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Did India stab Iran in the back?

sweep_shot said:
Modi is an illiterate, incompetent, toxic, and retarded chaiwala.

We can't expect anything better from him. Can we?

The fact Indian people elected him shows how low-IQ Indian population really is. :inti
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Even the high IQ ones support him unfortunately. Just have to look Rishi Sunak the unelected "British" PM of England to see that.
 
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
 
India voted against Iran in 2005 at the IAEA to please President Bush, to the surprise of Iran. Since then, the Iranian ruling class were more or less resigned to the fact that relations with India will never go beyond lukewarm & oil/trade.
 
It certainly doesn't look good on India that one of our warships that was in India on their invitation to participate in their event, was hit as soon as it left Indian waters by the Americans in the INDIAN OCEAN.

It means that India, which used to call itself a great power in the Indian ocean actually has no control of it beyond its Waters. This is an insult of India by Americans. That we can play our dirty wargames right in your yard.

I know some Indians are using the international waters excuse, but this is supposed to be your yard if one is to even believe they're a great regional power. Something like this happening right under their nose either points to them having no control there or being complicit.

We do not have very high expectations from other nations. That they will join us and fight along with us. But if we send our ships to your country on yout invitation and they get blown up right after leaving your shores, then shame on you if you still call the attackers your friends. They just disgtraced you and made you look small.
 
It appears to be the case. There has actually been no condemnation from the Indians either. They were training with these guys and then watched them get blown to smithereens but have nothing to say.
 
RexRex said:
India voted against Iran in 2005 at the IAEA to please President Bush, to the surprise of Iran. Since then, the Iranian ruling class were more or less resigned to the fact that relations with India will never go beyond lukewarm & oil/trade.
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That vote benefitted India immensely over the years , all the nuclear plants importing uranium work due to that.

But as recent as last vote India voted in favor of Iran against humanitarian crisis issue.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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Such a bufoonish comment. With your logic, the Pathetic and imported Government of Pakistan you voted for was begging to be part Of $#!tanyahu Trumps, Blairs so called Peace force!
 

US Sinking of Iranian Warship Piles Pressure on India’s Modi​


The US sinking of an Iranian warship off Sri Lanka’s coast expands the deepening Middle East war to India’s doorstep, unsettling New Delhi’s calibrated approach to the conflict as Iran vowed to avenge the attack.

A US submarine sank the Iranian frigate IRIS Dena off the coast of Sri Lanka on Wednesday, with 32 sailors rescued and more than 100 missing or dead. The episode was the first time since World War II that an American submarine had attacked a surface vessel, US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said.

The attack took place just days after the Iranian ship had participated in a flagship Indian naval exercise at the invitation of New Delhi, alongside Indian and other foreign warships. The incident places the government of Prime Minister Narendra Modi in a difficult position as it continues to avoid taking firm sides in the widening Middle East conflict.

A US submarine sank an Iranian warship off the coast of Sri Lanka, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said Wednesday in a briefing with reporters. He said this was the “first sinking of an enemy ship by a torpedo since World War II.”

It wasn’t immediately clear whether the US had informed India of its plans to conduct military activities in the region. India’s Ministries of Defence and External Affairs didn’t respond to requests for comment. The US Embassy in New Delhi also didn’t immediately respond.

“By sinking a vessel returning from an Indian-hosted multilateral exercise, Washington effectively turned India’s maritime neighborhood into a war zone, raising uncomfortable questions about India’s authority in its own backyard,” Brahma Chellaney, professor emeritus of strategic studies at the New Delhi-based Centre for Policy Research, said in a post on X.

The sinking of the IRIS Dena occurred in Sri Lanka’s exclusive economic zone in the Indian Ocean, a busy shipping corridor. The presence of a US submarine in the area raises concerns over trade routes, as well as strategic risks for India, which often conducts joint patrols with Sri Lanka in the waters.

The IRIS Dena was in India Feb. 15 to 25 to participate in the International Fleet Review, alongside vessels from 40 other countries including the US and Russia.

