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Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland sees no tour to Pakistan "in short term"

Australia are unlikely to play in Pakistan soon despite the International Cricket Council pushing for more international cricket to be held there, Cricket Australia CEO James Sutherland says.

Pakistan are currently hosting a World XI side for three T20 games in Lahore, which has been hailed a watershed moment for the country to prove they can host international teams.

Sutherland remains sceptical about the possibility of Australia playing in Pakistan in October 2018 when the two teams are scheduled to meet.

"There's a whole lot of steps in that process," Sutherland said on Friday morning in Sydney.

"I don't see in the short term there are any plans for us to play in Pakistan".

Australians George Bailey, Ben Cutting and Time Paine are part of the World XI squad for the series, which will go down to a decider on Friday night (early Saturday morning AEST).

ICC chief executive David Richardson said the World XI series was an "important stepping stone" for Pakistan to earn the "confidence of the international sporting community".

The ICC has said it will provide financial assistance for security needs.

Barring a limited-overs series against Zimbabwe in 2015, Pakistan has not hosted international cricket since militants attacked a bus carrying the Sri Lankan team in Lahore in 2009, wounding six players and killing two civilians and six security officials.

Australia hasn't played there since 1998, when they won a three test series 1-0 and Mark Taylor scored his famous 334 not out.

The two teams have met in England or the UAE over the past decade when Pakistan have been the home team.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/2017/09/15/12/50/no-plans-to-tour-pakistan-sutherland
 
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Next year might be too early, but couple of years on, we should have reduced risk of terrorism as well as greater confidence.

Still dont expect Aussies to tour that easily
 
Chief Destroyer said:
Hardly. They haven't visited since 98. Don't really matter.
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This may sound extremely condescending however you and I both know reputation takes a hit (a mild one in case of Australia) when 'certain' teams do not decide to tour us.

I hope you understand what I am trying to refer to here bro
 
Hitman said:
Australia and England will never tour Pakistan again.
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What makes you say that? I think England will be one of the first top teams to tour. They're very supportive of cricket anywhere in the world, especially a country like Pakistan.

And if India can tour Pakistan, ANY country can.
 
What most people are missing is the fact that instead of this being a negative statement, it's actually encouraging. Sutherland merely said that there are no plans of touring Pakistan as of now, however, he did not completely rule out the possibility of future tours, maybe after the WI tour, Sri Lanka tour, PSL 2019 and maybe a South African tour (hopefully), they'll be convinced.
 
Adil_94 said:
Aus won't tour Pak in the next 20 years.
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It all depends on the security situation.

Sutherland is not a visionary leader with crickets best interest at his heart. He is small minded, money focussed & short-termist. He has not been good for Australian cricket (ruined our domestic schedule/home Test preparations, mishandled player payment negotiations), or shown any sign of caring about world cricket (big 3 fiasco), so don't expect any generosity or attempts to do the right thing and help Pakistan cricket while Sutherland is in charge.

If other tours go well, I would expect nonetheless to see Oz in Pakistan in 5-10 years (medium term), if security keeps improving and other tours are successfully hosted.
 
wrongun said:
It all depends on the security situation.

Sutherland is not a visionary leader with crickets best interest at his heart. He is small minded, money focussed & short-termist. He has not been good for Australian cricket (ruined our domestic schedule/home Test preparations, mishandled player payment negotiations), or shown any sign of caring about world cricket (big 3 fiasco), so don't expect any generosity or attempts to do the right thing and help Pakistan cricket while Sutherland is in charge.

If other tours go well, I would expect nonetheless to see Oz in Pakistan in 5-10 years (medium term), if security keeps improving and other tours are successfully hosted.
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Out of curiosity - how long is Sutherland in charge for?
 
