#DiscoveringChampions: Which champions are PCB hoping to discover from the Champions Cup?

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As I see #DiscoveringChampions is the hashtag of PCB for the Champions One-Day Cup 2024, I'm intrigued by PCB's talent identification strategy. What specific skills are they looking to develop? Are they prioritizing power-hitters, spin-bowling all-rounders, or pace bowlers with precision? I'll be analyzing team compositions and selection criteria to uncover the blueprint for discovering Pakistan's future cricketing champions.
 
So far Kamran ghulam, Haider Ali, Mubashir Khan, Usman Khan, Hurraira(Hasn't performed but showed intent), Abdul Samad, and a few other youngsters have performed.

Their your domestic performers so back them
 
It's a hastily arranged tournament. Classic showcase of PCB gambling- throw darts at the wall and some will stick. When you don't have a system in place, these ad-hoc tournaments become the discovery machines.

Anyway, if it brings some fresh faces to the team, then so be it.
 
I see the same faces being paraded around as #DiscoveringChampions
 
Should have included some new players specifically the ones who performed in grade 2 cricket and national U19 league.
 
I believe the tournament is a valuable initiative. Fifty-over competitions have the advantage of developing players with skills that are transferable to both Test cricket and T20 formats. In contrast, T20 tournaments like the PSL primarily produce players suited only for the shorter format, which can potentially hinder a player's overall development if they specialize in T20 too early in their careers.

Therefore, regardless of discovering new talent, even existing players stand to benefit from playing more 50-over and four-day cricket. True cricketers emerge through competitive matches and quality coaching, and in that regard, this tournament is a positive step in the short term.

In the long term, it will be essential to popularize club cricket in Pakistan with regular weekend matches between clubs. Ideally, these matches should also be played in the 50-over format to help develop well-rounded players.
 
The main function of Champions One-Day Cup 2024 is supposed to be provision of a new crop of talented players for PCT that could spare us from humiliating defeats not only against minnow sides but also "big bullies".

So far it's been the old tried and tested lot that is gaining the prominence but as a true fan of Pakistan cricket and experts of this beautiful game who do you guys envisage as the future of Pakistan side. Especially bearing in my that CT 2025 is on home turf with a lot of pride on stake.

So please enlighten us all with the deserving XI uncapped players from Champions One-Day Cup 2024 that deserve to be in the national side.
 
1 Mohammad Huraira
2 Sahibzada Farhan
3 Kamran Ghulam
4 Usman Khan
5 Haseebullah Khan (Wk)
6 Abdul Sammad
7 Jahandad Khan
8 Mehran Mumtaz
9 Mohammad Ali
10 Akif Javed
11 Abrar Ahmed
12th man Faisal Akram
Reserve - Tayyab Tahir and Saim Ayub
 
It's disappointing to see Mahli Beardman already got selected for the Main Aus side and our pace triplets from U19 worldcup struggling to get even in to a domestic side , Beardman was comfortably slower than all our 3 pacers but has groomed well now as he already talking about hitting 150kph where as Ubaid Shah and Ali Raza not even getting a domestic game and M.Zeeshan made to sit out just after 1 game. Truly pathetic.
 
It's disappointing to see Mahli Beardman already got selected for the Main Aus side and our pace triplets from U19 worldcup struggling to get even in to a domestic side , Beardman was comfortably slower than all our 3 pacers but has groomed well now as he already talking about hitting 150kph where as Ubaid Shah and Ali Raza not even getting a domestic game and M.Zeeshan made to sit out just after 1 game. Truly pathetic.
Yeah, Bro. Mohammad Zeeshan was so hyped but he has looked very ordinary here. Also where is ali raza and also Obaid not getting a game.
 
Yeah, Bro. Mohammad Zeeshan was so hyped but he has looked very ordinary here. Also where is ali raza and also Obaid not getting a game.
Agreed Zeeshan doesn't look anything special but still he should be playing competitive domestic games as he is young and there is a chance he can develop in to a very good bowler and clearly Ali Raza and Ubaid should be playing each and every game as they are definitely more talented then some of the pacers on display.
 
This U19 batch actually had some fine 5/6 players like these 3 pacers and Riazullah ,Arafat Minhas and Shamyl Khan , they all should be playing this champions cup every game , this is how you develop new players.
 