The incident “just demonstrates once more that navies do not fight like armies, lobbing men, machines, and ordnance across a line on the land, but engage wherever the enemy or his commerce might be found,” said Pradeep Chauhan, a retired vice admiral in India’s navy. “With China and Russia sending naval forces into the area, the situation is fraught with great risk for everyone.”

Modi Backlash
Modi’s government is already weathering criticism at home for not explicitly condemning the US and Israeli strikes on Iran. Modi had visited Israel and met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shortly before the joint US-Israeli strikes, prompting criticism from opposition figures that the visit provided tacit approval for the attacks.

The conflict puts India in a particularly difficult position. New Delhi has historical ties with Iran and had previously bought large quantities of its oil. At the same time, Modi faces precarious relations with the Trump administration after it slapped punitive 50% tariffs on Indian exports last year, before abruptly unveiling a trade deal that reduced the duties.

Relations with the US is a balancing act as India seeks to manage relations with key regional actors while safeguarding citizens and preserving energy, security and investment interests, according to Bloomberg Economics.

“The episode risks frictions with Washington and domestic embarrassment for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government,” Chetna Kumar and Adam Farrar, geoeconomics analysts for Bloomberg Economics, wrote Thursday.
While the strike on the vessel sets an uncomfortable precedent and increases political pressure on the Indian and Sri Lankan governments over the war, “we don’t see it as an indicator that the conflict is widening to South Asia,” they said.

Source: bloomberg
 
JaDed said:
Not seeing any dislike for India there.. they were in Lankan patrolled waters
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Yes India tried to get themselves off the hook with convenient excuse of Lankan waters.

There is no condemnation. No offer of rescue help. Nothing, just complete silence after a guest has been killed like this.
 
JaDed said:
Not seeing any dislike for India there.. they were in Lankan patrolled waters
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Rather than doing whataboutery, how about you condemn India's action for not answering their distress call or even offering simple condemnation? :inti

People are not stupid. We know what took place.
 
sweep_shot said:
Rather than doing whataboutery, how about you condemn India's action for not answering their distress call? :inti

People are not stupid. We know what took place.
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Only Sri Lanka could answer their distress call in those waters.. and lets not talk about stupidity.
 
Modi is compromised , his antics changed after his name was released in the Epstein files . I hate to think what they have on him, but on orders Modi would sell out his own wife .
 
One day after Netanyahu and Modi held hands and squeezed each other cheeks a bombing took place and 182 young women were killed.

One day after India invited Iranian friends to train together they were killed.

This is the same India that happily shared a stage with Hamas leaders in Iran a few months ago!
 
KingKhanWC said:
Modi is compromised , his antics changed after his name was released in the Epstein files . I hate to think what they have on him, but on orders Modi would sell out his own wife .
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Naw that’s the Entire Pakistani Establishment.. like you guys did all the years giving bases to Zionosts.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Modi is compromised , his antics changed after his name was released in the Epstein files . I hate to think what they have on him, but on orders Modi would sell out his own wife .
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Wrong example. He sold her anyway for a chai stall back in the day lol.
Poor woman is left with unconsummated marriage of 30+ years, while her husband dances for world leaders.
 
Saudi Jordan Uae Bahrain Qatar giving based to Zionists and folks here just on and on about India..

Clear evidence of Saudi wanting killing of Ayotollah repeated everywhere but yeah India is the issue..
 
DeadlyVenom said:
One day after Netanyahu and Modi held hands and squeezed each other cheeks a bombing took place and 182 young women were killed.

One day after India invited Iranian friends to train together they were killed.

This is the same India that happily shared a stage with Hamas leaders in Iran a few months ago!
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Sums up India. LOL.

This is why countries should be vigilant when it comes to dealing with India. India can change sides very quickly if they are offered some moolahs/perks. That has been their track record in recent times. :qdkcheeky
 
sweep_shot said:
Sums up India. LOL.

