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Best possible Pakistan team for Champions Trophy 2017

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This would be my pool of 23 players for champions trophy next year :

1. Hafeez
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Haris Sohail
4. Babar Azam
5. Umar Akmal
6. Malik
7. Sarfaraz Ahmed
8. Wahab Riaz
9. Amir
10. Sohail Khan
11. Asghar
12. Zafar Gohar
13. Junaid Khan
14. Fawad Alam
15. Sami Aslam
16. Rizwan
17. Fakhar Zaman
18. Maqsood
19. Yasir Shah
20. Ehsan Adil
21. Asif Ali
22. Nawaz
23. Asad Shafiq
 
Isn't this tournament too far in the future?

Lets just focus on the Asia Cup/ WT20 and the foreign tours after that..
 
No Mohammad Asif, Amad Butt, Saud Shakeel, Hasan Ali, Ahsan Ali, Sadaf Hussain, Altaf Ahmed Khan.

Strangeeeeee
 
Ideal team for Champions Trophy 2017

With the ODI series coming towards an end we have now had a good look at our squad and their capabilities. We have also seen how the team has performed without the players that apparently have poor attitude and to be honest it has performed below expectations.
Our ODI team is looking extremely behind the times and we must now look to rebuild in the very near future. With this in mind what will our ideal 11 be when the Champions Trophy comes around next summer?
My team would be:
Sharjeel
Shehzad
Umar Akmal
Babar
Haris if fit
Sarfraz (C)
Imad
Afridi/Yasir
Amir
Hassan
Wahab/Irfan/Sohail

People may be against Shehzad but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.
Obviously this team assumes Azhar is taken out of the side and Sarfraz becomes captain. With Umar I feel its now or never and he should be played at 3. If he can sort out his temperament he has all the talent to become one of the top players in the world. Obviously he is in last chance saloon now as he has had many chances before.

Hopefully Haris will be fit by the time it comes around as he is an important part of the middle order and if he is not then Rizwan should be replacement.
If Yasir can improve his ODI form ideally he would be the spinner to take us forward but if not I would recall Afridi as we are short of quality spin at the moment. We also lack a powerful hitter towards the end and Afridi scoring 26 of 13 not out today shows he still has it.
If Yasir can improve he would be an automatic selection, and it would be between Imad and Afridi, and I would be happy to go with Imad who has youth on his side.
Amir is an automatic selection, and Hassan will only get better so I see one fast bowling spot remaining for either Wahab/Sohail/Irfan.
 
My ideal team would be:

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail (if fit, otherwise Babar Azam)
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Imad Wasim
8. Umar Gul
9. Mohammad Irfan
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Zulfiqar Babar

Radical choice I know, but I'm a huge fan of experience as opposed to youth.
 
lol, that team isn't going take you anywhere buddy, except to no. 11 in the rankings.
 
Azhar*
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Sarfraz+
Maqsood
Akmal
Imad
Amir
Yasir
Gul
Sohail
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Babar
Hasan
Yamin
Rizwan
 
My ideal team would be:

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail (if fit, otherwise Babar Azam)
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Imad Wasim
8. Umar Gul
9. Mohammad Irfan
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Zulfiqar Babar

Radical choice I know, but I'm a huge fan of experience as opposed to youth.

If you want an experienced side, then go with this:

Mohammad Hafeez
Salman Butt
Asad Shafiq*
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal+
Shoaib Malik
Hammad Azam
Sohail Tanvir
Umar Gul
Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Sami
 
If you want an experienced side, then go with this:

Mohammad Hafeez
Salman Butt
Asad Shafiq*
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal+
Shoaib Malik
Hammad Azam
Sohail Tanvir
Umar Gul
Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Sami

This team could probably beat our current one.
 
If you want an experienced side, then go with this:

Mohammad Hafeez
Salman Butt
Asad Shafiq*
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal+
Shoaib Malik
Hammad Azam
Sohail Tanvir
Umar Gul
Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Sami

Yeah I like your selection. Only issues for me are the selection of Kamran Akmal and Mohammad Sami. Sami made a return and actually failed, so I'd prefer Irfan or Amir over him.
 
