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Does Pakistan have the best bowling attack in limited overs cricket currently?

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Given the way how our bowlers performed in the Champions Trophy after the first game, it seems we have one of the best bowling attacks in Limited over cricket currently, comprising of World Class bowlers like Mohammad Amir and Hasan Ali and supported by the likes of Junaid, Shadab, Imad , Rumman, Fahim. Do you think it is the best among all teams?
 
Pace + spin then yes. Pace wise Australia slightly superior but Hasan Ali is better taking wickets in middle overs.
 
India has scored over 320 in their group match against Pak and Pak returned the favor in the final.

Also, apart from Lankan game, Indian bowlers have been pretty consistent and did not let any team score over 250. Mostly shutting opponents for under 200 easily.

I say it is a tie between India and Pak. Australia is also great if Starc could stay free of injury.
 
Hazelwood+Starc combo is up there as one of the best fast bowling opening pairs in ODIs ever
 
India has scored over 320 in their group match against Pak and Pak returned the favor in the final.

Also, apart from Lankan game, Indian bowlers have been pretty consistent and did not let any team score over 250. Mostly shutting opponents for under 200 easily.

I say it is a tie between India and Pak. Australia is also great if Starc could stay free of injury.

Bangladesh too scored over 250 and in fact 3 of the 5 times India bowled in the Champions Trophy, they conceded more than 250. On the other hand Pakistan only conceded it once in all their games and that too in the first match.
 
Hazelwood+Starc combo is up there as one of the best fast bowling opening pairs in ODIs ever

Their bowling attack is heavily dependent on these 2 and with Starc not at his best, I don't think they have the best bowling attack in the world.
 
The problem with facing an attack like Pakistan is simply that there absolutely is no let up to the bowling attack. You have five bowlers all of whom are gunning for wickets from the word go and when your players have such an insane hunger of blowing the opposition away, even if two or one of them click in any given day - You'd essentially win the match.

Sky sports after the CT win did a complete analysis on why this bowling attack is as vicious as it is and all of them came to the same conclusion (A panel consisting of Ian Ward, Mike Atherthon, Nasser Hussain) that since all bowlers are looking for wickets no matter how minscule the target is Sarfraz as a captain will always stay in the game.

Of course such an ultra aggressive bowling approach could totally backfire on the odd day (1st CT game) but on the whole it seems quite a sound strategy and in sync with how Pakistan have historically played their cricket. Here's what we play first hand

Amir (World Freaking Class, Swing, Pace, Seam, Reverse, Yorkers, Bouncers, Bowling Dry ~ You name it)
Junaid (Death Over Specialist, County Regular, 3rd Highest Wkt Taker in CT, Reverse Swing, Yorkers)
Hassan (Best LOI pacer in the World; by some stretch, Reverse Swing, Yorkers, Pace)
Shadab (Best LOI Spinner in the World at the moment, 18 years, Gun Fielder, Proper Batsman as well)
Imad (#1 T20 ranked bowler, killer economy, Took care of Amla and AB in back to back deliveries, Shadab and him are probably neck and neck when it comes to crunch situations)

Our 4th Change is Hafeez who would literally walk into other LOI teams as a bowler alone, many times Sarfraz doesn't even asks him to bowl in a match :facepalm: And I haven't even gotten to Malik yet.... and just for to top it all off we don't even play Ruman in our first XI :)) :))

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Now compare and find me any other cricketing nation that has this much depth in their Limiter Overs bowling as what I've written above ~ you'd get the answer for the OP.
 
The problem with facing an attack like Pakistan is simply that there absolutely is no let up to the bowling attack. You have five bowlers all of whom are gunning for wickets from the word go and when your players have such an insane hunger of blowing the opposition away, even if two or one of them click in any given day - You'd essentially win the match.

Sky sports after the CT win did a complete analysis on why this bowling attack is as vicious as it is and all of them came to the same conclusion (A panel consisting of Ian Ward, Mike Atherthon, Nasser Hussain) that since all bowlers are looking for wickets no matter how minscule the target is Sarfraz as a captain will always stay in the game.

Of course such an ultra aggressive bowling approach could totally backfire on the odd day (1st CT game) but on the whole it seems quite a sound strategy and in sync with how Pakistan have historically played their cricket. Here's what we play first hand

Amir (World Freaking Class, Swing, Pace, Seam, Reverse, Yorkers, Bouncers, Bowling Dry ~ You name it)
Junaid (Death Over Specialist, County Regular, 3rd Highest Wkt Taker in CT, Reverse Swing, Yorkers)
Hassan (Best LOI pacer in the World; by some stretch, Reverse Swing, Yorkers, Pace)
Shadab (Best LOI Spinner in the World at the moment, 18 years, Gun Fielder, Proper Batsman as well)
Imad (#1 T20 ranked bowler, killer economy, Took care of Amla and AB in back to back deliveries, Shadab and him are probably neck and neck when it comes to crunch situations)

Our 4th Change is Hafeez who would literally walk into other LOI teams as a bowler alone, many times Sarfraz doesn't even asks him to bowl in a match :facepalm: And I haven't even gotten to Malik yet.... and just for to top it all off we don't even play Ruman in our first XI :)) :))

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Now compare and find me any other cricketing nation that has this much depth in their Limiter Overs bowling as what I've written above ~ you'd get the answer for the OP.

