Christian persecution: One dead after attackers storm Indian church and shoot worshippers

[MenInG]

The attack happened at a Pentecostal church in the Punjab state, raising fears among the local Christian communities for their safety as the call for increased protection from the Punjabi government. The targeted church is located in Amritsar, the state’s largest city and the site of Sikhism’s main place of worship, the Golden Temple.

According to the Union of Catholic Asian News (UCAN), four people armed with guns stormed the church as Christians were leaving a meeting on Friday, October 23.

The network did not say if the assailants were men or women.

Witness Jaspal Masih, whose father is the church pastor said he immediately dropped to the floor when he heard the sound of bullets being fired.

He told UCAN: “Four persons armed with guns entered the church and opened fire at us.

“I laid flat on the ground and saved my life.”

Mr Masih’s cousin was not so lucky and died in the attack.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...stianity-church-Punjab-attack-Christians-shot

 

[Nadeemp]

Who were the attackers

 

[Vegitto1]

Who were the attackers

IF Attackers Muslims THEN Attackers = Terrorists

IF Attackers NOT Muslims THEN Attackers = Criminals

AND IF Attackers NOT Muslims and NOT Dark Skin THEN Attacker = Person suffering from Mental health issues.

 

[Nadeemp]

IF Attackers Muslims THEN Attackers = Terrorists

IF Attackers NOT Muslims THEN Attackers = Criminals

AND IF Attackers NOT Muslims and NOT Dark Skin THEN Attacker = Person suffering from Mental health issues.

This was in India. So skin color thing does not apply. Terrorist no matter what

 

[Itachi]

IF Attackers Muslims THEN Attackers = Terrorists

IF Attackers NOT Muslims THEN Attackers = Criminals

AND IF Attackers NOT Muslims and NOT Dark Skin THEN Attacker = Person suffering from Mental health issues.

No one:

Vegitto1: (comes out with discrimination against Muslim agenda)

This is what reaction without provocation.

 

[Syed1]

Shining India

 

[Lurker_Ind]

This is Isis style attack. Hope the culprits get caught.

 

[MenInG]

This is Isis style attack. Hope the culprits get caught.

Good try.

Have some shame.

 

[Vegitto1]

No one:

Vegitto1: (comes out with discrimination against Muslim agenda)

This is what reaction without provocation.

Lol, don't get touchy. I am just saying that when we eventually find out the identity of the attackers, how it is likely to be portrayed.

For me a criminal is a criminal and that does not change depending on what religion he is or what his motive for the crime was. I am against people using the phrase 'Hindu extremist' as much as 'Islamic terrorist' - these are oxymoron's and people using them are simply morons.

 

[Nadeemp]

This is Isis style attack. Hope the culprits get caught.

Any proof

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Good try.

Have some shame.

What?

 

[MenInG]

What?

Casually introducing ISIS in it with some reference to Islam.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Any proof

I am not saying isis did it. Going to a church and opening fire is something I never heard in India.

 

[MenInG]

I am not saying isis did it. Going to a church and opening fire is something I never heard in India.

You have never heard of Hindu Extremists killing people in India?

 

[Lurker_Ind]

You have never heard of Hindu Extremists killing people in India?

Christian killing is not new in India. But attacking church and shooting worshippers and that too in Punjab of all states is new for me.

 

[Nadeemp]

Christian killing is not new in India. But attacking church and shooting worshippers and that too in Punjab of all states is new for me.

Well let’s see who the lucky winner is shall we.

 

[CricketCartoons]

The killer was a sikh and a congress leader. Old rivalry blamed.

https://indianexpress.com/article/c...-firing-at-church-old-rivalry-blamed-6854699/

 

[Bhaijaan]

I stand with my Christian brothers.

 

[Vegitto1]

The killer was a sikh and a congress leader. Old rivalry blamed.

https://indianexpress.com/article/c...-firing-at-church-old-rivalry-blamed-6854699/

And we have an unexpected winner!

Attacker's religious Identity: Sikh
Cause: Personal feud (for which he had to go into a church and open fire at worshippers)

 

[CricketCartoons]

I stand with my Christian brothers.

On second thoughts, may not be a sikh. Randeep Singh Gill, do punjabi hindus have gill surname too?

 

[Vegitto1]

On second thoughts, may not be a sikh. Randeep Singh Gill, do punjabi hindus have gill surname too?

Please make up your mind!

 

[CricketCartoons]

And we have an unexpected winner!

Attacker's religious Identity: Sikh
Cause: Personal feud (for which he had to go into a church and open fire at worshippers)

Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Please make up your mind!

I will never make up my mind. Sorry to disappoint you again.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

And we have an unexpected winner!

Attacker's religious Identity: Sikh
Cause: Personal feud (for which he had to go into a church and open fire at worshippers)

Indeed unexpected. This should be treated as a Terrorist attack as he did the crime in a religious place.

 

[Hornbill]

The killer was a sikh and a congress leader. Old rivalry blamed.

https://indianexpress.com/article/c...-firing-at-church-old-rivalry-blamed-6854699/

He is not wearing a turban in pics available. Yuvraj singh type sikh ?

 

[CricketCartoons]

He is not wearing a turban in pics available. Yuvraj singh type sikh ?

