Blame the system and management of the PCB, not the clueless players

[FearlessRoar]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

 

[shortbread]

Agreed with what you're saying, BUT the players also share some of the blame for being more committed to their T20 mercenary careers than being focused on being full time multi format international cricketers.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Agreed with what you're saying, BUT the players also share some of the blame for being more committed to their T20 mercenary careers than being focused on being full time multi format international cricketers.

It's also due to a useless system and poor management. Actually we can say lack of discipline in the system.

 

[shortbread]

It's also due to a useless system and poor management. Actually we can say lack of discipline in the system.

Not just that, but players finding comfort in the ease of T20 league cricket where they do not need to push themselves physically or maintain the harsh discipline to be an international cricketer, and showing little intent in improving themselves in the longer formats of the game. Many of these individual choices were taken with selfish motives than for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. For eg. the nations premier batsman Babar Azam now looks like a soft toy version of himself. The players definitely need to accept blame for that, but yes in the grand scheme of things this mess is primarily down to PCB's incompetence.

 

[Devadwal]

No Pakistan fans are habbit of blaming PCB rather than PCT players

Not a single reason why PCT not won the series due to PCB management.

They dropped Shaheen as fans were wanted but at the end Pakistan lost the series 2-0 .

Babar is avarage player but PCT fans are hyping him too much. he is at best play supportive role in ODI formats thats it.

Reason why Pakistan are/ were losing home test series because they dont have any quality spinner's.

From 22-6 Bangladesh' scored 260+ , all thanks to useless, overhyped Abrar Ahmed.

Untill Pakistan don't find quality spinners they will lose series at home regularly .

 

[Rana]

Yeah I guess the management is wrong for hiring Kirsten and Gillespie, which lead to Babar scoring 40 off 40 against USA

 

[FearlessRoar]

Not just that, but players finding comfort in the ease of T20 league cricket where they do not need to push themselves physically or maintain the harsh discipline to be an international cricketer, and showing little intent in improving themselves in the longer formats of the game. Many of these individual choices were taken with selfish motives than for the betterment of Pakistan cricket. For eg. the nations premier batsman Babar Azam now looks like a soft toy version of himself. The players definitely need to accept blame for that, but yes in the grand scheme of things this mess is primarily down to PCB's incompetence.

Well said bro. and we know about those players, don't we? Imad Wasim and Mohammad Amir - it's crystal clear that they don't want to play for Pakistan anymore. So, why were we begging them to play for us? Why didn't we produce a long-term replacement for them?

 

[zaidihusain]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

PCB must be blamed but the players who got consistent opportunities and all facilities since last 5-8 years must accept bigger blame. If you see 80% of the players like Babar, Shan, Shadab, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf, Iftekhar, Imam are in setup since last 5-10 years and most of them were first choice players in the team.

During last 4-5 years careers of many players were destroyed or cut short because of clear favoritism and inconsistent section policies. I have added year of debut against each player, and you can check these players have played most of matches without getting dropped unless injured.

Babar (2015), Iftekhar (2015), Shan (2013), Rizwan (2015), Fakhar (2017), Imam (2017), Shaheen (2018), Shadab (2017), Naseem (2019), Haris Rauf (2020)

I don't believe these players have any right to blame PCB for their failures

 

[RidiculousMan]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

 

[Cricket Warrior]

failure of this system causing all these issues because its working like a factory from where we are getting all these players so we have to concentrate on the production level and fix the issues there not on the management level.

 

[FearlessRoar]

PCB must be blamed but the players who got consistent opportunities and all facilities since last 5-8 years must accept bigger blame. If you see 80% of the players like Babar, Shan, Shadab, Rizwan, Fakhar, Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf, Iftekhar, Imam are in setup since last 5-10 years and most of them were first choice players in the team.

During last 4-5 years careers of many players were destroyed or cut short because of clear favoritism and inconsistent section policies. I have added year of debut against each player, and you can check these players have played most of matches without getting dropped unless injured.

