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Does Wasim Akram do enough for Pakistan cricket?

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We have always seen him coach teams in the IPL and right now he is coaching the young Sri Lankan bowlers. He has done talent hunts in Pakistan here and there but other than that, we haven't seen him show a lot of interest in Pakistan cricket and his involvement is little to none.

The counter argument to this is that PCB doesn't ask him for his help and that is a fair argument, but surely Wasim could show some initiative and ask PCB himself?
 
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Apart from the ocassional bowling camp (which in itself is useless) he hasn't done anything for Pakistan cricket.

He simply has no intention to join such an incompetent board, and I don't blame him.
 
He doesn't owe Pakistan cricket or PCB anything. He had a 20 year international career for Pakistan and that is a good enough contribution on his part. Anything above and beyond is totally his prerogative, you cannot force a man to work for you danday ki zor pe


Also I don't blame Wasim for staying far far away from an incompetent board run by people who's loyalty change based on who is showing Quaid ki tasweer.
 
He doesn't owe Pakistan cricket or PCB anything. He had a 20 year international career for Pakistan and that is a good enough contribution on his part. Anything above and beyond is totally his prerogative, you cannot force a man to work for you danday ki zor pe


Also I don't blame Wasim for staying far far away from an incompetent board run by people who's loyalty change based on who is showing Quaid ki tasweer.

You must be kidding if you think he does not owe anything to his country. He made millions and millions by playing for his country. There was no IPL at that time.

There is a big question on his integrity as a player but nothing ever happened to him. I do not like Waqar as a coach but he really tried to do something for Pakistan cricket. Imran Khan has done so much off the field. What is Wasim's contribution after retirement?
 
You must be kidding if you think he does not owe anything to his country. He made millions and millions by playing for his country. There was no IPL at that time.

There is a big question on his integrity as a player but nothing ever happened to him. I do not like Waqar as a coach but he really tried to do something for Pakistan cricket. Imran Khan has done so much off the field. What is Wasim's contribution after retirement?

Like I said you cannot force people to work for you danday ki zor pe. And quite hilarious that you disregard his 20 year career, where he won you countless matches (needless to say the performance in the only major world tournament you have won).

When somebody does charity you appreciate them you don't start deriding others for not doing the same charity. It's their life/money they can do whatever they want.

Yes, it would have been good if Wasim had been involved with Pakistan cricket, but I do not blame him for not doing so. Why does he have to contribute anything post retirement? Do you go back to your employer and start working for them after retirement at a nominal salary?
 
Like I said you cannot force people to work for you danday ki zor pe. And quite hilarious that you disregard his 20 year career, where he won you countless matches (needless to say the performance in the only major world tournament you have won).

When somebody does charity you appreciate them you don't start deriding others for not doing the same charity. It's their life/money they can do whatever they want.

Yes, it would have been good if Wasim had been involved with Pakistan cricket, but I do not blame him for not doing so. Why does he have to contribute anything post retirement? Do you go back to your employer and start working for them after retirement at a nominal salary?

There is a huge difference between working for a corporation and your country. You can't compare the two.
 
How many of you want him to play the role Miandad* played for years after retirement? Did IK do anything for cricket after retirement? Waqar got involved and it's fine, but every ATG player is not going to do the same. They will have their own priorities. Out of 4 ATG players produced by Pakistan, only one was actively involved.

* About Miandad , I only knew after reading PP that he was collecting salary for years as director without doing anything useful. If I am wrong then I stand corrected.
 
That's not his fault, its PCB's job to use and pay him for that. If IPL and SL board pay him for his work, nothing wrong with it.
 
He doesnt work for free you know, and no idiot would.

If PCB could fulfill its cheque then offcourse he would coach us
 
I don't care for the wording of the opening post.

It almost implies that Wasim has an obligation, when in fact he is just a professional sportsmen who's retired from the game.

If an ex-player wants to dedicate time to help his national side after he retires, then he can be complimented, but this should never be an expectation.
 
Can't blame him for post-retirement choices. He can do as he pleases.

If I was a cricketer and retired, I'd be relaxing on a beach somewhere far away.

The bowling camps aren't his problem. They pay him, so he goes and does his best in the 1-3 days given to him. Blame should go to the administrators for not convincing him to help long-term.
 
How many of you want him to play the role Miandad* played for years after retirement? Did IK do anything for cricket after retirement? Waqar got involved and it's fine, but every ATG player is not going to do the same. They will have their own priorities. Out of 4 ATG players produced by Pakistan, only one was actively involved.