Good post.

For the sake of Pakistan cricket I hope they are consistent and have long successful careers for Pakistan.
 
The problem with facing an attack like Pakistan is simply that there absolutely is no let up to the bowling attack. You have five bowlers all of whom are gunning for wickets from the word go and when your players have such an insane hunger of blowing the opposition away, even if two or one of them click in any given day - You'd essentially win the match.

Sky sports after the CT win did a complete analysis on why this bowling attack is as vicious as it is and all of them came to the same conclusion (A panel consisting of Ian Ward, Mike Atherthon, Nasser Hussain) that since all bowlers are looking for wickets no matter how minscule the target is Sarfraz as a captain will always stay in the game.

Of course such an ultra aggressive bowling approach could totally backfire on the odd day (1st CT game) but on the whole it seems quite a sound strategy and in sync with how Pakistan have historically played their cricket. Here's what we play first hand

Amir (World Freaking Class, Swing, Pace, Seam, Reverse, Yorkers, Bouncers, Bowling Dry ~ You name it)
Junaid (Death Over Specialist, County Regular, 3rd Highest Wkt Taker in CT, Reverse Swing, Yorkers)
Hassan (Best LOI pacer in the World; by some stretch, Reverse Swing, Yorkers, Pace)
Shadab (Best LOI Spinner in the World at the moment, 18 years, Gun Fielder, Proper Batsman as well)
Imad (#1 T20 ranked bowler, killer economy, Took care of Amla and AB in back to back deliveries, Shadab and him are probably neck and neck when it comes to crunch situations)

Our 4th Change is Hafeez who would literally walk into other LOI teams as a bowler alone, many times Sarfraz doesn't even asks him to bowl in a match :facepalm: And I haven't even gotten to Malik yet.... and just for to top it all off we don't even play Ruman in our first XI :)) :))

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Now compare and find me any other cricketing nation that has this much depth in their Limiter Overs bowling as what I've written above ~ you'd get the answer for the OP.

Pakistan's bowling clicked most importantly as a unit during the CT. Let's be honest though, they have been mostly woeful in ODIs since 2011. A so called world class bowling attack wouldn't get tonked by hacks like Alex Hales and Jason Mohammed.

Amir barring his performances during the CT has been bang average with a few good spells.

How can Shadab be even considered the best LOI spinner in the world? What exactly has he achieved? He has a bowling average of 35 in ODIs and is more known for being smashed by Pandya in the final. In T20s so far he has only feasted on a poor West Indies team on some slow spin friendly wickets.

The real challenge from now would be to maintain this consistency for another 2 years leading into the 2019 World Cup as well.

The best bowling attack are still the Aussies based on overall results and consistency since winning the last world cup despite being weak on spin options.

Starc
Hazlewood
Cummins
Faulkner
Zampa
Maxwell / Head

And no I'm not even Indian or Australian.
 
Is there any bowling unit as good as the Pakistani one in world cricket?

Eversince that CT match1 disaster pakistan bowling unit has not conseded more than 250 against any opposition uptil now ,which makes it evident that they are one of the most lethal bowling unit currently ,is there any other bowling unit that can restrict he likes of India and England to even less than 250? which in the modern era is even below the par score
 
Pak have played 10 games since without conceding 250 5 against a depleted SL side. If we restrict the likes of Aus and England under 290 consistently then I will be the first one to say that our attack is the best in the world.
 
Pak have played 10 games since without conceding 250 5 against a depleted SL side. If we restrict the likes of Aus and England under 290 consistently then I will be the first one to say that our attack is the best in the world.
What about rhe champions trophy
 
What about rhe champions trophy
Remains to be seen whether that was all in the moment or a consistent change. I say we wait until after the NZ tour to judge our OD team, that tour will provide a lot of insight into where the team stands.
 
Looking at the resources, workload and the execution,at present it is undoubtedly the best bowling side in all 3 formats of cricket.
On the basis of the amount of workload alone one can adjudge it as the best attack which Pakistani bowlers have to carry due to a mediocre and poor batting lineup.
There are at least 3 bowlers who can replace the current bowling side, with many more waiting to get a chance. Mir Hamza can walk into any county side, Pakistani selectors are'nt giving him a chance. If the right reserves are selected Amir and Hassan will play every much and no one would underperform. There are 9 to 10 new bowl bowlers in Pakistan who can destroy any batting lineup.

New Zealand on paper and is no match for Pakistan bowling, its going to be tough tour for them.
 
It depends upon the condition. Currently we are playing four spinner (if Malik bowls). But things have been better since Hasan Ali started playing, before him we were lacking a wicket taking option in middle overs.
 
Inclusion of Faheem has really providef a completely new dimension to the attack. Pretty solid i must say. World class.
 
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