Last U19 batch was definitely much poor but 7 of the players from that batch have become regulars like Mehran , Haseebullah , Abdul Wahid , Faisal Akram , Abdul Faseeh , Irfan Khan and Qasim Akram , and none of them looks like they can become a part of national team apart from Faisal Akram and Mehran ,PCB should look in to the talent over experience in selection matters.
 
Champion iftikhar chacha and parchi imam ul haq. They are to be discovered again.
You can add fulltoss Usama mir as well.
 
The only thing they're discovering is how bare the cupboard is talent-wise.

Kamran Ghulam deserves a chance but that was known beforehand too. Maybe Abdul Samad is getting a bit of limelight that wasn't there for him before.
 
The only thing they're discovering is how bare the cupboard is talent-wise.

Kamran Ghulam deserves a chance but that was known beforehand too. Maybe Abdul Samad is getting a bit of limelight that wasn't there for him before.
How can you discover talent when you don’t give chances to young players and keep selecting tried and tested domestic duds.
 
Selectors have no eye for talent otherwise how they can't they see that Arafat Minhas is 2x a better batter and bowler than Mubasir Khan skill wise but just because Mubasir Khan has some FC experience behind him they are promoting him instead Arafaft.
 
And Mir Hamza , Amir Yameen , Ahmed Daniyal , Abbas Afridi and Amad Butt will never play ODI for Pak team so why not give young pacers a chance to perform and get improved? Truly bad selections.
 
How will the new players be discovered when they are not even selected. Azan Awais , Zeehsan dropped after 1 game. Guys like Ali raza who was imo the best bowler of the <19 tournament is missing. And they have selected 40 year old guys like Nauman Ali
 
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Selectors have no eye for talent otherwise how they can't they see that Arafat Minhas is 2x a better batter and bowler than Mubasir Khan skill wise but just because Mubasir Khan has some FC experience behind him they are promoting him instead Arafaft.
Mubasir is not only a bowler but his batting skills are also better than Arafat atm. I will take Mubasir over Arafat because we also need an off-spinner and Mubasir has that experience.
 
Mubasir is not only a bowler but his batting skills are also better than Arafat atm. I will take Mubasir over Arafat because we also need an off-spinner and Mubasir has that experience.
Arafat is 2X a batter than Mubasir if you have seen him play , Arafat has got a power game , can handle 140k pace with ease , can play bounce and knows how to build an innings and remain not out , haven't seen his game against spin to say anything but against pace he is much much better than Mubasir , bowling wise Arafat turns it more than Mubasir and is equally accurate.
 
How will the new players be discovered when they are not even selected. Azan Awais , Zeehsan dropped after 1 game. Guys like Ali raza who was imo the best bowler of the <19 tournament is missing. And they have selected 40 year old guys like Nauman Ali
Azan Awais is a very limited batter who can only play in the V and is not good against high pace and movement , but he knows how to grind and score tons that's his only strong point , recently in grade 2 cricket he ends up having average of 100.98 with a highest score of 184 not out.

Saud Shakeel 2.0 in the making.
 
Not discovering anyone is also a good outcome as it will force PCB to get younger players in the next tournaments.We need to remember that one tournament cant fix everything.This is actually a 3 year tournament as of now and if it goes for 3 years I am sure we will find 4-5 good players so now we just need to hope that they continue this for the next 3 years like they have planned and not scrap this after a couple of tournaments like usual.
 
I think PCB is hoping to discover some one like youngster Noman Ali or someone like Saim ayub or Abdullah who are already overhyped or someone like Shan Masood ( play 1 good knock and boom, he is in ODI team next)
 
1 Mohammad Huraira
2 Sahibzada Farhan
3 Kamran Ghulam
4 Usman Khan
5 Haseebullah Khan (Wk)
6 Abdul Sammad
7 Jahandad Khan
8 Mehran Mumtaz
9 Mohammad Ali
10 Akif Javed
11 Abrar Ahmed
12th man Faisal Akram
Reserve - Tayyab Tahir and Saim Ayub
I think Faisal Akram should be the 11th man, Tayyab Tahir can also be a good pick and Arafat Minhas should also have been part of this tournament.
 
