Do Australian cricketers or Cricket Australia overlook losing to India at home due to the massive profits of an Indian tour?

[Savak]

They are now going to lose three consecutive test series at home in the last 6 years. No Asian team can ever come close to this feat.

They have now selected the same bowling attack yet again ie Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins, Lyon who have now failed against India in their own conditions for three series in a row

When India won 2-1 in 2020/2021, Cricket Australia posted an advertisement in the media thanking the Indian team for touring Australia in the most difficult circumstances and that they wished them a safe journey home. Would they ever have responded like this in an Ashes defeat?

When the all time great Australian team lost the Ashes 2-1 in 2005 the likes of Mathew Hayden, Jason Gillespie, Kasprowicz, Damien Martyn got sacked when these players could have easily made the argument that their numerous past performances should have given them a pass for one bad series but here Cricket Australian selectors are still sticking with Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins, Lyon and a few other Australian players who have been part of the past test series defeats to India in Australia in the last 6 years.

I am just questioning whether the massive financial profits that an Indian tour brings to Australia, the commissions from IPL contracts that Cricket Australia earns from the IPL and the IPL contracts the Australian players earn in India has just made everyone completely immune to losing to India.

These Australian players need to be given a severe tongue lashing in the media and public which Pakistani players face after every defeat.

 

[uppercut]

whether they win or lose they make the same amount of money. So there is no special incentive to lose. And BTW how do you explain 36 Allout and 150 allout ? Don't be salty like some other sore losers.

 

[Devadwal]

Excuse after excuse .

ASHES is also earned them massive profit but why they haven't lose against England. ?

And india is not going to win this series .this is just 1st match so hold on!

Australia will win the series 3-1 .

 

[RexRex]

The incentive to perform against India is higher than against other teams because the IPL scouts will take notice..

 

[Savak]

Excuse after excuse .

ASHES is also earned them massive profit but why they haven't lose against England. ?

And india is not going to win this series .this is just 1st match so hold on!

Australia will win the series 3-1 .

Explain how

Can't see what Australia can really do. If they have a green top India has Bhumrah, Siraj, Shami and equally capable bench pacers to run through the Australian batsmen.

If they come up with a flat wicket India has the batters to post 500-600 runs and to grind down their bowlers and Bhumrah can easily take the wicket out of the equation.

If they opt for a spinning pitch, India has Ashwin, Jadeja, Washington and equally adept players of spin. Australian batters are very poor against spin and Lyon is their only credible spinner.

Can't really see how Australia has any chance against this Indian team which has all bases covered and brimming with complete confidence knowing that they permanently own the Aussies.

 

[Kianig89]

Cricket has evolved there is alot more than bilaterals now just like Wasim Akram becoming ambassador for betting app

 

[kron]

Explain how

Can't see what Australia can really do. If they have a green top India has Bhumrah, Siraj, Shami and equally capable bench pacers to run through the Australian batsmen.

If they come up with a flat wicket India has the batters to post 500-600 runs and to grind down their bowlers and Bhumrah can easily take the wicket out of the equation.

If they opt for a spinning pitch, India has Ashwin, Jadeja, Washington and equally adept players of spin. Australian batters are very poor against spin and Lyon is their only credible spinner.

Can't really see how Australia has any chance against this Indian team which has all bases covered and brimming with complete confidence knowing that they permanently own the Aussies.

India have rohit . He will ruin everything. He is also very dumb and has low iq.

And then kl has one good test per series quota.

Our bowling is good. Batting is still mediocre.

Maybe the new young gen can step up. Not sure.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

We are winning this test but not the series, aus will thrash us in Adelaide, we can't play swing

 

[uppercut]

Explain how

Can't see what Australia can really do. If they have a green top India has Bhumrah, Siraj, Shami and equally capable bench pacers to run through the Australian batsmen.

If they come up with a flat wicket India has the batters to post 500-600 runs and to grind down their bowlers and Bhumrah can easily take the wicket out of the equation.

If they opt for a spinning pitch, India has Ashwin, Jadeja, Washington and equally adept players of spin. Australian batters are very poor against spin and Lyon is their only credible spinner.

Can't really see how Australia has any chance against this Indian team which has all bases covered and brimming with complete confidence knowing that they permanently own the Aussies.

Its not that straight forward. Aus are a super hard team to beat at home and Indian batting has some cracks too which were masked due to lottery pitch that flattened out .. Wait and watch... its a very long grueling series so therefore very unlikely that Bumrah Will play all tests.

 

[Buffet]

Eng was up 1-0 after first test in Pakistan and India, lost the series.
Aus was up agasint indian 1-0 after first test, lost the series.

