CIA Torture techniques made public

[Ismailtoca]

Apparently the CIA hid techniques from the senate itself. Also, they overstated the benefits of said torture techniques.

Below is one of the many news articles covering this

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-s-senate-report-condemns-cia-harsh-interrogations-1.2865440


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[Saeed]

More propoganda for terrorists to recruit more people.

 

[AlCapone]

Well at least they've revealed their torture techniques, India & Pakistan, and other eastern countries including Israel would never reveal their torture techniques or prosecute high ranking army officers unless they were involved in sedition, so I don't measure the CIA on a different scale.

 

[Saeed]

Well at least they've revealed their torture techniques, India & Pakistan, and other eastern countries including Israel would never reveal their torture techniques or prosecute high ranking army officers unless they were involved in sedition, so I don't measure the CIA on a different scale.

What difference does it make? America is supposed to exceptional and if they keep torturing people then there is no difference between them and countries like Israel or India.

 

[Saj]

Apparently the torture produced no results either.

 

[Markhor]

The CIA lied to Congress about it and the details of torture are quite repulsive. One CIA officer threatened a suspect's mother with rape. Some suspects were made to stand on broken legs for hours on end. Some were threatened with deportation to Mubarak's Egypt or Assad's Syria if they didn't talk.

The report also said none of these "enhanced interrogation techniques" yielded any life-saving results ! Absolutely shameful.

 

[Buffet]

Torture normally is a lousy way to get any intelligence.

 

[Ismailtoca]

Hope they get prosecuted. But it looks very bleak for anything to happen. Prolly be forgotten in a few days

 

[RexRex]

Torture normally is a lousy way to get any intelligence.

I'm not buying what the report says regarding efficiency.

The last thing you would publicize to the world and its numerous regimes out there is that torture is a successful tool to extract info even that were the truth .. the narrative they would peddle is that torture is useless blah blah ..discourage enemies to try that route...It was in all likelihood a huge success given that they eventually got to OBL.

 

[Saeed]

I'm not buying what the report says regarding efficiency.

The last thing you would publicize to the world and its numerous regimes out there is that torture is a successful tool to extract info even that were the truth .. the narrative they would peddle is that torture is useless blah blah ..discourage enemies to try that route...It was in all likelihood a huge success given that they eventually got to OBL.

You're trying justify torture, nothing else.
Are you actually trying to prove that these numerous regimes sit there waiting for others to prove that torture is successful? Insane people are going to try it, regardless of what anyone has to say. This is such a lazy reason and I hardly doubt that anyone willing to use torture as a tool to convince people would be discouraged by this report.

 

[filthyfulltoss]

I'm not buying what the report says regarding efficiency.

The last thing you would publicize to the world and its numerous regimes out there is that torture is a successful tool to extract info even that were the truth .. the narrative they would peddle is that torture is useless blah blah ..discourage enemies to try that route...It was in all likelihood a huge success given that they eventually got to OBL.

Are the other regimes of the world mentally deficient to come to that conclusion themselves? LOL

 

[Buffet]

I'm not buying what the report says regarding efficiency.

The last thing you would publicize to the world and its numerous regimes out there is that torture is a successful tool to extract info even that were the truth .. the narrative they would peddle is that torture is useless blah blah ..discourage enemies to try that route...It was in all likelihood a huge success given that they eventually got to OBL.

I wasn't going by this report. I was making a general statement.

 

[Laparwah]

America is helping the terrorists find even more recruits. The WOT has been a complete failure, they may as well accept it.

 

[Anfield]

I'm not buying what the report says regarding efficiency.

The last thing you would publicize to the world and its numerous regimes out there is that torture is a successful tool to extract info even that were the truth .. the narrative they would peddle is that torture is useless blah blah ..discourage enemies to try that route...It was in all likelihood a huge success given that they eventually got to OBL.

It was senate inquiry. They didn't volunteer to disclose these facts. 'Tortures didn't work' statements presented with facts and documents.

 

[OZGOD]

Apparently the torture produced no results either.

Torture usually only makes people tell you what they think you want to hear to make the torture stop.

As AlCapone said though, credit to the Seppos for releasing this information despite knowing the blowback.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

CIA hitting back now and releasing info that the torture was authorised and in fact instigated by Bush and his cabinet.

 

[CricketCartoons]

what is the best way to make people tell the truth?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

It's no big secret anyway, I can remember during the aftermath of 9/11 there were plenty of articles in the British press about how we might need to use torture to get required information from suspects and we should prepare ourselves to accept the necessity. War can change the mood of entire nations in an instant. What seems horrific today can seem perfectly justifiable when the country is pumped for war.

 

[Ismailtoca]

what is the best way to make people tell the truth?