Purely for the entertainment factor here is my playing XI for T20 format.

Saim Ayub
Haider Ali
Babar Azam
Usman Khan
M.Haris
Arafat Minhas
Abdul Samad
Jahandad khan
Shaheen
Naseem
Usman Tariq

Top 10 in the playing XI all can hit big shots and bowling is also looking fine.
 
Purely for the entertainment factor here is my playing XI for T20 format.

Saim Ayub
Haider Ali
Babar Azam
Usman Khan
M.Haris
Arafat Minhas
Abdul Samad
Jahandad khan
Shaheen
Naseem
Usman Tariq

Top 10 in the playing XI all can hit big shots and bowling is also looking fine.
Usman Tariq is not playing as well. Strange thing. Maybe due to his bowling action drama that happened in PSL But SAIM AYUB AGAIN???? Nope.
 
Usman Tariq is not playing as well. Strange thing. Maybe due to his bowling action drama that happened in PSL But SAIM AYUB AGAIN???? Nope.
No other hitter we have , may be try Shahwaiz Irfan , he is also highly talented but failed the fitness test for champions cup.
 
Purely for the entertainment factor here is my playing XI for T20 format.

Saim Ayub
Haider Ali
Babar Azam
Usman Khan
M.Haris
Arafat Minhas
Abdul Samad
Jahandad khan
Shaheen
Naseem
Usman Tariq

Top 10 in the playing XI all can hit big shots and bowling is also looking fine.
Give this team a clear instruction that each and every batter has to bat at 160+ S/R and no need to worry about your personal score or team score just go there and bat with extreme aggression even if you get all out for less than 80 runs. Trust me this mindset will result in they scoring 200+ more often then not.
 
None of the specialist spinners on display are good enough to be playing the national team in any format. That's the harsh reality and no wonder why Babar keeps persisting with Shadab , Nawaz for so long because the specialist spinners are on par with them in bowling or just marginally better which basically adds little to no value plus they can't bat at all.
 
It's disappointing to see Mahli Beardman already got selected for the Main Aus side and our pace triplets from U19 worldcup struggling to get even in to a domestic side , Beardman was comfortably slower than all our 3 pacers but has groomed well now as he already talking about hitting 150kph where as Ubaid Shah and Ali Raza not even getting a domestic game and M.Zeeshan made to sit out just after 1 game. Truly pathetic.

Was there a reason given for not including Ali Raza?

He was a real gem in that tournament and has all of the ingredients needed in a fast-bowling prospect.
 
There is nothing about this tournament that makes any sense. The CT is next year. Why are our players playing List A cricket right now? We just suffered the most embarrassing test series defeat in our history and have 5 tests coming in the next few months. Including 3 against England. What is the point of this tournament? If anything the players need to play more FC cricket to be at test match fitness which alot of the fast-bowlers were clearly not at in the last series.

PCB might just be the most brainless cricketing organization in the world. They are even starting to put SLC, WICB and BCB to shame.

Organizing a million domestic tournaments is not the solution. Quality of cricket is what matters and scheduling has to make sense too.
 
Ask the mentors.

Absolutely bizarre stuff from them.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Ali Raza has more potential than all of the trundlers on display right now despite being a kid. At worst, he should be around the mentors and pros learning his craft.
 
Absolutely bizarre stuff from them.

I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Ali Raza has more potential than all of the trundlers on display right now despite being a kid. At worst, he should be around the mentors and pros learning his craft.
May be the mentors doesn't see anything special in him? That's the only reason I am think of. Or the PCB is trying to find the best of the current experienced domestic lot so that they can say they are best of the best in Pak and if we still lose then it's not our fault we selected the best experienced performers.
 
There is nothing about this tournament that makes any sense. The CT is next year. Why are our players playing List A cricket right now? We just suffered the most embarrassing test series defeat in our history and have 5 tests coming in the next few months. Including 3 against England. What is the point of this tournament? If anything the players need to play more FC cricket to be at test match fitness which alot of the fast-bowlers were clearly not at in the last series.

PCB might just be the most brainless cricketing organization in the world. They are even starting to put SLC, WICB and BCB to shame.

Organizing a million domestic tournaments is not the solution. Quality of cricket is what matters and scheduling has to make sense too.
We have an odi series in Nov against australia as well. A bit of List A is needed to prepare.
 
