' is a storybook and the writers are not the citizens.

The fact that Bernie himself is a Jew makes a fool out of everyone who cynically try to weaponise anti Semitism. There in lie the key difference between Bernie and Jeremy.
 
A jew whose campaign manager is a Pakistani American!

That itself is an example of why America is the largest economy in the world and a superpower. Truly a model for countries to follow, minus the Dolun Trumpy parts. :yk2
 
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Conspiracy theories have no limit.

BJP could not influence Delhi elections, but they will influence USA Presidential elections? If Democrats have a leader who is not a looney and goes full on Socialistic policies, they will have a chance. The likes of Bernie are complete cuckoos.

Well your BJP leader himself threatened Bernie that his truth against Indian government has forced them to intervene in American elections. BJP fanatics have already been active in getting Trump re elected and of course they can play their part again to get a right wing extremist get elected in US that suits right wing extremists in India.

The comments on Bernie's tweets are pretty shocking; most Indians are not only calling Bernie a jihadi and terrorist but also saying that he is telling lies and it's actually Muslims who have initiated all the violence. Shocking at so many levels!
 
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Well your BJP leader himself threatened Bernie that his truth against Indian government has forced them to intervene in American elections. BJP fanatics have already been active in getting Trump re elected and of course they can play their part again to get a right wing extremist get elected in US that suits right wing extremists in India.

The comments on Bernie's tweets are pretty shocking; most Indians are not only calling Bernie a jihadi and terrorist but also saying that he is telling lies and it's actually Muslims who have initiated all the violence. Shocking at so many levels!

At least BJP is keeping it honest. Right wing supporting Rightwing.
 
Man all the Indians I meet are genuinely nice people than where are the guys who are making these nasty tweets coming from
Like I am genuinely perplexed who are these people and like I don't where is this cockiness coming from like what are they so proud of???
They're mostly the IT wing of BJP. Indian equivalent of Republicans. Much more stupid and venom-spewing.
 
They're mostly the IT wing of BJP. Indian equivalent of Republicans. Much more stupid and venom-spewing.

Hope that's true man cause this does kind of affect my views about everyday Indians in a negative way and normally I am not like that
 
Notice how it's progressive leaders like Jagmeet, Corbyn and Bernie who have condemned India.
 
His campaign manager is Pakistani-American, so we know who is whispering in his ears. Either way, between him and Trump, I'll pick Trump any day over this radical socialist. It would be fun watching the Republicans tear into him if he comes up as the Democratic nominee.
 
Well your BJP leader himself threatened Bernie that his truth against Indian government has forced them to intervene in American elections. BJP fanatics have already been active in getting Trump re elected and of course they can play their part again to get a right wing extremist get elected in US that suits right wing extremists in India.

The comments on Bernie's tweets are pretty shocking; most Indians are not only calling Bernie a jihadi and terrorist but also saying that he is telling lies and it's actually Muslims who have initiated all the violence. Shocking at so many levels!
Nothing should shock you about whatever drivel that comes out of sanghis.
 
That tweet from BL Santosh (a senior sanghi) was so cringe worthy!

Do these sanghis ever think before opening their mouth? OR where they should not venture? Has the power gone so much into their garbage heads that they do not think what repercussions it may have on India's relations with US in future?

No wonder, he had to beat a hasty retreat!
 
Notice how it's progressive leaders like Jagmeet, Corbyn and Bernie who have condemned India.

Jagmeet is not in the same league as Bernie or Corbyn.
The guy didn’t condemn the Air India bomber for over 6 months that killed citizens of his own country.

Corbyn and Sanders are true progressive leaders.
 
Look at how nasty the comments are from Indians. Pathetic, these people get a little bit of money and power and they think they own the world. About time someone puts them in their place, I'm voting for Bernie this election.

So Indians have a bit of money and power. What do you have that you want to put them in their place? Who are you to put them in their place?

Bernie or non bernie, India wont be taking dictation on its internal matters from anyone. We are not a small country that runs on handouts that we will be bullied.

Regards to vote,Indians outnumber pakistanis by some margin in US.
 
That tweet from BL Santosh (a senior sanghi) was so cringe worthy!

Do these sanghis ever think before opening their mouth? OR where they should not venture? Has the power gone so much into their garbage heads that they do not think what repercussions it may have on India's relations with US in future?

No wonder, he had to beat a hasty retreat!

Did Bernie think before poking his nose into India's matters?
 
People like Sanders, Corbyn and Imran cannot be taken seriously. Luckily, only one of them has fluked his way into power.

The people of USA and England have better than sense than the people of Pakistan.
 
People like Sanders, Corbyn and Imran cannot be taken seriously. Luckily, only one of them has fluked his way into power.

The people of USA and England have better than sense than the people of Pakistan.