This is why countries should be vigilant when it comes to dealing with India. India can change sides very quickly if they are offered some moolahs/perks. That has been their track record in recent times. :qdkcheeky
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This has happened under Modi regime mainly. Congress and other parties didn't behave like this. Modi regime is full of chapris.

To sell out a guest is something only the most despicable would do.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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Not that I moved to England, but regardless why do people like you assume that everyone in England has to support their govt? Did you support Imran Khan when he was leader of Pakistan?

Just to show how dumb your argument is, but other than that next time just address the topic instead diverting to posters. If you have no useful input stay out.
 
Bhaijaan said:
It certainly doesn't look good on India that one of our warships that was in India on their invitation to participate in their event, was hit as soon as it left Indian waters by the Americans in the INDIAN OCEAN.

It means that India, which used to call itself a great power in the Indian ocean actually has no control of it beyond its Waters. This is an insult of India by Americans. That we can play our dirty wargames right in your yard.

I know some Indians are using the international waters excuse, but this is supposed to be your yard if one is to even believe they're a great regional power. Something like this happening right under their nose either points to them having no control there or being complicit.

We do not have very high expectations from other nations. That they will join us and fight along with us. But if we send our ships to your country on yout invitation and they get blown up right after leaving your shores, then shame on you if you still call the attackers your friends. They just disgtraced you and made you look small.
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Excellent response. India and Iran are big players in BRICS. Iranian ministers are now openly questioning which side is India really on. The Indian ocean belongs to the east not the west. There is only one interloper in an attack on these waters.
 
So this is the Truth " The vessel waited for 11 hours about 40 nautical miles off Galle port for permission from the Sri Lankan government to berth at Galle port " .

It was Sri Lanka, that failed to protect the ship. Iranians veseel was out of Indian water and close to or in Lankan water so asked the permission from Lanka। ।

https://twitter.com/x/status/2029492986409848930


I Hope now some idiots keep quiet 🤫 🤫 🤫 🤫

:klopp :kp
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Excellent response. India and Iran are big players in BRICS. Iranian ministers are now openly questioning which side is India really on. The Indian ocean belongs to the east not the west. There is only one interloper in an attack on these waters.
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Does China belong in these waters?
 
JaDed said:
Saudi Jordan Uae Bahrain Qatar giving based to Zionists and folks here just on and on about India..

Clear evidence of Saudi wanting killing of Ayotollah repeated everywhere but yeah India is the issue..
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<Putting on my Ashok Swain hat>

U c jaded it is modi regime which betrayed out iranian brothers who sacrificed so much for India. If not for India betrayeal, US submarine warfare is not where near sophisticated enough to detect and sink warships.

Its hindutva which enabled amrikans to carry out this treachery. There is no other possible explanation. not the $800B budget. not the 100 years of submarine warfare expertise.

Its all down to modi and hindutva
 
JaDed said:
Does China belong in these waters?
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This ship was returning unarmed from an event being hosted in India, in the Indian Ocean. India accepted the role of providing security in that part of the Indian ocean, hence the Iranian minister's quote "we thought we were in friendly waters".
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not that I moved to England, but regardless why do people like you assume that everyone in England has to support their govt? Did you support Imran Khan when he was leader of Pakistan?

Just to show how dumb your argument is, but other than that next time just address the topic instead diverting to posters. If you have no useful input stay out.
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Is his arguement more dumb than saying anyone that supports Modi is low IQ? Modi is 2 times Chief Minister of Gujarat and 3 times Prime Minister of India...which means mass majority of people have voted him into power in a democratic process. So calling all of those voters as low IQ or uneducated only shows the hatred. I know its not you but @sweep_shot has said it. However, you have never called his statement as dumb like what you are saying to @Major 's post.

What Major bhai saying has some semblance of reality in it. You guys hates on Israel 24*7 but still lives and pay tax in the UK which is the biggest ally of USA/Israel and Nato. Should you not br looking at your own house before pointing finger at Modi for siding with Israel?
 