It's a very long test series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Who are the other players that are waiting there? Boland, Jhye Richardson are a rung below. Also Hazlewood bowled exceptionally well. Also Starc for once in his life bowled well against India. Last 2 tours Starc was a major flop.Cummins is the only one who didn't meet the standard he set.

 

[Buffet]

They are now going to lose three consecutive test series at home in the last 6 years. No Asian team can ever come close to this feat.

They have now selected the same bowling attack yet again ie Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins, Lyon who have now failed against India in their own conditions for three series in a row

Currently,

2nd, 4th, 7th and 11th rank bowlers in test cricket. The best Aus attack.


They did not fail agaisnt India at home. Just because Aus batsmen are not able to bat well against India, hardly means that bowlers have failed. Some one like Warner, who always scored big at home grounds, was not able to score runs at home against India attack. You can't balme Aus bowlers.

In this test itself, India was out for 150 runs and then Aus batting lasted 20 odd overs. No rest for bowlers.


It's only first test. It's a long series. Aus bowlers actually kept the series becoming one sided last two times.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Currently,

2nd, 4th, 7th and 11th rank bowlers in test cricket. The best Aus attack.


They did not fail agaisnt India at home. Just because Aus batsmen are not able to bat well against India, hardly means that bowlers have failed. Some one like Warner, who always scored big at home grounds, was not able to score runs at home against India attack. You can't balme Aus bowlers.

In this test itself, India was out for 150 runs and then Aus batting lasted 20 odd overs. No rest for bowlers.


It's only first test. It's a long series. Aus bowlers actually kept the series becoming one sided last two times.

Yup they have 358 wickets 263 wickets, 259 wickets, 530 wickets. This is an All time great Australian attack if you consider the whole unit. They have won 6 out of last 7 tests at home. India had depleted side. players with poor form. KL Rahul got picked at the last minute who averages 21 in Australia. India had more negatives than Australia. Just that India elevates their game in Australia.

 

[Local.Dada]

They get paid a lot of money in IPl because they are top of the shelf professionals and excellent players.

If they are losing or not working hard on purpose for IPL money and putting on terrible performances every time, no professional business or corporate will pay them money.

That is how professionalism works.

Pak fumbles winnable matches against us in world cups and they still don’t get a single penny from IPL. How do you explain that?

Stop such juvenile arguments

 

[Savak]

Currently,

2nd, 4th, 7th and 11th rank bowlers in test cricket. The best Aus attack.


They did not fail agaisnt India at home. Just because Aus batsmen are not able to bat well against India, hardly means that bowlers have failed. Some one like Warner, who always scored big at home grounds, was not able to score runs at home against India attack. You can't balme Aus bowlers.

In this test itself, India was out for 150 runs and then Aus batting lasted 20 odd overs. No rest for bowlers.


It's only first test. It's a long series. Aus bowlers actually kept the series becoming one sided last two times.

These rankings are built off other teams apart from India. These bowlers don't have it against India, they are tried and tested failures against India. Mentally they give up against the Indian batting unit. The last 3 series they have played against India in Australia explains everything.

Time to put some fresh new bowlers in against India. These bowlers can return against other teams but not India.

 

[jnaveen1980]

They get paid a lot of money in IPl because they are top of the shelf professionals and excellent players.

If they are losing or not working hard on purpose for IPL money and putting on terrible performances every time, no professional business or corporate will pay them money.

That is how professionalism works.

Pak fumbles winnable matches against us in world cups and they still don’t get a single penny from IPL. How do you explain that?

Stop such juvenile arguments

Seriously insecure posts are occurring everywhere being unable to digest India's domination in Australia. Reeks with jealousy, excuses, stomach burns. Aussies whole heartedly every single one admired every single performance of Indians. This was always the case in Australia. HEer we have other fans make up excuses after excuses to dilute the win.

 

[jnaveen1980]

These rankings are built off other teams apart from India. These bowlers don't have it against India, they are tried and tested failures against India. Mentally they give up against the Indian batting unit. The last 3 series they have played against India in Australia explains everything.

Time to put some fresh new bowlers in against India. These bowlers can return against other teams but not India.

Cummins 25.34 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Hazlewood 22.40 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Starc 37.85 against India in the last 3 series including this one

Starc is the only failure and he was the 2nd best bowler in this match.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I don't know about the Australian team but I haven't seen Aussie media roll over like this.

Headlines in Hindi to welcome a touring side is complete phattu behavior.

Can you imagine Aussies of 20 years ago rolling out red carpet in this way?

Btw this is only first test. Still a long way to go in the series.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I don't know about the Australian team but I haven't seen Aussie media roll over like this.

Headlines in Hindi to welcome a touring side is complete phattu behavior.

Can you imagine Aussies of 20 years ago rolling out red carpet in this way?

Btw this is only first test. Still a long way to go in the series.

