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As said so many times, we should have lost many series before, but were lucky.
Well played SL.
Well played SL.
Congrats to Sri Lanka. We got what we deserved for trying to fix what wasn't broken by selecting an unbalanced bowling attack, moving Azhar from his opening spot and Sri Lanka just outplayed us.
Have to thank them for dropping a few chances yesterday otherwise it could have been complete phainty in this second test too.
Have to thank them for dropping a few chances yesterday otherwise it could have been complete phainty in this second test too.
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the first test was in the bag couldnt even chase 130 . so yes blame batsmen
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A good wake up call for the team who went into the series over confident and expected the Sri Lankans to roll over. We should have won the first test match for sure and have only ourselves to blame.
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It is not the 1st series loss for pakistan in UAE.
The first series loss for them was this.http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/60732.html
Anyway, this series defeat does not count.
Do runs against srilanka count ?
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Not the first series lost in the UAE.
The 2002 series was SL/UAE, so yes this is the first test series defeat in the UAE.
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Our luck in the UAE has finally run out. Our so-called dominance in the UAE was nothing but nonsense.
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If Pakistan had won the toss in both tests and batted first, the result would have been opposite. The pitches together with how the pink ball behaves over the course of the full 80 overs favoured the side batting first.
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Anyway, this series defeat does not count.
Do runs against srilanka count ?
According to [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION], they don't when an Indian scores a century, otherwise they may count.
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Congrats to Sri Lanka. They have some talented players. I'm sure they will at least compete outside of Asia once this team has more test experience. Same with there LO team.
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only to you and for obvious reasons.
Pakistan's dominance in the UAE was for a good reason and we failed to use the advantage this time around.
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Defeats to SA, NZ, SL and WI between 2013 and 2016 doesn't sound like dominance to me. Not to forget the Abu Dhabi Test vs England in 2015.
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That's hypothetical. The results are facts, and they are what matters.
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Here is the last 10 years in UAE with dominating performances in red. Pakistan has dominated Eng and Aus. Pakistan didn't dominate SA, NZ, SL and WI. WI won one test and ran Pakistan close in other. WI had won a grand total of 2 tests outside of WI in the last 10 years before threatening to win series in UAE.
Pakistan dominated 2 teams out of 6 visiting teams in UAE.
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The results might show that Pakistan dominated England, but that was not the case. England were robbed off a win at Abu Dhabi in 2015 due to bad light, and over the course of the 6 Tests they have probably won as many sessions as Pakistan did, but couldn't prevail in key moments.
Australia was the only team that got dominated both on paper and on the pitch.
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better to play fakhar zaman & salman butt in opening
azhar & haris solidin middle
bring fawad alam then asad shafiq followed by sarfaraz
PAKbowling is best no need to worry just play bowlers according to conditions
mickey arthur should not try to be oversmart in team selection
azhar & haris solidin middle
bring fawad alam then asad shafiq followed by sarfaraz
PAKbowling is best no need to worry just play bowlers according to conditions
mickey arthur should not try to be oversmart in team selection
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No doubt but the side batting first had a distinct advantage in this series as the pitch deteriorated and with a new pink ball it became very difficult to bat as the match progressed. Just look at the 3rd and 4th innings scores in both tests to see what I am talking about.
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Now this is what I call a well constructed argument.
So, should we go back and see how many times Pakistan won the toss and batted first and assume the results would have been other way around if the opposition has won the toss? Good for though exercises, but doesn't count much in the real world
Well, strictly speaking it wasn't a home series as one of those matches was played in Colombo.
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Dominance may not be the right word but Pakistan did not lose a series to SL with Sanga, ATG SA, #1 ranked England, and probably the best NZ side in the last 2 decades.
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No one will dispute if you say "Pakistan avoided losing in UAE." That will be a fact.
Avoiding loss and dominating teams are two different things.
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I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
In the last 7 years:
England have lost 12 tests at home.
India have lost 4 tests at home.
Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa have lost 7 tests at home.
Conditions in the UAE are not even hostile for visiting teams as compared to other countries. No wonder, except Australia, all teams have performed decently in the UAE.
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I was simply disputing the statement that Pakistan has dominated in UAE. You don't call it domination in a venue if you are failing to dominate 4 out of 6 visiting teams.
It has nothing to with how anyone else has done in any other place. Dominate means, you win against pretty much everyone or at least most of it comfortably.
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In the last 4 years, we have lost 6 Tests in the UAE. In fact, the Abu Dhabi Test vs England in 2015 was also a defeat for all purposes, because England were literally 15 minutes away from winning but bad light saved us. So that's 7 losses in 4 years, which is nothing but embarrassing to say the least.
Our-so called dominance in the UAE is a joke and that is why the cricketing world didn't take it seriously and didn't hype it up, only Pakistani fans kept reminding everyone how they haven't lost a series in spite of getting hammered in a match or two every series.
We have been one of the weakest teams in this decade both home and away, the number one ranking was a farce built on not having any tough away tour for years and luckily avoiding series defeats in the UAE against superior opposition.
England have been poor at home too but they have been much better away, and Australia, India and South Africa have been much better both home and away.
england away record shows otherwise??away i means in asia.
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England have lost 9 in the last 4 years. They have won just 4 away tests out of 22. One of them was in WI and one in Bangladesh. Except winning 2 tests in the SA on their "bad days" when SA was tired and demoralized from the Indian tour.
Out of Pakistan's 6 test losses, 3 have come when Younis and Misbah had either retired or were barely the batsmen they were an years ago.
It does not matter if anybody rates winning in the UAE. There is a hype machine behind England, India, and Australia. SA has won a series in Australia without AB and Steyn. What hype did they get?
India is currently ranked #1. How many away series have they played in the last 2 years?
One thing that you are completely ignoring on purpose is the conditions in the UAE. India can serve rank turners. Australia has been serving roads. England can always use clouds. What is the home advantage Pakistan is receiving in the UAE? the UAE actually offers the easiest conditions to the visiting team. That is why most of the teams have competed well in the UAE.
Nobody ever called Pakistan an ATG team. As a team, they did well in the UAE by remaining undefeated. There is no need to over analyze it.
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In this decade, England have won Test series in Australia, India and South Africa. They were thrashed in India last year but they have won three huge series away from hime.
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England have lost quite a few series but they have beaten Australia, India and South Africa away in this decade. It doesn't get better than that, I would happily have Pakistan lose plenty of matches but win Test series in these three countries.
Secondly, doctoring pitches would backfire for us because of the brittle batting lineup. There is no guarantee that we will be more successful on rank turners or pacer-friendly pitches, since our batting can collapse like a deck of cards against any opposition.
Our game against spin even in the presence of Younis and Misbah was massively overrated, even though Younis himself was great against spin, but he along with everyone else was not good enough against swing and seam. Whole Pakistan lineup is and was flat track and slow turner bully.
India have not played overseas in the last 2 years but they have been very dominant in Asia unlike us.
away in asia they have won 5 years back but badly thrashed after that even bangladesh drew series with eng,,if u count away like eng in SA then pak win in bangladesh and wi plus srilnka comes .but u know the answer they even drew with wi where we won..
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