Crimes of Misbah-ul-Haq: Oathgate, Blocking youngsters etc.

[Slim]

Those who have watched Wasim Badami's recent show with Younis Khan would know that Misbah-ul-Haq was the master mind behind the Oath Gate during Champions Trophy 2010. He was the one who called all the players to get united to oust YK.

Then lets move it a bit forward, Misbah becomes captain and continues to lead Pakistan for more than half the decade. During his captaincy, he was known to play his friends and block youngsters. During his involvement with Islamabad United, Babar was sold to Karachi and was not even given any opportunity.

During his captaincy, Pakistan reached new lows - we were lowest ranked in our history during Misbah's reign. Played a lethargic, terrible brand of cricket and got humiliated in all ICC events including the WC 2015, and Champions Trophy.

Later on, post his retirement, he again played the "friends" card and made Azhar Ali the captain. Someone he had not even selected in his LOI squad. Azhar Ai went on to achieve historic defeats in which losing to Bangladesh tops the list.

After that, he played the biggest criminal master stroke. He conspired to become the head coach of Pakistani team by ousting Mickey Arthur through a fraudulent committee process. Only in Pakistan, the committee head of firing someone, replaces him.

Zero talent, Zero skill, Zero certifications - and he became the head coach and selector of Pakistani team. Alongwith that, to keep the double dip going, he didnt even let go of the IU management position.

This all truly goes against his public image of being a "nice, harmless" guy when in reality he has been the main lead of the many shameful aspects of Pakistan cricket in the past one decade.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

If I had a dollar for everytime I read a 'Misbah is evil' post here I would be a millionaire.

It has gotten tiring at this point.

 

[Slim]

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard a 'Misbah is evil' post here I would be a millionaire.

Can you negate any facts?

 

[Extra_Cover]

I understand people hate Misbah but this is blind hatred. Seriously Misbah is the mastermind behind Oathgate of 2010, here is Misbah after reading your post

 

[Slim]

To add to the OP, Misbah under his coaching brought Azhar Ali back as Pakistan's team captain - his love for his friends is eternal.

Shadab Khan, a mediocre player, is Pakistan's vice captain - who is guess what? Another of Misbah's friends.

 

[in_cutter]

‘Blocking youngsters’

Misbah haters are in overdrive lol.

Yet YK had come out and said that Afridi was the oathgate leader

 

[Slim]

‘Blocking youngsters’

Misbah haters are in overdrive lol.

Yet YK had come out and said that Afridi was the oathgate leader

Whats your proof when YK literally claimed it was Misbah, yesterday? :/

 

[HappyWarsFan]

Good homework essay. Maybe your teacher will give a nice mark. Lots of creativity used in this brilliant work of fiction.

 

[in_cutter]

Whats your proof when YK literally claimed it was Misbah, yesterday? :/

And you believe this Badami guy lmao

Good to see Misbah still giving you heartburn..long may it continue

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Can you negate any facts?

Facts? More like biased opinions.

If you want to talk about facts where is the fact that Misbah is Pakistan's most successful test captain? Or that he picked the team up from the ashes of the 2010 spot-fixing scandal and turned them into an unbeatable side in UAE? Or that he took Pakistan to the top of the test rankings? Or that he averaged 51 with the bat as captain of Pakistan? Those are actual undisputable facts.

Misbah had the unfortunate responsibility of leading one of the consistently worst Pakistan sides in history. The fact that he was able to achieve as much as he did is remarkable on its own.

And you know what I can understand people disliking Misbah, even hating him. But this is just blind hate. It is without reason. Most of the stuff you've mentioned here are just your opinions. There is no way for you to ascertain with evidence that Misbah was responsible for alot these things you blame him for. On other things you are simply going by hearsay.

 

[in_cutter]

Facts? More like biased opinions.

If you want to talk about facts where is the fact that Misbah is Pakistan's most successful test captain? Or that he picked the team up from the ashes of the 2010 spot-fixing scandal and turned them into an unbeatable side in UAE? Or that he took Pakistan to the top of the test rankings? Or that he averaged 51 with the bat as captain of Pakistan? Those are actual undisputable facts.

Misbah had the unfortunate responsibility of leading one of the consistently worst Pakistan sides in history. The fact that he was able to achieve as much as he did is remarkable on its own.

And you know what I can understand people disliking Misbah, even hating him. But this is just blind hate. It is without reason. Most of the stuff you've mentioned here are just your opinions. There is no way for you to ascertain with evidence that Misbah was responsible for alot these things you blame him for. On other things you are simply going by hearsay.

Don’t bro. Poor guy put a lot of effort in putting together the OP fantasy.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

Don’t bro. Poor guy put a lot of effort in putting together the OP fantasy.

I just find it hilarious that he considers his opinions and the hearsay of a couple of people to be facts. Like how can you not even know the difference?

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

‘Blocking youngsters’

Misbah haters are in overdrive lol.

Yet YK had come out and said that Afridi was the oathgate leader

LMAO. I guess Misbah must have been chief-selector back when he was captain too.

 

[IMMY69]

Those who have watched Wasim Badami's recent show with Younis Khan would know that Misbah-ul-Haq was the master mind behind the Oath Gate during Champions Trophy 2010. He was the one who called all the players to get united to oust YK.

Then lets move it a bit forward, Misbah becomes captain and continues to lead Pakistan for more than half the decade. During his captaincy, he was known to play his friends and block youngsters. During his involvement with Islamabad United, Babar was sold to Karachi and was not even given any opportunity.

During his captaincy, Pakistan reached new lows - we were lowest ranked in our history during Misbah's reign. Played a lethargic, terrible brand of cricket and got humiliated in all ICC events including the WC 2015, and Champions Trophy.

Later on, post his retirement, he again played the "friends" card and made Azhar Ali the captain. Someone he had not even selected in his LOI squad. Azhar Ai went on to achieve historic defeats in which losing to Bangladesh tops the list.

After that, he played the biggest criminal master stroke. He conspired to become the head coach of Pakistani team by ousting Mickey Arthur through a fraudulent committee process. Only in Pakistan, the committee head of firing someone, replaces him.

Zero talent, Zero skill, Zero certifications - and he became the head coach and selector of Pakistani team. Alongwith that, to keep the double dip going, he didnt even let go of the IU management position.

This all truly goes against his public image of being a "nice, harmless" guy when in reality he has been the main lead of the many shameful aspects of Pakistan cricket in the past one decade.

Facts?

Oath gate apparently took place in Inzi's presence so wrong UL Haq

It was no 2010 but in 2009.

