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Do you think saifullah bangash is future prospect and backup to sarfaraz or mohammad rizwan, bismillah and rehan afridi are better ones.
 
I think if sarfaraz continues to show poor wicket keeping then we have to look for other options like saifullah bangash, mohammad rizwan, rehan afridi and bismillah khan because they are equally good with bat and better keepers than sarfaraz.
 
Has anyone seen Rehan Afridi keep wickets? his batting average is good not sure how his keeping is. Muhammad Rizwan is about average, he needs alot of work to improve his keeping which he can do with time.
 
saifullah has a good start to his FC career, if he can continue to perform this season he should try and move to Golden league and then give some performances to catch selector's attention. Good to see a couple of potential wicket keepers who can bat as well.
 
There seems to be a lot of talent coming from that area, I think Imran Khan said something like this once upon a time
 
We are weaping for wicketkeepers, suddenly we have 5. Sarfaraz, bismillah, rehan , saifullah and rizwan.
 
PAK's best WK with gloves is Julkarnine, without much doubt. & I saw a guy few years back Jamal Anwar with very good technique. But Jamal is probably at par with AAkmal with bat & Julkarnine should never be allowed to come close to National team (Criket isn't a game for insane).

Sarfraz is the best bet for long term WK as he is technically much better bat & has an intelligent head. However, one has to lash him regularly to improve his keeping, otherwise I see a KKakmal in making. 10 years back, KKakmal came with overall better promise than Sarfraz - then got the comfort that his batting is good enough to keep him in team & PAK as a whole doesn't bother much for keeping or fielding.
 
MMHS said:
PAK's best WK with gloves is Julkarnine, without much doubt. & I saw a guy few years back Jamal Anwar with very good technique. But Jamal is probably at par with AAkmal with bat & Julkarnine should never be allowed to come close to National team (Criket isn't a game for insane).

Sarfraz is the best bet for long term WK as he is technically much better bat & has an intelligent head. However, one has to lash him regularly to improve his keeping, otherwise I see a KKakmal in making. 10 years back, KKakmal came with overall better promise than Sarfraz - then got the comfort that his batting is good enough to keep him in team & PAK as a whole doesn't bother much for keeping or fielding.
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Who's that?
 
I actually think Adnan is the best keeper of the lot. Haven't seen Umar drop any catches but he can't keep fully.
 
Lol that's a funny way to spell Zulqarnain [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION]
 
Adnan is the most natural WK in Pakistan and is physically gifted for the role. The perfect height and is naturally very quick and agile.

Yes he dropped a few catches but so does every WK. Its unfortunate that he's missing out because based on his glovework, he deserves to play on merit. Unfortunately for him and for us, his batting is nothing compared to Sarfraz.
 
Sarfraz ahmed can make his place in the ODI team as a batsman alone , even if he goes south with his glovework he can gain his place as a full time batsman. But it would be best that he improved.
 
Rizwan's keeping isn't muh to talk about either , as MMHS said that Julkarnine was the best out of the lot with the gloves.

His innings of 88 showed that he had guts also but unfortunately for pakistan wasn't sane enough.
 
Sarfraz is the best keeper in pakistan atm


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He averages 41 and strike rate of almost 80 in fc. I wounder why mohammad hassan was in sind team instead, the guy averages 25.
 
Why was Saifullah Bangash dropped from the Karachi team?

This young guy seems a good wicket keper batsman and he played a good innings of 34 off 28 balls against Sialkot in the recent T20 cup. He was dropped after the next match in favour of Muhammad Waqas, who made scores of 2,14,5 and 24 in the tournament.
I am not saying that Waqas shouldn't have played. He is a good young player and should be given opportunities but there were other players in the Karachi team who could have made way for a talented player like Saifullah Bangash.

Saifullah is very young at this level and he hasn't been talked about a lot but at just 19 years of age, his FC stats are also good where he has scored 493 runs at an avg of 41 with a higest score of 148*.
 
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umer187 said:
This young guy seems a good wicket keper batsman and he played a good innings of 34 off 28 balls against Sialkot in the recent T20 cup. He was dropped after the next match in favour of Muhammad Waqas, who made scores of 2,14,5 and 24 in the tournament.
I am not saying that Waqas shouldn't have played. He is a good young player and should be given opportunities but there were other players in the Karachi team who could have made way for a talented player like Saifullah Bangash.