Rajdeep said:
Is his arguement more dumb than saying anyone that supports Modi is low IQ? Modi is 2 times Chief Minister of Gujarat and 3 times Prime Minister of India...which means mass majority of people have voted him into power in a democratic process. So calling all of those voters as low IQ or uneducated only shows the hatred. I know its not you but @sweep_shot has said it. However, you have never called his statement as dumb like what you are saying to @Major 's post.

What Major bhai saying has some semblance of reality in it. You guys hates on Israel 24*7 but still lives and pay tax in the UK which is the biggest ally of USA/Israel and Nato. Should you not br looking at your own house before pointing finger at Modi for siding with Israel?
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You are going way off topic. If you want to accuse us of hating on israel 24/7 then bring it up in that thread. Both you and @Major are deflecting to UK Muslims. You can tag me in the British Pakistanis thread and I will answer you there if you like.

For this topic, please stick to India/Iran relations.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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Isn’t Pakistan doing the same when Pakistan receive the loan in $$ from IMF and pay interest from Pakistani tax payers?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Not that I moved to England, but regardless why do people like you assume that everyone in England has to support their govt? Did you support Imran Khan when he was leader of Pakistan?

Just to show how dumb your argument is, but other than that next time just address the topic instead diverting to posters. If you have no useful input stay out.
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Ahh yess, when the talk comes on you, how you live in the uk, the same country that funded zionism, gave it a room to grow and led to palestines divsion, if that gets pointed out than im the one who is dumb.

Never throw stones at others when you yourself live in a glass house
 
HalBass9 said:
Isn’t Pakistan doing the same when Pakistan receive the loan in $$ from IMF and pay interest from Pakistani tax payers?
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If they are, where am i complaining?

Its juts that uk people are not looking at themselves and wana discuss india.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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It’s no longer just about Iran vs Israel. For many Shias, it has become about the Supreme Leader of Iran, who they believe was the Hujjat of the time. Because of that belief, the situation has deeply affected Shia communities around the world. They have every right to stand with their Supreme Leader, support his country, and show solidarity with fellow Shias.

The real criticism should be directed at those Muslim countries that are openly supporting Israel or providing bases and assistance to attack another Muslim country.

As far as I know, the UK is not supporting Israel or the USA in a war against Iran, and Pakistan is also not backing Israel or the USA in such a conflict.

Pakistanis and British Pakistanis don’t really have a direct stake in this fight. At most, people can show moral support for Iran as a fellow Muslim country.

So far, neither Pakistan nor the UK has provided the USA with bases to attack Iran nor any support,

and Iran itself has not asked Pakistan for any military help.
 
Iranian ship was safe in Indian waters.. US would not dare to do any mischief in Indian waters... As they entered the Sri Lankan waters, US sabmarine moved in. Even then if Sri Lankan authorities had given them permission to dock earlier, nothing would have happened to them.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
You are going way off topic. If you want to accuse us of hating on israel 24/7 then bring it up in that thread. Both you and @Major are deflecting to UK Muslims. You can tag me in the British Pakistanis thread and I will answer you there if you like.

For this topic, please stick to India/Iran relations.
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Never said by someone when they cannot refute the points being raised.

Forget Israel, pls answer the first part. Do you think everyone that supports Narendra Modi and millions that voted for him are low IQ?

If not, why did you not call out Sweep Shot's post as Dumb? If anything, you justified it more by bringing Rishi Sunak.

Sure...
 
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aboveandbeyond said:
Such a bufoonish comment. With your logic, the Pathetic and imported Government of Pakistan you voted for was begging to be part Of $#!tanyahu Trumps, Blairs so called Peace force!
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Imran Khan who some people claim would have “saved Iran” actually celebrated the death of Qasem Soleimani, and many of his supporters in Afghanistan and KPK did the same at the time.

Imran Khan himself did not even issue a condolence message then. But when Donald Trump was shot at, a condolence message came within minutes.

Even now, there has been no condolence message from the PTI camp for the Supreme Leader of Iran.

