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Can Shan Masood provide some resistance in our middle-order in LOI cricket?

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The way Shan Masood played in PSL 5 and 6 and the way he's performing in KPL can he provide some resistance to our Middle Order probably at no. 4 or no. 5 in One Dayers and No. 3 in T20 Cricket?

He's an intelligent cricketer always looking for gaps and also he's fit comparatively to Pakistani Standards.
 
As we have seen countless times, ripping it up in substandard leagues and playing international cricket is a totally different beast.

Plus the middle order requires your best batsmen which he is far from.
 
As we have seen countless times, ripping it up in substandard leagues and playing international cricket is a totally different beast.

Plus the middle order requires your best batsmen which he is far from.

I agree but he can be our no.3 in T20's at least IMO
 
UAE could well be the best place for him to show his worth?
 
Like [MENTION=60967]Justcrazy[/MENTION] said; if you want to play him, open with him. Stop trying to force players into positions they don't play at
 
A lower middle order bat is needed. We have already made Fakhar into a middle order bat. I guess everyone in domestics know what Pakistan is lacking and need. Time for someone to step up first in domestics in that role before letting them into national team
 
UAE could well be the best place for him to show his worth?

Remember he did nothing vs Aus in 2019 despite being given 5 chances on flat decks.

Shan is an almost cricketer, hard working but limited natural talent. He'll only ever be average at the highest level.
 
Like [MENTION=60967]Justcrazy[/MENTION] said; if you want to play him, open with him. Stop trying to force players into positions they don't play at

And that’s the problem with not only the player but with our mindset too.

If a player is truly good then it shouldn't matter to him at what position he is made to play at.
He must make himself available AND perform, at any given position to make the captain’s job easy. This is what a warrior is.

This fussy and sissy attitude of,

“Oh I can play only at a certain position, and don’t complain when I fail after you have changed my position in the batting order”

is not only laughable but should have no place in the team building process.

We are quite unfortunate and at a difficult position for not having too many good players to fix the issue.

In a hopeless and desperate attempt, all we can do is flip flop players from one format to the other, retry TTFs, or shuffle the positions and batting order, and hope that something may click and miracle may happen (OP is a classical example).

What we continuously fail to understand at all levels is
[and make a note of it]

Hope is not a plan.

Fact of the matter is, just like many, many ordinary products of our domestic cricket, Shan Masood is just one more of the same Just not good enough.

Very weak, both physically and technique wise, slow to think and react. Severely lacks fire in the belly and a go getter attitude.

Take for example David Warner and his attitude and approach towards the game. 24/7 he is on the look to find an opportunity to eat the entire opposition alive. Shan Masood in front of him looks like bheegi billi.
 
And that’s the problem with not only the player but with our mindset too.

If a player is truly good then it shouldn't matter to him at what position he is made to play at.
He must make himself available AND perform, at any given position to make the captain’s job easy. This is what a warrior is.

This fussy and sissy attitude of,

“Oh I can play only at a certain position, and don’t complain when I fail after you have changed my position in the batting order”

is not only laughable but should have no place in the team building process.

We are quite unfortunate and at a difficult position for not having too many good players to fix the issue.

In a hopeless and desperate attempt, all we can do is flip flop players from one format to the other, retry TTFs, or shuffle the positions and batting order, and hope that something may click and miracle may happen (OP is a classical example).

What we continuously fail to understand at all levels is
[and make a note of it]

Hope is not a plan.

Fact of the matter is, just like many, many ordinary products of our domestic cricket, Shan Masood is just one more of the same Just not good enough.

Very weak, both physically and technique wise, slow to think and react. Severely lacks fire in the belly and a go getter attitude.

Take for example David Warner and his attitude and approach towards the game. 24/7 he is on the look to find an opportunity to eat the entire opposition alive. Shan Masood in front of him looks like bheegi billi.

Exactly that's the point if you've the ability to play you can play at any number
 
Lacks the game to force the ball into gaps hard enough to fetch boundaries.
He is a good strike rotator but in the middle overs the boundaries totally dry out for him and he usually perishes trying to manufacture a boundary.

Saud Shakeel looks good but in the only 50 he scored he showed lack of power as well. Although I hope to be proven wrong. Haris in his brief run at no.4/5 showed a lot of range as he was always a good strike rotator but also worked on finding gaps regularly from 2018-19 but he's been looking quite down on fuel lately.
 