Misbah took over the Test captaincy in 2010 after the spot fixing scandal.

As another poster pointed out, he was a fantastic Test captain... unbeaten un UAE, West Indies, Sri Lanka and England... took us to the top of tree in 2016.

He did not appoint Azhar as the ODI captain after the 2015 World Cup.
Waqar was head coach and someone else was head selector. Misbah didn't retire from playing until 2017.

If you don't like him as Coach/Manager then that's perfectly fine but let's not distort the facts to fit an agenda.

 

[Varun]

There was no Champion's Trophy in 2010.

Was Misbah even in the 2009 CT team or the World T20 2010 team if you're referring to either?

Misbah doesn't come across as an "oath on Quran" guy anyway - he's a well educated MBA.

 

[daytrader]

Wasn't it Mohammad Yusuf who took over captaincy after oathgate?

 

[Faiz1978]

Misbah is curse for a Pakistan cricket , one thing I know he has not supported single young cricketer and not single player made by him , his body language sums up about him Manhoos sa , Statement given by Yunus Khan about him for 2009 World Cup match against Netherlands it self sums up how selfish he is , same he did in SF of 2011 World Cup tuk tuk , shameless guy.

 

[Savak]

Let's not kid ourselves, Misbah's shameless Yes Man nature is evident through out his career.

Everyone knows YK chastised him for his slow batting in the 2009 T20 WC and Misbah responded who the hell are you to mention this to me, you bat slowly as well. Misbah defended his Mohali innings saying he played according to the instructions of the team management. He was perhaps instrumental in the revolt against YK in 2009

When Zaka removed Misbah as the T20 captain and removed him from the T20 team, he went to Zakas house to protest.

Dont be fooled by the narrative that he has no controversies. This guy is extremely well connected and has a powerful gidar singhi which explains his upward trajectory in Pakistan Cricket from absolute obscurity in 2007.

Won't surprise me if he becomes the PCB chairman next

 

[iniqbal223]

Being Pakistani living in US; I can say Indians think Misbah is the biggest Panauti for Pakistan cricket
Ever since he has arrived, we have been in downhill;; We won CT when he was not around (in any capacity, else we would have lost that too)

 

[iniqbal223]

You can still forgive Shahid Afridi for Oathgate because he won some games for Pakistan ; and won us 2009
What about Misbah? Just being UAE bilateral basher

 

[Shazzam]

Misbah is the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket. Before him we had attitude, aggression, and a personality. Now we are timid kittens. He changed our teams outlook ever since he took charge. Pakistan cricket will suffer till he is around. We won’t see the light of day with him.

 

[Mamoon]

Oath-gate has nothing to do with Misbah. The OP has got his timeline wrong as well.

Younis is a fake team man with terrible attitude and an uncontrollable ego. I felt sorry for him when the players revolted against but it is easy to see why.

You simply cannot put up with a mentally unstable person like him.

As far as Misbah holding Pakistan cricket back is concerned, again, it is a myth.

Pakistan has been held back because of its lack of talent and its rotten mentality, and Misbah has nothing to do with it.

For all his faults, Pakistan would have been worse off without Misbah. He took Pakistan to number 2 in Tests which is the only achievement of Pakistan cricket in the last decade which cannot be categorized as a fluke.

I did not say number 1 because the number 1 rank that we occupied for 3 seconds in 2016 was actually a fluke because we wouldn’t have reached the summit if the 4th Test between India and West Indies was not washed out.

Nevertheless, he did take us to number 2 in Tests and has won more Tests than any captain in Pakistan history.

Put some respect to his name and don’t use him as a punching bag for Pakistan’s lack of talent and mediocrity.

 

[IMMY69]

Oath-gate has nothing to do with Misbah. The OP has got his timeline wrong as well.

Younis is a fake team man with terrible attitude and an uncontrollable ego. I felt sorry for him when the players revolted against but it is easy to see why.

You simply cannot put up with a mentally unstable person like him.

As far as Misbah holding Pakistan cricket back is concerned, again, it is a myth.

Pakistan has been held back because of its lack of talent and its rotten mentality, and Misbah has nothing to do with it.

For all his faults, Pakistan would have been worse off without Misbah. He took Pakistan to number 2 in Tests which is the only achievement of Pakistan cricket in the last decade which cannot be categorized as a fluke.

I did not say number 1 because the number 1 rank that we occupied for 3 seconds in 2016 was actually a fluke because we wouldn’t have reached the summit if the 4th Test between India and West Indies was not washed out.

Nevertheless, he did take us to number 2 in Tests and has won more Tests than any captain in Pakistan history.

Put some respect to his name and don’t use him as a punching bag for Pakistan’s lack of talent and mediocrity.

This is a post I can get onboard with.
However I still maintain that you're wrong regarding the talent.

The problem is that the system doesn't allow for talent to come through.
Departmental teams picking relatives and favourites or those that have big pockets is not a system that is capable of finding and nurturing talent.

Whatever we've achieved has been inspite of the system, not due to a lack of talent.

Of course talent alone doesn't get you anywhere

 

[Mamoon]

This is a post I can get onboard with.
However I still maintain that you're wrong regarding the talent.

The problem is that the system doesn't allow for talent to come through.
Departmental teams picking relatives and favourites or those that have big pockets is not a system that is capable of finding and nurturing talent.

Whatever we've achieved has been inspite of the system, not due to a lack of talent.

Of course talent alone doesn't get you anywhere

That goes without saying. Talent is nothing but simply the production of players. Natural ability is only one factor.

Right now, there is no talent for cricket in France or Germany. However, if they abandon football and put all their resources in cricket, 50 years down the line, they will also start producing talent in cricket as well.

Pakistan is not capable of player development. If it was, it would have achieved a semblance of structure by now.

Our mentality is rotten to the core and we need a factory reset which is obviously not going to happen.

As a result, Pakistan will always remain a mediocre team with the odd achievement every now and then, but it will never be capable of playing world class cricket across formats for a sustained period of time.

 

[MesonK]

Misbah is a known bully who costed pakistan in ODIs with his mediocre selections (Asad Shafiq in ODIs, blind support of Irfan, destroying Fawad Alam and Sohail Khans career) etc ...

