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Can India bounce back after this humiliation?

Even if India win the series, still it will not please the fans, black day it was for Indian cricket fans in all our history,UNACCEPTABLE
 
akki said:
australia have won 7 last consecutive tosses here in india....and lost 6 matches.
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yes but this time if india lay out a road i think aus will get a proper score (650 Region) coz smith warner look in beast mode and they can all bat in that team if ball is on the straight. then starc will reverse swing them to a lead of 150-200.

and if its same pitch like pune was its a bit of a lottery
 
India will annihilate Aus in the next game like Aus did so in the 1st test
 
So the Indians will go Hard at the Australians ..... and the Australians will sit back and take it ????? Is that what is implied here ????? This is just a pre-match hype by the Indians .... just to keep their fans' interest high and keep them quiet .... nothing else. What a load of non-sense ???????
 
No reason why they cant.

This will be a fun series now unlike the other ones which were one sided contest.
 
First true test of Kohli's leadership I think. It's easy to keep winning when it becomes a habit. More challenging to bounce back from defeats. I don't think Dhoni quite recovered his mojo again after that England series which was his first big loss IIRC.
 
I haven´t watched a single ball yet and hence have no idea about the pitch, but I think that if this too is a turner like the last one, or even of a lesser degree, then India have got a huge advantage here by batting first. If however this is a flat kind of pitch, then India might be in trouble.
 
India struggling big time. Will be up to Ashwin and Jadeja to get them back in this one
 
Aussies should aim for an innings defeat. They can definitely get 350 here if they bat smartly.
 
Apparently not... Last time the excuse was that Australia got first use of the pitch, I wonder what the excuse is going to be now.

I thought India were going to win 4-0 without breaking a sweat.
 
Pakistan would thrash this Indian team left and right. Shah would pick up a 36 wickets and Khan would rack up a triple, a double and twin 150s after Azhar and Babar have scored enough runs for the entire year. Misbah will MBA Kohli to submission and effigies will burn.

Yet, I'd not be impressed by all that minnow-bashing.
 
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ATG Ashwin Bradman of bowling flopping at home like a beached dolphin lmao
 
ATG Ashwin being outplayed by his legendary competitors, O'Keefe and Nathan "The Roaring" Lyon. It's basically Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal vs Andy Murray.
 
Hasan123 said:
Okay Indian fans, which is worse being humiliated by SOK or Lyon?
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It's like Coke vs Pepsi. Depends on whether you like shouldering arms to an incoming delivery that shatters your stumps or if you like shouldering arms to an incoming delivery that hits you on the pads, and you eat up a review due to it. Personal preference, nothing more.
 
Australia have simply been brilliant, they have utilized the conditions to great effect. It will be very disappointing on their part if they lose the series from here on. Best touring team to India since England in 2012.
 
Haha.

This is too enjoyable.

Overrated Ashwin and co being totally annihilated.

When India go to Australia and England they will be massacred too.
 
DHONI183 said:
I haven´t watched a single ball yet and hence have no idea about the pitch, but I think that if this too is a turner like the last one, or even of a lesser degree, then India have got a huge advantage here by batting first. If however this is a flat kind of pitch, then India might be in trouble.
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And that, the toss, proved to be the deciding factor, friends. In the first Test too I think the toss played an incredibly crucial role. When I posted the above quoted post, India were 176-6 from what I remember.

Congratulations India; one of their very best comeback victories at home. The Pujara-Rahane stand turned the match on its head.
 
Hasan123 said:
They are being humiliated even more.
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GLORY OF '92 said:
Haha.

This is too enjoyable.

Overrated Ashwin and co being totally annihilated.

When India go to Australia and England they will be massacred too.
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Bilal7 said:
ATG Ashwin being outplayed by his legendary competitors, O'Keefe and Nathan "The Roaring" Lyon. It's basically Roger Federer vs Rafael Nadal vs Andy Murray.
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Hasan123 said:
Okay Indian fans, which is worse being humiliated by SOK or Lyon?
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Oh. My. Word.

The experts were out in full force I see.
 
Bilal7 said:
It's like Coke vs Pepsi. Depends on whether you like shouldering arms to an incoming delivery that shatters your stumps or if you like shouldering arms to an incoming delivery that hits you on the pads, and you eat up a review due to it. Personal preference, nothing more.
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You see to have a field day, but disappear when India wins.....:kohli2
 
Haha haha. how indian team trolled bilal, syed, hasan bhai after their glorious insights and predictions on indian team.
 
soso_killer said:
They'll be mentally scarred after this, especially with the comforts of home conditions dissipating over the next few months.
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How is that "mentally scarred" thingy working out for you?