Have you seen Shehzad in national t20 cup? He cannot rotate strike at all even on flat tracks.
 
This would be my XI

1. Sharjeel (Opener) (Hard Hitter)
2. Sami/Azhar (if Sami performs before CT no point going with him if he fails in every match before CT)
3. Babar (Batsman) (Accumulator/Timer)
4. Imad Wasim (Batting Spin All-Rounder) (Accumulator for first 20 balls then aggressive batting)
5. Umair Masood (WK) (Accumulator for first 15 balls then hard hitter)
6. Amir Yamin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
7. Hasan Mohsin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
8. Amad Butt (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
9. Mohammad Amir (C) (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
10. Hasan Ali (Fast Bowler)
11. Zafar Gohar/Mohammad Ashgar (Slow Left Arm Spinner)
 
This would be my XI

1. Sharjeel (Opener) (Hard Hitter)
2. Sami/Azhar (if Sami performs before CT no point going with him if he fails in every match before CT)
3. Babar (Batsman) (Accumulator/Timer)
4. Imad Wasim (Batting Spin All-Rounder) (Accumulator for first 20 balls then aggressive batting)
5. Umair Masood (WK) (Accumulator for first 15 balls then hard hitter)
6. Amir Yamin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
7. Hasan Mohsin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
8. Amad Butt (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
9. Mohammad Amir (C) (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
10. Hasan Ali (Fast Bowler)
11. Zafar Gohar/Mohammad Ashgar (Slow Left Arm Spinner)

With this team we will have 7 bowling options! Our batting stretches to 9! Even Zafar can bat, hopefully Hasan comes good with the bat to! The oldest players in this team are Sharjeel and Imad 27! This team can be invested in for long and will eventually come good!
 
If you want an experienced side, then go with this:

Mohammad Hafeez
Salman Butt
Asad Shafiq*
Umar Akmal
Kamran Akmal+
Shoaib Malik
Hammad Azam
Sohail Tanvir
Umar Gul
Saeed Ajmal
Mohammad Sami

Probably better than the current lot but we need young and emerging players to invest in.
 
My ideal team would be:

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail (if fit, otherwise Babar Azam)
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Imad Wasim
8. Umar Gul
9. Mohammad Irfan
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Zulfiqar Babar

Radical choice I know, but I'm a huge fan of experience as opposed to youth.

Irfan is 34, Zulfiqar is 37, Gul is 32! What's the point of playing 3 players who won't even play in the 2019 WC!
 
This would be my XI

1. Sharjeel (Opener) (Hard Hitter)
2. Sami/Azhar (if Sami performs before CT no point going with him if he fails in every match before CT)
3. Babar (Batsman) (Accumulator/Timer)
4. Imad Wasim (Batting Spin All-Rounder) (Accumulator for first 20 balls then aggressive batting)
5. Umair Masood (WK) (Accumulator for first 15 balls then hard hitter)
6. Amir Yamin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
7. Hasan Mohsin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
8. Amad Butt (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
9. Mohammad Amir (C) (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
10. Hasan Ali (Fast Bowler)
11. Zafar Gohar/Mohammad Ashgar (Slow Left Arm Spinner)

You've got to be kidding me.

Hasan Mohsin is a batsman not a "all-rounder" nor a "batting all-rounder" and is worse then Rizwan when it comes playing spin and is as bad as Malik when facing genuine pace.

Umair Masood hasn't even established himself in Domestics and here we are trying to dump him in the deep end.

Sarfaraz is our best ODI bat and you've left him out.

C'mon man.
 