Not sure, Gill is a common Sikh surname, but I wont be surprised if it is used by punjabi hindus. Doesn't matter though. What looked like a hate crime attack on a church, was a murder due to old rivalry.

 

[Bhaijaan]

On second thoughts, may not be a sikh. Randeep Singh Gill, do punjabi hindus have gill surname too?

No.

Gill is sikh jatt

 

[Lurker_Ind]

He is not wearing a turban in pics available. Yuvraj singh type sikh ?

The Killer Randeep Singh Gill is the leader of the local Valmiki community. I thought Valmiki community is a tribal community and comes under Scheduled Tribes.

 

[Hornbill]

Indeed unexpected. This should be treated as a Terrorist attack as he did the crime in a religious place.

Culprit is a leader of secular party so we can use recently formed term secular extremism

 

[CricketCartoons]

No.

Gill is sikh jatt

A jatt can be hindu too. Is Gill exclusive to sikhs?

 

[CricketCartoons]

The Killer Randeep Singh Gill is the leader of the local Valmiki community. I thought Valmiki community is a tribal community and comes under Scheduled Tribes.

Valmiki is not a tribe, but comes under Scheduled Caste.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Valmiki is not a tribe, but comes under Scheduled Caste.

Thanks. So a Jatt Sikh is a leader of a Scheduled Caste community and opens fire at a church due to rivalry. Does not add up for me.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Thanks. So a Jatt Sikh is a leader of a Scheduled Caste community and opens fire at a church due to rivalry. Does not add up for me.

Only thing matters here is not the identity (whether sikh, dalit, hindu), but what was the reason for rivalry.

 

[JaDed]

RIP, hopefully gets punished.

 

[srh]

I am not saying isis did it. Going to a church and opening fire is something I never heard in India.

what are you on about? did you forgot hindu extremists burning a Priest and his young children alive in India? they all died

 

[BreadPakoda]

So the attacker is neither Muslim nor a Hindu. I guess that means disappointment all around.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

what are you on about? did you forgot hindu extremists burning a Priest and his young children alive in India? they all died

Hindutva folks only burn in public or burn houses. Shooting in religious places is not their style.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Hindutva folks only burn in public or burn houses. Shooting in religious places is not their style.

How many cases of burning by hindutva groups you are aware of?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Hindutva folks only burn in public or burn houses. Shooting in religious places is not their style.

I have seen them wielding swords as well in recent memory, perhaps for ceremonial purposes.

 

[Bhaijaan]

A jatt can be hindu too. Is Gill exclusive to sikhs?

That's why i said Jatt sikh.

 

[sweep_shot]

Disturbing news. It is not the first time it has happened apparently.

Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Christians_in_India.

 

[ahmedzee]

This is Isis style attack. Hope the culprits get caught.

I am not saying isis did it. Going to a church and opening fire is something I never heard in India.

Lol, first implying ISIS is behind this and then saying you didn't say that. Come on! Have some guts in openly saying stuff. We know your hatred for Muslims is so evident. I even called you out for that in other thread.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Lol, first implying ISIS is behind this and then saying you didn't say that. Come on! Have some guts in openly saying stuff. We know your hatred for Muslims is so evident. I even called you out for that in other thread.

ISIS style attack means ISIS did it? Learn the meaning of style.

Supporting Free speech does not mean hatred for Muslims. I do not hate any people. I only post against religious ideologies. People can always change. Ideologies do not.

 

[Madplayer]

Hindutva folks only burn in public or burn houses. Shooting in religious places is not their style.

Hindutva folks do shoot in Kashmir.

 

[ahmedzee]

ISIS style attack means ISIS did it? Learn the meaning of style.

Supporting Free speech does not mean hatred for Muslims. I do not hate any people. I only post against religious ideologies. People can always change. Ideologies do not.

Same "free speech" non-sense that Charlie Hebdo came with and showing their Islamophobia. You are no different. You were implying ISIS when you said ISIS style. Come on! When you say ISIS style, who else would conduct ISIS style attach other than ISIS. I have seen your posts recently and they reek of Islamophobia, and justification to kill Muslims. Look at yourself in the mirror and think if you are even a human being.

 

[Lurker_Ind]

Same "free speech" non-sense that Charlie Hebdo came with and showing their Islamophobia. You are no different. You were implying ISIS when you said ISIS style. Come on! When you say ISIS style, who else would conduct ISIS style attach other than ISIS. I have seen your posts recently and they reek of Islamophobia, and justification to kill Muslims. Look at yourself in the mirror and think if you are even a human being.

Anybody can copy the ISIS style. Its not patented by ISIS. I am happy that I have a fan following my posts.

 

[Mesozoic]

Hope justice gets served to the victims.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Disturbing news. It is not the first time it has happened apparently.

Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Christians_in_India.

Its decades old but hidden in the Indian media who are supportive of RSS mentality.

Orissa has seen churches burnt to the ground, with many murdered.

This incident is doesnt seem to be related.

 

[ahmedzee]

Anybody can copy the ISIS style. Its not patented by ISIS. I am happy that I have a fan following my posts.

Don't feel so special. I am not following you. I follow threads and the user that keeps coming across as Islamophobic is you.