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20-20 came about in 2005 in England.

Batting scores have increased significantly possibly around 2013. We seen the huge scores in the 2015 CWC.

Before 20-20, scores of 300 or more did not feature significantly. Even 280 was very hard to chase down or put together.

I have to say it was more enjoyable and entertaining seeing teams struggle to chase down scores of 250.

What about you?
 
I really liked reverse swing in ODIs which has been pretty difficult to achieve for bowlers since the two new ball rules with each ball only being 25 overs old at the end of the innings.
 
"old cricket" gave equal opportunities to bowlers also, now the whole tamasha is in favor of batsmen.
 
ODI's were best until around 2014 times I guess.

Before this, ODI hundreds meant something. You would hear X scored an ODI ton and think wow. Nowadays, everyone scores hundreds. It's ruined the ODI format.
 
ODI cricket has become a slug-fest these days especially after the two-new ball rule.
 
Old cricket had a charm to it, even those who claim modern cricket is more attacking and played at a faster rate --- look back at the 90s and limited overs cricket, even if we are talking about watching attacking strokeplay from batsmen , are we really seeing better quality attacking batting now compared to the regular 100-run opening partnerships in first 15 overs in ODI cricket that that the likes of Jayasuriya / Kaluwithrana , or Saeed Anwar / Amir Sohail / Ijaz Ahmad , or Tendulkar/Ganguly , or Mark Waugh / Gilchrist / Ricky Ponting ??

Does anyone prefer modern T20 bash bash with no-bodies slogging sixes, over the quality of attacking batsmen that were on display back then?
 
New cricket..
It's not all about pitches as some make it look like, Current players have developed better skill set on playing limited overs game than old one as the game of today demands much more..
 
20-20 came about in 2005 in England.

Batting scores have increased significantly possibly around 2013. We seen the huge scores in the 2015 CWC.

Before 20-20, scores of 300 or more did not feature significantly. Even 280 was very hard to chase down or put together.

I have to say it was more enjoyable and entertaining seeing teams struggle to chase down scores of 250.

What about you?

I really liked reverse swing in ODIs which has been pretty difficult to achieve for bowlers since the two new ball rules with each ball only being 25 overs old at the end of the innings.

"old cricket" gave equal opportunities to bowlers also, now the whole tamasha is in favor of batsmen.

ODI's were best until around 2014 times I guess.

Before this, ODI hundreds meant something. You would hear X scored an ODI ton and think wow. Nowadays, everyone scores hundreds. It's ruined the ODI format.

I think the change was inevitable to keep the interest alive in the game but they went more towards commercializing it to make quick money rather than actually caring to about the delicate balance between the bat and the ball.

Number of overs were reduced to 20 per innings.

And with time, rules were hell bent in favor of the batsman.

Field restrictions
Power plays
Free-Hit
One bouncer per over etc

And I can live with all that, but what I really abhor is the small boundary line.

Did you notice, how in a tense soccer game, the stand still crowd right behind the goal post, jumps out of their seats when a goal is scored at a critical moment?

This is how crowd used to react when a boundary was scored in cricket. Fans would jump out of their seats and would dance in joy.
But these days, people yawn at sixes.

The commentators try their best to instill a fake excitement to cover a six. Even our good ole' Ramiz Raja; the ball will land a foot outside the rope in a sixty yard boundary, and he will go, "And Hafeez hits a MASSIVE six."

In my opinion, the boundary lines must be AT LEAST 80 meters.
This will separate boys from men. This will bring some sanity in the game, and this will bring more balance and interest in the game.

I mean, come'on; a miss-hit should be caught and not land out side the boundary for a six.

I notice that rules hardly changed in the American baseball in the last decade or two, but the interest in fans has not decreased by an iota.
The reason is, there is a fair balance between the ball and the bat.

The outcome of almost every pitch (delivery) has an intense level of uncertainty behind it. The entire game keeps you gripped.

On the other hand, those who wanted to commercialize cricket, did not know that you can't scare people with the same alligator over and over again.
T20 has now become somewhat boring. T10 is already in the mix.
How are they going to keep interest alive in the game? T5? T1?
 
The biggest difference is the number of bouncers bowled in limited overs and test matches- talking only about ODIs and Test match formats as they've been around for 50, 130 years respectively.