But his test record is marvelous. He went on to win win almost ~50% of the tests he captained with best figures for a SC team in SENA (yes better than any Indian) ... all that with maintaining a 52+ batting average. Courtesy him, we have a very good test record in 2010-2020. Comparable and to some extent better than India (in SENA)

So hate him as much as you want but he is a very accomplished Pakistani cricketer and a captain (in tests). His ODI record is not good. He failed to groom players and kept playing ODI TTFs like YK himself, Shafiq, Shehzad, Irfan, Wahab.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Misbah is a known bully who costed pakistan in ODIs with his mediocre selections (Asad Shafiq in ODIs, blind support of Irfan, destroying Fawad Alam and Sohail Khans career) etc ...

But his test record is marvelous. He went on to win win almost ~50% of the tests he captained with best figures for a SC team in SENA (yes better than any Indian) ... all that with maintaining a 52+ batting average. Courtesy him, we have a very good test record in 2010-2020. Comparable and to some extent better than India (in SENA)

So hate him as much as you want but he is a very accomplished Pakistani cricketer and a captain (in tests). His ODI record is not good. He failed to groom players and kept playing ODI TTFs like YK himself, Shafiq, Shehzad, Irfan, Wahab.

I’ll never forgive him for taking his best friend Asad Shafiq for CT13 over Afridi, the same year in which Afridi played that innings vs SA.

 

[Abdurmirr]

Misbah’s legacy as a batsmen and captain can be interpreted in many ways and it’s a good debate to whether his captaincy had a net positive or net negative effect on Pakistan cricket, however I think it’s not at all debatable that his tenure as coach has been an absolute disaster all round.

3-0 loss to SL, 2-0 against Australia with both being an innings, 2-0 to New Zealand, first series loss to England in 10 years and many other embarrassing moments. Nothing except poor and pathetic performances with occasional victories on the back of individual performances and not through strategically planned team efforts

 

[Yasir_ch]

He is the worst thing ever happened to Pakistan cricket.He has destroyed pakistan cricket while Playing and now he is destroying as a coach.The sooner they rid of this useless individual better it's gonna be for Pakistan cricket

 

[JibranAnsari]

Lol misbah is great evil schemer۔

 

[JibranAnsari]

This remains the most iconic achievement of pakistan in last 25 years.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

This remains the most iconic achievement of pakistan in last 25 years.

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No.1 test team that lasted for 2 seconds, and then shortly after getting whitewashed back to back by NZ and Aus. An achievement that’s already forgotten about, and if you ask every cricketer, they’d take a CT trophy or a WT20 trophy over a test mace every day of the week.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

This remains the most iconic achievement of pakistan in last 25 years.

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If that’s your standard and method to feel good about yourself, then test cricket is not for you.

We all know how we reached there.

Now, here is the question for you, what was Pak’s test ranking when Misbah decided to hang his shoes, since Misbah is also responsible for that ranking.

 

[Hawkeye]

Poor guy put in a lot of effort to write this fiction essay.

Only to get bashed. Rightly so, for the terrible standard of this essay.

Misbah's been giving him the burns since ages. And it's evident Misbah and Pakistan's success is still biting [MENTION=146948]Slim[/MENTION].

 

[Hawkeye]

Facts? More like biased opinions.

If you want to talk about facts where is the fact that Misbah is Pakistan's most successful test captain? Or that he picked the team up from the ashes of the 2010 spot-fixing scandal and turned them into an unbeatable side in UAE? Or that he took Pakistan to the top of the test rankings? Or that he averaged 51 with the bat as captain of Pakistan? Those are actual undisputable facts.

Misbah had the unfortunate responsibility of leading one of the consistently worst Pakistan sides in history. The fact that he was able to achieve as much as he did is remarkable on its own.

And you know what I can understand people disliking Misbah, even hating him. But this is just blind hate. It is without reason. Most of the stuff you've mentioned here are just your opinions. There is no way for you to ascertain with evidence that Misbah was responsible for alot these things you blame him for. On other things you are simply going by hearsay.

Well balanced post.

Funny how the thread has backfired.

)

 

[IMMY69]

If that’s your standard and method to feel good about yourself, then test cricket is not for you.

We all know how we reached there.

Now, here is the question for you, what was Pak’s test ranking when Misbah decided to hang his shoes, since Misbah is also responsible for that ranking.

Don't be blinded by misguided hate.

That test team under Misbah did exceptionally well considering the circumstances and he deserves credit for that.

 

[YousafTheBeast]

Don't be blinded by misguided hate.

That test team under Misbah did exceptionally well considering the circumstances and he deserves credit for that.

Like drawing to Zimbabwe in a test series?

 

[cricketfan11]

Misbah was "successful" because he found a way to win in UAE. That is the extent of his achievements. However he does deserve credit for that.

His supporters take pride in the fact that his overly defensive approach was necessary in order to provide some calm to a troubled team. He did provide calmness and stability but it didn't really help Pakistan in the long term. What the team needed was aggression and passion. That is what every other major team in the world was working on - PCB just got it all wrong at that time.

 

[IMMY69]

Like drawing to Zimbabwe in a test series?

and Pakistan also managed to whitewash England in the UAE.

But no that's not why. He took the helm at a very bad period in our cricketing history when there were bans for spot fixing and we couldn't play at home.

I'm just giving credit where credits due.

 

[TheSultan]

1. Please stop saying Misbah took them to no2 or no1. Within a year, they were down to no6/7. That no1/2 doesn’t count if you can’t sustain it and have such a sharp fall.
2. He was abysmal as a limited overs captain
3. His coaching is a monumental joke. He has probably presided over the worst performances pakistan has put up in England and Australia. We have been bad in Aus, but the last tour has literally had aussie ex players with head in hands pointing to it being the worst team they’ve had on their shores.
4. Absolute disastrous tour of NZ recently too where traditionally it’s been a happy hunting ground for Pak - yes the kiwis are a better team now, but never have I seen us be that pathetic in the field that we saw recently.
5. The Oathgate issue I don’t know if he was the ringleader, but he was definitely part of the group that was opposing younis
6. His brand of cricket is tired - a lot of people are sick of it

Even if all his die hard fans want to absolve him of all blame, can we all please just agree that it really would not hurt having Misbah away from the setup for a while. We’ve had this since 2010 and we need a change, any change. Sick of the sight of him

 

[iniqbal223]

To all the Misbah's LOVERS/HATERS :

Please give your ratings out of 5 for him (all for cricketing reasons), and we will know what he is good at and what he is not--

1) Is he a strategic and shrewd from cricketing point of view
2) Is he defensive person for cricketing decisions point of view
3) Does he take risks when needed
4) Does he has a plan to succeed overseas (except UAE and Asia)
5) Is he a good communicator
6) Is he a controversy free personality?
7) Does he has a vision to succeed in future
8) Does he get along with youngsters and guide them


I think if someone has other points they can write down theirs as well

This way we know where his strengths and weaknesses are , and where should he ideally be suited for

Its sad, this review should have been done by PCB, but we know how maniac they are in their work

 

[Rana]

As a coach/limited overs cricket mind in the 21st century, I think Misbah is trash.

