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Seems to be quite an uproar at the pictures of Joe Root and Tim Bresnan being pictured smoking.

Your thoughts on cricketers and the habit of smoking?
 

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These two are atleast doing it away from the Field (not defending it though). I remember I saw Rob Key smoking during a match telcasted on Sky Sports.
 
Not only cricketers but all sportmen shouldn't be smoking, people look upbto them not only as a sportsman but also as role model. They should at least avoid it in public
 
whts the big deal in it .. its outside the field personal life of each n every cricketer
 
We can at least infer that Akhthar probably used to smoke
 
Zaheer Khan, Rohit Sharma, Pragyan Ojha and Praveen Kumar all are (or used to be) chain smokers.
 
Not sure what the uproar is about. It's their choice to do as they please with their bodies, and they're not doing it on the field.
 
Saw Darren Lehmann smoking at Old Trafford the other day, are the rules different for a coach?
 
It's not just cricketers but nobody should smoke!it's so bad for health..
 
As long as its off camera its fine. Its not like they were doing it infront of kids? The fault lies with the media who highlight these kinds of things and kids then pick up on them after.
 
Jo_Don said:
It's still their body and their choice, we shouldn't remove that just because we feel differently.
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Obviously it's their choice!just making a general point!their shouldn't be an uproar if they are smoking,it's bad for everyone not just them..
 
Casual smoking isn't much harmful, we inhale a lot of toxic gases due to pollution anyway. Chain smoking is very bad for health of course.

Bresnan and Root look social smokers to me.
 
What if a fielder lights up a cigarette on a cricket field. A boundary sweeper who doesn't get involved with the action all the time.
What's the ruling on this? :ibutt
 
If my memory serves me right, during the Indo-Pak match at the Asian test championship in 1998-99, Wasim went off the field for a while. He was followed by one of the cameras and shown sitting with coach Javed Miandad in the dressing room, puffing a cigar. The camera was quickly taken off him.
 
As a smoker I find nothing wrong with it. However, playing while being a heavy smoker is pretty taxing. Usually the coaches make you do extra rounds :)
 
style_guru said:
If my memory serves me right, during the Indo-Pak match at the Asian test championship in 1998-99, Wasim went off the field for a while. He was followed by one of the cameras and shown sitting with coach Javed Miandad in the dressing room, puffing a cigar. The camera was quickly taken off him.
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Yeah I've seen him having a smoke with a cup of tea.
 
as long as it doesn't get them banned or affect their performance they can smoke, inject or snort whatever they like.
 
sachjinn said:
Yeah I've seen him having a smoke with a cup of tea.
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I think you are right. And upon pressing my memory glands further, I remember that Wasim was lying on a sofa and inhaling the stuff. Later Javed joined him and they were seen sharing a laugh about something.

On a side note, that match was one of the best I've ever witnessed. I remember how the ground was full to the hilt throughout the match. Never seen another ground filled to that extent after that match. Pakistan were I guess 30 odd for 6, and then went on to win. Ah those good old days:94:
 
Not really much wrong with it. They were letting off steam after retaining the Ashes.
 
Anyone recall this ad?


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:)) Guess the smokers got to him on that one occasion raised by style-guru above.
 
Not a serious problem.


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Smoking isn't illegal. Non issue, no wonder the England players hate the media.
 
I think as long as they are performing its fine, but when they're they will always have ? Marks over them.
 
Reminds me of that ad "Wasim bhai aap thaktay nahi hain" LOL. If I remember correctly the ad was ironic because he then got busted for coke in the West Indies with Waqar around that time.
 
Nothing wrong with this, it's up to them whether or not to smoke. But, it seriously affects their stamina and their game... and could threaten their career, but at the end of the day, its up to them to decide. I for one, don't smoke and the main reason behind it is, sports.
 
I actually work for the largest tobacco company in the world and smoking is a personal choice one makes. No one is forcing them to smoke.
 
No big deal its their choice, they are adults after all. As long as it does not interfere with their fitness levels
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Casual smoking isn't much harmful, we inhale a lot of toxic gases due to pollution anyway. Chain smoking is very bad for health of course.
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Don't try to rationalize your choices, casual smoking is extremly bad.