* About Miandad , I only knew after reading PP that he was collecting salary for years as director without doing anything useful. If I am wrong then I stand corrected.

The difference between Wasim and Imran is that Wasim is still making money through cricket but Imran runs a cancer hospital, a university, and a political party. Imran's source of income was never cricket after his retirement.
 
You must be kidding if you think he does not owe anything to his country. He made millions and millions by playing for his country. There was no IPL at that time.

There is a big question on his integrity as a player but nothing ever happened to him. I do not like Waqar as a coach but he really tried to do something for Pakistan cricket. Imran Khan has done so much off the field. What is Wasim's contribution after retirement?

Why should Wasim contribute anything?

There is NO OBLIGATION after you retire, YOU MUST SERVE THE COUNTRY.

Is this like forced or something or written rule in the world somewhere? That whoever retires, he will try to help his country achieve success?

Wasim can do anything he wants, and we have no right to question his commitment or loyalties to Pakistan.

Infact, I may argue, he has done more for Pakistan, by giving 20 years to cricket, then some of the keyboard warriors, who expect him to continue shedding out his life for this country even after retiring many years ago.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I keep reading that Wasim Akram won't help Pakistan cricket or PCB. But whenever he's asked to help he gives his time for Pakistan cricket <a href="https://t.co/qKzC1H77Y4">pic.twitter.com/qKzC1H77Y4</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/804748411748712448">December 2, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
As a player he has done much though couldn't get WC as captain but after that I think he lacks patriotism to do anything for Pak cricket and pcb also to blame for his reluctance to do anything I think. I hope he will come forward to take some responsibility to make Pak team as one of the best ODI teams.
 
I've asked Wasim this a few times and he always gives me the same answer - whenever he can help Pakistan cricket, he does so. He has media commitments and coaching assignments so cannot commit to a full time role with PCB.
 
Posters who talk big here i wonder how many would be willing enough to work for their companies for free.

Its easy to live in a fantasy world, but in reality no one works for a lesser salary
 
He doesnt work for free you know, and no idiot would.

If PCB could fulfill its cheque then offcourse he would coach us

Actually he does plenty for free.

In England this year he was always chatting with Wahab, Amir and co. and offering advice to them. I guess he didn't bill the PCB for his time.
 
I've asked Wasim this a few times and he always gives me the same answer - whenever he can help Pakistan cricket, he does so. He has media commitments and coaching assignments so cannot commit to a full time role with PCB.

Which means, he has a price for his service; which is perfectly OK. Free service in the name of patriotism is a concept sold by politicians in our part of the world. Reality is, Mourinho & Sven Erickson categorically denied National Managers job, simply because Portuguese or Swedish FA can't pay them like what top clubs or English FA can pay. But, Erickson was quite happy to accept the Chinese offer as an "exciting project". It has nothing to do with pride or excitement of potential either - other wise Wengar will never find more exciting prospect than managing current French team; but Stan Kroenke is paying him US$10mn/year, after Tax - FFF won't do that.

However, Wasim is doing fine I think - he is not professional enough to do a National Manager's job, which takes 24/7 commitment. He is doing great to represent PAK in global media & in between short camps, motivational staffs for young players. Wasim Akram will be a horrible, horrible Coach - lots of his assets came to him naturally, then he found his own way to sharpen his tools within the professional system in Counties - he'll do an ugly job, if he is to manage a team with players no where near his own capability.
 
The difference between Wasim and Imran is that Wasim is still making money through cricket but Imran runs a cancer hospital, a university, and a political party. Imran's source of income was never cricket after his retirement.

What is IK's source of income? Did he come from a rich family?
 
Why should Wasim contribute anything?

There is NO OBLIGATION after you retire, YOU MUST SERVE THE COUNTRY.

Is this like forced or something or written rule in the world somewhere? That whoever retires, he will try to help his country achieve success?

Wasim can do anything he wants, and we have no right to question his commitment or loyalties to Pakistan.

Infact, I may argue, he has done more for Pakistan, by giving 20 years to cricket, then some of the keyboard warriors, who expect him to continue shedding out his life for this country even after retiring many years ago.

Obviously, none can be forced to work but the way he shows concerns about Pakistan cricket and does not do anything to improve it seems weird to me.
 
Posters who talk big here i wonder how many would be willing enough to work for their companies for free.

Its easy to live in a fantasy world, but in reality no one works for a lesser salary

False. Waqar just recently did. I don't like his coaching skills but he was really sincere in his efforts.
 
False. Waqar just recently did. I don't like his coaching skills but he was really sincere in his efforts.
if he did then that his big ehsaan for us.