However, I don’t think Misbah is the evil politician/backstabber type player. Don’t think he is the type that would initiate an oath gate like Mohammad Yousuf would.

 

[TheSultan]

As a coach/limited overs cricket mind in the 21st century, I think Misbah is trash.

However, I don’t think Misbah is the evil politician/backstabber type player. Don’t think he is the type that would initiate an oath gate like Mohammad Yousuf would.

I think it’s quite presumptuous to throw Yousuf under the bus too. Truth is no one really knows who was the main culprit/ring leader behind oathgate.

Just as everyone says there’s not enough evidence against Misbah, the same should apply to yousuf

Yousuf was the next captain but I think it was a compromise - much like how Salim Malik was made captain as a compromise when Waqar led a revolt vs Wasim in 1993

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I think it’s quite presumptuous to throw Yousuf under the bus too. Truth is no one really knows who was the main culprit/ring leader behind oathgate.

Just as everyone says there’s not enough evidence against Misbah, the same should apply to yousuf

Yousuf was the next captain but I think it was a compromise - much like how Salim Malik was made captain as a compromise when Waqar led a revolt vs Wasim in 1993

Shoaib Malik and Yousaf's name are usually uttered when it comes to oathgate. But no one has let it out in the open especially some reliable narrator not prima donnas like our players from that era.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

I think it’s quite presumptuous to throw Yousuf under the bus too. Truth is no one really knows who was the main culprit/ring leader behind oathgate.

Just as everyone says there’s not enough evidence against Misbah, the same should apply to yousuf

Yousuf was the next captain but I think it was a compromise - much like how Salim Malik was made captain as a compromise when Waqar led a revolt vs Wasim in 1993

Yousaf had been quite salty since Shoaib Malik was appointed as captain back in 2007 as well. He had a very well documented falling out with Malik as well regarding his dropping from wt20 07 squad.
Malik might also have had some revenge to cause disturbance in the team during Younis Khan's reign and subsequent Yousaf's tenure.

 

[JibranAnsari]

If that’s your standard and method to feel good about yourself, then test cricket is not for you.

We all know how we reached there.

Now, here is the question for you, what was Pak’s test ranking when Misbah decided to hang his shoes, since Misbah is also responsible for that ranking.

this is how bad pakistan cricket is.

This is our best moment in test cricket for good 25 years , no matter how we reached there. Try and get there now.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Don't be blinded by misguided hate.

That test team under Misbah did exceptionally well considering the circumstances and he deserves credit for that.

Exactly!
And how do you measure that? By test ranking.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

this is how bad pakistan cricket is.

This is our best moment in test cricket for good 25 years , no matter how we reached there. Try and get there now.

well, Misbah is still in charge of many many things. We should've been there already by now. No?

 

[iniqbal223]

Misbah : 6 years

Achievements : Test ranking #1 (for few days)
Asia Cup 2012 Win
Beating India in India
Beating SAF in SAF
Lost all matches to India in ICC tournaments under him
Mohali 2011


What else ?

Sarfaraz 1.5 years in captaincy
Achievement : CT
#1 T20 ranked for more than 1 year

Younis Khan 0.8 years captaincy
Achievement : 2009 T20 WC win
Pakistan beat India in 2006 in test series
Reached SF in 2009 CT



Point is if you give someone 6 years in one job; he can easily become better than donkey; So Misbah's lovers get a life;;; Haven't you seen him enough already??

Misbah has not paid to buy Pakistan Cricket; in fact he is the least qualified person to be the coach as well

 

[iniqbal223]

Don't be blinded by misguided hate.

That test team under Misbah did exceptionally well considering the circumstances and he deserves credit for that.

He got his due by continuing to remain captain.. Hasn't he

-----

his captaincy is history; done and dusted

 

[Savak]

Younis had a very authorative style of captaincy. He has demanding a lot of powers and his style of leadership was very similar to Wasim Akram's first tenure from 1993-94 where he was bossy, abusive, confrontational with each and every member of the team. This was going to end badly eventually and it did when none of the players in the team wanted to play for him.

Younis also created insecurity in the team by dropping players under the pretext of resting them and fiddling around unnecessarily with the batting order. Yousaf however in hindsight now feels the way Younis was dealing aggressively with Misbah Malik gang was spot on.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

Misbah : 6 years

Achievements : Test ranking #1 (for few days)
Asia Cup 2012 Win
Beating India in India
Beating SAF in SAF
Lost all matches to India in ICC tournaments under him
Mohali 2011


What else ?

Sarfaraz 1.5 years in captaincy
Achievement : CT
#1 T20 ranked for more than 1 year

Younis Khan 0.8 years captaincy
Achievement : 2009 T20 WC win
Pakistan beat India in 2006 in test series
Reached SF in 2009 CT



Point is if you give someone 6 years in one job; he can easily become better than donkey; So Misbah's lovers get a life;;; Haven't you seen him enough already??

Misbah has not paid to buy Pakistan Cricket; in fact he is the least qualified person to be the coach as well

And now this oathgate has put a final nail in the coffin.
However, this is Pakistan cricket, no wonder folks like him sit at the top posts.

 

[ArabKnight]

- Nawaz Sharif gave Misbah a prize of 10 million PKR ($90,000 USD) at his retirement (source https://www.crictracker.com/afridi-misbah-younis-receive-10-million-pm-nawaz-sharif)

- Najam Sethi interviewed Misbah on TV whilst being the Chairman in 2013 - and said he would be captain for 2015 WC (source https://tribune.com.pk/story/635288/its-called-conflict-of-interest-sir)

- Chairman Shahrayar Khan commented that Misbah is a better captain than Imran Khan in 2017 (source https://www.geo.tv/amp/140505-Misbah-better-captain-than-Imran-Shahryar-Khan)

- Misbah got the most prolific retirement game of perhaps any Pakistan player (so rare) (source https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...ents-of-misbah-ul-haq-and-younis-khan-1093559)

The list goes on.

@topspin

 

[ArabKnight]

Dont be fooled by the narrative that he has no controversies. This guy is extremely well connected and has a powerful gidar singhi which explains his upward trajectory in Pakistan Cricket from absolute obscurity in 2007.