To those saying it's their own choice, it is also Nasir Jamshed's choice to eat a lot off the field. Why is one acceptable and not the other?
 
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It's an individual choice, but is obviously not recommended for a professional athlete, or anyone really.
 
Their life their choices . As long as they perform on they field then it shouldn't matter . Obviously it isn't recommended for a pro athlete .
 
Did Bresnan need to buy them for Root? :))

Jokes aside its up to them but surely smoking should have a negative effect on their stamina.
 
If it starts effecting their performance. it becomes an issue. I would assume that could become the case for chain smokers.

Personal choice in the end. They're taking the risk.
 
It is a very very bad habit. Even the smokers would know that. It has a great impact on the stamina of an athlete! I recommend quitting immediately... It's tough I know, but it's important one stops
 
It's individuals choice to smoke or not. But sportsperson should avoid smoking in public and in front of cameras as so many youngsters follow them.
Wasim Akram & Ganguly both use to smoke together during India's tour to England in 2011.
 
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No problems with smoking especially after a victory. Drinking alcohol is a different matter
 
cars112 said:
No problems with smoking especially after a victory. Drinking alcohol is a different matter
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Alcohol is legal in the UK and most other countries. People in the UK use alcohol as a social drink when they are out. Its against my religion but not theres so if they do it whats the issue? Smoking, whats the issue? Their personal life they can do what ever they want.
 
Alcohol could be beneficial under some circumstances if not abused, it is even used as medicine . Cigar on the other hand is one of the worst substances that you can go after, almost every ingredient or chemical in it is harmful to man. It is just poison disguised as "fun". Personal choice yes, but professional sportsmen should know better, even mild smoking is bad for them ( and to others who move with also).
 
It is their choice. It is ok as long as nobody is harmed.

What is next? A picture of some cricketers eating too much sugar?

Come on man, cricketers should have their freedom too.
 
If you want to be the perfect person who doesn't drink or smoke, and eats perfectly healthy... that's all well and good. But there is nothing wrong with drinking and smoking if you'd like. If your performance goes down to health related issues, you will be replaced and the team moves on. I don't smoke cigarettes (though I do enjoy a good cigar and scotch while playing poker with my mates), but I don't see a point in judging people for wanting to.
 
smoothcriminal said:
Reminds me of that ad "Wasim bhai aap thaktay nahi hain" LOL. If I remember correctly the ad was ironic because he then got busted for coke in the West Indies with Waqar around that time.
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It was reefer, not coke. Him, Waqar and Mushtaq Ahmad were arrested for possession at a beach. PCB actually had the clout back then to have them released by threatening the WICB with calling off the tour if I recall correctly.
 
talha3 said:
It's scientifically proven to damage health. With this knowledge now known to all, smoking can be considered similar to suicide, although obviously on a much smaller scale.
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So is watching television and using computer. Not good for eyes at all as proven scientifically. Using it must be haram as well since damaging yourself is suicide on a much smaller scale.
 
Eating fatty food is bad for health as well. It must be haram too. I wonder why don't the mullahs stop eating halwa :inzi
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
So is watching television and using computer. Not good for eyes at all as proven scientifically. Using it must be haram as well since damaging yourself is suicide on a much smaller scale.
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OK maybe I should have said life threatening. Your examples don't work now.
 
talha3 said:
OK maybe I should have said life threatening. Your examples don't work now.
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They don't work because not watching tv/computer is impractical for you and not consuming plates of hot halwa is impractical for the mullahs so you are justifying their use.

I don't blame you or anyone else, it's the habit of all Muslims including me.

We twist and distort the religion to satisfy and justify our needs and practices. Everyone has his own version of Islam.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
They don't work because not watching tv/computer is impractical for you and not consuming plates of hot halwa is impractical for the mullahs so you are justifying their use.

I don't blame you or anyone else, it's the habit of all Muslims including me.

We twist and distort the religion to satisfy and justify our needs and practices. Everyone has his own version of Islam.
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Come on. How many have died directly from watching TV/computer? Science hasn't yet proved any sort of link whereas with smoking there is a clear link.

I tend to agree with your last paragraph but this is certainly not the case here.
 