My team would be:

1. Mohammad Rizwan
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Babar Azam
4. Umar Akmal
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
6. Aamer Yamin
7. Mohammad Nawaz
8. Amad Butt
9. Hasan Ali
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Ehsan Adil
 
It has to be(being realistic knowing PCB)

1.S khan
2.Hafeez(I don't want him but he'll clear his bowling and come back)/Azhar(Atleas one of these 2 will stay as experienced)
3.Haris
4.Babar
5.Sarfraz
6.Akmal
7.Imad
8.Amir
9.Anwar ali
10.Gul/Wahab
11.Asghar

12.Sami
13.Rizwan
14.Wahab/Gul
15.Hasan ali


This is not my preferred squad though.Just being realistic.

Also we can't take So called all rounders

Amir is good enough to bat at 8

If we take half bowlers lik yamin,nawaz..we'll b chasing 350 every match

So if u hav WC all rounders take them.if not settle with specialists. .
 
1-Sharjeel Khan
2-Azhar Ali
3-Babar Azam
4-Harris Sohail
5-Sarfraz Ahmed
6-Umar Akmal
7-Imad Wasim
8-Amad Butt
9-Usama Mir
10-Amir
11-Gul/ Irfan
 
My ideal team would be:

1. Salman Butt (c)
2. Sharjeel Khan
3. Azhar Ali
4. Haris Sohail (if fit, otherwise Babar Azam)
5. Sarfraz Ahmed (wk)
6. Umar Akmal
7. Imad Wasim
8. Umar Gul
9. Mohammad Irfan
10. Mohammad Amir
11. Zulfiqar Babar

Radical choice I know, but I'm a huge fan of experience as opposed to youth.

Salman Butt as captain?? Let me read that again. Wow.
 
Why isn't anyone in favor of opening with sarfraz?

I think Sarfraz is better in the middle order. He rotates the strike very well and is perfect batting at no.4 or 5. He would be completely wasted at no.6. We need explosive batsmen like Sharjeel to open.


This would be my squad for CT 17 :
1. Sharjeel
2. Azhar/ Sami
3. Harris (if he still performs after his return)
4. Babar
5. Sarfraz (c)
6. Rizwan
7. Amad Butt / Imad Wasim
8. Asghar / Usama Mir / Bilal Asif
9. Amir
10 Sohail Khan
11 Junaid Khan / Ruman Raes

No more Wahab, Malik, Hafeez.
I heard Nasir Jamshed has been scoring some runs recently, so the selectors need to follow his performances closely. Same with Umar Akmal.
 
It has to be(being realistic knowing PCB)

1.S khan
2.Hafeez(I don't want him but he'll clear his bowling and come back)/Azhar(Atleas one of these 2 will stay as experienced)
3.Haris
4.Babar
5.Sarfraz
6.Akmal
7.Imad
8.Amir
9.Anwar ali
10.Gul/Wahab
11.Asghar

12.Sami
13.Rizwan
14.Wahab/Gul
15.Hasan ali


This is not my preferred squad though.Just being realistic.

Also we can't take So called all rounders

Amir is good enough to bat at 8

If we take half bowlers lik yamin,nawaz..we'll b chasing 350 every match

So if u hav WC all rounders take them.if not settle with specialists. .

Anwar Ali is a "WC" all-rounder?
 
We really need to work with what ever power hitters we have and back them. Heck
If lala can get 400 games, I am sure there are other lads in the circuit who deserve atleast 50 :)
This is what the modern ODI game needs and we must follow. We are already 5 years to late.

My XI
Sharjeel Khan
Nauman Anwar/Mukhtar Ahmad (both have a power game. Need to groomed and backed)
Babar Azam ( technically decent, rotates strike)
Umar Akmal (agressive. Plays his strokes)
Sarfaraz - Captain ( best batsmen currently)
Amir Yameen (pace bowler gets it in the low to mid 80s better batsmen than bowler, can play agressively as well and also no better choice)
Imad wasim (a fighter, gives it all and a decent player who can clear the ropes)
Amad butt (fast bowling all rounder - can hit the ball hard)
Kamran Ghulam (good spinner and hard hitter)
Mohd Amir ( no replacement. Our best bowler)
Sohail Khan (a fighter. Bowls in the right channels can bat a bit too)
 
Azhar
Sharjeel
Harris Sohail
Babar Azam
Sarfraz Ahmed
Nawaz
Imad
Amir Yamin
Ahmad Butt
Mohammad Amir
Rahat Ali/Ehsan Adil
 
[MENTION=1690]BoomBoomlegend[/MENTION]:

People may be against Shehzad but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Very funny reading this " best opener we have but need work on strike rotation". lol

Same can be said for Azhar ali , Sami Aslam and Asad Shafiq, just as follows

Azhar ali but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Asad Shafiq but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Sami Aslam but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.
 