The Aussies won't tour for at least the next 20-30 years. Even when the likes of India and England were touring Pakistan the Aussies still refused to tour.
 
yes australia didn't tour from 1998 to 2009 but times have changed. there is a lot of media pressure nowadays and plenty of politics involved. they also didn't tour bangladesh before but they now do.

if england and south africa tour pakistan australia will definitely follow
 
ExpressPacer said:
Out of curiosity - how long is Sutherland in charge for?
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II'm not sure. His contract seems to have been perpetually renewed since the late 90s. It would be a major news event here if he were to leave, put it that way. The board would have to oust him.
 
Goes running to Bangladesh right after a bomb blast but won't go to Pakistan even when tried and trusted security is provided.

Politics at play, CA are in bed with BCCI.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Goes running to Bangladesh right after a bomb blast but won't go to Pakistan even when tried and trusted security is provided.

Politics at play, CA are in bed with BCCI.
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I wouldn't be surprised with Sutherland. He's in bed with $$$, the BCCI just happens to have the most.
 
People somehow found a way to blame BCCI here,well done :claps: India toured Pak when Aus didn't, also if CA was supporting us we wouldn't have to deal with BIG 3 cut off.
 
White teams won't tour regardless.

But if the PCB can get WI, SL, BD to tour it would be a good move.
 
Flat_Track_Bully said:
Goes running to Bangladesh right after a bomb blast but won't go to Pakistan even when tried and trusted security is provided.

Politics at play, CA are in bed with BCCI.
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Y'all need a reality check. Just cause AUS doesn't want to tour PAK - along with half the cricket playing nations, doesn't mean this has anything to do with BCCI. Hell even the BD denied you guys a tour so cut the crap already.
 
They never toured Pak when things where quite decent before 2007. What made you think they will now?

Aus/NZ/ENg not touring Pak anytime soon. India we all know wasn't destined to play bilateral series with Pak.
 
Aus eng nz india these 4 wont tour in near future.BD and SA are 50-50.

WI is touring next month and SL after that.But all these are 2-3 T20 matches not a full tour.
 
England will tour sooner rather than later.

Don't care about India cause that country is totally irelavant when it comes to cricket.

Australia some are saying 20 years which really is pessimistic - I think 5 years is possible once other teams start touring.
 
Aus 'll be the last to visit. I won't be surprised if NZ agrees to come for a short tour.
 
90MPH said:
England will tour sooner rather than later.

Don't care about India cause that country is totally irelavant when it comes to cricket.

Australia some are saying 20 years which really is pessimistic - I think 5 years is possible once other teams start touring.
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"India is irrelevant" Lol PCB chief thinks otherwise. We know who have been begging for Billateral series for last few months and its not India.
I could careless if India Pakistan dont play, i want India to play Aus-Eng-SA more often.

on topic: Australia will be the last team to tour Pakistan considering they never toured Pakistan this century. They have been playing on neutral venues when other teams were touring Pakistan. Not sure how long before they tour Pakistan but it wont be atleast for next 5 years.
 
No surprise really but it might be useful if he listened to the views of Ben Cutting and Tim Paine when they arrive in Australia. Seems like he has made up his mind already.
 
India are more likely to tour Pakistan before Australia do. Our best bet is convincing the likes of South Africa and the West Indies to acquiesce to a full tour. England might also be supportive but I don't think they'll tour in the next 5 years even if security continues to improve.
 
tbh I think Pakistan have shown now they are capable of hosting games, and I'd definitely be in favour of us going over provided its in lahore.

Have heard rumours that CI are lining up Pakistan to play us in our debut test next June, two boards seem quite close so wouldnt be surprised if we were offered to go.
 
CanadianG00se said:
"India is irrelevant" Lol PCB chief thinks otherwise. We know who have been begging for Billateral series for last few months and its not India.
I could careless if India Pakistan dont play, i want India to play Aus-Eng-SA more often.

on topic: Australia will be the last team to tour Pakistan considering they never toured Pakistan this century. They have been playing on neutral venues when other teams were touring Pakistan. Not sure how long before they tour Pakistan but it wont be atleast for next 5 years.
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Listen come out of your cave and smell the cofeee.