My propositions -
Increase the bouncer limits in these 2 formats of the game per over.
Increase the number of players in the outer circle by allowing 1 more fielder than at present.
Remove free hits for no-balls in limited overs (50-over) - an extra run+re-bowling is enough.
Put a ceiling on the bat weights of players - don't know if it is already there.
Toss - should be best of 3 tosses - to eliminate/nullify heavy tilting of the match-fate towards the winner (it sounds crazy, but.....)
 
Old cricket like many have said here. Reverse swing, dusra, 150+ kph bowlers.
 
Money has brought greed into the modern game and a lack of loyalty and appreciation of playing for your country.

Many players these days don't give a damn about playing for their country.
 
Money has brought greed into the modern game and a lack of loyalty and appreciation of playing for your country.

Many players these days don't give a damn about playing for their country.

Yes they don't but also there's simply too much useless cricket these days. Unnecessary and sporadic T20, ODI series, you rarely have tri series amongst the top teams anymore. I think cricket needs to be more structured for it to be competitive.
 
Old cricket can still be brought back by -

1. Dragging ropes to the maximum extent
2. Use of just 1 ball in ODI cricket instead of 2
3. Restricting bat sizes to not be thicker than a certain amount
 
By old if you mean Odi cricket of 70's,80's a big NO. Odi of those days were borefest. Golden era of Odi cricket started in 1990's especially after Sri Lanka won the WC. 1996-2003 was probably the most competitive era.
 
Old style cricket in ODIs but current style of cricket in tests. Don't want those 5 tests matches to end up 1-0.
 
Old style cricket in ODIs but current style of cricket in tests. Don't want those 5 tests matches to end up 1-0.

On a slow low pitch we still get old style matches. Sometimes like WC semi final we get low scoring affair. They thought having 4 fielders outside the circle from 10th to 40th would give some relief to bowlers. I don't even know how that will give. With 2 new balls slog overs start at 30th over instead of 40th over these days.
 
How many times have we seen that pitches where the par-score is 230-260 are such a nailbiters.

Definitely love to see balance between bat and ball.
 
Mindset is the key. The sixes they time today travel 90 meter.


If that's the case then by all means, the batsmen and ICC should not have any problem with the boundary line being pushed back to 80/85 meters minimum, no?

But you will quickly notice that not EVERY six hit is 90 meters.

There are way too may miss timed hits and top edges that also go for six because the boundary line is 65/70 meters. This is ridiculous!
A miss hit should be caught, and not award the batsman with six runs. What are the bowlers supposed to do in such situations? This is not even funny.

In these small boundary lines, even the fielders placed on the rope can't stop many shots from 4 because there isn't enough time and space to make the move.

And yes, the bat size also matters a lot.

The edge size should be reduced from 40 mm max to 35 mm max. Spine should be reduced from 60 mm max to 50 mm. And currently no cap on the weight, should be capped at 2 lbs and 10 oz, max.

Let them play in an 80 meter boundary, and it will separate boys from men.
 
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If that's the case then by all means, the batsmen and ICC should not have any problem with the boundary line being pushed back to 80/85 meters minimum, no?

But you will quickly notice that not EVERY six hit is 90 meters.

There are way too may miss timed hits and top edges that also go for six because the boundary line is 65/70 meters. This is ridiculous!
A miss hit should be caught, and not award the batsman with six runs. What are the bowlers supposed to do in such situations? This is not even funny.

In these small boundary lines, even the fielders placed on the rope can't stop many shots from 4 because there isn't enough time and space to make the move.

And yes, the bat size also matters a lot.

The edge size should be reduced from 40 mm max to 35 mm max. Spine should be reduced from 60 mm max to 50 mm. And currently no cap on the weight, should be capped at 2 lbs and 10 oz, max.

Let them play in an 80 meter boundary, and it will separate boys from men.