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Anwar Ali is a "WC" all-rounder?

Did I ever mention dis..

Do try to comprehend.

Ridiculous! Most Ppers here, either they don't have reading or comprehending skills.

Or they just want to create controversies.

Go fly a kite!
 
People seems to have forgotten Mukhtar Ahmed.
He was quite powerful hitter
 
Hehe, Sami Aslam isnt LOI players, we will be destroying him in LOIs. Better should restrict him to Tests only.
 
who are the biggest power hitters in our domestic cricket? and when i mean power hitters i'm thinking top order batsmen who can be taught to be aggressive while smart too.

Everyone is looking at england and thinking well we can do the same but they forget that many of the batsmen were already good hitters in domestic cricket and for some reason were shackled in internatinal cricket. They were simply told to play like they do in domestics without fear of being dropped and they did. We dont have that luxury..s

so who do we have?? I want a top four that can slot into our top four
 
this would be my 15 this includes azhar ali, as it seems he will not be sacked

1) azhar ali (c)
2) sarfraz (wk)
3) sharjeel
4) Shehzad
5) Imam Ul Haq
6) Umar Akmal
7) Babar Azam
8) Sohaib Maqsood
9) Imad Wasim
10) m amir
11) Ehsan Adil
12) Sohail Khan
13) mohammad Ashgar
14) usama Mir
15) Zafar Gohar
 
[MENTION=1690]BoomBoomlegend[/MENTION]:



Very funny reading this " best opener we have but need work on strike rotation". lol

Same can be said for Azhar ali , Sami Aslam and Asad Shafiq, just as follows

Azhar ali but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Asad Shafiq but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Sami Aslam but he is the best opener we have. If he can work on strike rotation he would be the perfect modern day opener.

Difference being Shehzad can actually hit boundaries naturally. Although he doesnt rotate enough, he usually eases pressure with a boundary which is part of his natural game.
When it comes to Azhar and Sami, boundaries are not natural to them. They are test players who are not used to playing big shots. That is why when they struggle for rotation, they try to play a big shot and Sami doesnt look capable of clearing the boundary at all. With Azhar he can hit a boundary but looks so out of his comfort zone doing so and you can tell its not his game.
 
Akmal
Sharjeel
Azhar
Babar
Sarfaraz
Rizwan
Wasim
Nawaz
Amir
Hasan
Sohail khan
 
We need modern batsmen so I would have this:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Mukhtar Ahmed
3. Babar Azam
4. Umar Akmal
5. Sarfaraz
6. Imad Wasim
7. Zafar Gohar
8. Amad Butt
9. Amir
10. Sohail Khan
11. Hassan Ali
 
We need modern batsmen so I would have this:

1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Mukhtar Ahmed
3. Babar Azam
4. Umar Akmal
5. Sarfaraz
6. Imad Wasim
7. Zafar Gohar
8. Amad Butt
9. Amir
10. Sohail Khan
11. Hassan Ali

Ur team is ok but, u don't need two explosive openers and also Sarfraz is wasted at 5. Zafar cant bat at 7 either.
 
This would be my XI

1. Sharjeel (Opener) (Hard Hitter)
2. Sami/Azhar (if Sami performs before CT no point going with him if he fails in every match before CT)
3. Babar (Batsman) (Accumulator/Timer)
4. Imad Wasim (Batting Spin All-Rounder) (Accumulator for first 20 balls then aggressive batting)
5. Umair Masood (WK) (Accumulator for first 15 balls then hard hitter)
6. Amir Yamin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
7. Hasan Mohsin (Batting Pace Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
8. Amad Butt (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
9. Mohammad Amir (C) (Fast Bowling All-Rounder) (Hard Hitter)
10. Hasan Ali (Fast Bowler)
11. Zafar Gohar/Mohammad Ashgar (Slow Left Arm Spinner)

Batting is very shallow , just by saying they are all rounders , do not make them one.
 