So people should remember these facts before pretending that PTI or Imran Khan are some great defenders of Iran
 
Major said:
If they are, where am i complaining?

Its juts that uk people are not looking at themselves and wana discuss india.
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So if a person isn't complaining then it makes it alright to pay for the war with your tax?

Isn't democracy is all about protesting for what is right?

This war is probably the most unpopular in the recent times from the get go, only 20% of USA population is supporting it, except Israel and a particular group from India, this war has no support.
 
Robbie said:
Iranian ship was safe in Indian waters.. US would not dare to do any mischief in Indian waters... As they entered the Sri Lankan waters, US sabmarine moved in. Even then if Sri Lankan authorities had given them permission to dock earlier, nothing would have happened to them.
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Modi knew that ship was going to be attacked. He simply let the U.S. hit it once it was outside Indian waters so he wouldn’t get the blame for it.

That’s also why Sri Lanka had to go out of its way to help the Iranians, while India refused to provide any kind of assistance.

And by the way, where is the condolence message from Modi or the Indian government?
 
Major said:
If they are, where am i complaining?

Its juts that uk people are not looking at themselves and wana discuss india.
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I literally created a thread about British Pakistanis. Why don't you look it up and I'll meet you there.
 
Rajdeep said:
Never said by someone when they cannot refute the points being raised.

Forget Israel, pls answer the first part. Do you think everyone that supports Narendra Modi and millions that voted for him are low IQ?

If not, why did you not call out Sweep Shot's post as Dumb? If anything, you justified it more by bringing Rishi Sunak.

But now calling Major's post as dumb simply because he touched a raw nerve.

Sure...
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So you want me to discuss another poster's supposition about low IQ Indians and because I never challenged it, you want me to give an opinion on this off topic personal opinion?

When Major wants to discuss India taking sides with the israel against Iran I will happily engage him right here. Same goes for you.
 
emranabbas said:
Imran Khan who some people claim would have “saved Iran” actually celebrated the death of Qasem Soleimani, and many of his supporters in Afghanistan and KPK did the same at the time.

Imran Khan himself did not even issue a condolence message then. But when Donald Trump was shot at, a condolence message came within minutes.

Even now, there has been no condolence message from the PTI camp for the Supreme Leader of Iran.

So people should remember these facts before pretending that PTI or Imran Khan are some great defenders of Iran
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Stop derailing the thread.
 
Robbie said:
Iranian ship was safe in Indian waters.. US would not dare to do any mischief in Indian waters... As they entered the Sri Lankan waters, US sabmarine moved in. Even then if Sri Lankan authorities had given them permission to dock earlier, nothing would have happened to them.
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These were international waters, and Sri Lanka raised a complaint about the attack. India has stayed silent despite the fact that this ship was attending an event in India and returning from that.
 
emranabbas said:
Modi knew that ship was going to be attacked.
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Really? how do you know that? If Modi knew, the so did Iran. Why did the Iranian ship leave the Indian port. why not stay put?
emranabbas said:
He simply let the U.S. hit it
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Sure. Becos, If he didn't "let US hit it" US wouldn't have the capability to do what they want in international waters
emranabbas said:
once it was outside Indian waters so he wouldn’t get the blame for it.

That’s also why Sri Lanka had to go out of its way to help the Iranians, while India refused to provide any kind of assistance.
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You mean India had to trail a foreign military vessel international waters for no good reason? awsome.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
These were international waters, and Sri Lanka raised a complaint about the attack. India has stayed silent despite the fact that this ship was attending an event in India and returning from that.
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India have likely stayed silent because:

1. It's a heavyweight power the USA we're talking about, and the relationship is already see-sawing because of the tariffs and wildcard Trump in general.

2. India have likely concluded that it won't hurt them in the medium or long term and any current or future Iranian government will continue to supply oil at the price of the day.

3. Perhaps they did raise a protest with the US internally, but it was just for show.
 
HalBass9 said:
So if a person isn't complaining then it makes it alright to pay for the war with your tax?

Isn't democracy is all about protesting for what is right?

