"Don't think that you have conquered the world if you win one trophy" : Shahid Afridi

[MenInG]

Shahid Afridi speaking regarding the CT Triumph

"Miracles are remembered for a long time and in this case only a few people expected Pakistan to win"

"Not many people expected Pakistan to reach the semi-final but they came back with the Champions Trophy which we will remember for a long time"

"What is so nice is to see the people of Pakistan show their love to the winning team and that is also very memorable"

"The beauty of ICC tournaments is such that any team can win it but that does not hide the fact, as I have said before, that our domestic system needs to be fixed"

"Don't think that you have conquered the world if you win one trophy"

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

 

[MenInG]

Afridi has a good point - If we need to be consistent, then we need to have a good system in place

 

[Pete Rose]

it would be nice to select the folks that are putting up a show in the current system (as we did at CT), before looking to fix the system

 

[Chief Destroyer]

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

Getting rid of you was step one and the most necessary one.

 

[Kianig89]

The man who delayed the arrival of Yasir Shah

 

[TahirFan]

"Don't think that you have conquered the world if you win one trophy"

The Proteas have conquered the world and won no trophies

 

[Black Zero]

Getting rid of you was step one and the most necessary one.

Totally agree...

 

[akki]

The Proteas have conquered the world and won no trophies

The way they got whitewashed in india in test series. i dnt think so they have conquered it yet. ..

 

[Chief Destroyer]

"There are no replacements for me"

Yeah, no one can replace a match loser like you.

 

[Billy1999]

Shahid Bhai

I like the man and he's given a good piece of advice to the boys

 

[Markhor]

And what work are you doing to mend and fix the domestic system ?

 

[JibranAnsari]

Totally agree. The domestic system needs to be fixed.

 

[omcswe]

"There are no replacements for me"

Yeah, no one can replace a match loser like you.

talent nahi hai youngsters main ......

first tournament after he goes and the youngsters win it. must be in a difficult situation.

 

[JibranAnsari]

And what work are you doing to mend and fix the domestic system ?

What can he do? He does not hold any position in PCB , it is the responsibility of PCB board if governers to see how pakistani domestic cricket compares with the domestic cricket in other successful systems and make appropriate changes.

 

[PakSarZameen]

The man who delayed the arrival of Yasir Shah

Yeah man... this hack would have cost us another Champions trophy.

I mean look how well Yasir Shah performed in the champions trophy..... oh wait...

 

[TahirFan]

I think that Afridi is looking fir an IPL contract

 

[Adil_94]

fair comments. Pak often succeeds despite its structural flaws not because of the system

 

[wasimjunior]

Getting rid of you was step one and the most necessary one.

Chief destroyer by nature as well as name. Shabash

 

[Finisher]

The man who delayed the arrival of Yasir Shah

How? Afridi hasn't played test cricket for 7-8 years and yasir shah isn't odi material.

 

[member250]

No talent in Pakistan

 

[miandadrules]

I remember him saying the same thing after 2009 T20.


Oh wait, he was singing a different tune then.

First major 50 over tournament without him and we won it. He was right there is no talent to replace him.

 

[Khwaja]

Feel bad for 2007 WT20.... it was Shahid's trophy.... but we all know what happened

 

[miandadrules]

fair comments. Pak often succeeds despite its structural flaws not because of the system

If we had such a system, there would never of been Afridi.

So I agree with him for once.

 

[Syed1]

There was a time not too long ago when the two choices that Pakistan had for captaincy were Afridi and Misbah.

No wonder we were ranked at 8-9 after those two gentlemen were done 'saving' us.

 

[Abdullah719]

Feel bad for 2007 WT20.... it was Shahid's trophy.... but we all know what happened

Yes, we know.

 

[Savak]

Is Afridi jealous of Sarfaraz?

 

[Khwaja]

Yes, we know.

I'm talking about 19.2 overs

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Is Afridi jealous of Sarfaraz?

Most of our current cricketers seem to be jealous of Sarfraz and current team.
Havent seen any genuine praise by Pakistani ex-cricketers yet. Always was disappointing to see no prominent names came in defense of team against Amir Sohail's pathetic comments. Ganguly and Harbhajan did better.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

There was a time not too long ago when the two choices that Pakistan had for captaincy were Afridi and Misbah.

No wonder we were ranked at 8-9 after those two gentlemen were done 'saving' us.

Afridi, Misbah era was the darkest in our odi history.
And when people like me said we have exciting times ahead under Sarfi we were called haters.

Just accept it that they were mediocre captains.

 

[SarfiBabarHaris]

Most of our current cricketers seem to be jealous of Sarfraz and current team.
Havent seen any genuine praise by Pakistani ex-cricketers yet. Always was disappointing to see no prominent names came in defense of team against Amir Sohail's pathetic comments. Ganguly and Harbhajan did better.