That's the biggest compliment you have paid to Imran Khan by putting him in the same bracket as Sanders.
 
Answer the question. If Bernie can so can any Indian.
What question? So you term someone commenting on loss of innocent lives as poking his/her nose in a country's internal matters?

Way to go! Kudos!
 
What question? So you term someone commenting on loss of innocent lives as poking his/her nose in a country's internal matters?

Way to go! Kudos!

Commenting? He berated Trump for not intervening.

Spin as much as you want. The pitch wont respond
 
There you go...

Bernie Saunders..... who??

Pathetic extremist
 
People like Sanders, Corbyn and Imran cannot be taken seriously. Luckily, only one of them has fluked his way into power.

The people of USA and England have better than sense than the people of Pakistan.

What a stupid post from an absolute idiot. Whilst the World condemns the barbaric violence, idiots like you are desperate to score points in the hope of derailing threads.
 
What a stupid post from an absolute idiot. Whilst the World condemns the barbaric violence, idiots like you are desperate to score points in the hope of derailing threads.

The world is condemning the violence, but people like you and other posters here are enjoying this because it presents you with an opportunity to criticize Modi.

Don’t think for one moment that others cannot see through the facade. Spare us the crocodile tears.

I am not interesting in point-scoring because I don’t care about what happens within India. It is an internal issue and it doesn’t affect me. This too shall pass.
 
For Indians, anyone who supports Pakistan is a radical lol.
What a deluded nation
 
Man all the Indians I meet are genuinely nice people than where are the guys who are making these nasty tweets coming from
Like I am genuinely perplexed who are these people and like I don't where is this cockiness coming from like what are they so proud of???

A lot of Indians are two-faced.
They act good infront of you but when they’re on the internet, they’re the ones calling everyone extremists
 
People like Sanders, Corbyn and Imran cannot be taken seriously. Luckily, only one of them has fluked his way into power.

The people of USA and England have better than sense than the people of Pakistan.

Don’t compare Sanders to Imran please
 
Bernie isn’t perfect but he’s honest, honourable and has good intentions. He’s a man of principle and held a lot of his current progressive views years ago unlike most fickle liberals. A lot of idiots will say he’s too idealistic but he’s extremely popular and has made an impact. Nothing he says is impossible to achieve.
 
Not to mention his excellent views on foreign policy and destructive American intervention in the past
 
The world is condemning the violence, but people like you and other posters here are enjoying this because it presents you with an opportunity to criticize Modi.

Don’t think for one moment that others cannot see through the facade. Spare us the crocodile tears.

I am not interesting in point-scoring because I don’t care about what happens within India. It is an internal issue and it doesn’t affect me. This too shall pass.

You’re right that all oppression should be called out but the fact that you choose to ignore and look away at any kind of cruelty simply because it has no affect on you is a pretty disgusting mindset to have
 
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] a post from reddit that sums up Bernies popularity pretty well

“ If he gets the nomination, in national polls he is currently polling ahead of Trump by anywhere from 5 to 10 points depending on the poll. A recent poll of non-white voters showed him beating Trump by a whopping 44 points. The news networks here in the US are having a sort of "Bernie blackout". The mainstream media moguls don't support him, so coverage is sparse and everybody is downplaying his chances, but metrics on the ground say different. Even though the first two contests in Iowa and New Hampshire carry small delegate numbers, they count a lot for purposes of establishing momentum. Biden is counting on a split decision in the first few races, with no real "top dog", as he thinks he has a firewall of sorts in the South, but if Bernie wins both Iowa (where recent polls show him in a strong second against flash-in-the-pan Buttigieg) and New Hampshire (where he consistently polls at the top), he's golden. He's already polling consistently in the lead in Nevada, the third primary and recently gained 7 points in polls in South Carolina to Bidens 3 point loss, cutting Biden's lead to single digits in that state. I would say, despite what you hear on the news that Bernie is doing quite well. He's been steady in the polls since he declared, with no big drops, enjoys a 75% approval rating (the highest of all the candidates) and is several people's second choice should their candidate not make it (important in caucus states). He is great at getting out new voter's and reluctant voters, which is important for Democrats - high turnout usually translates into more Democratic votes - so if he gets the nomination I would say his chances are excellent.”


Bernie is quite popular in the US nowadays which gives me some glimmer of hope when it comes to the political climate over there.
 
You’re right that all oppression should be called out but the fact that you choose to ignore and look away at any kind of cruelty simply because it has no affect on you is a pretty disgusting mindset to have

What will change if I don’t ignore it and make a few posts here to condemn it? Nothing. I just won’t get called out for my pathetic mindset.
 
If basic equality and rights for everyone regardless of their place in society plus fighting against the cancer that is late stage capitalism is idealism, then I too am an idealist.
 
Both are idealists. If Sanders comes into power, watch him back-track and take shameless U-turns like Imran after getting a dose of reality.