Syed1 said:
ATG Ashwin Bradman of bowling flopping at home like a beached dolphin lmao
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Dolphins don't get stranded on beaches, whales do. Dolphins apparently win MotM awards and win games for their country.
 
A special mention to my bro Monsee>>> You gonna come and give some props bruh or disappear till the Next Indian loss ??? :)
 
GLORY OF '92 said:
Haha.

This is too enjoyable.

Overrated Ashwin and co being totally annihilated.

When India go to Australia and England they will be massacred too.
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Overrated Ashwin eh ? I think he's celebrating quite hard might not be able to hear you :jimmy
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol what did I say that was wrong? Lyon was humiliating you and you was in a bad position.

It's easy to chest thump after you have won the game. Where was you earlier?
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Similarly, quite easy to kick a team when it's 1 down eh lad
 
Beating Australia at home should be no achievement tbh, don't see why there's so much chest thumping. However credit to the Indians for this epic turn around mainly because of Mr Pujara. Also, I see Ashalitharan is back in business now that scorebard pressure came back in to the game.
 
Hasan123 said:
Well when you and the other Indian posters are acting the way you are now, of course we wil kick you when your down.
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Well when you win , you chest thump everyone does that , nothing wrong but writing off a team after one loss is quite an exaggeration. I am new here anyways and haven't done any chest thumping anyways lad. Regardless of you kicking or not, I take it in the right spirit but when you call us out, we'll call back ;)
 
bleaf27 said:
Well when you win , you chest thump everyone does that , nothing wrong but writing off a team after one loss is quite an exaggeration. I am new here anyways and haven't done any chest thumping anyways lad. Regardless of you kicking or not, I take it in the right spirit but when you call us out, we'll call back ;)
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Your on Pakistan forum. Your not going to get a well done and congratulations from everyone here that's what India forums are for. So if you don't like our chest thumping or don't like it when we mock India stick to Indian forums lol.
 
Hasan123 said:
Your on Pakistan forum. Your not going to get a well done and congratulations from everyone here that's what India forums are for. So if you don't like our chest thumping or don't like it when we mock India stick to Indian forums lol.
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Didn't realize I needed your welcome support. I am on Indian Forums too and do enjoy discussions with posters from other countries. Not requesting a well done or a congratulation from you ( even though, I don't have a problem in congratulating Pak if they do well but hey if you don't have the courage to do that , that's fine mate insecurities can be tough).
Yours isn't chest thumping - that's when you win something yourself , Taking happiness in other's loss isn't chest thumping but hey up for verbal jabs mate , we know our team backs us up :)
 
This is more predictable than a stereotypical Bollywood movie...India have a rare stumble....a few players who are rated as best in the world have an odd stumble and the "haters" find a voice. Then the No.1 team wakes up and tramples the opposition like it has been doing.

Smell the Coffee folks...this is a new Indian team...yes it is a sport,we will lose some in between but our mental strength and our talent puts us in a different league.....No cake cutting for small wins....we go for the kill and bring the entire feast to the fore.
 
From some of the comments by indians it looked like india had won a test series in Aus, when infact they have just won a test match in india after loosing one.Great achievement indeed!
 
Abidi110 said:
From some of the comments by indians it looked like india had won a test series in Aus, when infact they have just won a test match in india after loosing one.Great achievement indeed!
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Well Winning against Australia is always something to feel good about. The comments here are just a fun response to the jibes after they lost the 1st match. Just how winning a test match isn't a big deal , losing one isn't the end of the world as well .
 
I would still love to see Kuldeep given a go in the next Test in place of Ishant.

India does not need Ishant. I know Ishant always gives 100% effort and he is a work horse, but in these conditions, its better to have another mystery spinner at your disposal just in case if Ashwin struggles again.
 
bleaf27 said:
Well Winning against Australia is always something to feel good about. The comments here are just a fun response to the jibes after they lost the 1st match. Just how winning a test match isn't a big deal , losing one isn't the end of the world as well .
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winning against anyone is usually a feeling of good, however loosing against someone in 3 days when your ex players had given Aus no chance was indeed shocking.And yes the comments by some indians were laughable.
 