Won't surprise me if he becomes the PCB chairman next

He is extremely well connected indeed. Refer to my earlier post.

 

[TheSultan]

This remains the most iconic achievement of pakistan in last 25 years.

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I’ll tell you another achievement that will never be surpassed - to go from no1 to no7 in less than a year - wonder why no one mentions that “achievement” of Misbah

 

[Major]

- Nawaz Sharif gave Misbah a prize of 10 million PKR ($90,000 USD) at his retirement (source https://www.crictracker.com/afridi-misbah-younis-receive-10-million-pm-nawaz-sharif)

- Najam Sethi interviewed Misbah on TV whilst being the Chairman in 2013 - and said he would be captain for 2015 WC (source https://tribune.com.pk/story/635288/its-called-conflict-of-interest-sir)

- Chairman Shahrayar Khan commented that Misbah is a better captain than Imran Khan in 2017 (source https://www.geo.tv/amp/140505-Misbah-better-captain-than-Imran-Shahryar-Khan)

- Misbah got the most prolific retirement game of perhaps any Pakistan player (so rare) (source https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...ents-of-misbah-ul-haq-and-younis-khan-1093559)

The list goes on.

@topspin

Younis, Misbah and Afridi all were given 10m each. Nice try there, you wanted to imply that he was given money under the table and did not mention the other players.

 

[Major]

- Nawaz Sharif gave Misbah a prize of 10 million PKR ($90,000 USD) at his retirement (source https://www.crictracker.com/afridi-misbah-younis-receive-10-million-pm-nawaz-sharif)

- Najam Sethi interviewed Misbah on TV whilst being the Chairman in 2013 - and said he would be captain for 2015 WC (source https://tribune.com.pk/story/635288/its-called-conflict-of-interest-sir)

- Chairman Shahrayar Khan commented that Misbah is a better captain than Imran Khan in 2017 (source https://www.geo.tv/amp/140505-Misbah-better-captain-than-Imran-Shahryar-Khan)

- Misbah got the most prolific retirement game of perhaps any Pakistan player (so rare) (source https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...ents-of-misbah-ul-haq-and-younis-khan-1093559)

The list goes on.

@topspin

another lie, in that how can Sethi predict that Misbah would be captain in 2015 world cup when even MIsbah himself wasnt sure? the source you provided does not mention that.

again, another nice try in spinning up stuff around here, thinking that no one will read the source.

 

[topspin]

- Nawaz Sharif gave Misbah a prize of 10 million PKR ($90,000 USD) at his retirement

- Najam Sethi interviewed Misbah on TV whilst being the Chairman in 2013 - and said he would be captain for 2015 WC

- Chairman Shahrayar Khan commented that Misbah is a better captain than Imran Khan in 2017

- Misbah got the most prolific retirement game of perhaps any Pakistan player (so rare)

The list goes on.

@topspin

@Major

I've done my due diligence just now. I can promise you, all of the above points made by ArabKnight are true. You can google the first x 3 points for yourself.

We don't need to Google the last point because Misbah did get the best send off I've ever seen for a Pakistan cricketer. I remember the post-match presentation very well. You know I have excellent long-term memory and let me tell you what I specifically remember that day after the match had finished. Ramiz was doing the post-match presentation/interviews and he made it all about Misbah, as if Younis Khan was some nobody.

 

[ArabKnight]

Younis, Misbah and Afridi all were given 10m each. Nice try there, you wanted to imply that he was given money under the table and did not mention the other players.

Younis and Afridi are both good friends of Nawaz Sharif. Plus Younis retired at the same time as Misbah. Of course, he’s gonna get some money too.

So what, government has alot of money to throw at multiple friends.

 

[mominsaigol]

I'm not gonna say anything cause misbah is a sensitive topic clearly, but all I'll say is.

Their is a reason we say the dark days of misbah and never say the dark days of Inzi, same reason we always say the friendship 11 of Babar but never the friendship 11 of wasim akram.

It's dead set clear the 2 of these deliberately have tried to sabotage pakistan cricket.

I remember misbah outright refusing to drop nasir jamshed for sarfi until he was forced to against the sa game, outright going so far to defend both jamshed and younis on the media but bash fawad alam and sarfraz to justify their non inclusions, when sarfi and fawad were clearly the best players during the 2014-2015 era. Not saying fawad or sarfi are legendary but in what universe does umar akmal get to keep over sarfraz and younis khan/Asad shafiq/nasir jamshed get selected over fawad, Azhar and Sami aslam who was in good nick at 2014. (DON'T QUOTE ME on sami aslam's stats in international and his Crybaby nature to the USA, he was clearly pur best bet in 2014 domestic, granted he fizzled out later when he got chances, his 45 of 50 against Bangladesh deserved a call up over nasir jamshed who lacked the ability to even get a double digit score).

Same with babar, Throws zaman Khan under the bus and rightfully so, but praises shadab and nawaz as if their as valuable as murli and Warne .

 

[Technics 1210]

Many of you may not know or realise, that the 2007 WC final scoop shot changed Misbah forever.

That one shot turned him into a defensive player.

It's called experience.

After the dark days of 2010, Misbah had to steer the ship, and his defensive mindset paid dividends in Test cricket.

Outside of that we all know that he was never the same white ball player after 2007, even more shocking was to see Misbah's aggression in Test (A blistering 56 ball century equaling King Viv's record) all at the tender age of 40.

His crime, was replacing aggression with regression in white ball cricket. He should have quit White ball cricket long before he did.

Though how he came into management and senior positions is another mystery, but PCB must share the blame too.

 

[ArabKnight]

another lie, in that how can Sethi predict that Misbah would be captain in 2015 world cup when even MIsbah himself wasnt sure? the source you provided does not mention that.

again, another nice try in spinning up stuff around here, thinking that no one will read the source.

Sethi is on record saying that. Pretty bizarre statement to say 2 years prior to the WC?

 

[topspin]

I'm not gonna say anything cause misbah is a sensitive topic clearly, but all I'll say is.

Their is a reason we say the dark days of misbah and never say the dark days of Inzi, same reason we always say the friendship 11 of Babar but never the friendship 11 of wasim akram.

It's dead set clear the 2 of these deliberately have tried to sabotage pakistan cricket.