Saifullah is very young at this level and he hasn't been talked about a lot but at just 19 years of age, his FC stats are also good where he has scored 493 runs at an avg of 41 with a higest score of 148*.
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Tremendous Post . Very well spotted .
 
umer187 said:
This young guy seems a good wicket keper batsman and he played a good innings of 34 off 28 balls against Sialkot in the recent T20 cup. He was dropped after the next match in favour of Muhammad Waqas, who made scores of 2,14,5 and 24 in the tournament.
I am not saying that Waqas shouldn't have played. He is a good young player and should be given opportunities but there were other players in the Karachi team who could have made way for a talented player like Saifullah Bangash.

Saifullah is very young at this level and he hasn't been talked about a lot but at just 19 years of age, his FC stats are also good where he has scored 493 runs at an avg of 41 with a higest score of 148*.
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Same similar mindset . Sick minded approach of senior senior .

Play the player on merit . On ability. No way waqas is better than saifullah bangash . They guy has been pulling heaps of runs since under 17 levels . Scoring continuously in last 4 years . Mind you . It was his first FC season. And departmental cricket straight away .

Dropping on 34 of 28 in your debut T20 is unjust attitude, lack of justice .

Similarly what is faisal Iqbal doing in a T20 team ? And why he did not send Saud shakeel to bat in last 2 t20 games ? Was he selected as specialist fielder ?

Sarmad bhatti not batting for islamabad was a mystery too . He is a batsman and not been sent to bat rather asked to bowl which he left 2 years back . Got hammered and dropped from team .

Than Aamer Yamin not given batting oppurtunity in top 7 .

Players insecurities . They don't want others to shine . Look at sohail tanveer and his team selection as well as captaincy . He did not give one game to Raneez who is 3 times better bowler than sohail and look sohail is again in pakistan team .

Pakistan Cricket . Nobody will be held accountable for these things as here it's a right , authority and previlage to do these things .
 
No reason.

I hate it when this happens, he'll probably be a lost name for quite some time now unfortunately.
 
He was rightly dropped IMO. Should not have played ahead of Waqas initially. He got 2 games if I'm not wrong. He performed against Sialkot somehow. Waqas did pretty well last time with Dolphins and Zebra. Don't know why wasn't he played ahead of Bangash initially.
 
sunnykhan said:
He was rightly dropped IMO. Should not have played ahead of Waqas initially. He got 2 games if I'm not wrong. He performed against Sialkot somehow. Waqas did pretty well last time with Dolphins and Zebra. Don't know why wasn't he played ahead of Bangash initially.
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Saifullah piled on quite some runs in his first FC season

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He didn't impress me at the U19 WC, but quite surprisingly was doing well in the domestic circuit. (Did well in FC's and then had good outings in this tourney too) so it was quite weird to drop him.
 
umer187 said:
Saifullah piled on quite some runs in his first FC season

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I know about his performance last season and I know him personally as well. In fact, never met Waqas. There's a difference in 4 day and T20 cricket. He should not have played ahead of Waqas who is better than him in T20s. Identify players for the right format.
 
sunnykhan said:
He was rightly dropped IMO. Should not have played ahead of Waqas initially. He got 2 games if I'm not wrong. He performed against Sialkot somehow. Waqas did pretty well last time with Dolphins and Zebra. Don't know why wasn't he played ahead of Bangash initially.
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Waqas is that leftie right?

Good batsman he is. Finished quite a few chases well IIRC.
 
umer187 said:
He would have done better than many other players. Read the OP carefully

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I did. Read my initial post carefully. He should not have played ahead of Waqas. Even though Waqas failed, he was more experienced than Bangash plus a better T20 bastman too. Waqas played really well previously with Dolphins and Zebras. Ask anyone who plays club or regional cricket from Karachi. Most will rate Waqas ahead of Bangash as a T20 batsman.

Also let me know who else he could have replaced in the playing XI?
 
So

Surprise package for world T20 we were saying Nauman Anwar? Rafattullah? Imran khan junior?

Well I think Rafattullah and Imran khan will be dropped.

Rizwan and sarfraz ? Both have poor average and poor strike rate in T20i

So you never know one or both of them being dropped and Saifullah Bangash getting selected as surprise package.

Also if Rizwan and sarfraz both get dropped than you can select naveed yasin in the middle order.