LegendAli said:
Because we are Muslims, what do you mean why? Come on man.
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From what I understand, smoking isn't recommended either and may in fact be against the religion as well? If so, the logic wouldn't make sense in his statement or your own.

Either way Root and Bresnan are not Muslims, so I'm merely asking for the rationale behind why drinking after a game is worse than smoking after a game, because from a scientific and factual POV it could be argued that it certainly is not. That okay bro?
 
talha3 said:
Come on. How many have died directly from watching TV/computer? Science hasn't yet proved any sort of link whereas with smoking there is a clear link.

I tend to agree with your last paragraph but this is certainly not the case here.
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Overeating sweets/food and obesity are just as harmful as smoking and lead to heart disease and early deaths then? MG's example of that is at least spot on.
 
talha3 said:
Come on. How many have died directly from watching TV/computer? Science hasn't yet proved any sort of link whereas with smoking there is a clear link.

I tend to agree with your last paragraph but this is certainly not the case here.
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Fats and cholesterol is more injurious to health than smoking.
 
Ruri said:
Overeating sweets/food and obesity are just as harmful as smoking and lead to heart disease and early deaths then? MG's example of that is at least spot on.
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Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Fats and cholesterol is more injurious to health than smoking.
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And I haven't rejected that. Being careless with one's health whilst knowing the possible consequences is wrong in Islam.

But you (MG) aren't recognising this.
 
talha3 said:
And I haven't rejected that. Being careless with one's health whilst knowing the possible consequences is wrong in Islam.

But you (MG) aren't recognising this.
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So are fatty foods haram or halal?

if they are halal then why is smoking haram?
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
So are fatty foods haram or halal?

if they are halal then why is smoking haram?
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In moderation there is nothing wrong with fatty foods. I don't think the same applies for smoking and even if it does, smoking has the addiction factor which can cause excess usage.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Fats and cholesterol is more injurious to health than smoking.
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Some fat and cholesterol will make it into our systems because we cannot avoid eating. Not all fats and cholesterol are bad either.

But it is possible to avoid smoking if you want because it is not necessary to sustain life. I hardly know of smokers who smoke just a bit. They may do so at the beginning, but over time it is addictive and many of the smokers smoke at levels that are highly undesirable.
 
talha3 said:
In moderation there is nothing wrong with fatty foods. I don't think the same applies for smoking and even if it does, smoking has the addiction factor which can cause excess usage.
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Smoking is NOT an addiction; it's a habit.

There is a difference between the two.

Secondly, craving for certain types of food is also a habit - you get used to it and you crave for more.

People with sweet tooth are not addicted to chocolates and pastries etc. It becomes a habit for them.
 
IndianWillow said:
Some fat and cholesterol will make it into our systems because we cannot avoid eating. Not all fats and cholesterol are bad either.

But it is possible to avoid smoking if you want because it is not necessary to sustain life. I hardly know of smokers who smoke just a bit. They may do so at the beginning, but over time it is addictive and many of the smokers smoke at levels that are highly undesirable.
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I'm a med student and I know about but both things are parallel.

Fatty foods taste better than healthy food like veggies etc.

it is more easy and convenient to go on a diet of pizzas, burgers etc than on a diet consisting of low carb, high fibre and protein diet.

Humans have the tendency of over doing things that are not good for them but making one halal and one haram is wrong.
 
tanzeel said:
It was reefer, not coke. Him, Waqar and Mushtaq Ahmad were arrested for possession at a beach. PCB actually had the clout back then to have them released by threatening the WICB with calling off the tour if I recall correctly.
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Yes , i too recall these guys were caught with Ganja & rum bottles on a beach . I think Wasim is a regular smoker too .
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Smoking is NOT an addiction; it's a habit.

There is a difference between the two.

Secondly, craving for certain types of food is also a habit - you get used to it and you crave for more.

People with sweet tooth are not addicted to chocolates and pastries etc. It becomes a habit for them.
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OK Mr med student...
http://www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/2278.aspx?CategoryID=53

As you say, there is a difference between habit and addiction.
 
Nothing wrong with them smoking, its a lifestyle choice that they have chosen.

However if you are a sportsman, you don't want to be taking in substances that will adversely affect your respiratory system.
 
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