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China’s mood chills on new Belt and Road projects in Pakistan (Nikkei Asian Review)

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When Pakistan and China sat down recently for talks on Beijing's major Belt and Road initiative known as the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC), the China side showed a distinct lack of enthusiasm toward pumping more money into new projects.

The two countries held the sixth round of meetings of the Joint Cooperation Committee, the apex body of CPEC, on Nov. 4-6, and it concluded without a major breakthrough on new projects.

Pakistan invited China to expand the scope of CPEC by investing in the oil and gas sector, and offered to sell the loss-making Pakistan Steel Mills to China. However, China did not make any financial commitment in response to these offers.

The Pakistan government had expected China to add a number of new projects in CPEC in this round of meetings of the joint committee. This indicates that China's is taking a cautious approach toward the corridor projects.

Experts said China has apparently adopted a policy of completing the existing projects in the corridor before making additional financial commitments.

Malik Siraj Akbar, a Washington, D.C., based analyst, said China has invested substantially in Pakistan, but it feels Islamabad does not have the capability and the efficient government machinery to effectively complete various projects.

"China has decided to slow down to make sure all the ongoing projects are completed on time without throwing more money toward Pakistan," he told the Nikkei Asian Review.

One reason for China's cautious approach toward CPEC is the ongoing economic crisis in Pakistan. "China understands the risks of funneling so many loans to a nation that is heavily indebted and mired in a balance of payments crisis that its government appears incapable of ending," said Michael Kugelman, deputy director of the Asia Program at the Wilson Center in Washington, D.C.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...lls-on-new-Belt-and-Road-projects-in-Pakistan

Quite a reality check for Imran Khan and his newly established Madinah welfare state. It appears that China is quite upset over the fact that we shared the CPEC accounts with IMF/USA.

It also seems that the Chinese are not impressed by the fake tabdeeli and the circus act of this incompetent government. They have made it very clear that they don’t trust this government to overcome the economic crisis.

They also appeared unconvinced when we repeatedly reassured that them that we have recouped $12 billion from Nawaz Sharif in addition to the billion dollars investment by KSA and UAE.
 
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...lls-on-new-Belt-and-Road-projects-in-Pakistan

Quite a reality check for Imran Khan and his newly established Madinah welfare state. It appears that China is quite upset over the fact that we shared the CPEC accounts with IMF/USA.

It also seems that the Chinese are not impressed by the fake tabdeeli and the circus act of this incompetent government. They have made it very clear that they don’t trust this government to overcome the economic crisis.

They also appeared unconvinced when we repeatedly reassured that them that we have recouped $12 billion from Nawaz Sharif in addition to the billion dollars investment by KSA and UAE.

LOL, you are turning in to a joke

But let me entertain you since probably only entertain you have to enjoy.

You are talking as if NS, Zardari and your newly proclaimed love for a party, JUI, would have magically printed $$ out of thin air.

Relax.

IK isn't going on where, NS will.

Soon Zardari will, too.
 
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"Malik Siraj Akbar, a Washington, D.C., based analyst,"

OP may hate Pakistan but needs to look into the writer. He has as much credibility as those who have become wealthy due to corruption discussing tax breaks!
 
OP hasn't responded but before anyone else takes this article seriously.

"In October 2011, Akbar was granted political asylum in the United States owing to threats he said he faced from the Pakistani military authorities due to his outspoken writings that exposed human rights abuses in his native Balochistan.["

OP wont be back in this thread. :shezzy2
 
https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/B...lls-on-new-Belt-and-Road-projects-in-Pakistan

Quite a reality check for Imran Khan and his newly established Madinah welfare state. It appears that China is quite upset over the fact that we shared the CPEC accounts with IMF/USA.

It also seems that the Chinese are not impressed by the fake tabdeeli and the circus act of this incompetent government. They have made it very clear that they don’t trust this government to overcome the economic crisis.

They also appeared unconvinced when we repeatedly reassured that them that we have recouped $12 billion from Nawaz Sharif in addition to the billion dollars investment by KSA and UAE.

I would take these analysts views with a grain of salt. China does not disclose strategic information to these analysts. Their views are mere speculation.

What is public knowledge though, is that their economy has been hit due to trade war with trump.

So I would imagine the chinese are more tentative in terms of their investments.
 
Using a random analyst as a source is a really poor source lol.

Pakistan has a million of these analysts on tv. Their views are speculation and mot based on any evidence.

Even zaid hamid is an analyst :sarf2
 
Using a random analyst as a source is a really poor source lol.

Pakistan has a million of these analysts on tv. Their views are speculation and mot based on any evidence.

Even zaid hamid is an analyst :sarf2

I assume if China agreed to add new projects to the CEPC, it would have been publicly announced. So the analyst is likely not off the mark when he wrote "the China side showed a distinct lack of enthusiasm toward pumping more money into new projects".
 

I do not see any definite information about new projects in the links you provided other than:

1) "Chinese Ambassador to Pakistan Yao Jing on Friday said that his government was going to establish 19 factories in Gwadar to create job opportunities for the youth of Balochistan." This is vague. What is the size of these factories?