I get a feeling that sarfraz will be dropped next game and if Rizwan performs with bat than sarfraz won't make the T20 squad for world T20 and if Rizwan fails and Saifullah Bangash scores against England lions than both sarfraz and Rizwan may get dropped.

So Onus is on Rizwan to score 35, 40 plus tommorow otherwise both keeper's will be out.
 
MMHS said:
PAK's best WK with gloves is Julkarnine, without much doubt. & I saw a guy few years back Jamal Anwar with very good technique. But Jamal is probably at par with AAkmal with bat & Julkarnine should never be allowed to come close to National team (Criket isn't a game for insane).

Sarfraz is the best bet for long term WK as he is technically much better bat & has an intelligent head. However, one has to lash him regularly to improve his keeping, otherwise I see a KKakmal in making. 10 years back, KKakmal came with overall better promise than Sarfraz - then got the comfort that his batting is good enough to keep him in team & PAK as a whole doesn't bother much for keeping or fielding.
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There in no Julkarnine in Pakistan's domestic cricket, never was.
 
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From nowhere now he has golden chance.

5 T20i matches against England lions if I am not wrong and he will have chance to press for a call up to the national squad.

Golden opportunity at the age of 20.

With both Rizwan and sarfraz struggling with not just batting strike rates but also averages in international T20 cricket massively New Boy has golden chance and timely chance to impress the selectors.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
[MENTION=134359]Cricket lover 27[/MENTION]

From nowhere now he has golden chance.

5 T20i matches against England lions if I am not wrong and he will have chance to press for a call up to the national squad.

Golden opportunity at the age of 20.

With both Rizwan and sarfraz struggling with not just batting strike rates but also averages in international T20 cricket massively New Boy has golden chance and timely chance to impress the selectors.
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Tbh I am sick with this chopping and changing every other match and so far it has yielded negligible results just Stick with Rizwan or Sarfaraz who ever the management deems to be fit and play them for a couple of games. This merry go round of Rizwan and Sarfaraz will not do any good for the team nor will the bringing of another 3rd keeper. The only thing they will do will play for themselves.

The worst thing this management does is that if Hafeez fails it's ok he can continue but if Rizwan a youngster fails he should be benched In my honest opinion Rizwan should not have been benched today. If you are going to chop and change on match by match performance then our team will never be settled.

Bottomline either stick with Rizwan or Sarfaraz and play them in all the games. If after a large sample size they dont perform then dropping them is justified otherwise no.

Fans need to be a bit patient as well select a core group of players and stick with them results will eventually come.
 
Cricket lover 27 said:
Tbh I am sick with this chopping and changing every other match and so far it has yielded negligible results just Stick with Rizwan or Sarfaraz who ever the management deems to be fit and play them for a couple of games. This merry go round of Rizwan and Sarfaraz will not do any good for the team nor will the bringing of another 3rd keeper. The only thing they will do will play for themselves.

The worst thing this management does is that if Hafeez fails it's ok he can continue but if Rizwan a youngster fails he should be benched In my honest opinion Rizwan should not have been benched today. If you are going to chop and change on match by match performance then our team will never be settled.

Bottomline either stick with Rizwan or Sarfaraz and play them in all the games. If after a large sample size they dont perform then dropping them is justified otherwise no.

Fans need to be a bit patient as well select a core group of players and stick with them results will eventually come.
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Rizwan will get the next match in place of sarfraz and it will be his last chance.

Hafeez wasn't dropped because he has 7 T20i fifties and his average is 23 and strike rate is 115. Where as Rizwan averages 19 with strike rate of 95.

When two players fail team loses and team management feels than fit again malik should be played than you pick the player with better record and drop the other. That is why Rizwan got dropped. Now sarfraz has failed in 2 games so Rizwan will get a chance.
 
TalentSpotterPk said:
Rizwan will get the next match in place of sarfraz and it will be his last chance.

Hafeez wasn't dropped because he has 7 T20i fifties and his average is 23 and strike rate is 115. Where as Rizwan averages 19 with strike rate of 95.

When two players fail team loses and team management feels than fit again malik should be played than you pick the player with better record and drop the other. That is why Rizwan got dropped. Now sarfraz has failed in 2 games so Rizwan will get a chance.
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This is the exact mentality that is wrong just keep the same team we lost just by 3 runs today if we keep replacing players match by match then we will never have a settled side just once and for all pick one of them and give him some games straight without the fear of losing place.

Have these changes resulted in our winning a big No. Just pick a core group of players play them in the exact same batting position for 10 games straight.
 