Abidi110 said:
winning against anyone is usually a feeling of good, however loosing against someone in 3 days when your ex players had given Aus no chance was indeed shocking.And yes the comments by some indians were laughable.
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It all depends on context , considering India is on top of the league and only Aussies can threaten that - winning against the Aussies is usually sweeter. Traditionally also, in the 2000s Australia has been the only dominant side thus why winning against them is extra sweet
Secondly , loosing against someone in 2-3-4 days is not important , one loss is one loss , regardless of how much a loss is "hyped" - after winning 19 tests , India lost one - anyone with sense knows that they were overdue to lose - law of probability.
Thirdly, everyone has an opinion , Australia traditionally struggled in India and with India on a roll , some ex cricketers did make overbearing statements - whether they got carried away or was mental games - not everyone agreed with that.
 
bleaf27 said:
It all depends on context , considering India is on top of the league and only Aussies can threaten that - winning against the Aussies is usually sweeter. .
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Completely disagree, there are other teams that can beat india in india.
In any case, winning against aus in india will not make india world beater, for that they will have to perform outside india
 
Abidi110 said:
Completely disagree, there are other teams that can beat india in india.
In any case, winning against aus in india will not make india world beater, for that they will have to perform outside india
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Which other teams would those be ? Any good reasoning behind this or just an opinion ?
 
bleaf27 said:
Which other teams would those be ? Any good reasoning behind this or just an opinion ?
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I think its your opinion that only aus can beat india in india. If india and Pak had been playing a series in india, i know the series would have been very close, because not only do Pak have better spinners, bit also better spin playing batters.
Regardless of that, i don't see much into winning a test series against aus in asia.
 
If you really think Pak can come even close to win against India ...I don't even know what to say to that.
Pak Spinners are not as good as Ashwin and Jadeja atm.
Pak batting is struggling to bat 50 overs .....Test cricket is a totally diff ball game
In terms of fielding and wicket keeping - less said the better.

Pak is a rebuilding team..they aren't challenging anytime soon - If you S Anwar , Inzamam , Wasim , Akhtar playing still then yes but from the current crop ... no one
 
bleaf27 said:
If you really think Pak can come even close to win against India ...I don't even know what to say to that.
Pak Spinners are not as good as Ashwin and Jadeja atm.
Pak batting is struggling to bat 50 overs .....Test cricket is a totally diff ball game
In terms of fielding and wicket keeping - less said the better.

Pak is a rebuilding team..they aren't challenging anytime soon - If you S Anwar , Inzamam , Wasim , Akhtar playing still then yes but from the current crop ... no one
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You are totally clueless. Pak was no 1 team till they were playing in Asia, and they were at that for a reason. Pak test batting in asia has been very very good, its the oneday batting that is struggling.Pak spinners job isnt to match ash or jadeja, but to get opponents wkts, and they can do that very easily on turning tracks. And yes, Pak batters plays spin much better than indian batters.

Anyway, you can live in ur own world thinking only aus can beat you in a test match in India.The last time aus played Pak in UAE, Pak won 3-0, and i never thought much about those results.
 
Abidi110 said:
You are totally clueless. Pak was no 1 team till they were playing in Asia, and they were at that for a reason. Pak test batting in asia has been very very good, its the oneday batting that is struggling.Pak spinners job isnt to match ash or jadeja, but to get opponents wkts, and they can do that very easily on turning tracks. And yes, Pak batters plays spin much better than indian batters.

Anyway, you can live in ur own world thinking only aus can beat you in a test match in India.The last time aus played Pak in UAE, Pak won 3-0, and i never thought much about those results.
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Okay let me break your argument , You are passionate about the Pak team but you hace gotten delusional now. What Pak was isn't the question , What Pak is is the question.

The current Pakistan Lineup - Who do you think has the temperament and skills to play a long innings ?
You said yourself Pak has better spinners , my question is Which current Pak spinner is better than the Indian counterparts ?
Pak plays spin better than Indian batsman ? Stop watching the sport mate or atleast stop posting ....you are making a foo lof yourself.
Pak lost to Australia , NZ , Drew with England , 2-1 against West Indies and lost to Sri Lanka.

Current Pak Team - Except Misbah and Younis , There is not a single player who can play a long innings. Don't make love for your team make you sound ignorant.
 
bleaf27 said:
Okay let me break your argument , You are passionate about the Pak team but you hace gotten delusional now. What Pak was isn't the question , What Pak is is the question.

The current Pakistan Lineup - Who do you think has the temperament and skills to play a long innings ?
You said yourself Pak has better spinners , my question is Which current Pak spinner is better than the Indian counterparts ?
Pak plays spin better than Indian batsman ? Stop watching the sport mate or atleast stop posting ....you are making a foo lof yourself.
Pak lost to Australia , NZ , Drew with England , 2-1 against West Indies and lost to Sri Lanka.

