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It was a year ago Sunday that Canadian officials arrested Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver International Airport on an extradition request from the United States. A lot has happened since then.

Beijing retaliated by jailing two Canadians in China on trumped-up security charges, and has been holding them as political hostages ever since. Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig have reportedly been subjected to conditions that are considered torture by human-rights groups. China also banned some Canadian agricultural products.

Ms. Meng, who is the daughter of the founder of the Chinese telecom Huawei, meanwhile lives in a Vancouver mansion, free on bail, and has all the protections of the rule of law.

Also in the past year, China has been exposed as operating concentration camps filled with hundreds of thousands of Uyghur Muslims and other religious minorities, and in which prisoners are subjected to brainwashing, beatings and rape.

In Hong Kong, citizens have been demonstrating against Beijing’s puppet territorial government for months. The movement began as a protest against a law, since abandoned, that would have allowed Hong Kong people to be extradited to China; it has since grown into a fight for justice in the wake of police brutality against demonstrators, to give the territory full democracy and to protect its autonomy from the tentacles of the Chinese Communist Party under Xi Jinping.

Ottawa’s responses have been muted, because it wants economic ties with China and won’t dare further anger a dictatorship that doesn’t practise diplomacy so much as bully its smaller partners into silence.

The Trudeau government reconfirmed its hope of returning to business as usual when, in September, it named Dominic Barton as the new ambassador to China. He is the former head of the consultancy McKinsey & Company, a firm whose business operations in China depend upon Beijing’s favour.

Our position has suffered in comparison with that of the United States. The U.S. Congress recently passed bipartisan legislation defending Hong Kong’s democracy and imposing sanctions on Chinese and Hong Kong officials found responsible for human-rights abuses in the territory.

That led Emily Lau, one of the leading lights of Hong Kong’s democracy movement, to call on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to “have some guts” and stand up to China.

That’s one way of putting it. It would require a great deal of political courage on the part of a country the size of Canada to denounce every one of the atrocities occurring in Mr. Xi’s China, or to impose sanctions on Chinese officials.

We don’t punch in the same weight class as the United States. China would fire back with more economic punishment, Canadian farmers would lose more money and Canadian industries would find themselves shut out by Beijing. The domestic pressure to relent would be immense.

That’s why “guts” isn’t the answer. Canada needs to be smart, and exploit Beijing’s weaknesses.

The biggest one is the Chinese economy. Mr. Xi’s Orwellian surveillance state needs steady economic growth to keep Chinese citizens passive. Mr. Trump’s trade war has slowed China’s growth and made the Communist Party a bit more vulnerable than it would like.

You could see that in the threat made by China’s ambassador to Canada after the U.S. legislation standing up for Hong Kong was passed. “If anything happens like this, we will certainly have very bad damage in our bilateral relationship,” he said of a possible similar action by Ottawa.

The last thing China wants is a co-ordinated, global effort calling out its abuses. Which means there ought to be just such an effort. Instead of letting Beijing isolate it, Ottawa should explore strategic alliances that would prevent that from happening.

Which leads to China’s other weakness: Its actions in Hong Kong are a violation of the treaty it signed when it took over the territory from the British in 1997.

Beijing agreed to a “gradual and orderly” evolution to universal suffrage in Hong Kong. Instead, under Mr. Xi, it has moved in the opposite direction.

If democratic countries stood up as one and demanded that it live up to its commitments, it would be difficult for China to carry out retaliation.

Instead, too many countries like Canada are leaving it to brave Hong Kongers to battle alone for something the entire world has a stake in. We can do better.


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-china-wants-canada-to-shut-up-thats-exactly-why-we-shouldnt/
 
Beijing’s harshness is forcing Canada to rethink its China delusions

The one silver lining in the extradition case against Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou, now entering its second year, is that Beijing’s behaviour has awakened Canadians – including senior members of the Trudeau government – to the nature of China’s Communist Party regime. Many in Ottawa and the business community had talked themselves into believing fantasies about the hard men who run Beijing. Some imagined that, although China might play rough with other countries, Canada would somehow be entitled to special treatment.