Lacks the game to force the ball into gaps hard enough to fetch boundaries.
He is a good strike rotator but in the middle overs the boundaries totally dry out for him and he usually perishes trying to manufacture a boundary.

Saud Shakeel looks good but in the only 50 he scored he showed lack of power as well. Although I hope to be proven wrong. Haris in his brief run at no.4/5 showed a lot of range as he was always a good strike rotator but also worked on finding gaps regularly from 2018-19 but he's been looking quite down on fuel lately.

Saud shakeel should be batting in the top 4 thiers is no point him batting at 5 we're you need someone to take the game on becouse he doesn't have the power to regular hit big shots.
 
Saud shakeel should be batting in the top 4 thiers is no point him batting at 5 we're you need someone to take the game on becouse he doesn't have the power to regular hit big shots.

Well there's an undisputed fact that Babar shouldn't bat anywhere below 3. Would you play Saud at no.3 and shift Babar at 4?
A case can be made for Rizwan to bat at 5, but as a young upstart, you need to add more dimensions to your game and try to grab the opportunities with both hands.
 
I think he is an honest trier he can play at no.3 specially in T20's

Unfortunately, I do not think it will work. If he is not among top 3 openers in Pakistan in selectors book , he cannot be played.

If they feel he is good , he should be slotted into proper position.
 
He should bat at 3 and Babar at 4 in ODIs as Haris Sohail is mostly in hospital. We need to solidify our middle order in ODIs
 
Saud shakeel should be batting in the top 4 thiers is no point him batting at 5 we're you need someone to take the game on becouse he doesn't have the power to regular hit big shots.

Saud Shakeel shouldn't be playing ODIs at all. He has no power game, can never accelerate.
 
Ignored for the white-ball series against Australia despite a very impressive PSL 7.
 
Should have been in the ODI squad imo. We badly need a credible back-up for Imam and Fakhar.
 
Shan had a good PSL at the top but I think we still have better options than him, also without the Power play I feel he will struggle so middle order not the best option for him.
 
Ignored for the white-ball series against Australia despite a very impressive PSL 7.

When he did not deserve selection , he was in the team , now he is in great form , he is being ignored , mindless selection .
 
how do you adjust Shan into a top order of Babar, Rizwan, Fakhar, Imam. Middle order is the real worry.

If i was a batter in the pakistani domestic setup i would be working on my power game and getting into the middle and lower order. The competition is minimal.

Asif Ali, Azam Khan, Haider Ali, Khushdil shah....
 
Saud Shakeel shouldn't be playing ODIs at all. He has no power game, can never accelerate.

Exactly what we have seen from his short career so far is that his technique to survive is good , he should have debuted in place for Fawad in Tests already imo.. For ODIs he is as the same as Fawad, will hit boundaries along the carpet when set, apart from that he is not flexible enough to accelerate or play at no.4 or 5 for ODIs..

For ODIs , top 3 is set and auto pick themselves..

4. Haider Ali
5. Rizwan
6. Haris
7. Nawaz
8. Shadab
9. Hasan
10. Wasim Jnr
11. Shaheen.
 
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Despite Imam's impressive average of 49 in ODIs, I think he's not a guy who's going to win you games and almost always goes missing in pressure situations or unfavorable conditions.
Shan even with less potential than Imam has much more spine.
 
Despite Imam's impressive average of 49 in ODIs, I think he's not a guy who's going to win you games and almost always goes missing in pressure situations or unfavorable conditions.
Shan even with less potential than Imam has much more spine.

If you are going to drop Imam, then it might be worth making use of Rizwan who is a dud everywhere else.
 
If you are going to drop Imam, then it might be worth making use of Rizwan who is a dud everywhere else.

Yes Rizwan would definitely do really well as an opener in ODIs too but for a wicketkeeper to open in 2 formats might be too much on his body. Only Gilchrist has been able to successfully do it for longer period.

QdK ran out of steam before turning 30 and left tests altogether.
 
Yes Rizwan would definitely do really well as an opener in ODIs too but for a wicketkeeper to open in 2 formats might be too much on his body. Only Gilchrist has been able to successfully do it for longer period.

QdK ran out of steam before turning 30 and left tests altogether.

Rizwan fitness level is on another level to any Pakistani cricketer infact he will proberly will be top 5 in all asain countries together.
 
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