Current Pak Team - Except Misbah and Younis , There is not a single player who can play a long innings. Don't make love for your team make you sound ignorant.
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Its none other than you who is delusional, thats why i adviced you to live in your foolish world.Also i never claimed Pak to be a world beater, only said that Pak is a very good test team in ASIA.Funny thing is that its you who is turning out to be arrogant because of blind love for your team.
As for your question of which playing playing a long innings, Azhar ali just made a double hundred in Aus, and infact the best test opener in game today.Asad shafiq is the one of the best no 6 batter in test matches.
Pak did loose to Aus in Aus and to NZ in Nz, but we won nearly all the test series in UAE and won against SL, so gets your facts right.
And again, you don't need to be better than Ash to get indians out, otherwise moeen ali and aus spinners wouldn't have done anything of note in test matches against india.I guess since you are delusional you still can't realise that Yasir Shah is fat better spinner than jadeja in tests atleast.
 
Abidi110 said:
Its none other than you who is delusional, thats why i adviced you to live in your foolish world.Also i never claimed Pak to be a world beater, only said that Pak is a very good test team in ASIA.Funny thing is that its you who is turning out to be arrogant because of blind love for your team.
As for your question of which playing playing a long innings, Azhar ali just made a double hundred in Aus, and infact the best test opener in game today.Asad shafiq is the one of the best no 6 batter in test matches.
Pak did loose to Aus in Aus and to NZ in Nz, but we won nearly all the test series in UAE and won against SL, so gets your facts right.
And again, you don't need to be better than Ash to get indians out, otherwise moeen ali and aus spinners wouldn't have done anything of note in test matches against india.I guess since you are delusional you still can't realise that Yasir Shah is fat better spinner than jadeja in tests atleast.
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I'll just pick the relevant stuff from your rhetoric because you are just writing passionate paragraphs. I am not sure if you understand the different between facts and opinion.

1 ) Azhar Ali - His stats are no better than Pujara currently. Best test opener ? This is purely your opinion because your stats and his young career of less than 50 test matches is no better than Pujara's stats.
2) Asad Shafiq ? - Batting Average of 41 in tests , with 36 average in 2016. Just to give you context , Rahane averages 46... and no one considers him best batter at no. 5 or 6.
3) Yasir Shah - he has played 23 test matches and he is better than Jadeja ? He might well be the best spinner ATG. Jadeja has bowling avg of 23.44 in 28 matches and Yasir Shah is 31.5 in 23 Matches , are you bad in Math or just delusional ? . Jadeja also has a batting avg of 26 in test matches and Yasir Shah has batting Avg. of 11. .....

my facts ? - Pak won against Sri Lanka 2-1 in 2015 , Lost 2-0 in 2014.

Give your head a good shake. There are quite a number of senior Pakistani posters on this forum, let's see what opinion do they have on this. Why don't you make a thread of your claims and let's see the response.
 
Azhar ali has been the leading run scorer in test cricket in 2016, he scored in eng, he scored in Aus, infact made a double ton, there can be few openers who can outperform him going by his current form.

Asad has widely been considered as one of the best batter in test at no 6, this is not my claim.Regardless of him being the best or not, Asad and Azhar are very good test batters who along with Misbah and Younis can pile up runs in asia.
As for Yasir shah, he's way better than jadeja as test bowler, his average might be a bit high but again he plays on roads in UAE rather than some land mines, as as for their batting stats, whats the point in bringing it up, noone claimed him to be an AR.

As for Pak lost series in 2014 against lanka, aren't we suppose to go by recent results? whats the point in bringing up old stats? just to support your dumb argument.

You are so delusional that you simply can't accept facts.Fact is Pak became no 1 test country because they played lots of matches in Asia, and Pak still have players who can perform very well while playing in Asia, its a different story when they start playing overseas.
 
Abidi110 said:
Azhar ali has been the leading run scorer in test cricket in 2016, he scored in eng, he scored in Aus, infact made a double ton, there can be few openers who can outperform him going by his current form.

Asad has widely been considered as one of the best batter in test at no 6, this is not my claim.Regardless of him being the best or not, Asad and Azhar are very good test batters who along with Misbah and Younis can pile up runs in asia.
As for Yasir shah, he's way better than jadeja as test bowler, his average might be a bit high but again he plays on roads in UAE rather than some land mines, as as for their batting stats, whats the point in bringing it up, noone claimed him to be an AR.

As for Pak lost series in 2014 against lanka, aren't we suppose to go by recent results? whats the point in bringing up old stats? just to support your dumb argument.