2) Possibly new extraction projects in Pakistan, where Pakistan is treated like an economic colony as China already treats many African countries.
 
We must be careful with China as well instead of blindly trusting them. Before we know it Pak will become Chinastan with a silent invasion of sorts. Always depending on them makes me incredibly uncomfortable as well. Ultimately, China like all countries will do what it right by itself not Pak.
 
I assume if China agreed to add new projects to the CEPC, it would have been publicly announced. So the analyst is likely not off the mark when he wrote "the China side showed a distinct lack of enthusiasm toward pumping more money into new projects".

Like I said in a previous post, Chinas economy was hit with the trade war with trump.

So I wouldn't be surprised if they are pulling back investment temporarily. This factor was not mentioned in the OP. Which takes credibility away from these so called analysts.

But to say that china is seeing pakistan as a bad investment, or is second guessing investing in CPEC is speculative with no evidence.
 
We must be careful with China as well instead of blindly trusting them. Before we know it Pak will become Chinastan with a silent invasion of sorts. Always depending on them makes me incredibly uncomfortable as well. Ultimately, China like all countries will do what it right by itself not Pak.

Of course should not go in blind. Need to do due diligence and only take investment that makes sense.

At the same time need to realize that no other country is willing to invest in pakistan at the moment at this scale. China has been pakistans closest ally, closer than saudi Arabia even.

Need a balance for sure.
 
Of course should not go in blind. Need to do due diligence and only take investment that makes sense.

At the same time need to realize that no other country is willing to invest in pakistan at the moment at this scale. China has been pakistans closest ally, closer than saudi Arabia even.

Need a balance for sure.

I feel we are trusting them too much here. We depend on them fr everything it seems.
 
So this article was written by Malik Siraj Akbar, that guy was a literally militant in Balochistan then fled to America and used to run an anti-Pakistani website funded by India. OP thinks we're stupid and are going to gloss over who the author is loool.
 
Like I said in a previous post, Chinas economy was hit with the trade war with trump.

So I wouldn't be surprised if they are pulling back investment temporarily. This factor was not mentioned in the OP. Which takes credibility away from these so called analysts.

But to say that china is seeing pakistan as a bad investment, or is second guessing investing in CPEC is speculative with no evidence.

You make good points.
 
OP hasn't responded but before anyone else takes this article seriously.

"In October 2011, Akbar was granted political asylum in the United States owing to threats he said he faced from the Pakistani military authorities due to his outspoken writings that exposed human rights abuses in his native Balochistan.["

OP wont be back in this thread. :shezzy2

That is exactly why he has credibility.

As a journalist, if the majority of Pakistan thinks of you as anti-Pakistan and a traitor, and if the military wants to put a muzzle on your mouth, then you know that you are telling the truth and pointing out inconvenient facts. Hence, his background makes him a very credible source compared to the paid stooges in the media who only propagate establishment propaganda.
 
LOL, you are turning in to a joke

But let me entertain you since probably only entertain you have to enjoy.

You are talking as if NS, Zardari and your newly proclaimed love for a party, JUI, would have magically printed $$ out of thin air.

Relax.

IK isn't going on where, NS will.

Soon Zardari will, too.

It is about trust and credibility. The Chinese don’t trust us because we don’t have a shred of credibility.

Furthermore, they are also not buying our ** story of recouping $12 billion from Nawaz which is why they don’t trust us to pay them on time. That is why they don’t want to sign new projects until we pay them for the existing ones.

Sure that money cannot be printed out of thin air. However, if the Chinese had any faith in the fictitious plot, they would trust our capability to pay them in the future.

Imran is in a tough spot at the moment. The Chinese don’t have faith in his competency, the military have allowed Nawaz to leave the country and Imran has no choice but to follow the $12 billion script that has been handed to him by the GHQ.
 
That is exactly why he has credibility.

As a journalist, if the majority of Pakistan thinks of you as anti-Pakistan and a traitor, and if the military wants to put a muzzle on your mouth, then you know that you are telling the truth and pointing out inconvenient facts. Hence, his background makes him a very credible source compared to the paid stooges in the media who only propagate establishment propaganda.

Or the more likely version, he faked the threats so he could move to a western country.
 
Or the more likely version, he faked the threats so he could move to a western country.

As a journalist in Pakistan, if you are not a paid military stooge and are not as big as Hamid Mir, Talat Hussain or a few others, you are better off moving to another country if you don’t want to go “missing”.
 
The OP is a trojan horse. Pakistan being blessed with positives news of late means the Troll-bot in the OP is trying to spice things up for his daily dose of attention. Notice how the message moves from China to the Nooras. It's what we call a last ditch hope after a pistol whipping.

Nothing to see here, move along.
 
Or the more likely version, he faked the threats so he could move to a western country.

I worked in the fruit farm as kid and some guys from PK pretended to by Qadyanis to get asylum, in this was the early 90s. Its an old trick
 
It is about trust and credibility. The Chinese don’t trust us because we don’t have a shred of credibility.