So in your opinion what is the right American political position? Voting for incompetent jokes like Trump or voting for neoliberal snake trash like Hillary and Biden.
 
One thing I learnt from mixing with Indians (both Hindus and Muslims) are to them religion doesnt come in between friendship or work. They would never support this.

Once an Indian friends mother came to UK. She kept saying how Hindus and Muslims live in harmony to me. Their neighbour hand made the favourite sweets for my mate the day he left to the UK and also sent some with his mother.

There will always be some imbeciles in every country for any religion.

I saw a Rajdeep Sardesai show called Ground Zero Delhi. It showed in many areas where Muslims and Hindus live in the same lane. The most touching part of the show was when this guy who runs a business on loan got his whole setup burnt. Also a Muslim fruit seller who had his set up burnt too. Felt really sad for the innocent people
 
The world is condemning the violence, but people like you and other posters here are enjoying this because it presents you with an opportunity to criticize Modi.

Don’t think for one moment that others cannot see through the facade. Spare us the crocodile tears.

I am not interesting in point-scoring because I don’t care about what happens within India. It is an internal issue and it doesn’t affect me. This too shall pass.

Yes it is and IK( and many others) warned the world that this would happen and raised the spectre of fascism in India and if anything he was too kind.
Its so heartening to see you come to poor Modis defence, the defenceless fascist whose policies of a bygone age you dont want condemned. Why dont you have a whip round and send him a card with the words like you are misunderstood and both sides are to blame etc.

They are crocodile tears to you because you take pride in Muslims being the subject of hate and violence. And also, Unlike a loser like you, i take pride in Islam and hate Modi with every Sinew of my body. This disgusting excuse of human being( and his supporters who are even more disgusting) need to be put on trial for War crimes.
And you dont care about India because it doesnt fit the narrative that you want to believe. If India is internal issue then why comment on Sanders and Corbyn? Arent they also internal issues. Its pathetic cop out to but its not a surprise, you are afterall a mental midget with no moral backbone.
 
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BJP could not influence Delhi elections, but they will influence USA Presidential elections?

Looks like they would like to try.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The general secretary of India's main political party threatened to interfere with the US election and subvert our democratic process.<br><br>That's outrageous from anyone, especially from an ally of the United States. <a href="https://t.co/y53kWcpFv1">https://t.co/y53kWcpFv1</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/USelections2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#USelections2020</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BJP?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BJP</a> <a href="https://t.co/OOLhJikHPc">pic.twitter.com/OOLhJikHPc</a></p>— Audrey Truschke (@AudreyTruschke) <a href="https://twitter.com/AudreyTruschke/status/1233033972386541568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2020</a></blockquote>
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One thing I learnt from mixing with Indians (both Hindus and Muslims) are to them religion doesnt come in between friendship or work. They would never support this.

Once an Indian friends mother came to UK. She kept saying how Hindus and Muslims live in harmony to me. Their neighbour hand made the favourite sweets for my mate the day he left to the UK and also sent some with his mother.

There will always be some imbeciles in every country for any religion.

I saw a Rajdeep Sardesai show called Ground Zero Delhi. It showed in many areas where Muslims and Hindus live in the same lane. The most touching part of the show was when this guy who runs a business on loan got his whole setup burnt. Also a Muslim fruit seller who had his set up burnt too. Felt really sad for the innocent people

And you fell for it? While it is true that "some" hindus and muslims can be good friends/neighbours but it is only possible when one bends over backwards (eg, a muslim giving up beef, or a hindu having no beef with beef) to please the other or there is fear of the danda. They can never coexist on equal terms and equal dignity.

The media (anti BJP ones), the state ( at least the pre BJP one) and bollywood try to sell this story of hindu muslims living in harmony, but they can only do so much to cover up the uncomfortable truth. The earlier indians come to terms with it, the better it will be for them.
 
So Indians have a bit of money and power. What do you have that you want to put them in their place? Who are you to put them in their place?

Bernie or non bernie, India wont be taking dictation on its internal matters from anyone. We are not a small country that runs on handouts that we will be bullied.

Regards to vote,Indians outnumber pakistanis by some margin in US.

He didn't give any direction to India on how to deal with internal matters. He is pointing out the fact that there has been some internal violence in India. His tweet was more about Trump not addressing the issue with Modi.

Second, India had been the highest recipient of US aid till 2015 and still receiving about $100 million in US handouts.

The last point clearly shows you, he isn't going to sugar coat anything for extra votes. He talks about what he believes is right.
 
The world is condemning the violence, but people like you and other posters here are enjoying this because it presents you with an opportunity to criticize Modi.

Don’t think for one moment that others cannot see through the facade. Spare us the crocodile tears.

I am not interesting in point-scoring because I don’t care about what happens within India. It is an internal issue and it doesn’t affect me. This too shall pass.