Babar (2015), Iftekhar (2015), Shan (2013), Rizwan (2015), Fakhar (2017), Imam (2017), Shaheen (2018), Shadab (2017), Naseem (2019), Haris Rauf (2020)

I don't believe these players have any right to blame PCB for their failures

I'll still blame the system because PCB gave them consistent chances without accountability. For example, Haris Rauf is a mediocre bowler but got polished in between 2021-2022. Then again, the same poor performance because PCB was not holding him accountable. PCB even reinstated his central contract due to pressure from just a franchise of PSL. PCB didn't focus on the fitness of players. They just said, whatever is going on is fine, boys have talent. PCB has no clear policy whoever feels like playing Test cricket plays and whoever doesn't, doesn't. In T20I cricket, we have players, but in ODIs and Tests, we don't have players.

PCB has no policy which raw product to pick from where and how to prepare them for which format, what process to follow, and how to make its implementation mandatory.

Whatever needs to be fixed is the system and management. We are always told to fix the grassroots level but the real problem is the system and management.

 

[ghalib kichlu]

Wasim khan quit
Ramiz raja wasnt good enough
Sethi was only a journalist

Similarly we keep going back to Arthur and azhar every 6 months when things go bad again

 

[FearlessRoar]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

Bro you've done a great job categorizing the issues.Your summary accurately pinpoints the key problems and shedding light on the underlying disease that's been plaguing Pakistan cricket.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

The players are clueless and need to be blamed as well. Did anyone ask Bahar and company to eat everything in India, go to howdy Texas IN US and behave like unleashed tourists?

 

[mominsaigol]

Well the Management is 100% at fault.

They appointed Misbah who burnt the t20 side into a corpse and made Babar captain

Then came ramiz who burnt domestic cricket

Then came naqvi who burnt everything into the ground.

Don't forget Imran Khan as well

 

[Misia]

Players are now exploiting that bad/corrupt system so now we have a vicious cycle where petty much 90/95% is working to exploit for its personal gain

 

[Rana]

Well the Management is 100% at fault.

They appointed Misbah who burnt the t20 side into a corpse and made Babar captain

Then came ramiz who burnt domestic cricket

Then came naqvi who burnt everything into the ground.

Don't forget Imran Khan as well

Wasim Khan is getting away Scot free here.

He’s played a HUGE role in this player power and overhyping player issue you have right now

 

[mominsaigol]

Wasim Khan is getting away Scot free here.

He’s played a HUGE role in this player power and overhyping player issue you have right now

Yeah him too

 

[Misia]

Time to get really strict
3 SEPERATE CAPATAINS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Red Ball Domestic structure comes first
NOC only if you play RED BALL DOMESTIC (tied in with all centrally contracted players)
PSL will not guarantee selection UNLESS THEY LOOK AT FORCING THEM TO USE PLAYERS FROM WITHIN PAKISTAN YOUNGER GENERATION MORE, so far, the owners/teams/captains want to win and we get the run of the mill foreign players the usual star players and odd new player, decrease both foreign and usual stars increase new players in a way that the must use the new players batting bowling

 

[zaidihusain]

I'll still blame the system because PCB gave them consistent chances without accountability. For example, Haris Rauf is a mediocre bowler but got polished in between 2021-2022. Then again, the same poor performance because PCB was not holding him accountable. PCB even reinstated his central contract due to pressure from just a franchise of PSL. PCB didn't focus on the fitness of players. They just said, whatever is going on is fine, boys have talent. PCB has no clear policy whoever feels like playing Test cricket plays and whoever doesn't, doesn't. In T20I cricket, we have players, but in ODIs and Tests, we don't have players.

PCB has no policy which raw product to pick from where and how to prepare them for which format, what process to follow, and how to make its implementation mandatory.

Whatever needs to be fixed is the system and management. We are always told to fix the grassroots level but the real problem is the system and management.

Agree. The biggest failure of PCB was providing free ride to many undeserving players who failed repeatedly. PCB has failed to take timely action on certain players and it has also failed to control player power. Yes, they also have no policy for player development from grassroot level

 

[FearlessRoar]

The real issue lies with the Pakistan Cricket Board's dysfunctional system and management

Since August 2021, we've had four different chairmen, each bringing their own brand of chaos. Ramiz Raja, Najam Sethi, Zaka Ashraf, and now Mohsin Naqvi have all contributed to the mess. It's like a never-ending game of musical chairs, with each new chairman undoing the work of the previous one.

The result? A team in disarray, with no clear direction or strategy. We've had multiple head coaches, selectors, and support staff, each with their own ideas and agendas. No wonder our players look confused and frazzled.