Bilateral ODI series have never mattered less. Generally ODI cricket is meaningless outside ICC tournaments.
It'll matter when Australia whoops pakistan into next week, ct 2025 is an odi tournament and we play less odi then we do test until then, this tournament is for understanding who to select and who not to considering odi is also down under the water atm
 
It'll matter when Australia whoops pakistan into next week, ct 2025 is an odi tournament and we play less odi then we do test until then, this tournament is for understanding who to select and who not to considering odi is also down under the water atm
I don't think anyone will care. It's a meaningless bilateral ODI series. Most teams these days use them to try out to new players. Pakistan won a bunch of meaningless bilateral ODI series before the last World Cup. Didn't stop them from getting embarrassed at the World Cup.
 
I don't think anyone will care. It's a meaningless bilateral ODI series. Most teams these days use them to try out to new players. Pakistan won a bunch of meaningless bilateral ODI series before the last World Cup. Didn't stop them from getting embarrassed at the World Cup.
Well Australia are going full strength considering it's their home den and their playing full strength against England atm
 
May be the mentors doesn't see anything special in him? That's the only reason I am think of. Or the PCB is trying to find the best of the current experienced domestic lot so that they can say they are best of the best in Pak and if we still lose then it's not our fault we selected the best experienced performers.

Definitely seems like the latter.

Just the idea of hiring mentors (that talk a lot) and the older domestic players means they are keeping people quiet. If they unearth a gem or two then that's a bonus.

They were also supposed to have an U19 tournament that got canceled. That's another blow to the younger boys like Raza.
 
Well to be honest Waqar is a big fan of youngsta beauties and it’s impossible that had he spotted a prodigy or even above average U19 player and they are still hesitant in giving him a proper chance.
 
To be honest all the youngsta beauties whom are getting chances have failed terribly so far namely Huraira , Faisal Akram , Sufyan, Zeeshan , Arafat , Azan

May be the youngsta beauties are indeed lesser players than domestic oldies.
 
I like that guy Sirajuddin from LIONS. He is the one who impressed me so far.
 
We really need a shake up at U16 and U19 level , the current coaches just force youngsters to play in the V with 80s technique and they punish them with non selection if youngsters does something new or even if he wishes to be an allrounder as the coaches encourages/forces them to choose one aspect. Need to bring modern coaches who can change the mindset of young players to be innovative in their batting and also teach the bowlers on how to bowl to the batsmen who is playing unorthodox batting shots.
 
What’s encouraging about the Champions Cup is that none of the top 5 wicket-takers are currently mainstays in the national side.

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No new performer from this tournament picked for the England series. Now they’re allowing the senior players to rest out the remainder of the champions cup, further devaluing domestic cricket. Naqvi has been an absolute failure, no changes to anything this was all drama. What a sham.
 
I hope this guy is not a flash in the pan and any picks that you found impressive.
Let us hope.

I liked the left arm bowler Jahandad Khan. He is a good prospect. We have to wait and see how he develops from here.

In the batting, I have not seen anyone impressive, but I didn't watch enough matches too. I was hoping to see someone like Yasir Hameed or a lighter version of MoYo. Perhaps I was expecting too much. :) I also heard about Kamran Ghulam, but didn't watch him bat yet.
 
I haven’t seen anyone that is standing out on the batting front. Ghulam is a food player but he’s been on the circuit for a while, more of a compact player than a wristy batsman. The only real talent I see emerging is Ali Raza.
 
Hasnain really surprised me in this tournament... the way he is bowling i believe he is going to make a comeback into the team very soon.

Unless he bowls this way in international cricket AND does not called for chucking, we really cannot trust his performances here.
 
We have seen good performance from many players in this Champions Cup who can part of the Pakistan's Champions Trophy squad. The names that stand out to me are Kamran Ghulam, Usman Khan, Tayyab Tahir, Irfan Niazi, Mohammad Hasnain, and Jahandad Khan.
 
Let's see if any new faces from here could feature in Pakistan squad for the upcoming CT 2025
 
So what champion we have found in this Champions One-Day Cup? I think Ali Raza is a good find of this tournament and good form of Mohammad Hasnain and late arrival of Sajid Khan.
 
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