This war is probably the most unpopular in the recent times from the get go, only 20% of USA population is supporting it, except Israel and a particular group from India, this war has no support.
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i said where did i complain that pakistanis are on the right here.

The point of my.post was british pakistanis and muslims that choose to live their should not be pointing fingers at India, when their country is the main root cause of the issue.

Now i hope by their country, they take ownership of being British.
 
Major said:
i said where did i complain that pakistanis are on the right here.

The point of my.post was british pakistanis and muslims that choose to live their should not be pointing fingers at India, when their country is the main root cause of the issue.

Now i hope by their country, they take ownership of being British.
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You know the game by now. they swap Pak and UK hats based on the situation
 
Varun said:
India have likely stayed silent because:

1. It's a heavyweight power the USA we're talking about, and the relationship is already see-sawing because of the tariffs and wildcard Trump in general.

2. India have likely concluded that it won't hurt them in the medium or long term and any current or future Iranian government will continue to supply oil at the price of the day.

3. Perhaps they did raise a protest with the US internally, but it was just for show.
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India has no dog in this war, why should India be supporting iran?

Modi’s priority is India and that’s why he is elected as pm

Pravin sawhney and his magazine are considered to be a propaganda outlet in defence circles
 
Varun said:
India have likely stayed silent because:

1. It's a heavyweight power the USA we're talking about, and the relationship is already see-sawing because of the tariffs and wildcard Trump in general.

2. India have likely concluded that it won't hurt them in the medium or long term and any current or future Iranian government will continue to supply oil at the price of the day.

3. Perhaps they did raise a protest with the US internally, but it was just for show.
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India didn't stay silent though, Modi was in israel declaring israel as "De faardeland" while the drumbeats of war were building. Do you think Iranians are going to view this as being neutral?
 
India is friends with Israel. They won’t side with Iran.

Iran has very few friends. Maybe Pakistan and Russia. Even a lot of their own people don’t support the Iran regime.

Israel has powerful friends. And their people support this right wing regime, they voted him in.

Iran going towards try democracy will help them out massively and improve their economy and relations.

I know Britain was much at fault here. The nationalising of oil fiasco was unfortunate. Without that Iran probably would have a true democracy.
 
Major said:
i said where did i complain that pakistanis are on the right here.

The point of my.post was british pakistanis and muslims that choose to live their should not be pointing fingers at India, when their country is the main root cause of the issue.

Now i hope by their country, they take ownership of being British.
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But they are also pointing fingers at Britain.
 
ads101 said:
India is friends with Israel. They won’t side with Iran.

Iran has very few friends. Maybe Pakistan and Russia. Even a lot of their own people don’t support the Iran regime.

Israel has powerful friends. And their people support this right wing regime, they voted him in.

Iran going towards try democracy will help them out massively and improve their economy and relations.

I know Britain was much at fault here. The nationalising of oil fiasco was unfortunate. Without that Iran probably would have a true democracy.
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Iran and India have been working on a joint project at Chabahar Port to bypass Pakistan trade routes so I think you are wrong there.
 
Major said:
i said where did i complain that pakistanis are on the right here.

The point of my.post was british pakistanis and muslims that choose to live their should not be pointing fingers at India, when their country is the main root cause of the issue.

Now i hope by their country, they take ownership of being British.
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Yeah we as Britain created this situation. Should have allowed Iran to nationalise oil for fair price. Instead tried to get future profits. There’s a lot of blame on USA and Israel but us supported a democratic nation. They only intervened when Britain put tariffs and hurt Iran’s economy to the extent that USA were worried about collapse/communism.

Even the working out of oil ownership for Saudi Arabia was handled far better by the USA than UK did.

Britain mucked up the whole Israel and Palestine situation too, even though their intentions weren’t as selfish as the Iran situation.

