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Comparison of the expected India vs Pakistan XIs at the 2019 World Cup

Kohli The King of Chase

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With just about an year left, our unbreakable streak is set to be challenged once again.

We easily won against you over years, but this time around I have some serious doubts, especially due to senior citizens in our middle order.

Let's compare our 11 vs urs

Top order comparison:

Rohit - Fakhar
Shikhar - Haris (I think he'll open)
Kohli - Babar

We are million times ahead of you.



Middle order:

Rahane/ Karthik/ Pandey - Talat
Dhoni - Sarfraz
Jadhav - Malik

We are doomed with this brittle and poor middle order


Lower order:

Pandya - Faheem
Chahal - Shadab

You guys are slightly ahead, especially with Shadab's batting(My personal opinion)



Bowlers/ Batting depth:


Bhubaneshwar : Hassan
Bumrah : Amir
Shami : Junaid/ Usman/ Shaheen

Your bowling is better than ours, and moreover the depth, in which Amir, who has 2 fifties coming at no.10


It will again be our top 3 + Bumrah vs Pakistan.

If Kohli can do, what he does best, and Shikhar what he does in the ICC tournaments, then we'll win easily.

If Kohli and Shikhar repeats the Champions trophy final, then the streak will end.
 
The match is just Amir/Hasan vs Kohli. If we can get Kohli out early the WinViz thing will be like 90% Pakistan 10% India
 
The match is just Amir/Hasan vs Kohli. If we can get Kohli out early the WinViz thing will be like 90% Pakistan 10% India

Yes Shikar who thrashed all these SA bowlers is a useless batsman? Bumrah, who is no 1 ranked bowler is also useless?
 
Yes Shikar who thrashed all these SA bowlers is a useless batsman? Bumrah, who is no 1 ranked bowler is also useless?

Bumrah has played Pakistan twice and has never taken a wicket.

Dhawan is a great batsman but can’t kill us the same way Kohli can.
 
Matches are not decided on paper and i think it should be a comparison of batsmen vs the bowlers they will face like kohli vs amir and bumrah vs fakhar
 
India always turns up in the WC except the odd failure once in a while.

Pakistan has jitters in the beginning and than slowly gathers itself as the tournament progresses.

Therefore, I believe the match is 60-40 in the favor of India. However, this time, PAK don’t have 40 year olds in their lineup and a hit or miss bowing attack. They have a solid top order, capable middle order, and a more than steady tail.

If Kohli gets out early, it’s doomsday for India. But seeing the history of Indo-PAK encounters in the WC, India should fancy their chances.
 
The match is just Amir/Hasan vs Kohli. If we can get Kohli out early the WinViz thing will be like 90% Pakistan 10% India

No comparison at this point. Indian batting is more formidable even without Kohli. If the weather is cloudy Bhuvi is more dangerous than whole of Pakistan bowling lineup considering Pakistan batting against quality swing bowling. On the other side if the weather is hot & sunny with flat pitch and does not offer any swing than we have 60/40 chance in favour of Pakistan.
 
India look better on paper, their bowling is pretty decent though more reliant on one of two bowlers, their batting is also far superior

There is nothing wrong with admitting this as a Pak fan
 
The reason I look forward to us in the World Cup next year is that I think the newer names will really make a mark.
 
I dont think the Format of the CWC 2019 is good for Pak

It's basically a league.

Every team plays each other with the top 4 going to the semis.

I think Pak are far better where there are more knock out games.
 
With just about an year left, our unbreakable streak is set to be challenged once again.

We easily won against you over years, but this time around I have some serious doubts, especially due to senior citizens in our middle order.

Let's compare our 11 vs urs

Top order comparison:

Rohit - Fakhar
Shikhar - Haris (I think he'll open)
Kohli - Babar

We are million times ahead of you.



Middle order:

Rahane/ Karthik/ Pandey - Talat
Dhoni - Sarfraz
Jadhav - Malik

We are doomed with this brittle and poor middle order


Lower order:

Pandya - Faheem
Chahal - Shadab

You guys are slightly ahead, especially with Shadab's batting(My personal opinion)



Bowlers/ Batting depth:


Bhubaneshwar : Hassan
Bumrah : Amir
Shami : Junaid/ Usman/ Shaheen

Your bowling is better than ours, and moreover the depth, in which Amir, who has 2 fifties coming at no.10


It will again be our top 3 + Bumrah vs Pakistan.

If Kohli can do, what he does best, and Shikhar what he does in the ICC tournaments, then we'll win easily.

If Kohli and Shikhar repeats the Champions trophy final, then the streak will end.

Pak's team, or rather starting XI is still developing, guys like Talat, Ali, Salman might all be in the side, Nawaz is circling, the side etc etc

I think India have a more settled side and only injury/really bad form will cause them to drop the likes of Bumrah or Kumar, I mean they dont have anyone better or much variety unless someone pops up in the next 6 months or so.

I agree with a lot of the assessment but I don't think you're top order is miles ahead. Babar is arguably a top 2 or 3 batsman in world ODIs, Zaman is one of the best strikers and if they both develop like they should, they will be even better come summer 2019, allowing them to match what India has.
 