The PCB's obsession with change has meant that entire coaching systems and strategies have been discarded like trash. Misbah-ul-Haq, Saqlain Mushtaq, Mickey Arthur, and Mohammad Hafeez have all had their stints as head coach, but with no consistency or continuity.

And don't even get me started on the selectors. We've had a revolving door of chief selectors, including Shahid Afridi, Haroon Rasheed, and Wahab Riaz. No wonder we've used more players than any other team since August 2021.

The players are not the problem. it's the system that's failing them. Babar Azam and Shaheen Afridi, two of our most valuable players, have been unsettled by the constant changes.

 

[Muhammad Saad]

Nothing to do with PCB or anything , Our youth is no longer interested in cricket anymore due to the lack of chances to earn well and progress well as a junior cricketer plus in this sport favoritism and nepotism also makes things difficult for youth players plus people can't afford to send their kids to cricket academies when they have no food on the table.

 

[gibsyhesperis]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

Excellent summary — the PCB is now as inept as the West Indies board were a while ago.
It is no surprise the players are insecure, play for themselves annd are always looking over their shoulders.

To be honest, a dysfunctional board in a country that has been somewhat dysfunctional for years.
Add to this list the Champions Trophy — a ridiculous vanity project from the current Chair where mentors are allegedly paid a huge sum for no good reason.
Why does each new Chair feel they have to do something to prove “their legacy” ?
Just think what that money could have done to improve grassroots cricket, go to the regions etc

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Rightly said.

Always the players come under knife. The government, the state, PCB executives and the bureaucracy within stay or just shuffle positions.

1. Who made Babar captain, then removed him, then brought Shaheen, then removed Shaheen to bring Babar again? Who created this rift between them?
2. Who misdiagnosed Ihsanullah and many other pacers who are still in rehab?
3. Who is responsible for hiring Dr. Sohail again after knowing his track record with players in PCB?
4. Who was leaking the captain's messages and running campaigns through 2 cents journalists during Pakistan's 2023 World Cup campaign?
5. Who did corruption during the tickets sale during Pakistan v New Zealand series and before that?
6. Who fast tracked Shaheen when he got injured the first time and hasn't been able to achieve full fitness yet?
7. Who makes our pacers who get injured drop their pace by 5-10KPHs while other countries continue to rehab their pacers successfully without dropping the pace? E.g. Archer and Bumrah.
8. Who fails to address bowling mechanic problems early on and domestic Cricket. Allowing players like Usman Tariq to play PSL first, then call on his action mid way before making him clear and play play-offs. With the end result being that he is now not allowed to bowl in domestic, not getting selected in the Champions Cup?
9. Who changes the domestic structure every season?
10. Who allows Chairman PCB to come unopposed, un-elected everytime?
11. Who doesn't ask Chairman PCB to layout a clear roadmap and vision for Pakistan Cricket after first ensuring him of his tenure duration?
12. Who makes the two league NOC policy, allows player to participate in that many leagues and then restrict the players or make them pull out during the league all while damaging the player's relation with the league?
13. Who brings new coach every few months or other events?
14. Who allows player to slack under fitness and make compromises to keep players in?
15. Who runs the actual things in National High Performance center and goes accountable every time?
16. Who is always planning and conspiring to change captain before, during and after every series/event?

PCB is just too pathetic. How can they fix cricket in Pakistan as they are not the doctors but the disease plaguing PCT

 

[zarak]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

Shaheen Afridi was nurtured, Babar was nurtured, Shadab was nurtured, Nawaz was nurtured. These guys have been coming to the NCA from their early teens. Who told them not to evolve their skill sets. Why has Babar not evolved beyond minnow bashing and run a ball fifties. Why is Shaheen bowling 130kph full tosses, why has Shadab deteriorated to the point that he is just a pie chucker.

These guys have been given chances but they lack the mentality and humility to build on their initial success. Only good for Panther Tires.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

PCB is just too pathetic. How can they fix cricket in Pakistan as they are not the doctors but the disease plaguing PCT

bhai they aren't just doctors... they are surgeons and a major surgery is about to happen in the year 2045.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

bhai they aren't just doctors... they are surgeons and a major surgery is about to happen in the year 2045.