20 years ago as well India dominated the series in Australia. Steve waugh's team was struggling to save the test.

 

[Buffet]

These rankings are built off other teams apart from India. These bowlers don't have it against India, they are tried and tested failures against India. Mentally they give up against the Indian batting unit. The last 3 series they have played against India in Australia explains everything.

Time to put some fresh new bowlers in against India. These bowlers can return against other teams but not India.

Have you seen the actual performance of bowlers or you are just going by result to deduce that these bowlers have been TTF against India?

Except Starc, other pacers have done well against India. Lyon averages around 30 against India in the last 6 years which is same as his career average.

Starc has been countered easily by India, but then hot Johnson which had entire Eng batting line shaking and was in top form, couldn't do much against Indian batting line up. So I think one pacers not able to do well hardly makes entire bowling TTF. You are confusing team result with bowlers doing poorly.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Have you seen the actual performance of bowlers or you are just going by result to deduce that these bowlers have been TTF against India?

Except Starc, other pacers have done well against India. Lyon averages around 30 against India in the last 6 years which is same as his career average.

Starc has been countered easily by India, but then hot Johnson which had entire Eng batting line shaking and was in top form, couldn't do much against Indian batting line up. So I think one pacers not able to do well hardly makes entire bowling TTF. You are confusing team result with bowlers doing poorly.

Based on that TTF logic Pakistan should stop visiting AUstralia altogether. No matter which team they send they lose anyway.

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't know about the Australian team but I haven't seen Aussie media roll over like this.

Headlines in Hindi to welcome a touring side is complete phattu behavior.

Can you imagine Aussies of 20 years ago rolling out red carpet in this way?

Btw this is only first test. Still a long way to go in the series.

Yeah. It is odd.

Don't think India would roll out red carpet to Australia or any other team.

 

[Rajdeep]

So many excuse threads today

Own team losing against Zimbabwe and then have the gall to accuse other sides of intentionally underperforming.

Australia hurted 1.5 billions Indians and beat them in WC finals in front of their PM. If they are intentionally losing to India for profits, why would they upset us in grandest of the stages?

It is absolutely baffling the kind of threads popping up even from veteran posters like OP just bcoz the India tour of Australia is not going as per expectation by some.

 

[jnaveen1980]

So many excuse threads today

Own team losing against Zimbabwe and then have the gall to accuse other sides of intentionally underperforming.

Australia hurted 1.5 billions Indians and beat them in WC finals in front of their PM. If they are intentionally losing to India for profits, why would they upset us in grandest of the stages?

It is absolutely baffling the kind of threads popping up even from veteran posters like OP just bcoz the India tour of Australia is not going as per expectation by some.

Everyone wree acting like Australian born when Australia beat India lol Now suddenly they turned 180 degrees. This series is not even over. Even this test is not over. Already whining about it.

 

[Xoib]

This Australia bowling attack doesn’t scare India they have won two series against them when they were younger so it won’t bother bother now when most of them are north of 30 .

After last home BGT Australia should have replaced Lyon and one of Stac or Hazelwood they respect Cummins but don’t fear him . Australia needs couple of bowlers that India is genuinely scared off that has worked for NZl and South Africa when India travel there , India ends up scoring too many runs against this bowling attack this series can get ugly for Australia as Cummins looks below his best and Lyon might be officially done .

 

[Saurav]

I wish Pak touring helped Zim cricket the same way

 

[kron]

Cummins 25.34 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Hazlewood 22.40 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Starc 37.85 against India in the last 3 series including this one

Starc is the only failure and he was the 2nd best bowler in this match.

Too many people talk out of their rear end with no real knowledge about the sport at all. Absolute nonsense lmao

Btw india has always done well in aus and in SA. India up the intensity inthese 2 placed. Last time we drew vs SA. Unlucky to not win in 2018. In 2021 SA got extremely lucky as siraj who was fit at the time got injured and we bad a bad selection call.

In nz yes we haven't done well in a while. Need to improve there

Also in England we have won 3 series there

Pakistan have won wait for it 3 series in England as well
Loooool
All of England wins vs us was during weak amateur rubbish era post partition.

If you look at the records post 1970 it will look very different.

 

[RamLakhan]

No NZ players will feature in next IPL because they insulted the BCCI lords by whitewashing Indians in India, how dare they did that! This can't be excused... First of all how did they manage to fly back to their country after committing such a sin!

 

[RahulBose]

No NZ players will feature in next IPL because they insulted the BCCI lords by whitewashing Indians in India, how dare they did that! This can't be excused... First of all how did they manage to fly back to their country after committing such a sin!

Hail hail...

By the decree of his highness Jay Shah...

 

[kron]

No NZ players will feature in next IPL because they insulted the BCCI lords by whitewashing Indians in India, how dare they did that! This can't be excused... First of all how did they manage to fly back to their country after committing such a sin!