As if anyone need an opportunity to criticize draconian mindset?

No one is enjoying, condemnation and enjoying have totally different meaning. No one is enjoying the deaths.

Your commented here to score points against your fellow citizens. read again, slowly and then maybe you'll see it.
 
On Bernie, a Sanghi wrote this on this thread
Because they are not progressive. Their voters rejected them.
, as if you would know what progressive mean, you support draconian PM of the largest democracy. No need a lecture on what progressive ideology is.

Nothing is idealist about having universal health care, every developed country does it.

Nothing is idealist about having affordable education, every developed country provides it.

Nothing is idealist about having live-able wages, every developed country guaranteed it.
 
Both are idealists. If Sanders comes into power, watch him back-track and take shameless U-turns like Imran after getting a dose of reality.

Brah, you are making a fool out of yourself but it is intentional so you can re-live virtual reality you have created on this forum for yourself.

Understand what Bernie has been saying.
 
Would be interesting to see how this comment ages in 8 more months.

Based on current political environment in US, chances of Bernie or any candidate Democrats put up, will have slim chances. But if I’m proven wrong, then I’ll admit I was wrong but until then I stand by it.
 
So our self proclaimed :quote: atheist :quote: Indian expert on Islam fails to support Sanders condemnation of Hindutva ethnic cleansing. Big surprise there. Real big surprise.

Will never support atrocities against any minority in India or elsewhere.

The only reason Sanders even took time to give his opinion is because of Trump's visit to India.

Ethnic cleansing is a big word Captain Bribe man. Where is your evidence of ethnic cleansing? A dozen people killed(though deplorable) means Ethnic cleansing for you? :facepalm: There are 170 million Muslims in India ***.

What do you mean Self proclaimed? Everyone is self proclaimed when it comes to their beliefs. By the way, talking about Islam, not one proof to counter my arguments have been provided. You are a pukka believer in Islam who parades as a secular old man on this board. See anyone can accuse anyone.
 
Will never support atrocities against any minority in India or elsewhere.

The only reason Sanders even took time to give his opinion is because of Trump's visit to India.

Ethnic cleansing is a big word Captain Bribe man. Where is your evidence of ethnic cleansing? A dozen people killed(though deplorable) means Ethnic cleansing for you? :facepalm: There are 170 million Muslims in India ***.

What do you mean Self proclaimed? Everyone is self proclaimed when it comes to their beliefs. By the way, talking about Islam, not one proof to counter my arguments have been provided. You are a pukka believer in Islam who parades as a secular old man on this board. See anyone can accuse anyone.

Looks like I hit a nerve. Nothing wrong with talking about Islam my secular friend, you quote more scriptures than most Pakistanis here do. But at least a prod to your bottom got you to belatedly pipe up, if only to defensively claim there is no ethnic cleansing in India. It's only a few deaths, just a handful, highly exaggerrated, blah blah, etc.
 
Looks like I hit a nerve. Nothing wrong with talking about Islam my secular friend, you quote more scriptures than most Pakistanis here do. But at least a prod to your bottom got you to belatedly pipe up, if only to defensively claim there is no ethnic cleansing in India. It's only a few deaths, just a handful, highly exaggerrated, blah blah, etc.

No Sir. My posts have had an impact on you. Don't lie.

I post from Islamic scriptures to debunk the claims of some who post false information about Islam.

Again a dozen deaths(terrible as they are) does not mean ethnic cleansing.

Was the Godhra train burning which killed dozens of Hindus also ethnic cleansing? It was only about 50 Hindus that were killed (though highly deplorable).

Whappened in Burma against Rohingyas is ethnic cleansing. Not the Delhi riots.
 
No Sir. My posts have had an impact on you. Don't lie.

I post from Islamic scriptures to debunk the claims of some who post false information about Islam.

Again a dozen deaths(terrible as they are) does not mean ethnic cleansing.

Was the Godhra train burning which killed dozens of Hindus also ethnic cleansing? It was only about 50 Hindus that were killed (though highly deplorable).

Whappened in Burma against Rohingyas is ethnic cleansing. Not the Delhi riots.

Yes it is. The death toll is irrelevant.
Ethnic cleansing is systematic removal of an ethnic/religious group. As far as I know, the Delhi police has helped the rioters and even thrown a few stones on Muslims themselves. A bunch of Indian politicians including Amit Shah have openly called for removing the ’infiltrators’.

Your fake attempts at portraying yourself as a secularist and neutral goes out of the window everytime India and BJP/Hindutva in particular is being criticized.
 
Irrelevant what he thinks.

Seems as if you ran from the other thread after being shown your level. He is a candidate for the presidency of the most powerful country in the world, and soon might even be the front-runner for the office. His word has a lot more worth than any Indian.
 
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