I think, Azhar has bought his time till CT2017, so the team should include him & combination should accommodate him in playing XI.

It's a 15 member squad (I won't put players in position as that'll be determined by the role & playing condition), that we need to choose for a tournament in late May, early June. Wickets will be definitely flat, but in that season, in UK, ball swings on whatever surface. Therefore, PAK, shouldn't take too many spinners & must choose pacers for that particular condition.

My Squad is

Openers: 1. Sharjeel, 2. Babar, 15. Ahasn Ali (Wild Card, but worth taking, won't start)
Middle Order: 3. Azhar, 4. Umar Amin (He'll start in my playing XI, unreal potential if he can fulfil it), 14. Asad (too good to miss - Back up of Azhar)
WK: 5. Sarfu, 6. Umar (Back-up, both can play)
All-rounder: 7. Imad, 13. Yamin,
Spinner: 10. Yasir Shah (I'll take a leggi, I don't know anyone better)
Pacer: 8. Aamir, 12. Adil, 11. Sohail, 9. Aamad (Need a No. 8 who makes the team to bowl 10 overs, not sure if there is any one better)

The role I can see for Amin actually allows to play Imad over Yamin. Because that's giving possible 20 oers of spin - in case of gloomy weather, Amin can roll arm for few overs.

These side has a good mixture of attack & solidity in top 3 (Azhar has to improve his SR), while Amin & Sarfy at 4, 5 are good accumulator. Umar is the best player to bat at 6 - once Azhar leaves, he may come at 3). Imad, Aamir, Aamad, Yasir & Sohail/Adil gies quite a decent bottom half, if they really want to contribute with bat (capability is there). Asad is batting so well that had Azhar not been Captain, I would have definitely played him at 3. Babar must open (can swap spot with Azhar, but I want him to open).

In terms of bowling, we have couple of very good new ball pair & if it's a seem friendly condition, Imad'll make way for Yamin, that makes 40 overs of seem attack + Amin (much under rated bowler, at 6'1"; Miki should spank his *** twice a day to work on bowling & power hitting, I haven't seen a bigger idiot than this guy - he was equal or better than Ahmed, Umar, Usman, Shaan, Imad in that U19 team). On drier surface, Yasir & Imad gives 20 overs - if 2 lefti are chasing, Azhar must try Babar, so he needs spank in his bottom to bowl an hour every day in nets.

That's a wonderful balanced attack for every options - pace, seem, swing, dibly-dobley, leggi, offie, slao .... left/right combo ......... if only Azzu could use his bowlers..................

Ahsan is my choice of the day, tomorrow, I might pick Maqsood - doesn't matter, 15th man.
 
1) Sami Aslam
2) Sharjeel Khan
3) Haris Sohail
4) Babar Azam
5) Umar Akmal
6) Sarfaraz Ahmed (c) (wk)
7) Hammad Azam/Imad Wasim/Amir Yameen
8) Mohammad Amir
9) Junaid Khan
10) Mohammad Irfan
11) Usama Mir/Raza Hasan

Rizwan, Hafeez, Sadaf Hussain and Yasir will make the bench.
 
1.Sharjeel Khan
2.Ahmad Shahzad / Sami Aslam

3.Haris Sohail

4.Babar Azam
5.Umer Akmal / Sohaib Maqsood
6.Sarfraz (c)

7.Rizwan
8.Imad Wasim

9.Ammad Butt
10.Aamir
11.Hassan Ali / Ehsan Adil
 
1. Sharjeel Khan
2. Sami/Azhar
3. Babar Azam
4. Umar Amin/fast-scorer/Maqsood
5. Umar Akmal
6. Hitter
7. Batting allrounder, maybe Imad (stuck with him for now)
8. Hammad/Bilal Asif
9. Amir
10. Asghar
11. Sohail Khan

Others that I can think of for the squad:

Nawaz (poor, but PCB will stick with him), Kamran Ghulam, Zafar, Ahsan Ali/Nauman.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

I do not understood why no coach ever worked with Umar Amins Bowling. He could be a ganguly like bowler . On pitches where there is some swing , he can get wickets.
 