Instead, Beijing has spent the last year giving Canada a special education in how it sees our not-at-all special relationship.

We should be thankful for the lessons. The Trudeau government, and the entire political and business establishment, must study them carefully. It may allow this country to finally get over its China delusions.

China, and the Communist regime that runs it, are not going anywhere. We will have to deal with them, hopefully on peaceful and respectful terms, for a long time to come. But the starting point for the relationship has to be Canada being honest with itself about who we are dealing with.

When Canada followed the rules of its extradition treaty with its closest ally, Beijing had no hesitation in taking two of our citizens hostage – there is no other way to describe what happened to Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig – with the price of ransom being Ms. Meng’s release.

All the decades’ worth of treacly odes to Dr. Norman Bethune, Mao’s pet Canadian; all the gratitude Canada supposed it was owed for early recognition of the Communist regime; all the alleged reverence for Trudeau père that allegedly would carry over to Trudeau fils – all turned out to be worth exactly nothing.

Totalitarian dictatorships are not sentimental. That’s not something Canada should have had to learn.

The two Michaels are of course still locked up, and there is no sign of their release. Yet despite the importance of their condition, the long-term goal of Canada’s China foreign policy is bigger than securing the safe return of two innocents.

Canada of course has to continue to demand their release. But it is essential that Ottawa understand that our prisoners in Beijing are also levers that can be used to pressure Canada into going silent on other matters – human rights, the rule of law, Chinese spying, Hong Kong, and a long list of worries that Washington and other Western governments have – in favour of focusing on what China wants, and how it wants Canada to behave so as to avoid being subjected to future hostage-takings.

Canada has never had a relationship like this. The Soviet Union was a superpower, but it was also a clear adversary. We joined the world’s most important military alliance to oppose it, and it was part of a separate economic system, with which we had almost no trade. The lines between the two worlds were thick and bright.

China, in contrast, is part of all of the formerly “Western” or “developed” world’s main institutions. It is our second-most important economic relationship, after the United States. And China is an economic success story; its growth over the past four decades has lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty.

Yet China is also run by a regime that operates rather similar to how the Trump administration would if it were unfettered by such basic constraints as elections, independent judges, free speech or the rule of law.

While there was a time when its party dictatorship appeared to be moving closer to democratic norms, with the Communist Party dispensing with cults of personality and loosening party control, under Xi Jinping that trend is aggressively reversing. It is now clear that Beijing joined the international community’s institutions without sharing the international community’s practices and values.

To survive in this new world, Canada needs allies and alliances. Beijing has become expert at playing divide-and-conquer, punishing those who don’t do as they’re told and rewarding those that go along to get along. And too many, including Canada, have too often been too ready to go along.

From Sussex Drive to Bay Street, a lot of people would like nothing better than for the past year’s nastiness to be forgotten. But that would mean forgetting all the valuable lessons learned.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/editorials/article-beijings-harshness-is-forcing-canada-to-rethink-its-china-delusions/
 
Canada has no spine.

First they act like a US vassal by arresting Huawei’s CFO, and now, they don’t want to sabotage their relationship with China due to economic ties.
 
I think China has wiped the floor with Canada, Canada has allowed years of real estate investment into it by Chinese citizens and they cannot anger Chinese.

Absolute respect for the way Chinese have played this, economic powerhouse it is!
 
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Interesting development I remember reading an article where it was mentioned that the biggest Chinese real estate investments are in Canada or Toronto?
 
I think China has wiped the floor with Canada, Canada has allowed years of real estate investment into it by Chinese citizens and they cannot anger Chinese.

Absolute respect for the way Chinese have played this, economic powerhouse it is!

Interesting development I remember reading an article where it was mentioned that the biggest Chinese real estate investments are in Canada or Toronto?

Yup, at one time value of the properties in Toronto area were in increment of 100K per year.
 
Yup, at one time value of the properties in Toronto area were in increment of 100K per year.

Absolutely

Canada have failed to contain the investment from Chinese national that have skyrocketed the real estate prices to a point where almost 90-95% of folks can’t even think of owning a place.