Furthermore, they are also not buying our ** story of recouping $12 billion from Nawaz which is why they don’t trust us to pay them on time. That is why they don’t want to sign new projects until we pay them for the existing ones.

Sure that money cannot be printed out of thin air. However, if the Chinese had any faith in the fictitious plot, they would trust our capability to pay them in the future.

Imran is in a tough spot at the moment. The Chinese don’t have faith in his competency, the military have allowed Nawaz to leave the country and Imran has no choice but to follow the $12 billion script that has been handed to him by the GHQ.

Absolutely nothing you’ve said that can be backed up factually and you haven’t provided any evidence.

Just your usual rant.

Come back with some evidence otherwise this thread is a waste of space.
 
That is exactly why he has credibility.

As a journalist, if the majority of Pakistan thinks of you as anti-Pakistan and a traitor, and if the military wants to put a muzzle on your mouth, then you know that you are telling the truth and pointing out inconvenient facts. Hence, his background makes him a very credible source compared to the paid stooges in the media who only propagate establishment propaganda.

He has credibility because he is ran away after attacking the state? lol

This man has no credibility because he is a traitor, perhaps thats why you think he has?
 
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He has credibility because he is ran away after attacking the state? lol

This man has no credibility because he is a traitor, perhaps thats why you think he has?

He has credibility because he has been dubbed a traitor by the military establishment. If they are against you, it is because you are exposing the truth that they want people to hear and see. Also, it is quite common for “traitor” journalists like him to leave the country. Why would you stay in a place if your life and well-being is in danger because of the authorities?
 
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He has credibility because he has been dubbed a traitor by the military establishment. If they are against you, it is because you are exposing the truth that they want people to hear and see. Also, it is quite common for “traitor” journalists like him to leave the country. Why would you stay in a place if your life and well-being is in danger because of the authorities?

His articles were anti-Pakistan and he met with terrorist leaders in Balochistan. If anyone in the UK or US did the same, they would be locked up quickly but he was given the chance to leave Pakistan.

Has he ever written about Indian presence in his province? How they are sending terrorists across the border? etc? Or if people die because of India it's fine?
 
His articles were anti-Pakistan and he met with terrorist leaders in Balochistan. If anyone in the UK or US did the same, they would be locked up quickly but he was given the chance to leave Pakistan.

Has he ever written about Indian presence in his province? How they are sending terrorists across the border? etc? Or if people die because of India it's fine?

His articles were anti-Pakistan only for those who have been victims of the establishment propaganda that has brainwashed the people of Pakistan for 72 years. There is no point in blaming India for Balochistan because it is down to our own undoing. We illegally occupied Kalat (a district of Balochistan) after partition when they refused to join Pakistan, and there has been an insurgency ever since.

We have deliberately kept the province poor and uneducated to ensure that the insurgency does not gain movement. We tried the same in East Pakistan but failed spectacularly because of geographic constraints.

I am not denying that India has had a hand in Balochistan and have supported and armed the separatist movement. However, they have every right to get back at us for supporting, funding and arming militants in J&K and sending our home-grown terrorists.
 
His articles were anti-Pakistan only for those who have been victims of the establishment propaganda that has brainwashed the people of Pakistan for 72 years. There is no point in blaming India for Balochistan because it is down to our own undoing. We illegally occupied Kalat (a district of Balochistan) after partition when they refused to join Pakistan, and there has been an insurgency ever since.

We have deliberately kept the province poor and uneducated to ensure that the insurgency does not gain movement. We tried the same in East Pakistan but failed spectacularly because of geographic constraints.

I am not denying that India has had a hand in Balochistan and have supported and armed the separatist movement. However, they have every right to get back at us for supporting, funding and arming militants in J&K and sending our home-grown terrorists.

This is yet another treasounous statement. After schoolchildren being bombed by India, you are now openly supporting state sponsered terrorism in Pakistan, killing innocent women and children.

Your hero , the writer met with terrrorist leaders who have bombed Pakistan. He is a traitor just like guess who?..... You wont address this point.
 
His articles were anti-Pakistan only for those who have been victims of the establishment propaganda that has brainwashed the people of Pakistan for 72 years. There is no point in blaming India for Balochistan because it is down to our own undoing. We illegally occupied Kalat (a district of Balochistan) after partition when they refused to join Pakistan, and there has been an insurgency ever since.

We have deliberately kept the province poor and uneducated to ensure that the insurgency does not gain movement. We tried the same in East Pakistan but failed spectacularly because of geographic constraints.

I am not denying that India has had a hand in Balochistan and have supported and armed the separatist movement. However, they have every right to get back at us for supporting, funding and arming militants in J&K and sending our home-grown terrorists.

"We have deliberately kept the province poor". Did you see the blatant lie from the Nooras about the Western Route under CPEC? Its interesting that a mental midget like you couldn't even bring himself to comment on blatant lies by Nooras and such a big lie that could have changed lives. So save your fake rona dona.
 
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