[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]

I do not understood why no coach ever worked with Umar Amins Bowling. He could be a ganguly like bowler . On pitches where there is some swing , he can get wickets.

One of the reasons PAK is 9th now. There is so much potential in Amin as 3rd seemer in UAE & 4th outside Asia that it's a no brainer, he should be invested for. Specially, the next 3 ICC events are in UK, UK & AUS. However, UAE wickets doesn't help PAK either - for a change, WY & staff did try to extract few overs from the permanent disable man Haris.



I saw Amin in 2010 in UK - in that wet season, he was swinging & seeming it like a regular bowler. Now he is physically stronger, probably an inch or two taller as well; no reason why he can't bowl 5/6 overs at 125km+ if there is movement available. In May-June, often these type of bowlers are ackward to face. Besides, the biggest problem of attacking a part-timer is that, only the batsman can lose. If he goes for 20 in 2 overs - don't bowl him there after & no shame in that, but if you get out to him, every one'll make you feel that you have thrown a wicket.


Besides, he is a lefti middle order, which is essential these days. If you look at my team, it has 1, 4, 7 & 9 lefti batsman - 40 to 45 overs, PAK might irritate the bowling side with constant change in field, bowling line. He is brilliant fielder, very good runner & one of the most agile man in field when fit and he can loft effortlessly; you'll hardly see Amin to put blind swing to clear the ropes. People always say that PAK plays old version of cricket - but they can't play the contemporary game without picking players that can be mould into multidimensional players.
 
One of the reasons PAK is 9th now. There is so much potential in Amin as 3rd seemer in UAE & 4th outside Asia that it's a no brainer, he should be invested for. Specially, the next 3 ICC events are in UK, UK & AUS. However, UAE wickets doesn't help PAK either - for a change, WY & staff did try to extract few overs from the permanent disable man Haris.



I saw Amin in 2010 in UK - in that wet season, he was swinging & seeming it like a regular bowler. Now he is physically stronger, probably an inch or two taller as well; no reason why he can't bowl 5/6 overs at 125km+ if there is movement available. In May-June, often these type of bowlers are ackward to face. Besides, the biggest problem of attacking a part-timer is that, only the batsman can lose. If he goes for 20 in 2 overs - don't bowl him there after & no shame in that, but if you get out to him, every one'll make you feel that you have thrown a wicket.


Besides, he is a lefti middle order, which is essential these days. If you look at my team, it has 1, 4, 7 & 9 lefti batsman - 40 to 45 overs, PAK might irritate the bowling side with constant change in field, bowling line. He is brilliant fielder, very good runner & one of the most agile man in field when fit and he can loft effortlessly; you'll hardly see Amin to put blind swing to clear the ropes. People always say that PAK plays old version of cricket - but they can't play the contemporary game without picking players that can be mould into multidimensional players.

Yes , I remember that series. Amin really got the ball to swing. It reminded me of Time that Kallis opened the bowling because he could swing it. ( I am not comparing them in terms of ability ).

What do you think would be good position for Amin to bat ?
 
Don't care about batting as it's boring to watch but for bowling fast bowlers should be: Amir, Asif, Ghulam Mudasir/Khusro, Ali Imran Pasha/ Zia ul Haq.
 
Yes , I remember that series. Amin really got the ball to swing. It reminded me of Time that Kallis opened the bowling because he could swing it. ( I am not comparing them in terms of ability ).

What do you think would be good position for Amin to bat ?

