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We have repeatedly heard how CAS will overrule ICC, how boards can sue each other at CAS et etc.

Every bit of publicly available information indicates that ICC is not a party to CAS and does not come under CAS jurisdiction.

Is there any evidence to the contrary?

Most of the cases that I've read about with CAS involves individual sports, with athletes or WADA appealing matters related to positive drug tests.

Has CAS ever arbitrated disputes between two sporting bodies? Does CAS have any enforcing authority?

While we are at it, what was the basis for UK denying visa to Zimbabwe cricket team in 2009?
 
rpant_gabba said:
We have repeatedly heard how CAS will overrule ICC, how boards can sue each other at CAS et etc.

Every bit of publicly available information indicates that ICC is not a party to CAS and does not come under CAS jurisdiction.

Is there any evidence to the contrary?

Most of the cases that I've read about with CAS involves individual sports, with athletes or WADA appealing matters related to positive drug tests.

Has CAS ever arbitrated disputes between two sporting bodies? Does CAS have any enforcing authority?

While we are at it, what was the basis for UK denying visa to Zimbabwe cricket team in 2009?
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Zimbabwe was under mugabe regime and uk didn’t like him
 
rpant_gabba said:
We have repeatedly heard how CAS will overrule ICC, how boards can sue each other at CAS et etc.

Every bit of publicly available information indicates that ICC is not a party to CAS and does not come under CAS jurisdiction.

Is there any evidence to the contrary?

Most of the cases that I've read about with CAS involves individual sports, with athletes or WADA appealing matters related to positive drug tests.

Has CAS ever arbitrated disputes between two sporting bodies? Does CAS have any enforcing authority?

While we are at it, what was the basis for UK denying visa to Zimbabwe cricket team in 2009?
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Guys plz keep this thread strictly factual, for the sake of meaningful discourse. Thanks
 
Some recent rulings.

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Court of Justice of the European Union delivers ruling in Royal Football Club Seraing (C-600/23) | White & Case LLP

On 1 August 2025, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) delivered its ruling in the case of Royal Football Club Seraing.1 The CJEU found that also in the context of arbitration before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), any arbitral award must be subject to effective judicial...
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>>>On 1 August 2025, the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) delivered its ruling in the case of Royal Football Club Seraing.1 The CJEU found that also in the context of arbitration before the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), any arbitral award must be subject to effective judicial review by courts within the EU to ensure consistency with EU public policy.<<<

Looks CAS rulings don't have much meaning even in EU
 
From 2023:

  • Jurisdiction & FIFA Bodies: Rulings clarified that internal FIFA bodies (like the Players' Status Committee) aren't arbitral tribunals, limiting CAS's jurisdiction in certain complex claims and reminding parties to frame appeals correctly.
 
KingKhanWC said:
CAS is the highest level of jurisdiction , ultimate authority in judging sporting issues. Not irrelevant, it’s obvious.
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Its an unsupported claim. Can you provide any any documentation which supports that ICC is under jurisdiction of CAS?

I understand if you don't have any.
 
rpant_gabba said:
You sound confident about CAS. Is that based on factual information or your usual false bravado?

If your are sure that CAS has jurisdiction over ICC, post the relevant information in this thread

rpant_gabba

Thread 'CAS (Court of Arbitration of Sports) and ICC, who reigns supreme?'

We have repeatedly heard how CAS will overrule ICC, how boards can sue each other at CAS et etc.

Every bit of publicly available information indicates that ICC is not a party to CAS and does not come under CAS jurisdiction.

Is there any evidence to the contrary?

Most of the cases that I've read about with CAS involves individual sports, with athletes or WADA appealing matters related to positive drug tests.

Has CAS ever arbitrated disputes between two sporting bodies? Does CAS have any enforcing authority?

While we are at it, what was the basis for UK denying visa to Zimbabwe cricket...
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CAS was involved when during Asif drug ban.
 
Devadwal said:
they had no idea that this issue was outside the terms and reference of the committee they approached. Some due diligence was the least the BCB could have done 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

:klopp :kp
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Maybe they did know but were advised to pursue all avenues . It will help them at the CAS hearing . ICC cannot influence CAS in any way .