Professor said:
Honest question why do you some time spell Zafar as Jafar and Zulqarain as Julqarain?
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Proper noun is spelled differently in different countries, particularly Muslim names. I am sure you 'll hardly see Hossain, Hosen, Zakaria, Zahid, Kazi................... in Pakistan or middle-east.

Jafar is Bengali is spelled with soft "ja", rather than hard "ja", while Q is not used is proper nouns - it's Kazi/ Kader/Kamrul........

I try to write correct spellings, but sometimes.....
 
MMHS said:
Proper noun is spelled differently in different countries, particularly Muslim names. I am sure you 'll hardly see Hossain, Hosen, Zakaria, Zahid, Kazi................... in Pakistan or middle-east.

Jafar is Bengali is spelled with soft "ja", rather than hard "ja", while Q is not used is proper nouns - it's Kazi/ Kader/Kamrul........

I try to write correct spellings, but sometimes.....
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Interesting, thanks for the information
 
Saifullah Bangash - A wicketkeeper tailender?

0 runs in the tournament so far.

Comes in at no.10. (Was promoted up the order to #7,8 one game and got at on 0.)

Is he a throwback to the 70s and 80s?
 
"Karachi Lobby did it"

srsly speaking, have heard high praise for him by others here so maybe give him more time I guess? Not sure tbh.

We either have keepers who are excellent behind the stumps but garbage in front of it, or vice versa.
 
He bats at #7 for Sui Southern Gas Corporation and averages 32 in first class with 1 century and 5 fifties.
 
For me to judge his batting, i need him to atleast score a run. Cant even comment on his batting because he either doesnt come out to bat or gets out on ducks. Has Looked like a Pure tail ender so far but need to see more of him.
 
Slog said:
0 runs in the tournament so far.

Comes in at no.10. (Was promoted up the order to #7,8 one game and got at on 0.)

Is he a throwback to the 70s and 80s?
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Weakness in squad selection.

Karachi Kings desperately need Sohail Khan and Shahzaib but Malik is busy to promote Sialkot lads Usama Mir and Nauman with 0,0,14.
 
Suleiman said:
"Karachi Lobby did it"

srsly speaking, have heard high praise for him by others here so maybe give him more time I guess? Not sure tbh.

We either have keepers who are excellent behind the stumps but garbage in front of it, or vice versa.
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Who is the WK excellent behind?
 
just garbage can't even hold the bat.times have changed these kind of wicketkeepers do not survive nowadays.i am buffeled why they are not playing Mushy
 
Asif321 said:
mohammad salman
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Nothing special to be honest. I have seen him in WI, sometimes 2011, when he was officially almost 35.

The WK that I think is quite decent is Jamal Anwar, someone should bat along or behind Tanvir, tells lot about WK prospects of Pakistan. What happens is that, it's most neglected skill - whenever a WK is good with gloves, but not so with bat is not considered while whichever WK with good batting skills, once solidify his spot, fell sick to Kamran Akmal syndrome.

By the way, till 2005, Kamran was a better WK than Salman, whatever Rashid Latif might say on this.
 
Mediocre lost us the game yesterday ,a tie would have been atleast on if he got a single on the second last ball...should be dropped today Sohail Khan should come in , Vince or Simmons should sit out for Rahim

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MMHS said:
Nothing special to be honest. I have seen him in WI, sometimes 2011, when he was officially almost 35.

The WK that I think is quite decent is Jamal Anwar, someone should bat along or behind Tanvir, tells lot about WK prospects of Pakistan. What happens is that, it's most neglected skill - whenever a WK is good with gloves, but not so with bat is not considered while whichever WK with good batting skills, once solidify his spot, fell sick to Kamran Akmal syndrome.

By the way, till 2005, Kamran was a better WK than Salman, whatever Rashid Latif might say on this.
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Neither Jamal nor Salman are special ....The u 19 keeper the other day Umair Masood looked one hell of a talent can see him playing for Pak within a year or two

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MMHS said:
Nothing special to be honest. I have seen him in WI, sometimes 2011, when he was officially almost 35.

The WK that I think is quite decent is Jamal Anwar, someone should bat along or behind Tanvir, tells lot about WK prospects of Pakistan. What happens is that, it's most neglected skill - whenever a WK is good with gloves, but not so with bat is not considered while whichever WK with good batting skills, once solidify his spot, fell sick to Kamran Akmal syndrome.