Most of our ex-cricketers*
Also was disappointing*

 

[DRsohail]

getting rid of you was a good step towards rectifying our cricket..

 

[Pakistanian]

Don't wanna conquer the world as long as we win Championships. All that matters is rings.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Afridi's removal was the best thing to happen to Pakistan's cricket.

 

[PakLFC]

Just defeated the Windies and now won the CT is good enough for me. Of course we are not a great side, no one is saying that. It's not as if Afridi's career is full of winning world cup's that he is going on. Other hen test Cricket the game only has three major tournaments from which we have won one. Don't belittle the achievement and spoil the feel good emotions Pak Cricket and people are experiencing.

 

[Major]

See the difference between misbah and shahid afridi?

While one predicted pakistan to win the ct even after losing to india the other has this bs to say.

 

[Major]

His comments really bother me.

How many trophies did he win as captain? Yet he has this crap to say

 

[www787]

The man who delayed the arrival of Yasir Shah

If Yasir Shah was in Afridi's shoes, and Afridi was as good as Yasir Shah, then, Yasir Shah would have also delayed the arrival of Afridi.

No one likes to leave.

 

[Major]

Is Afridi jealous of Sarfaraz?

Seniority attitude.

The fact that sarfraz and co are getting so many prizes and have the whole city welcoming him and his mate back and all.

Afridi probably thinks his juniors dont deserve this.

 

[Sirris]

Guys let's be mature.

His quote out of the context sounds harsh, rude and inappropriate.

if you look beyond your personal bias, it's obvious he is referring to PCB and not sarfraz or the team.

He is pointing out that the PCB shouldn't become delusional and think that every thing is fine with pak cricket and doesn't need any fixing.

Just see the last quote:

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

Do you seriously think he is talking to Sarfraz or pak players?

 

[PakWC2015]

Is Afridi jealous of Sarfaraz?

Afridi has been calling for Safraz to be captain long before it happened and supported the team throughout the tournament. He was full of praise for sarfraz and the team.

 

[TalhaSyed]

The usual fans looking for the usual drama.

Both players have retired and we still have stupid Afridi vs Misbah debates

Apparently now if you say that the domestic structure needs to be fixed, you are jealous of Sarfraz

The IQ levels on the forum seems to nose dive when the Misbah fans and the Afridi fans come out with their biased, senseless commentary. The fact that two players who have served Pakistan so well and achieved so much for Pakistan still get bashed after retirement highlights the biggest problem Pakistani cricket has IMO - the fans.

The group of fans who are impatient, ungrateful, biased, narrow minded have their own agenda and spew garbage rather than appreciate the talent we have and what the players are doing. It's the kind of fans who always feel victimised and think the grass is greener on the other side, whilst continuing to disrespect legends who have played for their country.

I don't even know why I'm bothering making this post since it's just gonna attract the kind of fans I'm talking about & I have no patient to list all the achievements Misbah and Afridi and achieved for Pakistan.

Hay ho - let's give it a go anyway

 

[Syed1]

His comments really bother me.

How many trophies did he win as captain? Yet he has this crap to say

He won us 2009 T20 WC, while Misbah the saviour lost us the 2007 T20 WC.

 

[sadida97]

He won us 2009 T20 WC, while Misbah the saviour lost us the 2007 T20 WC.

I am not a huge misbah fan, but what you said here is wrong...... that game was already lost, it was misbah who brought it that close but unfortunately couldn't finish it

 

[Monsee]

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

Getting rid of you was step one and the most necessary one.

Amen, this leech and others like him like Sohail Tanvir, Hafeez, Anwar Ali etc. have been blocking the place of many a deserving youngsters for years.

 

[Khwaja]

I am not a huge misbah fan, but what you said here is wrong...... that game was already lost, it was misbah who brought it that close but unfortunately couldn't finish it

Tanvir helped us

 

[coy0607]

Guys let's be mature.

His quote out of the context sounds harsh, rude and inappropriate.

if you look beyond your personal bias, it's obvious he is referring to PCB and not sarfraz or the team.

He is pointing out that the PCB shouldn't become delusional and think that every thing is fine with pak cricket and doesn't need any fixing.

Just see the last quote:

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

Do you seriously think he is talking to Sarfraz or pak players?

Well said

The quote could be about multiple things, or implying multiple things.
We have to see the interview to understand it

Afridi is too smart with marketing his brand to attack Sarfraz right now.. he's no Aamir Sohail

 

[GreenShirts]

Tanvir helped us

He did more than what Afridi did in that game.

 

[Khwaja]

He did more than what Afridi did in that game.

Afridi did more than he did in his whole career.... your point??

 

[GreenShirts]

Amen, this leech and others like him like Sohail Tanvir, Hafeez, Anwar Ali etc. have been blocking the place of many a deserving youngsters for years.

I agree.Afridi overstayed his welcome by 3 years in ODI's.Should have retired at the top of his game in 2012.