Even back in the 90s, 80s boundaries were not exactly 90 meter. Especially NZ. Very reason why Greatbatch was used for pinch hitting because of the shorter boundaries. It all depends on the ground you play. Some grounds are smaller, some are bigger. Last match in NZ when Rohit's six barely crossed the rope it was an 80 meter six. This is an overstated aspect. One thing in India though it was not lush green back in the days. So fielders cannot dive around there. Boundaries were easy to come by. Even back in the 80s and 90s batsmen did hit sixes. Even tailenders hit sixes. Only difference they didn't always show the intent. Guys who showed intent hit sixes. Kapil Dev hit 4 sixes in a row to avoid follow on with a no.11 batsman. Tendulkar 16 year old whacked Qadir for 4 sixes in a row. Miandad hooked Patterson for 3 sixes. Imran khan smashed Garner for 3 sixes in the 50th over. Imran was tuk tuking right till 50th over then he showed intent. It is all about attitude approach. Richards, Kapil Dev, Srikkanth were the only three guys who showed consistent inclination to hit big shots.
 
Even back in the 90s, 80s boundaries were not exactly 90 meter. Especially NZ. Very reason why Greatbatch was used for pinch hitting because of the shorter boundaries. It all depends on the ground you play. Some grounds are smaller, some are bigger. Last match in NZ when Rohit's six barely crossed the rope it was an 80 meter six. This is an overstated aspect. One thing in India though it was not lush green back in the days. So fielders cannot dive around there. Boundaries were easy to come by. Even back in the 80s and 90s batsmen did hit sixes. Even tailenders hit sixes. Only difference they didn't always show the intent. Guys who showed intent hit sixes. Kapil Dev hit 4 sixes in a row to avoid follow on with a no.11 batsman. Tendulkar 16 year old whacked Qadir for 4 sixes in a row. Miandad hooked Patterson for 3 sixes. Imran khan smashed Garner for 3 sixes in the 50th over. Imran was tuk tuking right till 50th over then he showed intent. It is all about attitude approach. Richards, Kapil Dev, Srikkanth were the only three guys who showed consistent inclination to hit big shots.

Ask yourself, or perhaps go back and watch the replays of all the references you provided, and then tell me how many of those sixes by Tendulkar, Miandad Imran Khan were actually miss hits or top edges that landed over the boundary line. Perhaps than you will get my point?

I am not against anyone hitting sixes.
Six runs should be provided to the batsman if the clears 80 meters. All good. Nothing wrong in that.

But Afridi's record being broken by Munro in a ground that had 60 meter boundaries, doesn't really tell the actual quality between the two innings.
Now, go back and check the sixes Afridi hit in his fastest hundred and compare it with Munro's innings.

Small boundaries have a MAJOR impact on the scorecard; a very basic point that you are having trouble to get a grasp of.
Larger boundaries test the batsman's skill set of hitting big. And that's what we want.
 
Ask yourself, or perhaps go back and watch the replays of all the references you provided, and then tell me how many of those sixes by Tendulkar, Miandad Imran Khan were actually miss hits or top edges that landed over the boundary line. Perhaps than you will get my point?

I am not against anyone hitting sixes.
Six runs should be provided to the batsman if the clears 80 meters. All good. Nothing wrong in that.

But Afridi's record being broken by Munro in a ground that had 60 meter boundaries, doesn't really tell the actual quality between the two innings.
Now, go back and check the sixes Afridi hit in his fastest hundred and compare it with Munro's innings.

Small boundaries have a MAJOR impact on the scorecard; a very basic point that you are having trouble to get a grasp of.
Larger boundaries test the batsman's skill set of hitting big. And that's what we want.


Most of the mishit sixes come from Windies. I don't have a stat. If you count most of them would come from West Indian players who has this raw power. You can change bat, boundary, bowler. But if you don't have timing you can clear any boundary with any bat. Example Rohit sharma. If you don't have time you can't clear even short boundary with moern bats. Example Shivam Dubey. Timing is something that never changed across the era. If your mistimed hit doesn't go for six it will go for a four at worst.
 
I remember around 2005 or 2006 where they had the 'super sub' rule.

So a team could accommodate 7 batsman and then substitute that for a bowler however this got scraped after.

The boundaries should be at least 70 metres to 80.

There should be no powerplay.

Shane Warne if correct me if I'm wrong said somewhere that in a 50 over game a bowler should be allowed to bowl as many overs as possible, I proposition one bowler can bowl at least 13 overs.

And one ball only.
 
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