Mohsin Naqvi's grandson will oversee it

 

[pakistani pride]

No excuse for being unfit.
Babar and Naseem, the 2 so called best bat and bowler are unfit and fitness is regressing big time of both.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Speaking during a recent media interaction, Younis Khan said:

"Departmental cricket has always supported players. I myself was able to play cricket because of UBL. The PCB needs to work on reviving departmental cricket, alongside promoting club cricket."

"It feels like sometimes the PCB doesn’t know its own identity. Even grocery vendors and fruit sellers know who should be the captain and coach, but it seems like the PCB doesn’t."

"Players like me shouldn’t be kept away from the PCB. I’m willing to train players for free if it helps improve the domestic structure."

 

[FearlessRoar]

the communication gap

https://twitter.com/x/status/1841508518215512192

 

[FearlessRoar]

When you don't have consistency in PCB management, how can you expect good performance from players?

 

[Rana]

Naqvi should be thrown into out because Pakistan Cat A players (2 out of 3) are currently 67-5 on a pitch where England scored 800

 

[Energy]

When you don't have consistency in PCB management, how can you expect good performance from players?

Irrespective of the management, there are 7-8 players in the XI who are playing all forms of cricket for years and have enough experience under all conditions.

If Shaheen, Naseem cannot take responsibility with the ball and Babar, Rizwan cannot take responsibility with the bat then it's the players who are at fault. The management should not be paying their salaries- that's something I'd suggest them to do.

 

[RidiculousMan]

When you don't have consistency in PCB management, how can you expect good performance from players?

Maybe Chairman needs to leak some more messages with the captain. Like Zaka with with Babar

 

[Savak]

Irrespective of the management, there are 7-8 players in the XI who are playing all forms of cricket for years and have enough experience under all conditions.

If Shaheen, Naseem cannot take responsibility with the ball and Babar, Rizwan cannot take responsibility with the bat then it's the players who are at fault. The management should not be paying their salaries- that's something I'd suggest them to do.

The players need to be held accountable. They have not justified their salaries and price tags for a long time now. The PCB has been too soft and friendly to the players for a long time now.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Three different coaches parted ways with Pakistan team in the last 18 months

Grant Bradburn May 2023 to November 2023
Mohammad Hafeez November 2023 to February 2024
Gary Kirsten April 2024 to October 2024

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Also blame the ex players, the incompetent gang

 

[FearlessRoar]

Shoaib Malik, while speaking on a show on a media platform:

"We are looking at the Indian cricket team, not just the national team, but if we go a little back, the policies of their cricket board have been very consistent."

"If there is a tournament or any policy made on anything, there is consistency in it, which is clearly visible. Whatever policies are made, they stick to them consistently. Because of this, the end result is that when their old players are playing, or when a new player comes in and plays alongside the experienced ones, you don’t see much difference."

"It shows that their [Indian Cricket] policies are very consistent. When your policies are consistent, your results will also be consistent."

"A lot of changes have happened [within PCB], a lot of changes. But I have my association with it, and I have sat in many meetings. Things have improved a lot. I won’t say that everything is perfect—things are not perfect—but they have improved significantly. And I am very hopeful that, Insha’Allah, in the next year, if things continue the same way, if the same chairman and the same people remain in charge, things will get much better."

 

[pakistani pride]

PCB does not force our paper tigers to run around the world to play every single T20 match.
PCB does not force them to skip red ball cricket or actual work on their game.

Its their pathetic mindset which is the issue.
Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Inzi, Saeed Anwar all also had to deal with PCB, but they still performed.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Cheteshwar Pujara emphasizes the need for Pakistan to back its youngsters and believes a proper system would develop them into much better players.

Do you agree with his take?

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Shoaib Malik, while speaking on a show on a media platform:

"We are looking at the Indian cricket team, not just the national team, but if we go a little back, the policies of their cricket board have been very consistent."

"If there is a tournament or any policy made on anything, there is consistency in it, which is clearly visible. Whatever policies are made, they stick to them consistently. Because of this, the end result is that when their old players are playing, or when a new player comes in and plays alongside the experienced ones, you don’t see much difference."

"It shows that their [Indian Cricket] policies are very consistent. When your policies are consistent, your results will also be consistent."