Ideally 3, but I can't hide Azhar below. Also, in early summer, may be its better to have one solid block in top 3. Amin should bat at 4 or 5, depending on where Sarfu is more comfortable, but I think, he'll like to bat at 5 - so Amin bats at 4.

For some reason, if Azhar misses out, still Asad should bat at 3; otherwise, for anyone else, Amin at 3.

Jaques at 23 was faster than Pollock, but he went for durability & converted into a swing bowler. Amin was never that faster, but his grip & seem position are better than many PAK regular pacers. Few years back, when PAK was really struggling for openers (after Butt, Farhat & Toufiq left) Ahmed took the chance & cemented his place. People in PAK cricket are as dumb as you can get, when it comes to career plan of a young batsman - otherwise Amin could have been a solid Test & LO opener, had he converted into one in that time.
 
Sohail Khan is needed for the Champions Trophy. Only quality new ball bowler in the country.
 
We're in March, some 2 - 3 months away from the second biggest ODI tourney and no closer to a solid combination. We are just starting to try out young players like Sadab and Fakhar (no idea why Hassan Khan misses and Asghar makes it in), Hafeez, Malik and all the "oldies" are in and out of form, Kamran has made a come back lol and Shehzad is back...with no idea on how he will perform. Not to mention Pakistan's best bowler is consistently being left out of teh shorter formats because of this notion in Pakistani circles that "he isn't an ODI bowler".

There are only 2 Pakistan players that fill me with confidence in ODIs and these are the only 2 who would be a lock for the Champs trophy: Babar and Amir. Even the captain is hapless with the bat at times and has only 2 substantial scores in match winning efforts in the last 5 or 6 ODI innings. Oh and his keeping, which is his main job, is no better than Kamran was a few years ago. That's not a good thing folks.
 
Sohail Khan is needed for the Champions Trophy. Only quality new ball bowler in the country.

Unfit, slow, expensive, inaccurate and a terrible fielder to boot. No thanks. Amir, Junaid, Hassan and Riaz should be our four-pronged attack. Imad Wasim the sole spinner, with Hafeez and Malik helping out, if selected.

My CT team from the squad selected for the WI tour:

1) Kamran
2) Fakhar
3) Babar
4) Hafeez
5) Sarfaraz
6) Malik
7) Imad
8) Amir
9) Riaz
10) Hassan
11) Junaid

We really did need Sharjeel and Umar in this team to add some firepower but those tools had other ideas. Babar Azam will be carrying the batting on his back but the bowling looks pretty solid.
 
^ A better option than the useless Chucker any day. Junaid over Sohail is a terrible decision, who will continue to waste the new ball in England with his inability to swing the ball. Sohail is the best new ball bowler at our disposal at the moment, and the ball will swing in England in June.
 
^ A better option than the useless Chucker any day. Junaid over Sohail is a terrible decision, who will continue to waste the new ball in England with his inability to swing the ball. Sohail is the best new ball bowler at our disposal at the moment, and the ball will swing in England in June.

with you on this though im not sure it will swing much. but yes on one of the 10.30 starts it is a bit overcast i would wanna go with sohail amir n hassan as my quicks.
azhar ali may also have been a decent pick because i do fear the 10-3 occurrences if we are batting in the early start and it is a bit overcast
 
Azhar*
Sharjeel
Hafeez
Sarfraz+
Maqsood
Akmal
Imad
Amir
Yasir
Gul
Sohail
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Babar
Hasan
Yamin
Rizwan

And just 6 months down the road, majority of these players aren't even around the setup.

Pakistan cricket for you.
 
Shehzad
K Akmal
Babar
Hafeez
Sarfraz
Malik
Imad
Amir
Wahab
Sohail
Hasan Ali
 
Lol there will be at least one shock in the squad. Look at how Manzoor was selected for the t20 World Cup. :)))
 
And just 6 months down the road, majority of these players aren't even around the setup.

Pakistan cricket for you.

The only one that was a shocker is Sharjeel.

The rest had it coming. Azhar, Junior and Yasir were always on limited time (in ODIs) so not surprised at all they are no longer around.
 
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