Look at Toronto downtown, almost all condos are being built by Chinese money. Now-a-days 1 BDR condo is going for $500K-600K and asking $100K for a parking spot :facepalm:

Tough time to be living in Toronto or Canada in general.
 
BEIJING – China said on Dec 22 it was taking countermeasures against two Canadian institutions and 20 people involved in human issues concerning the Uighurs and Tibet.

The measures, which took effect on Dec 21, include asset freezes and bans on entry.

The targets include Canada’s Uighur Rights Advocacy Project and the Canada-Tibet Committee, China’s Foreign Ministry announces on its website.

Rights groups accuse Beijing of widespread abuses of Uighurs, a mainly Muslim ethnic minority that numbers around 10 million in the western region of Xinjiang, including the mass use of forced labour in camps. Beijing denies any abuses.

China seized control of Tibet in 1950 in what it describes as a “peaceful liberation” from feudalistic serfdom.

International human rights groups and exiles, however, have routinely condemnedwhat they call China’s oppressive rule in Tibetan areas.

For the two institutions, China said it was freezing their “movable property, immovable property and other types of property within the territory of China”.


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@The Bald Eagle
Looks like Jay Shankar is minister in China too? Since Dec 14 consistently China Canada Relationship is even more strained.
 
Countries which have been humiliated the most in 2024

Canada
Iran
Bangladesh
All of Mid Western Europe
 
@The Bald Eagle
Looks like Jay Shankar is minister in China too? Since Dec 14 consistently China Canada Relationship is even more strained.

Canada has strained its relationships with USA, China, Russia, Bharat.

Some great leadership by Justin Trudeau. In a world where everyone is looking to form new alliances for the future sake he’s not only breaking the bridges for such new alliances but is also making traditional allies like the US paying Canada no attention

It’s been a bad bad year for Canada and they absolutely deserve it for all of their diplomatic blunders
 
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Canada has strained its relationships with USA, China, Russia, Bharat.

Some great leadership by Justin Trudeau. In a world where everyone is looking to form new alliances for the future sake he’s not only breaking the bridges for such new alliances but is also making traditional allies like the US paying Canada no attention

It’s been a bad bad year for Canada and they absolutely deserve it for all of their diplomatic blunders
Also strained relations with Iran, Saudi.
 
BEIJING – China said on Dec 22 it was taking countermeasures against two Canadian institutions and 20 people involved in human issues concerning the Uighurs and Tibet.

The measures, which took effect on Dec 21, include asset freezes and bans on entry.

The targets include Canada’s Uighur Rights Advocacy Project and the Canada-Tibet Committee, China’s Foreign Ministry announces on its website.

Rights groups accuse Beijing of widespread abuses of Uighurs, a mainly Muslim ethnic minority that numbers around 10 million in the western region of Xinjiang, including the mass use of forced labour in camps. Beijing denies any abuses.

China seized control of Tibet in 1950 in what it describes as a “peaceful liberation” from feudalistic serfdom.

International human rights groups and exiles, however, have routinely condemnedwhat they call China’s oppressive rule in Tibetan areas.

For the two institutions, China said it was freezing their “movable property, immovable property and other types of property within the territory of China”.


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It was freezing the property in China of 15 people in the Uighur institution and five on the Tibet committee, banning them from entering China, including Hong Kong and Macau. REUTERS


@The Bald Eagle
Looks like Jay Shankar is minister in China too? Since Dec 14 consistently China Canada Relationship is even more strained.
Their opposition to China is obvious, ie bloc politics but the issue with India is about state sponsored terrorism
 
Their opposition to China is obvious, ie bloc politics but the issue with India is about state sponsored terrorism

No matter how hard you try no one is buying Pakistani people’s allegations of Hindus being terrorists.

There is no external validation.
 
Their opposition to China is obvious, ie bloc politics but the issue with India is about state sponsored terrorism
They are against the Chinese state too, they have issues against Saudi as well, there is no bloc issue there..
 
The outlets only say West bloc is putting sanctions on Pakistan Missiles entities not sanctions yet on Indian state.
Loving it, finally Pakistan government needs to get out from their deep slumber and reset foreign relations.
 
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