"A lot of changes have happened [within PCB], a lot of changes. But I have my association with it, and I have sat in many meetings. Things have improved a lot. I won’t say that everything is perfect—things are not perfect—but they have improved significantly. And I am very hopeful that, Insha’Allah, in the next year, if things continue the same way, if the same chairman and the same people remain in charge, things will get much better."

He's the mentor for one of the domestic teams & is getting a decent pay check. Such statements mean nothing.

Pak cricket is at a terrible place, possibly after the 80s we are at our lowest. The decline is continuous & alarming. We don't have replacements for players like Imran, Wasim which is ok because they were ATGs but we don't even have players who can replace Afridi or Hafeez.

 

[Snowflake]

Pakistan's problem lies in the team culture and mindset.

The culture right now lets players prioritize individual performance over team performance.

A ruthless culture, like that of Aus and Ind, where team performance is supreme is what Pakistan needs. Individuals, who do not play as per this mindset, need to be told exactly that.

Push players to play impactful innings - not innings that only help them secure their place in the side.

 

[FearlessRoar]

Sana Mir, while speaking on a local media outlet show:

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Too much power is not good, and too little power is also not good. When we talk about the entire system, we need to approach it with the mindset that I have a domain, and I have to take others along with me. A system will only be built when we move away from personality-based systems where one person has all the power and does everything. Otherwise, the system will never change."

"Unfortunately, whenever changes have happened in the PCB, they have mostly happened in a way where one person comes in and decides how domestic cricket should be run. The ones below don’t say anything."

"When departmental cricket was shut down, I raised the most noise because while men’s cricket suffered, our entire nursery was wiped out. The performances of women’s cricket declined because our contracts are only given to 20 players, and even those are not structured in a way that allows them to become proper professional cricketers."

"Why didn’t more people speak against the system? The few who did were slowly sidelined. We lack tolerance, whereas a healthy system, a healthy culture in any organization, allows for disagreement. Unfortunately, that does not exist within this organization. Until we address this issue as a whole, we will keep focusing only on players. We have all been players; we have experienced these things."

"Some players are at fault for being reluctant to change. But at the same time, it is necessary to promote a healthy culture where, despite differences of opinion, we can still work with each other."

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Yeah I guess the management is wrong for hiring Kirsten and Gillespie, which lead to Babar scoring 40 off 40 against USA

Kirsten joined the team not even a week he had to work with and he was given a team where they changed the captaincy and also brought back IMad and Amir from nowhere , when they played USA...
He couldnt even play his part for 1 series as a coach, but discarded for someone like Aaqib who wants all power...
Look what this buff**n did now, selected players from nowhere , dropped players from a winning unit, no spinner , no opener , made Babar to open and lost thrice against NZL and lost against India miserably , couldnt even compete at all...

The avg of pace bowling unit is 50+ for a wicket...

When they defeated Australia and SA , i thot the selection committee is doing good..
They selected Arafat Minhas, Faisal Akram , Sufyan Muqeem and Abraar Ahmed.thot thats the plan for CT2025 then ended up throwing everyone and going with Abraar who is not conventional spinner... also Sajid and Noman doing great in home series..

 

[Savak]

These players have been around 2016-2017. They should absolutely be blamed and taken to the cleaners.

 

[Asif321]

Lol what system . These bunch of craps were given 7 years and still failed .

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Sana Mir, while speaking on a local media outlet show:

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Too much power is not good, and too little power is also not good. When we talk about the entire system, we need to approach it with the mindset that I have a domain, and I have to take others along with me. A system will only be built when we move away from personality-based systems where one person has all the power and does everything. Otherwise, the system will never change."

"Unfortunately, whenever changes have happened in the PCB, they have mostly happened in a way where one person comes in and decides how domestic cricket should be run. The ones below don’t say anything."

"When departmental cricket was shut down, I raised the most noise because while men’s cricket suffered, our entire nursery was wiped out. The performances of women’s cricket declined because our contracts are only given to 20 players, and even those are not structured in a way that allows them to become proper professional cricketers."

"Why didn’t more people speak against the system? The few who did were slowly sidelined. We lack tolerance, whereas a healthy system, a healthy culture in any organization, allows for disagreement. Unfortunately, that does not exist within this organization. Until we address this issue as a whole, we will keep focusing only on players. We have all been players; we have experienced these things."