By the way, till 2005, Kamran was a better WK than Salman, whatever Rashid Latif might say on this.
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Salman was a superb keeper. Did you not see him keep in the WI on those pitches? He was tremendous with gloves. Not best with the bat.
 
I don't think anyone from Karachi hyped him. It's an irony of this whole forum that they don't watches and make the players super stars.

There was a thread based on fbt20 talking about his batting skills as bangash was dropped for Muhammad waqas. I was certain he was right fully dropped but some brothers kept arguing.

Saifullah can only be a test specialist after some time. He's not a T20 player by any means.
 
sunnykhan said:
I don't think anyone from Karachi hyped him. It's an irony of this whole forum that they don't watches and make the players super stars.

There was a thread based on fbt20 talking about his batting skills as bangash was dropped for Muhammad waqas. I was certain he was right fully dropped but some brothers kept arguing.

Saifullah can only be a test specialist after some time. He's not a T20 player by any means.
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Even if we play a backup keeper in Tests, it's gonna be Rizwan so I cannot see Saifullah Bangash breaking into the test lineup at all; unless and until Sarfaraz gets injured or something and Rizwan goes into the most horrible slump of form in his career yet - Saifullah won't make it.

Heck even then i would probably take either Rehan Afridi or Umair Masood than this tailender :facepalm: seriously Karachi used to produce gun keepers and Sarfraz is a good addition to the list. Saifullah just is tailender who is somewhat decent behind the stumps. I bet even Adnan Akmal would out bat him on most occasions and that says a lot about Saifullah's batting credentials.
 
A throwback cricketer ! For those who listen to the Cricket Sadist Hour podcast they were covering this exact topic.

We take the "wicketkeeper-batsman" role for granted now. But believe it or not, there was a time when keepers used to bat even as low as 11. Our greatest ever specialist keeper, Wasim Bari, only had a Test batting avg of 15 but their job was solely to be reliable behind the stumps. Keepers of that era would regularly have averages in the teens.

The only team right now that could get away with selecting a pure keeper is England, because they bat so deep anyway and can afford to play a Chris Read type . Pakistan cannot however given how brittle the batting is anyway, so don't unfortunately see much of a future for this guy. Only way he can survive is to be really, really good at his keeping.
 
ahmedwaqas92 said:
Even if we play a backup keeper in Tests, it's gonna be Rizwan so I cannot see Saifullah Bangash breaking into the test lineup at all; unless and until Sarfaraz gets injured or something and Rizwan goes into the most horrible slump of form in his career yet - Saifullah won't make it.

Heck even then i would probably take either Rehan Afridi or Umair Masood than this tailender :facepalm: seriously Karachi used to produce gun keepers and Sarfraz is a good addition to the list. Saifullah just is tailender who is somewhat decent behind the stumps. I bet even Adnan Akmal would out bat him on most occasions and that says a lot about Saifullah's batting credentials.
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It's already mentioned in the post that he can be a test specialist after some time. No one is saying to consider him as a back up of Sarfraz.

Comparing a veteran like Adnan with Saifullah? :facepalm:.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was not easy for me to cope up with my studies along with cricket. But Alhamdulillah Allah blessed me with the ability to manage both altogether. I finally graduated as Masters in Public Administration from University of Karachi. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Graduated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Graduated</a> <a href="https://t.co/R8yZFeRZtn">pic.twitter.com/R8yZFeRZtn</a></p>— Saifullah Bangash (@BangashOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/BangashOfficial/status/1079316127296180224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hundred for Sindh vs Central Punjab in QEA 2nd XIs. Done well with the bat this season.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It was not easy for me to cope up with my studies along with cricket. But Alhamdulillah Allah blessed me with the ability to manage both altogether. I finally graduated as Masters in Public Administration from University of Karachi. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Graduated?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Graduated</a> <a href="https://t.co/R8yZFeRZtn">pic.twitter.com/R8yZFeRZtn</a></p>— Saifullah Bangash (@BangashOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/BangashOfficial/status/1079316127296180224?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 30, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Perhaps he will improve after completing his studies. He can concentrate more on cricket now and work harder. It is quite difficult to balance studies with high level cricket.
 
SNGPL's Saifullah Bangash scored a brilliant century and remained unbeaten on 103* on Day 1 of the seventh round of the President's Trophy 2025 against Ghani Glass.
 
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