India is totally irreverent when it comes to Pakistan cricket - that's what the cat majority of Pakistan fans and I can bet the your bottom dollar the vast majority of Pak fans here don't give a toss about playing India either.

It's been 10 years since the last tour so why do you think we want the tour now ?? Even the ex pm said the same since you lot love mixing politics with sport on every given opportunity.
Even though Pak smashed India in the ICC champions trophy I would have no problem Pak not playing your two faced team in tournaments either.
 
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90MPH said:
Listen come out of your cave and smell the cofeee.

India is totally irreverent when it comes to Pakistan cricket - that's what the cat majority of Pakistan fans and I can bet the your bottom dollar the vast majority of Pak fans here don't give a toss about playing India either.

It's been 10 years since the last tour so why do you think we want the tour now ?? Even the ex pm said the same since you lot love mixing politics with sport on every given opportunity.
Even though Pak smashed India in the ICC champions trophy I would have no problem Pak not playing your two faced team in tournaments either.
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Problem is that despite all your rants, fans dont run pakistan cricket PCB does and they are desperate to play India.

And its well known who mixes sports with politics by even boycotting olympics.
 
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90MPH said:
Listen come out of your cave and smell the cofeee.

India is totally irreverent when it comes to Pakistan cricket - that's what the cat majority of Pakistan fans and I can bet the your bottom dollar the vast majority of Pak fans here don't give a toss about playing India either.

It's been 10 years since the last tour so why do you think we want the tour now ?? Even the ex pm said the same since you lot love mixing politics with sport on every given opportunity.
Even though Pak smashed India in the ICC champions trophy I would have no problem Pak not playing your two faced team in tournaments either.
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Ofc fans on both sided do not want Indo-Pak game which I never claimed otherwise. Firstly, according to you Indian cricket is irrelevant, then please explain me why is ur board keep coming back to 'Indo-Pak' cricket. Even recently concluded World XI series, Najam Sethi was discussing with D Richardson on the sidelines about finding solution for India series. I could give you hundreds of sources where in last one year only one nation have been hell bent on 'India-Pakistan bilateral series'.
Pakistan media, fans, former cricketers, etc all have some point in past week have been nonstop talking about 'Missing Indian players' in World XI. I mean seriously if Indian team is so irrelevant then why do they keep harping about Indian players. Please don't give me a crap that its a World XI so thats why India should've sent some players.

Yes we lost champions trophy to an inform team who played brilliant cricket. No shame in denying that and applauding Pakistani team.

You know in reality its Pakistani cricket that isn't relevant to India. You know why, because unlike PCB, BCCI do not have clause in broadcasting deal where certain portion of deal is subject to 'India-Pakistan' series. Unlike PCB chief, BCCI chiefs aren't running behind PCB to play a series. BCCI have created their financial and cricketing structure in a way that no bilateral series with Pakistan wont hurt them much financially. So, when and If PCB manages to stop running behind BCCI, and have same approach as BCCI then ill be the first one to admit that PCB doesn't need BCCI to flourish financially. But for now they are financially good but with India they could be even better.

Sports have always been used as a bargaining tool for diplomatic relationship. I think itsyou who need to get out of the cave and smell the coffee, if you think your beloved country have never mixed politics with sports in past. Even western countries have done in past, and some still does it. Politics is broad subject and if you think PCB do not mix sports with politics then you're deluded. Remember every board have their own interest as their prime objective.
 
This is a thread about the possibility of Australia touring Pakistan, and posters turn it into a Pakistan/India debate. :facepalm:
 
Donal Cozzie said:
tbh I think Pakistan have shown now they are capable of hosting games, and I'd definitely be in favour of us going over provided its in lahore.

Have heard rumours that CI are lining up Pakistan to play us in our debut test next June, two boards seem quite close so wouldnt be surprised if we were offered to go.
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The Irishmen can't handle playing 5 days of Test cricket in June in Lahore. Heck, I bet not even Pakistani's can handle it.
 