USA as bad as they are has generally been better and supportive of democracy in most countries. And better than a few countries too currently which have dictator regimes and low on human rights. I’d much prefer USA as the main global power over China or Russia in their current states.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Iran and India have been working on a joint project at Chabahar Port to bypass Pakistan trade routes so I think you are wrong there.
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Compared to Pakistan, Iran is a friend to India lol. Pakistan is India’s main enemy unfortunately.

Israel has had India’s open support for ages. Trade or projects with Iran isn’t the same thing. I’m not sure I’ve seen India voice support for Iran’s regime. And with their own delicate situation with Muslim and Hindus tension I can’t see why they would.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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What about pakistanis like u paying tax which the Army uses to buy American weapons. U do know the "Major"American weapons manufacturers are Zionists
 
Finisher said:
What about pakistanis like u paying tax which the Army uses to buy American weapons. U do know the "Major"American weapons manufacturers are Zionists
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I think u dont understand what im saying.

A poster from UK is pointing fingers at Indian posters, while forgetting orginal mess was created by the UK.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
India didn't stay silent though, Modi was in israel declaring israel as "De faardeland" while the drumbeats of war were building. Do you think Iranians are going to view this as being neutral?
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Yep. They will still sell us and China oil. The only difference is China can pay for it in Remnibis while we can't pay in Rupees - but that is a debate for another thread.
 
Major said:
Muslims or pakistanis that live in England should be the last one talking about anything related to Israel, considering that you moved and pay taxes to a country that allowed zionism to flourish and cause palestine to lose its territory.
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Nah we will talk about this backstabbing Indian government to our hearts content.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
thediplomat.com

Modi Puts India Firmly in the Israel-US Camp

Modi’s strong support for Israel – and refusal to condemn the Israel-U.S. strikes on Iran, a long-time friend of India’s – have “diminished India’s stature in the eyes of the world.”
thediplomat.com
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I agree in a sense that both China and India have been shown the limits of their power as part of this conflict.

I admittedly don't want India to interfere but I would've hoped for at least a statement condemning the sinking of the Iranian ship. It would've only been symbolic but better than a comment in the Iranian consulate condolence register. Not being able to muster the guts for that is definitely a statement of subservience.

China managed to issue a statement or two but nothing more. I didn't imagine they would actually intervene but no commitment of aid, no sale of weapons, not even a call for a pointless emergency UN General assembly session.

Compare that to the US reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine which wasn't even a close US ally.
 
Red-Indian said:
I agree in a sense that both China and India have been shown the limits of their power as part of this conflict.

I admittedly don't want India to interfere but I would've hoped for at least a statement condemning the sinking of the Iranian ship. It would've only been symbolic but better than a comment in the Iranian consulate condolence register. Not being able to muster the guts for that is definitely a statement of subservience.

China managed to issue a statement or two but nothing more. I didn't imagine they would actually intervene but no commitment of aid, no sale of weapons, not even a call for a pointless emergency UN General assembly session.

Compare that to the US reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine which wasn't even a close US ally.
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Iran has been an important partner for India with joint projects ongoing. After travelling to israel to receive a gold star from Netenyahu, the least India could have done was condemned the sinking of the ship. China's leaders are not scuttling back and forth to dance in front of Bibi, that is a big difference.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Iran has been an important partner for India with joint projects ongoing. After travelling to israel to receive a gold star from Netenyahu, the least India could have done was condemned the sinking of the ship. China's leaders are not scuttling back and forth to dance in front of Bibi, that is a big difference.
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Yeah India's definitely drawn closer to Israel over the last few years. Not that the closeness has actually resulted in anything significant except some military equipment sales but Israel has been making an effort to build an alliance with India. They were probably the only country to openly support Indian airstrikes after Pahalgam.

India has been slower to show support but we did abstain against Israel in the UN General Assembly and were much more careful in our statements on Gaza - deploring the violence and calling for peace but not condemning Israel.

China is a different story. They're 15 years ahead of India in their development story and power projection but have chosen the path of utter acquiescence. They're not allies of Israel so could not be expected to support it but they openly called themselves Iran's allies but were not even willing to make symbolic gestures.
 
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