You are so delusional that you simply can't accept facts.Fact is Pak became no 1 test country because they played lots of matches in Asia, and Pak still have players who can perform very well while playing in Asia, its a different story when they start playing overseas.
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It became Number 1, It isn't anymore.
Secondly, The fact that Pak is fielding a very young and inexperienced team with few match winners and with Misbah and Younis out of the picture - It doesn't look like a world beater . If you really think that Asad and Azhar Ali , Yasir can beat any strong team at their home , you couldn't be more wrong. What I had said before is Australia is the only team that comes close to beating India in India and i don't think Pak even comes close at this point
 
Abidi110 said:
Azhar ali has been the leading run scorer in test cricket in 2016, he scored in eng, he scored in Aus, infact made a double ton, there can be few openers who can outperform him going by his current form.

Asad has widely been considered as one of the best batter in test at no 6, this is not my claim.Regardless of him being the best or not, Asad and Azhar are very good test batters who along with Misbah and Younis can pile up runs in asia.
As for Yasir shah, he's way better than jadeja as test bowler, his average might be a bit high but again he plays on roads in UAE rather than some land mines, as as for their batting stats, whats the point in bringing it up, noone claimed him to be an AR.

As for Pak lost series in 2014 against lanka, aren't we suppose to go by recent results? whats the point in bringing up old stats? just to support your dumb argument.

You are so delusional that you simply can't accept facts.Fact is Pak became no 1 test country because they played lots of matches in Asia, and Pak still have players who can perform very well while playing in Asia, its a different story when they start playing overseas.
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Where are you getting your statistics from? Root, Bairstow, Cook and Kohli (with a average of 76, higher than everyone else!) outscored Azhar in 2016.
 
Sachin136 said:
Where are you getting your statistics from? Root, Bairstow, Cook and Kohli (with a average of 76, higher than everyone else!) outscored Azhar in 2016.
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I said test opener.
and the fact you mentioned those name along with Azhar suggest Azhar is still a great value to the team, which has been my point that besides Younis and Misbah, we have other batters too who are contributing to the test team and can play long innings!
 
Abidi110 said:
From some of the comments by indians it looked like india had won a test series in Aus, when infact they have just won a test match in india after loosing one.Great achievement indeed!
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You are right that we Indians thought that this series (like the NZ and Eng series before) were be a cake walk for us. Therefore the comprehensive loss in the first Test was a big shock. The entire team getting out in around 2 sessions in the first innings of the 2nd Test only made it worse. From there to win the Test has been a big cause for celebrations for Indians. Hopefully we will win the next 2 and increase our lead in the standings.
 
Napa said:
You are right that we Indians thought that this series (like the NZ and Eng series before) were be a cake walk for us. Therefore the comprehensive loss in the first Test was a big shock. The entire team getting out in around 2 sessions in the first innings of the 2nd Test only made it worse. From there to win the Test has been a big cause for celebrations for Indians. Hopefully we will win the next 2 and increase our lead in the standings.
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What is india's test schedule like after this series?

i think india can win this 3-1 with ease
 
Slog said:
What is india's test schedule like after this series?

i think india can win this 3-1 with ease
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Jul/Sep 2017: SL 3 Tests away
Nov 2017/Jan 2018: SA 3 Tests away
Mar/Apr 2018: SL 3 Tests home
Jun/Aug 2018: Eng 5 Tests away
Oct/Nov 2018: WI 2 Tests home
Dec 2018/Jan 2019: Aus 4 Tests away

Seems like the first challenge to the #1 ranking will come in SA about 9 months from now.
 
Napa said:
Jul/Sep 2017: SL 3 Tests away
Nov 2017/Jan 2018: SA 3 Tests away
Mar/Apr 2018: SL 3 Tests home
Jun/Aug 2018: Eng 5 Tests away
Oct/Nov 2018: WI 2 Tests home
Dec 2018/Jan 2019: Aus 4 Tests away

Seems like the first challenge to the #1 ranking will come in SA about 9 months from now.
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thanks!

Its a good schedule.

Nice even distribution oh home/away series

With current series and atleast a 2-0 in SL, by Nov 2017 India should be able to build such a lead at the top that worst case scenario 3-0 loss in SA wont make a big difference.

Then obv 3 home SL tests should be an easy cleansweep.

Major challenge which I see a threat to #1 rank is the 5 Test away tour. It could go either way tbh and I think their team would be TOTALLY different from what we saw last summer. Good or bad dunno.
 
Hasan123 said:
Lol what did I say that was wrong? Lyon was humiliating you and you was in a bad position.

It's easy to chest thump after you have won the game. Where was you earlier?
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I'm very interested in the tone of your arguments.

Of course Lyon was playing brilliantly against us- but you see it as if he were humiliating us?

"Humiliating', 'Chest thumping'-- these are words used by the overtly emotional and callow posters who like to argue that when their team or hero wins, they/ he has 'slapped' the face of their opponents.

Not worth engaging. so I'll wish you farewell.
 
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