I remember misbah outright refusing to drop nasir jamshed for sarfi until he was forced to against the sa game, outright going so far to defend both jamshed and younis on the media but bash fawad alam and sarfraz to justify their non inclusions, when sarfi and fawad were clearly the best players during the 2014-2015 era. Not saying fawad or sarfi are legendary but in what universe does umar akmal get to keep over sarfraz and younis khan/Asad shafiq/nasir jamshed get selected over fawad, Azhar and Sami aslam who was in good nick at 2014. (DON'T QUOTE ME on sami aslam's stats in international and his Crybaby nature to the USA, he was clearly pur best bet in 2014 domestic, granted he fizzled out later when he got chances, his 45 of 50 against Bangladesh deserved a call up over nasir jamshed who lacked the ability to even get a double digit score).

Same with babar, Throws zaman Khan under the bus and rightfully so, but praises shadab and nawaz as if their as valuable as murli and Warne .

Excellent post.

Lets also not forget what Misbah did in the 2013 CT as well. He picked Imran Farhat and Umar Amin.

Also he went out of his way to express his wish for Azhar Ali to be the next ODI captain even though he wasn't even part of the ODI squad, let alone the XI - advice which the dumb PCB acted on.

Misbah never cared about the best interests of the Pakistan team. I spotted this, 12 years ago, on the dreaded and cursed day in Mohali when he was batting for himself in a semi-final of a WC of all games! He set the precedent of playing for your milestones/average and that's exactly the template that Babar is following today.

 

[Major]

Sethi is on record saying that. Pretty bizarre statement to say 2 years prior to the WC?

these pics make these guys friends? Whats next uzair baloch is a freind of afrid cause of a pic?

 

[mominsaigol]

Excellent post.

Lets also not forget what Misbah did in the 2013 CT as well. He picked Imran Farhat and Umar Amin.

Also he went out of his way to express his wish for Azhar Ali to be the next ODI captain even though he wasn't even part of the ODI squad, let alone the XI - advice which the dumb PCB acted on.

Misbah never cared about the best interests of the Pakistan team. I spotted this, 12 years ago, on the dreaded and cursed day in Mohali when he was batting for himself in a semi-final of a WC of all games! He set the precedent of playing for your milestones/average and that's exactly the template that Babar is following today.

Oh yes I remember, he made umar amin, a guy who just made his debut, his vice captain .

 

[Bilal7]

Misbah remains our best post-Inzi captain. The people who dislike him are ignorant. This guy ended the era of infighting and groupings within the team; ensured we became a respected team in the eyes of the cricketing fraternity; and eventually took us to #1 in the world.

It's a lie that he was the mastermind behind oathgate. Younis played under him for years without issue. The people still moaning about 2007 or 2011 need to grow up and stop crying. Misbah did not lose us those games, the guys who barely contributed to our score did.

There is also no evidence for him being a roadblock for any youngsters. Plenty of guys had their debut under him.

 

[mominsaigol]

R

Misbah remains our best post-Inzi captain. The people who dislike him are ignorant. This guy ended the era of infighting and groupings within the team; ensured we became a respected team in the eyes of the cricketing fraternity; and eventually took us to #1 in the world.

It's a lie that he was the mastermind behind oathgate. Younis played under him for years without issue. The people still moaning about 2007 or 2011 need to grow up and stop crying. Misbah did not lose us those games, the guys who barely contributed to our score did.

There is also no evidence for him being a roadblock for any youngsters. Plenty of guys had their debut under him.

Right, cause losing 3-0 in the CT and advocating for nasir jamshed over sarfraz is clearly best captaincy material.

 

[daytrader]

Sethi is on record saying that. Pretty bizarre statement to say 2 years prior to the WC?

Don't hear any words from Sethi in this but daammmn those legendary sixes

 

[Stewie]

Can you negate any facts?

How about the one about the rankings?

It was under Misbah we became number 1 test team even if it was for just a day. Isn’t that a fact?

 

[TheSultan]

How about the one about the rankings?

It was under Misbah we became number 1 test team even if it was for just a day. Isn’t that a fact?

To be the best in the world you need to be able to beat some of the bigger teams in their back yard.

We didn’t beat Aus in Aus
We didn’t beat England in England
We didn’t ever play India (in that period)
We didn’t beat SA in SA
We beat NZ (but big deal we’d beaten them in NZ over and over again from the 80s)

We got to no1 on a technicality - and yes we won a few series at home (uae).

But it had no depth and the evidence of that is we went from 1-7 very very quickly. So let’s celebrate 2 seconds at no1 but also hang our heads in shame for dropping to 7 all too quickly too.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

His biggest crime was the injustice against Sarfraz he showed throughout his pathetic tenures as captain and coach/selector.

First as @mominsaigol mentioned, he had the rubbish Jamshed open for three consecutive games and was only forced to bring in Sarfraz to save Pakistan from a round 1 elimination in the 2015 world cup. What this shows is Misbah was clearly aware that Sarfraz was a match winner and was required when the going got tough but he still choose Jamshed and Akmal as keeper. Mark my words, if Sarfraz was played from the first game of that world cup we would have won 1 of our games vs Ind or Wi and made probably have made it to the semi's in that case

The second and even bigger injustice was him removing Sarfraz as captain and dropping him from the squad all together, replacing him with our worst keeper since Adnan Akmal. The results are their to see for us all, from the number 1 T20 team we have now become laughing stocks, losing to Zimbabwe in a world cup, losing to England at home and only winning against B and C teams with Rizwan selfish stat padding being the primary reason. In test cricket we went from drawing against England in England (the same England that beat India 4-1) to losing agianst England 3-0 at home.

All I can hope for now is for Zaka Ashraf or maybe even Shakil Sheikh to see the light and bring Sarfraz back, if not then Misbah's vengeance against him may be the reason cricket sees the same fate as hockey

 

[mominsaigol]

His biggest crime was the injustice against Sarfraz he showed throughout his pathetic tenures as captain and coach/selector.

First as @mominsaigol mentioned, he had the rubbish Jamshed open for three consecutive games and was only forced to bring in Sarfraz to save Pakistan from a round 1 elimination in the 2015 world cup. What this shows is Misbah was clearly aware that Sarfraz was a match winner and was required when the going got tough but he still choose Jamshed and Akmal as keeper. Mark my words, if Sarfraz was played from the first game of that world cup we would have won 1 of our games vs Ind or Wi and made probably have made it to the semi's in that case

The second and even bigger injustice was him removing Sarfraz as captain and dropping him from the squad all together, replacing him with our worst keeper since Adnan Akmal. The results are their to see for us all, from the number 1 T20 team we have now become laughing stocks, losing to Zimbabwe in a world cup, losing to England at home and only winning against B and C teams with Rizwan selfish stat padding being the primary reason. In test cricket we went from drawing against England in England (the same England that beat India 4-1) to losing agianst England 3-0 at home.