The most effective method is basically by treating them well and talking to them like friends, by which they will actually tell you the truth.

I think the best ever interrogator was Hanns Scharff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff)

Who never used torture

 

[CricketCartoons]

The most effective method is basically by treating them well and talking to them like friends, by which they will actually tell you the truth.

I think the best ever interrogator was Hanns Scharff (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff)

Who never used torture

I don't think it will work with everyone, especially hardened criminals or terrorists inspired by an ideology. i also dont think torture would work with everyone, but torture definitely has a place in interrogation.

 

[Markhor]

YouTorture produces unreliable information, people held in custody will say whatever it takes to get off the hook. The CIA have a budget of billions of taxpayers dollars, they are the most well-resourced spy agency in the world so should be able to obtain information through investigations and solid intelligence, and not resort to barbarism.

Governments are supposed to have laws and standards to abide by, not abandon them when its convenient. Terrorism is abhorrent and evil, governments should never stoop to their level. If western civilians are held in captivity by foreign governments - will it be OK for them to torture people too ?!

Or is that right reserved for the "land of the free/home of the brave" ? What a load of hypocritical cobblers these so-called American "values" turn out to be with every passing day. Its now the UK's turn, let's get all of this out into the open. Billions of taxpayers money has been wasted on this War on Terror and people deserve the truth.

 

[Ismailtoca]

I don't think it will work with everyone, especially hardened criminals or terrorists inspired by an ideology. i also dont think torture would work with everyone, but torture definitely has a place in interrogation.

[SUP][/SUP]

See these guys dont tell you stuff when you are asking them about the military but instead involuntarily tell you while they are talking about other random stuff.

 

[the Great Khan]

some interesting things i found out:

-prisoners made to prostrate to idols for religious humiliation purposes
-descretion of the Quran
-rectal feeding to make the prisoner open to suggestion
-making them stand with fractures- waiting for the fractures to heal then making em stand again
- torturing over a 100 prisoners to death
- chaining a prisoner to the floor who froze to death. Later found to be case of mistaken identity
- 70 yr old woman ridden like a horse

yes all this was done for "information"

 

[s28]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en-gb"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">US psychologists behind the CIA's torture program to face trial. <a href="https://t.co/Ipv0lhRdj5">pic.twitter.com/Ipv0lhRdj5</a></p>— CJ Werleman (@cjwerleman) <a href="https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/894926919954595840">8 August 2017</a></blockquote>
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[WhenSultansBowled]

"The CIA is a terrorist organization"

Youtube is trying to shadow sensor this video:

https://youtu.be/_2khAmMTAjI

Here is a mirror because Youtube won't let you watch the above video in peace:

https://vimeo.com/485722291

Here is the tweet from the creator JT Chapman (Second thought)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is going to be an important thread. We need to talk about YouTube, and private media operations in general<br><br>This thread was prompted by YouTube’s shadow ban of my new video, but that’s really just a minor inconvenience. The whole story involves YouTube, the DHS, and the CIA</p>— JT Chapman (@_SecondThought) <a href="https://twitter.com/_SecondThought/status/1332746158947635202?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So just thought people would like to know about this, because when I found out about it, it kind of gave me a good scare. JT Chapman, or better knows as Second Thought, uploaded a video about the CIA recently about how they are the biggest perpetuators of terrorism on the planet essentially. It seems after a time of everything looking good algorithm-wise regarding the video, it looks to have been pulled from discoverability, he has people asking why they can't see his new video in their feeds, not being notified he uploaded a new video, etc etc. So he took to Twitter to vent his frustrations about what had happened.

Where this is different however, is where he mentions that he received a visit from the DHS (Department of Homeland Security), and they talked to him about 'Anti-American sentiment' in his video about America's police brutality from a few months back. So yeah... pretty scary stuff. Just thought people here should be made aware of this, since I am sure there are many fans of Second Thought, and generally leftist media around these parts (duh).

Be sure to check out his video about the CIA being a terrorist organization, and give that video some more love if you can, and share it around! Also, here is his twitter thread about the visit from the DHS, attempting to intimidate him, for those who want to read about it!

I guess we can safely say that "Freedom of speech" is nothing but a tool.

 

[msaaim89]

[MENTION=139649]WhenSultansBowled[/MENTION]

I think it's already very common knowledge among other nations agencies and general populace. They just can't do anything about it with the US being the lone superpower since the demise of the USSR - they did have a balance check against the US.

It's more a wakeup call for the oblivious though they may well be the type to skip past and ignore anyway.

The restrictions of Youtube and other websites is another discussion altogether but certainly one that cannot be ignored. On this occasion it has been picked up - how many others have gone unnoticed?