If Bangladesh do win the cas case … India another humiliation
 
KingKhanWC said:

ARTICLE 7: APPEALS | ICC

www.icc-cricket.com www.icc-cricket.com

lol anyone with any knowledge of sports know this . I understand if you continue to bury your head in the sand . It’s embarrassing even debating this point
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Its consistent with my post here, and it has limitations on CAS can rule on

The following decisions made under the Anti-Corruption Code may be challenged by the ICCor the Participant who is the subject of the decision (as applicable) solely and exclusively by appeal to CAS as set out in this Article 7:

 
rpant_gabba said:
Can you provide a source? what was CAS role in the matter?
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As per the below article,Cas has nothing to do with ICC. I hope espn is not indian company :babarazam

However CAS, which set up a special panel to examine the issue, found that the PCB does not provide a right of appeal to the international sports court. Furthermore, it added, the ICC's code did not contain any rules that obliged the Pakistan board to allow appeals to CAS


www.espn.com.au

Court has no jurisdiction in doping case

The Court of Arbitration for Sports has been forced to dismiss an appeal by the World Anti Doping Agency over the reprieves for the Pakistan fast bowlers, Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, saying it had no jurisdiction to overturn the decision | ESPN.com.au
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rpant_gabba said:
@Mainul @Major you two have mentioned CAS in ICC disputes before. Can you bring any source to support your view point?
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In every court of law, you need to have an appeal body, where judgements that are given against someone, that someone should have the option of having a final appeal go to a third party.

In country law, we have the district court, where if you dont like the decision made you can appeal to High court and if you dont like the decision made by them you can than appeal to the Supreme court.

The CAS also works like that.

In ICC cases are heard by the ICC tribunal or Anti Corruption Unit and for doping they go to ICC Doping unit. If the player or the board do not like the decision, the final appeal goes to CAS, which is seen as the neutral party and they give the final judgement.

Their jurisdiction is on the basis of sports matters and not criminal matters.

But before going to CAS, first the case needs to be dealt within the ICC tribunal.


I have always talked about CAS in terms of cricket discrimination that goes on where a Pakistani is not allowed to play in the IPL. My stance is that Pakistan should create awareness on this, that they are being discriminated and being targeted just like how black people were in MLB. Create awareness, use people like Holding to speak for us and than open a case in ICC first to look into this matter. After that take the case to CAS on the basis of Appeal.


Someone needs to give a judgement out that IPL discriminates, now it doesnt matter what penalty is given out, but having a legal judgement passed is good enough in my view.
 
KingKhanWC said:

ARTICLE 7: APPEALS | ICC

www.icc-cricket.com www.icc-cricket.com

lol anyone with any knowledge of sports know this . I understand if you continue to bury your head in the sand . It’s embarrassing even debating this point
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Its funny that how everyone who watches sports understand that how CAS works, but when it comes to cricket, Indian fans start talking about jurisdiction as if these guys are lawyers lol.....

CAS is there to protect sports, and these jurisdictions are erased when an issue becomes too big, because you always need a third party appeal court to give out a final judgement.
 
Major said:
Its funny that how everyone who watches sports understand that how CAS works, but when it comes to cricket, Indian fans start talking about jurisdiction as if these guys are lawyers lol.....

CAS is there to protect sports, and these jurisdictions are erased when an issue becomes too big, because you always need a third party appeal court to give out a final judgement.
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read post #8 and post #9
 
rpant_gabba said:
Its an unsupported claim. Can you provide any any documentation which supports that ICC is under jurisdiction of CAS?