All I can hope for now is for Zaka Ashraf or maybe even Shakil Sheikh to see the light and bring Sarfraz back, if not then Misbah's vengeance against him may be the reason cricket sees the same fate as hockey

Theirs plenty more of misbah's nonsense.

1) shoving Umar akmal from no 3 a position where he was scoring well and sohaib maqsood a guy who at no 3 and 4 made multiple half centuries and 89 unbeaten score at no 6 just to accommodate asad shafiq at no 3 who kept and kept failing at no 3.

2) Randomly bringing in imran farhat to open for no reason.

3) dropping unar akmal and shahid afridi in ct 2013 and bringing umar amin a guy who just made his debut, his vice captain.

4) Having umar akmal keep and never allowing sarfi to open choosing nasir jamshed, a guy who can't even score a double digit score to open instead.

5) Dropping sami aslam a guy who outperformed ahmed shehzad, and choosing ahmed shezad for the cup, even telling the media that sami was dropped because ahmed didn't get enough chances to prove himself to be superior to sami.

6) taking pakistan to no 7 slot

7) choosing younis khan a guy who hadn't played odi cricket for nearly 4 years and a proven failure in odi, over fawad alam who was the highest run scorer in 2014

8) keeping azhar Ali out of odi and then randomly selecting him as his Successor.

9) Removing a fit and inform haris sohail from the squad

10) Having hafeez a middle order bat who struggles against swing, open against swing and face Dale styen over and over.

Then when he came back misbah as coach

1) Kept backing asif Ali at no 7 and keeping genuine power hitters like haris out of that no 7 spot.

2) Ruin haider Ali by relegating him to a lower order pinch hitter when he's a top order batsmen.

3) backing khusdil Shah as a lower order hitter and removing inad waseem from the team even though imad was easily your established lower order hitter.

4) Removing inform fakhar from opening slot and shoving him to no 3 to accommodate rizwan.

5) Booting sarfraz out of the team just like he tried to do so on 2015.

So on and so forth.


Misbah doesn't care about pakistan cricket. He only adopted the philopshy that test cricketers and tried and tested failures like ahmed shehzad, Imran farhat, Younis khan shpuld play at the top order, and genuine top order strikers like umar akmal, Fakhar zaman, shpuld all be relegated to lower order pinch hitters and actual lower order finishers shpuld be replaced by one hit miracle wonders like asif Ali.

Also misbah's own 50 of 80 balls approach didn't help either. One thing sarfraz did at no 5 that misbah never did, hit a 100 from a collapsed position against prime England bowlers.

Misbah would have taken 100 balls just to get to a 65 lol.

 

[CerebralPatriot]

^ POTW and just to add to that beautiful summary
- Keeping Fawad Alam out of the team from 2011 to 2020 even though he was averaging 70 plus in first class cricket
- Keeping Saud Shakeel out of the team from 2016-2022 even though he was one of the most prolific batsmen in the domestic circuit and had age on his side
- Never bringing Sharjeel into the test arena unlike teams such as Australia who invested in hard hitters like Warner and reaped all the rewards
- Never selecting Mir Hamza in our tours to Nz or Eng even though he was second to Amir as our best swing bowler
- Always switching an inform Asad Shafiq's position from 6 to 3 and back to 6 thus making Shafiq unsure about his position causing a dip of form, a dip Misbah exploited to drop him
- Never selecting Khurram Manzoor or Shan in ODIs even though both averaged 50 +
- Selecting Danish Aziz for one series (on the tough tracks of South Africa vs Rabada and Nortje) and then dropping him
- Shoving Rizwan down our throats as a T20I opener and test keeper (joke of the century)

Please feel free everyone else to add some more examples, the list is infinite

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Misbah was a terrific test captain and player.

Ordinary ODI captain and player.

Amazing T20 player at the start but played too long and didn't suit the format in the end.

A complete dud as coach/selector.

He is quite an intelligent person but stubborn and stuck to his ways. I think he would be useful in the PCB but not for direct cricket related affairs. As an operational position running domestic cricket for example he would be quite good.

 

[BouncerGuy]

Remember that test series against England in 2016, Misbah selected Mohammad Irfan, who was 34 years old and had fitness issues, as a fast bowler instead of giving a chance to a young fast bowler Mir Hamza. Irfan broke down after bowling just five overs in the first Test and was ruled out for the rest of the series. Correct me if I am wrong. He also selected Muhammad Sami in the 2016 T20i World Cup.

 

[mominsaigol]

Remember that test series against England in 2016, Misbah selected Mohammad Irfan, who was 34 years old and had fitness issues, as a fast bowler instead of giving a chance to a young fast bowler Mir Hamza. Irfan broke down after bowling just five overs in the first Test and was ruled out for the rest of the series. Correct me if I am wrong. He also selected Muhammad Sami in the 2016 T20i World Cup.

He did, as @CerebralPatriot mentioned, the list is virtually Infinte with misbah lol.

 

[Technics 1210]

Misbah was a terrific test captain and player.

Ordinary ODI captain and player.

Amazing T20 player at the start but played too long and didn't suit the format in the end.

A complete dud as coach/selector.

He is quite an intelligent person but stubborn and stuck to his ways. I think he would be useful in the PCB but not for direct cricket related affairs. As an operational position running domestic cricket for example he would be quite good.

Agree, Misbah should be Test batting coach, tops!

 

[BouncerGuy]

He did, as @CerebralPatriot mentioned, the list is virtually Infinte with misbah lol.

yeah, list is gonna be long if we want to keep discussing the blunders made by him. that 2007 world cup final shot was the biggest blunder for me. Top 1

 

[mominsaigol]

yeah, list is gonna be long if we want to keep discussing the blunders made by him. that 2007 world cup final shot was the biggest blunder for me. Top 1

No I mean that's unfair.

A player making a blunder is not why I dislike misbah, it happens in the game of sports.

The thing is, things like nasir jamshed over sarfi, these weren't blunders. Their deliberate.

If you wanna know why it's for a few reasons.

No 1: Misbah isn't a good odi player, their were dozens to could replace him, but by choosing trash players at the top that could collapse easily, misbah could play risk free cricket and make those 50 of 80 balls and claim he's an asset to the team and give the illusion he's a rock that can hold things together.