His is not obliged to work for us for free
 
What is IK's source of income? Did he come from a rich family?

I don't know. Occasionally he makes some money through commentary but that's not even 10% of his income. However, his tax returns are available for anyone to review.
 
What has Wasim Akram done for Pakistan cricket post retirement?

First let me make one thing clear, I am a big fan of his.

But I can't think of anything that he has done to improve cricket in pakistan, maybe one or two camps and that's it.

When we ask him about this, he says the PCB never asked him or approached him for a job.

But in another interview, when anchor asked him why he does not become coach of the pakistani team, he says he does want to get involved with the PCB.

We've also heard that he asks for quite a lot of money as well...

Why aren't pakistani legends willing to help improve Pak cricket ?
 
Pakistani legends like legends from any other country are free do whatever is in their best interests.

They are not in anyway obligated to help improve Pakistani cricket
 
He's not under any obligation to give back to Pakistan cricket, his only responsibility post-retirement is to himself and his family and if he can get more money by going around commentating, doing after-dinner speeches or turning up to a training camp for an afternoon and pretending that he's making a big difference then that's fine. He doesn't owe the PCB anything.

But...that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise the guys like Waqar who came back and coached the team when they could have had a better paying, stress-free time by staying in the commentary box and away from the politics of Pakistan cricket.
 
Wasim Akram who didn't even get a retirement party from the PCB despite being one of the greatest to ever put on the Pakistan kit, doesn't wanna work with PCB. Who can blame him? PCB is a thankless organization where people who come in to actually do something and call out the PCB for being inept on the whole and try to change it are dragged through the mud (eg Younis Khan's captaincy, Waqar's coaching reign) and painted like mercenaries in the media through strategic PCB "leaks".

Whereas company men who stand by and let the political pawns put in by the existing government turn the PCB into personal playground for exercising power and status and generally turning a blind eye to developing cricket become lifetime employees who kept being recycled into a new role.

I wonder why a self sufficient man who is in demand around the world for his bowling expertise and media works doesn't wanna work with such an organization.
 
First let me make one thing clear, I am a big fan of his.

But I can't think of anything that he has done to improve cricket in pakistan, maybe one or two camps and that's it.

When we ask him about this, he says the PCB never asked him or approached him for a job.

But in another interview, when anchor asked him why he does not become coach of the pakistani team, he says he does want to get involved with the PCB.

We've also heard that he asks for quite a lot of money as well...

Why aren't pakistani legends willing to help improve Pak cricket ?

He only wants short work & that too for a very hefty price. Because of his Australian wife (he wants to spend time in Australia) & Money is much better in India. So does not want to miss out on it as well.
 
Wasim Akram has no obligation whatsoever to the PCB or its management

if they want to use him, they can go hire him- like they have hired Waqar Younis, Mustaq Ahmed, Azhar Mahmood...
 
I believe PCB do not want to give any major role to Wasim Akram.
Reason is somewhere related to Justice Qayyum Report.

Many believe it was pretty clear that Wasim was involved is match fixing, but since he was the country's biggest star back then, was eventually saved by PCB.
Now ignoring him for a role is an indirect life time punishment.
 
All the people who are saying he must do something for the country, only a selfless man can work for a country and blah blah. Give me a break. Some argue he made millions by playing for Pakistan, but what about billions PCB made because of him and other players playing for Pakistan. Working for a country or a company is not different, whether you are working for your country or a company, you still have to feed your family. Free service won't feed his family. So cut this BS that Wasim does not do enough for the country.

All these Indian players Anil Kumble, Rahul Dravid, Sourav Ganguly are getting paid handsomely to work for the Country. If people like Shehreyar Khan or Najam Shethi can get paid in millions (with no knowledge of cricket), Wasim Akram is worth 100x more than the other two sitting in PCB offices.
 
I believe PCB do not want to give any major role to Wasim Akram.
Reason is somewhere related to Justice Qayyum Report.

Many believe it was pretty clear that Wasim was involved is match fixing, but since he was the country's biggest star back then, was eventually saved by PCB.
Now ignoring him for a role is an indirect life time punishment.
They employed Mushtaq Ahmed and others who were named in the report as well.
 
Can't blame Wasim. The guy is diabetic for once, don't think he can handle the stress of a full time coaching job that also dealing with the PCB on a day to day basis. Secondly the guy started a new life with his second wife and has a baby daughter, his priorities are with them, it was one of the reasons he excused himself from the IPL.

Thirdly the guy has done and is doing what he can via the bowling camps and he is the Director of Cricket for Islamabad United.
 
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