With just about an year left, our unbreakable streak is set to be challenged once again.

We easily won against you over years, but this time around I have some serious doubts, especially due to senior citizens in our middle order.

Let's compare our 11 vs urs

Top order comparison:

Rohit - Fakhar
Shikhar - Haris (I think he'll open)
Kohli - Babar

We are million times ahead of you.



Middle order:

Rahane/ Karthik/ Pandey - Talat
Dhoni - Sarfraz
Jadhav - Malik

We are doomed with this brittle and poor middle order


Lower order:

Pandya - Faheem
Chahal - Shadab

You guys are slightly ahead, especially with Shadab's batting(My personal opinion)



Bowlers/ Batting depth:


Bhubaneshwar : Hassan
Bumrah : Amir
Shami : Junaid/ Usman/ Shaheen

Your bowling is better than ours, and moreover the depth, in which Amir, who has 2 fifties coming at no.10


It will again be our top 3 + Bumrah vs Pakistan.

If Kohli can do, what he does best, and Shikhar what he does in the ICC tournaments, then we'll win easily.

If Kohli and Shikhar repeats the Champions trophy final, then the streak will end.

Comparisons are not accurate.

Fakhar- Dhawan
Haris- Rohit
Babar-Kohli
Talat- Dhoni
Sarfi- Raina
Malik-DK
Faheem- Pandya

Man to man India wins the batting easily. It's a tried and tested unit that has already played all over the world unlike the new Pakistani batsmen.

Now onto the bowlers.

Shadab- Kuldeep
Hasan-Bumrah
Amir-Bkumar
Junaid/Shenwari- Shami/Chahal

They are almost matched with Pak getting an edge. Shadab can score and so can Bkumar. The rest are just sloggers.

Indians are a better fielding unit too. Unless it's a perfect game like Pak had in CT final, India has a better team and are tested under various conditions
 
They still have to hide Bumrah but they are one of the best fielding units out there
 
If the Pak-Ind rivalry has taught fans anything, it is that the game is played on the ground and not on paper. This is more true I think for heated rivalries, where some players elevate their game and other choke. No problem is speculating though, as that is all we can do at this point :)

One thing is for sure though - India will not make the criminal mistake of letting Pakistan bat first. It's funny because we are lucky that we lost that toss (Sarfaraz stated he would have opted to field). We simply won't be able to chase in high-pressure conditions - not much has changed in this regard. I would always want us to bat first unless conditions are great for bowling and are forecast to improve for batting as the day goes on.

That being said, it won't just be a matter of Kohli vs Amir, though that will be the highlight of the game. India have other capable batsmen, and the Pakistani batting can again take the game away from India if they are allowed to score as freely as they were able to in CT Finals. Even the Kohlis of the world can't do anything if their bowling isn't willing to restrict the opposition scoring!
 
Kuldeep is missing in OP.

Something tells me that Jadhav and Pandey may not make the final XI.
 
I will put my money on Pakistan this time for 2 reasons:

1. Match will be played in England.
2. Average team age of Pakistan will be lower than India's. I think the current Indian batting lineup has already peaked. They need to bring in younger batsmen like KL Rahul now.
 
You guys are missing one main point that pak are scheduled to play odi series in England before world cup that will give pak an advantage.
 
You guys are missing one main point that pak are scheduled to play odi series in England before world cup that will give pak an advantage.

This.

They can hit the ground running, and meanwhile where will we be? The IPL. Exactly.
 
This.

They can hit the ground running, and meanwhile where will we be? The IPL. Exactly.

Funny how it didn't affect us during last CT where we got to the final or the one before where we won. We get it people here hate ipl don't need to bring it up every where for no reason.
 
You guys are missing one main point that pak are scheduled to play odi series in England before world cup that will give pak an advantage.

The pitches in ICC tournaments are mostly batting friendly and normally same every where so there is no advantage.
 
If the Pak-Ind rivalry has taught fans anything, it is that the game is played on the ground and not on paper. This is more true I think for heated rivalries, where some players elevate their game and other choke. No problem is speculating though, as that is all we can do at this point :)

One thing is for sure though - India will not make the criminal mistake of letting Pakistan bat first. It's funny because we are lucky that we lost that toss (Sarfaraz stated he would have opted to field). We simply won't be able to chase in high-pressure conditions - not much has changed in this regard. I would always want us to bat first unless conditions are great for bowling and are forecast to improve for batting as the day goes on.

That being said, it won't just be a matter of Kohli vs Amir, though that will be the highlight of the game. India have other capable batsmen, and the Pakistani batting can again take the game away from India if they are allowed to score as freely as they were able to in CT Finals. Even the Kohlis of the world can't do anything if their bowling isn't willing to restrict the opposition scoring!

Well said, in PakvInd games players bring their A game.

It will be always Amir vs oppositions' top batsmen. He transforms himself when it comes to finals/knock-out games. He pwned Dilshan, Rohit, Kohli (twice) and Dhawan at their dream tournament form.
 
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