Truth is, With an opening of Ahmed shezad, Nasir jamshed and asad shafiq or whichever opener misbah brought, a collapse was always gonna happen lol.

No 2: God forbid any player can actually strike at 90 to 140 as the innings progresses, they all must be relegated to the lower order.

Like bro, if you want lower order batsmen then choose genuine batsmen who play In the lower order in domestic.

Misbah is the prime example of playing openers as lower order, middle order as openers and vice versa.

Just like how babar was willing to outright throw zaman Khan under the bus but support shafab and nawaz, same way misbah use to do the same for players like shehzad and nasir jamshed.

Don't get me wrong, Babar was right to critise zaman Khan, but then don't be a hypocrite, outright admit that shadab and nawaz were so bad, the public would rather choose minnow spinners over these 2.

It's the same with misbah, he outright said sami shouldn't be selected despite easily outperforming shehzad in his international endeavour simply because Ahmed shehzad didn't get enough chances to prove himself, like joke of the century, the dude use to be pur frontline opener with over 50+ matches under his belt.

Same way he said fawad alam the top international run scorer for pak in odi in 2014 shouldn't be selected over younis khan because fawad can't clear the long boundaries in Australia, even though 90% of our matches were in new Zealand and fawad easily cleared 80M boundaries in Asia cup lol.

Simply put, having someone like haris sohail, fawad alam, sami aslam( When he was in 2014 prime), Azhar Ali, saud shakeel, Umar akmal( At the top order), Sarfraz etc, these players would ruin misbah's position in the squad.

I remember one game where misbah was out and shahid afridi promoted himself at no 5 and hit a 30 ball 55, and everyone straight up wanted misbah gone from the odi team.

These collapses gave everyone the illusion that misbah was forced to play 80 ball 50's and he was the revoverer of Pakistan. Look how sarfraz recovered Pakistan from a collapsed position against England scoring a 100 at 110 SR against prime England. Look how umar akmal recovered Pakistan from a collapsed position against afghanistan. Look how fawad alam recovered Pakistan from a collapsed position and allowed Pakistan to beat bangaldesh.

The whole misbah was our saviour is nonsense.

 

[shah9425]

His biggest crime was the injustice against Sarfraz he showed throughout his pathetic tenures as captain and coach/selector.

First as @mominsaigol mentioned, he had the rubbish Jamshed open for three consecutive games and was only forced to bring in Sarfraz to save Pakistan from a round 1 elimination in the 2015 world cup. What this shows is Misbah was clearly aware that Sarfraz was a match winner and was required when the going got tough but he still choose Jamshed and Akmal as keeper. Mark my words, if Sarfraz was played from the first game of that world cup we would have won 1 of our games vs Ind or Wi and made probably have made it to the semi's in that case

The second and even bigger injustice was him removing Sarfraz as captain and dropping him from the squad all together, replacing him with our worst keeper since Adnan Akmal. The results are their to see for us all, from the number 1 T20 team we have now become laughing stocks, losing to Zimbabwe in a world cup, losing to England at home and only winning against B and C teams with Rizwan selfish stat padding being the primary reason. In test cricket we went from drawing against England in England (the same England that beat India 4-1) to losing agianst England 3-0 at home.

All I can hope for now is for Zaka Ashraf or maybe even Shakil Sheikh to see the light and bring Sarfraz back, if not then Misbah's vengeance against him may be the reason cricket sees the same fate as hockey

What was sarfraz personal performance during his captaincy
Give me answer to this question

 

[mominsaigol]

What was sarfraz personal performance during his captaincy
Give me answer to this question

Bro listen, It's not about personal performances, I admit sarfraz isn't a godly bat or anything. This is a political argument more or less.

Misbah and Babar are the type of players who care about themselves and their buddies rather then the country. Its all about mindset.

Babar threw Zaman Khan under the bus for simply not bowling well, which is good, zaman should be reprimanded for not being international standards, but then he outright lies and states shadab and nawaz bowled well. That's a complete lie, shadab and nawaz were the worst bowlers in the Asia cup tournament, far worse then even minnow Nepal spinners.

Similarly rizwan can get whatever he wants. Rizwan wanted to bat at no 4 and he got his wish. Yesterday besides saud who played at a proper 140 Sr and gave part time bowlers like daily Mitchell and Glenn Philips the treatment they deserve, Every other bat like rizwan and Babar were playing at that 90 to 110 Sr which isn't good enough.

Someone like ravindra or Saud should not be striking better then MR no 2 t20 batsmen and Mr no 1 odi batsmen, considering these guys are part time bowlers. Same way every NZ bat was striking at 120 to 140 besides kane Williamson who is injured, and even Williamson Sr was higher then babar. Its because milestones matter more to these guys rather then retiring out at 50 like everyone else was doing.

Misbah use to do the same thing, advocated for nasir jamshed over sarfi because according to misbah nasir jamshed had not been given chances, same with how he made umar amin vice captain, even though the guy was a debutant. Misbah also outright lied on media.

CT 2017 Sri lanka and SA victory may have been a fluke, but semi final and final against England and India wasn't, we butchered the 2 Strongest teams in the tournament. Wanna know why?

Because sarfi unlike babar and misbah never lied on media, he never chose his buddies nor did he utilise any nepotism, he instilled a winning belief and relied on his players and developed a winning mindset, he didn't care about his so called no 4 spot like rizzu.

Azhar unlike imam who goes on his merry way, actually complimented fakhar and made sure to keep up the run rate with fakhar who was stinking, he kept pace with him and made an effort to go after the bowling. Babar In 2018 didn't care about his milestones and went after the bowling as well, same with hafeez, malik etc. These guys attacked and didn't care about milestones, the same way our bowlers attacked and went for the kill. Sarfi also never stuck by the formula like babar does and let's teams recover.

In 2017 we played like a collective unit for the country, we played for something bigger then ourselves.

In 2023 everyone is too busy fighting each other, playing against each other, competing for their slots by trying to lick the boots of golden boys (Rizzu,babar, Shaheen, Shadab), its this mindset which will cause us to fail.

Amir and imad aren't in the team because they aren't boot lickers, as imad says if the selectors don't like me just say it to my face.

Sarfi irrespective of whether he was a bad captain during 2018, he still made us win against NZ and England in 2019, 2 World cup finalists. Because if sarfi lost a match it wasn't because he was being selfish or being a bad captian.

He wasn't nepotistic and he gave it his all, misbah and babar have their own agendas and don't care about their places. Rizzu is already frustrated by losing his spot in test lol, he ain't gonna step down for saud lol.