Well said bro

Lmao as if under performing will get great contracts. Especially if you under perform vs india.

Cause these guys who open such threads think IPL owners are dumb.

Perfect example. Cummins broke shamis hand in 2021, do these clowns think ipl owner won't buy him cause of that? Haha.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Aussie team sponsored by HCLTech. HCLTech is Indian Company. So Aussies lose to Indians.

 

[hoshiarpurexpress]

Aussies sucking up to Jaiswal now as Kohli will retire in a year or 2. Pakistanio ko koi nahi poochta ab..

 

[starpain]

Cummins 25.34 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Hazlewood 22.40 against India in the last 3 series including this one
Starc 37.85 against India in the last 3 series including this one

Starc is the only failure and he was the 2nd best bowler in this match.

Starc has also missed majority of IPL seasons.

 

[Kroll]

Yes, no coincidence since the Aus players have been lining up their pockets due to the IPL and broadcasting money.

They have gone soft.

 

[JaDed]

Yes, no coincidence since the Aus players have been lining up their pockets due to the IPL and broadcasting money.

They have gone soft.

Why didn’t they go soft in 2008,2015 test and wc,2023 wc?
But if India wins anything they have gone soft?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Every indian win against aussies will have an asterix, the stain of a team backed by a powerful board securing easy wins against a superior team which is held back by a greedy board.

 

[Local.Dada]

Yes, no coincidence since the Aus players have been lining up their pockets due to the IPL and broadcasting money.

They have gone soft.

Based on this logic, I also think Pak couldn’t chase 120 vs India or let Kohli take away a won match or collapse in Ahemdabad because they want IPL money. Look at the body language despite losing tok, all happy and smiles with Indian players.

They have gone greedy.

 

[RexRex]

Every indian win against aussies will have an asterix, the stain of a team backed by a powerful board securing easy wins against a superior team which is held back by a greedy board.

Credit for Perth win goes to the foxy Jay Shah, he strategically placed the IPL auction in the midst of the pivotal first test. Aussies were dreaming of their upcoming pay packets and lost focus.

 

[Master Blaster]

Explain how

Can't see what Australia can really do. If they have a green top India has Bhumrah, Siraj, Shami and equally capable bench pacers to run through the Australian batsmen.

If they come up with a flat wicket India has the batters to post 500-600 runs and to grind down their bowlers and Bhumrah can easily take the wicket out of the equation.

If they opt for a spinning pitch, India has Ashwin, Jadeja, Washington and equally adept players of spin. Australian batters are very poor against spin and Lyon is their only credible spinner.

Can't really see how Australia has any chance against this Indian team which has all bases covered and brimming with complete confidence knowing that they permanently own the Aussies.

You forgot to add the most probable reason for Auss loss to India, the "massive financial profit" part in this post.

 

[kron]

Massive financial profit in making a close series. Then why smash India in 2023 wc final?

Why sledge and try to kill indian players in 2021. Do you know how mnay players got hurt lol?

Sit down bro. Pass me whatever you are smoking. Might even hallucinate.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Mitchell starc & his wife ALyssa Healy bought last november bought a 25 millon estate (16 million USD). He got what? 2 million? from the IPL.
He was already very very rich. These are pocket changes. He is not someone from Namebia, Bangladesh to go gaga over 150k from BPL, CPL, PSL et al.

Howzat! Cricket stars Alyssa Healy and Mitchell Starc buy luxury $25m estate

It’s the high-end deal of the year for a neighbourhood that has never managed a $20m+ sale and all before they’ve sold the house Jen Hawkins built.

www.smh.com.au

 

[sweep_shot]

It seems like SENA boards (minus ECB) have abandoned their principles/self-respect over some cheap bucks.

Only ECB has a bit of self-respect left.

 

[Varun]

It seems like SENA boards (minus ECB) have abandoned their principles/self-respect over some cheap bucks.

Only ECB has a bit of self-respect left.

Agreed. We need to spray some more crores into England test cricketers, and our 2-2 (5) series result in England will become 3-2 (5). Good enough.

 

[Hitman]

Agreed. We need to spray some more crores into England test cricketers, and our 2-2 (5) series result in England will become 3-2 (5). Good enough.

The only boards with self respect and principles are PCB and BCB.

 

[kron]

It seems like SENA boards (minus ECB) have abandoned their principles/self-respect over some cheap bucks.

Only ECB has a bit of self-respect left.

Whatever you are smoking, I want that. Would be nice to smoke a blunt.

 

[sweep_shot]

Whatever you are smoking, I want that. Would be nice to smoke a blunt.

I do not drink, I do not smoke, and I do not do drugs.

I am straightedge like CM Punk.