"Some players are at fault for being reluctant to change. But at the same time, it is necessary to promote a healthy culture where, despite differences of opinion, we can still work with each other."

Lol performance of women's cricket? What performance is she taking about?

 

[usman.sandhu]

The Pakistan cricket team's struggles are often blamed on the players, but the truth is that the PCB's system and management are responsible.

A cricket board's main job is to find and develop new talent into top players. Cricket Australia's success with Steve Smith, who went from an average spin bowler to a great batter, shows that a good system works.

Similarly, the ECB's investment in young players has produced greats like Joe Root and Ben Stokes, who were once new but are now legends.

In contrast, the PCB's system has failed to develop talent due to poor programs, bad decisions, and a lack of planning. The board's focus on building a player pool from the PSL, rather than strengthening the domestic structure, has left players unprepared for international cricket.

Usman Khawaja, an Australian batter of Pakistani descent, has been vocal in numerous interviews about the need for stability within the PCB.

The PCB's management makes poor decisions, with frequent changes in coaches, selectors, and team management. This instability hurts player morale and performance. To fix Pakistan cricket, the PCB must admit its mistakes and fix the system. It's clear that 90% of the blame lies with the system and management, and only 10% with the players. We need to stop blaming players and fix the system.

If after playing international cricket for 5-7+ years on average, the likes of Babar and Rizwan cannot score and SSA, Haris Rauf & Naseem cannot take wickets or stem the flow of runs, how is the board responsible for this..

The board has its own issues, which need to be addressed and fixed, but turning out pathetic performances in the past 3 ICC events is majorly on the players, they have no desire to improve and show no spirit in the way they play..

Absolutely pathetic bunch, COWARDS is the right word to describe them..

Work Ethic - zero
Fitness - zero
Skill - 3/10
Media hype - 11/10

Do you think BCCI tells Virat to watch his diet and work on his fitness? Or asks Ravindra Jadeja to follow a regime to stay agile as he gets older...?

Do you think BCCI asks Shami and Burma to work on their pace and swing?

Players take pride in playing of their country, they put their heart and soul into this, they do whatever it takes to be competitive at the top level.. and most of all they don't fear losing, they fight and give it their all...

Our pathetic players are cowards, they have no idea how to build an innings or take wickets... all they think about is which ad campaign do they want to be a part of next...

If we have any dignity left, we must get rid of Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Haris and Naseem - we cannot carry these cowards anymore..

 

[Slim]

Always blame chairmans, management but never the third class players.

Classic deluded pakistani cricket fans.

 

[themens]

These players have been around 2016-2017. They should absolutely be blamed and taken to the cleaners.

Absolutely they should be blamed and taken to the cleaners but...

Why have you given them the ability to be around since 2016-17?

Why do you keep picking them?

Why have you allowed the core players, who have not performed in so long, to be so powerful within the setup?

Is it not up to management or selectors to make a tough call and see what the rest of the talent pool looks like or is this really the best we have?

We have kids that look good for a few games/spells and then completely fall off a cliff... Why are you not able to capitalize on their talent and mold them into consistent match winners?

There is something seriously wrong with the culture of Pakistan Cricket that I don't see improving any time soon I'm sorry

 

[emranabbas]

These players have been around 2016-2017. They should absolutely be blamed and taken to the cleaners.

Need to go back to old days burning effigies and throwing stones at players house

 

[Xoib]

You disrespect test cricket and your white ball game will suffer. Our pacers have shown no spine to grind it at test cricket hence they have stagnated in skills, fitness and bowling smarts

 

[JaDed]

You disrespect test cricket and your white ball game will suffer. Our pacers have shown no spine to grind it at test cricket hence they have stagnated in skills, fitness and bowling smarts

Would had been true if happened to Afghans as well but it didn’t, PCT are suffering in every form of the game, stardom has gone to their heads.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Management is to be blamed because they were even more scared then the players. Mgmt should have taken bold step and selections should have been done on merit always but we all know how it works in PCB.

Why not blame management now???

 

[FearlessRoar]

PCB must respect their domestic performers

 

[FearlessRoar]

Haider Azhar criticizes PCB's lack of support for PSL franchises in player development.

Should PSL teams build an off-season structure to groom young talent?

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