Saj said:
No surprise really but it might be useful if he listened to the views of Ben Cutting and Tim Paine when they arrive in Australia. Seems like he has made up his mind already.
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Agreed. Fair enough if they don't want to send the team to Pakistan as the media does portray Pakistan as unsafe but there is no need for him to be this blunt and dismissive. Ben Cutting and Tim Paine are Australian and went to Pakistan so he really could have consulted them first.
 
CanadianG00se said:
Ofc fans on both sided do not want Indo-Pak game which I never claimed otherwise. Firstly, according to you Indian cricket is irrelevant, then please explain me why is ur board keep coming back to 'Indo-Pak' cricket. Even recently concluded World XI series, Najam Sethi was discussing with D Richardson on the sidelines about finding solution for India series. I could give you hundreds of sources where in last one year only one nation have been hell bent on 'India-Pakistan bilateral series'.
Pakistan media, fans, former cricketers, etc all have some point in past week have been nonstop talking about 'Missing Indian players' in World XI. I mean seriously if Indian team is so irrelevant then why do they keep harping about Indian players. Please don't give me a crap that its a World XI so thats why India should've sent some players.

Yes we lost champions trophy to an inform team who played brilliant cricket. No shame in denying that and applauding Pakistani team.

You know in reality its Pakistani cricket that isn't relevant to India. You know why, because unlike PCB, BCCI do not have clause in broadcasting deal where certain portion of deal is subject to 'India-Pakistan' series. Unlike PCB chief, BCCI chiefs aren't running behind PCB to play a series. BCCI have created their financial and cricketing structure in a way that no bilateral series with Pakistan wont hurt them much financially. So, when and If PCB manages to stop running behind BCCI, and have same approach as BCCI then ill be the first one to admit that PCB doesn't need BCCI to flourish financially. But for now they are financially good but with India they could be even better.

Sports have always been used as a bargaining tool for diplomatic relationship. I think itsyou who need to get out of the cave and smell the coffee, if you think your beloved country have never mixed politics with sports in past. Even western countries have done in past, and some still does it. Politics is broad subject and if you think PCB do not mix sports with politics then you're deluded. Remember every board have their own interest as their prime objective.
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Reality is that pcb is begging for a series with bcci and even their former players wants indians even in world team.

If bcci or india is irrelevant why u r pcb is begging since ages and wants our players to play psl and world teams
 
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I think Faf and Andy Flower summed it up best - this tour was very important but they are baby steps. It's vital PCB walks and doesn't try to rush and run.

International cricket will return and those negative naysayers that have nothing good to say will never say anything positive, especially you know who.
 
To simply write the chance off is astonishing and lacks any thought or any inclination to actually alter the mindset.
 
There is only one way Pakistan can have an Australia tour:

1) Become #1 ranked team in all three formats with a WorldCup under the belt.
2) Shift all cricket back to Pakistan gradually.
3) Annul all agreements with UAE board Refuse to play a home series in UAE.

Australia or any other competitive team eyeing the number 1 spot will find it difficult to ignore us then.
 
While there is much to malign Sutherland for given his money-first driven vision of cicket (lets face it, he is more readily recognizable as a part of Srinivasan's anatomy) - there's nothing particularly offensive in what he has said here.
To australia's credit, they cam back to tour Bangladesh.
 
asfandyar said:
There is only one way Pakistan can have an Australia tour:

1) Become #1 ranked team in all three formats with a WorldCup under the belt.
2) Shift all cricket back to Pakistan gradually.
3) Annul all agreements with UAE board Refuse to play a home series in UAE.

Australia or any other competitive team eyeing the number 1 spot will find it difficult to ignore us then.
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no. they will not tour neither would most other boards.
 
Saj said:
To simply write the chance off is astonishing and lacks any thought or any inclination to actually alter the mindset.
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He didn't though?

Short term is pretty short term. October 2018 was named. That's just over 12 months from now. A proper tour consists of staying in the country for up to a month not playing three games in one week in one city.
 
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