I understand if you don't have any.
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ICC are not under CAS. If I am not wrong, even PCB made a case that neither PCB or even ICC is under CAS during Asif and Amir saga
 
that is specifically for anti corruption rulings. nothing to do with contract violations. Ultimately this whole saga boils down to whatever contracts boards have signed with ICC. This will be a civil case if BCB wants to pursue and will have to be taken up in a court in UAE

KingKhanWC said:

ARTICLE 7: APPEALS | ICC

www.icc-cricket.com www.icc-cricket.com

lol anyone with any knowledge of sports know this . I understand if you continue to bury your head in the sand . It’s embarrassing even debating this point
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Vikram1989 said:
As per the below article,Cas has nothing to do with ICC. I hope espn is not indian company :babarazam

However CAS, which set up a special panel to examine the issue, found that the PCB does not provide a right of appeal to the international sports court. Furthermore, it added, the ICC's code did not contain any rules that obliged the Pakistan board to allow appeals to CAS


www.espn.com.au

Court has no jurisdiction in doping case

The Court of Arbitration for Sports has been forced to dismiss an appeal by the World Anti Doping Agency over the reprieves for the Pakistan fast bowlers, Shoaib Akhtar and Mohammad Asif, saying it had no jurisdiction to overturn the decision | ESPN.com.au
www.espn.com.au www.espn.com.au
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yes, one possible are where CAS has a say is in anticorruption decisions. But even there there are grey areas
 
SportsWarrior said:
ICC are not under CAS. If I am not wrong, even PCB made a case that neither PCB or even ICC is under CAS during Asif and Amir saga
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Looks Shawshank regime signed them up. We will a test case for what exactly. Hopefully BDs help out in clarifying this by taking it to CAS which PCB didn’t have stones to do.
 
rpant_gabba said:
Looks Shawshank regime signed them up. We will a test case for what exactly. Hopefully BDs help out in clarifying this by taking it to CAS which PCB didn’t have stones to do.
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BCB has already dug a grave for themselves. More they drag, deeper their cricket will be buried. Pakistan actually has a decent team and a very good legacy. They have history and culture of producing great cricketers. BD has absolutely nothing to show for 40 years of international cricket and 25 years of test cricket. If they don't want to play their best bet is to sit aside watch the tournament, which their cricketers are used to.

moreover what do they plan to achieve? even if CAS has jurisdiction over this, they are not going to get anything done until the tournament is over. And unless they can produce a credible independent source about security threat they are not going to get anything out of this. If they had a any such report they would have already used it by now. No one is going to beleive their own investigation or reports. They will need to get an independent security assessment done.. this is all useless grave digging on their side..

Remember, when your enemy is digging their own grave, you should always supply them right tools
 
BCCI should be another option in title. ICC vs Court of Arbitration of Sports - takkar ka muqabla nahi hai
 
Vikram1989 said:
Bangladesh won't challenge ICC's decision to replace them at T20 World Cup.As usually big have done a bit of headless chicken stuff and now seems to got in to no position .



@rpant_gabba i don't think cas have any jurisdiction over icc apart from anti corruption.otherwise both pcb and bng may have landed there in blink of eye.
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Ultimately not much value has been lost anywhere. BD is anyway would have ended up somewhere in the bottom and Scotland is fully capable of doing that while getting the experience to improve in future
 
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Vikram1989 said:
Bangladesh won't challenge ICC's decision to replace them at T20 World Cup.As usually big have done a bit of headless chicken stuff and now seems to got in to no position .



@rpant_gabba i don't think cas have any jurisdiction over icc apart from anti corruption.otherwise both pcb and bng may have landed there in blink of eye.
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Court of Arbitration for Sport

Europe's football website, UEFA.com, is the official site of UEFA, the Union of European Football Associations, and the governing body of football in Europe. UEFA organises some of the most famous and prestigious football competitions on the European continent including the UEFA Champions...
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>>>The CAS is only able to intervene in its capacity as an ordinary court of arbitration if the dispute in question does not fall within the competences of a UEFA organ.<<<
 
rpant_gabba said:

Court of Arbitration for Sport

Europe's football website, UEFA.com, is the official site of UEFA, the Union of European Football Associations, and the governing body of football in Europe. UEFA organises some of the most famous and prestigious football competitions on the European continent including the UEFA Champions...
www.uefa.com

>>>The CAS is only able to intervene in its capacity as an ordinary court of arbitration if the dispute in question does not fall within the competences of a UEFA organ.<<<
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Do u think, u have to translate in easy language for understanding by few gems :cobra
 
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