 

[GreenShirts]

Afridi did more than he did in his whole career.... your point??

Just saying it's unfair to blame Misbah for the 2007 WT20 loss when he performed well with the bat and brought us so close,while Afridi got out for a golden duck.
Not a Misbah or Afridi fan.

 

[Major]

He won us 2009 T20 WC, while Misbah the saviour lost us the 2007 T20 WC.

reread my post again.

 

[Khwaja]

Just saying it's unfair to blame Misbah for the 2007 WT20 loss when he performed well with the bat and brought us so close,while Afridi got out for a golden duck.
Not a Misbah or Afridi fan.

and who got them to final?

 

[GreenShirts]

and who got them to final?

An excellent team effort.Misbah was the third highest run scorer,with fifties against Australia and India,while Afridi was the second highest wicket taker,with 12 wickets,4 against Scotland and 3 against SL.

Like I said,I'm not a big fan of either but both deserve credit and Misbah doesn't deserve all the hate.
His Mohali innings was bad though.

 

[kaifmazhar]

The man who delayed the arrival of Yasir Shah

How is that even remotely related?Afridi left test cricket long time back and Yasir plays only Test cricket.

 

[Aman]

Need a WC to conqueror the world.

Tbf, Pakistan have had the mace in Test cricket recently. Next would be holding the mace for a longer period of time.

 

[Ellipsism]

Afridi did more than he did in his whole career.... your point??

I mean having a few match winning performances after 400 ODI games isn't something to brag about.

I could bet my bottom dollar that if Tanvir had the amount of opportunities Afridi did he would have had twice as many match winning performances.

 

[Khwaja]

I mean having a few match winning performances after 400 ODI games isn't something to brag about.

I could bet my bottom dollar that if Tanvir had the amount of opportunities Afridi did he would have had twice as many match winning performances.

No he wouldn't

 

[Khwaja]

An excellent team effort.Misbah was the third highest run scorer,with fifties against Australia and India,while Afridi was the second highest wicket taker,with 12 wickets,4 against Scotland and 3 against SL.

Like I said,I'm not a big fan of either but both deserve credit and Misbah doesn't deserve all the hate.
His Mohali innings was bad though.

Afridi much better

 

[Badsha]

Crazy how our fans are ready to attack anyone. All he said was the the trophy doesn't fix problems of domestic cricket.

 

[kingusama92]

He's right especially when that trophy isn't the world cup.

The goal should be to build a powerhouse and the pieces are there. You can build around core talent like Babar Azam, Mohammad Amir, Hasan Ali, and Sarfraz Ahmed.

A viable domestic circuit can help provide support players to work with that core. If not, you'll see the team win here and there before slowing down.

 

[Monsee]

Well said

The quote could be about multiple things, or implying multiple things.
We have to see the interview to understand it

Afridi is too smart with marketing his brand to attack Sarfraz right now.. he's no Aamir Sohail

And there in lies the irony i.e. Afridi is one of the main reason our limited overs team's progress was held back; if he had retired in 2011 or 2012, by now we could have had a very settled team. And also gotten rid of some of the other TTF's who were hard to be kicked due to Afridi being the shinning example of how to play politics and continue one's career despite being hardly effective any longer

 

[Monsee]

Crazy how our fans are ready to attack anyone. All he said was the the trophy doesn't fix problems of domestic cricket.

When everyone clearly knows he didn't do anything to help resolve any of those problems by saying things like 'There is no talent coming through, I am much better than other current domestic players etc.', and clinging on to a place he did not deserve...what do you expeect the fans to say/do?

Should they start acting insanely like all foolish Afridians and also do a 'Bayt' on his hand and select him as their Peer' or something?

 

[Mian]

Want to see difference in class? Read Imran's statements about Misbah as captain and CT victory

"Misbah is Pakistan's best Test captain and a wonderful Test batsman" : Imran Khan

"Winning Champions Trophy feels even better because they won it without any big names like we had in 1992 WC" : Imran Khan

 

[Khwaja]

Want to see difference in class? Read Imran's statements about Misbah as captain and CT victory

"Misbah is Pakistan's best Test captain and a wonderful Test batsman" : Imran Khan

"Winning Champions Trophy feels even better because they won it without any big names like we had in 1992 WC" : Imran Khan

Imran is the best captain indeed

 

[ask_analyse_act]

it would be nice to select the folks that are putting up a show in the current system (as we did at CT), before looking to fix the system

as you came to believe in this aspect post CT, many will follow...

the domestic performers have always looked better and more comfortable than the Hafeez', Maliks, Shehzads, Wahabs, Azhars and UAs...In LOIs these days though massive difference is there between pak domestic and international it is still easy to fit in.. In tests it will be a different story where experience is also needed..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

getting rid of you was a good step towards rectifying our cricket..

also need to get rid of his mindset on "hitting a six and going for a six again to get out culture" cultivated on many young minds of batsmen today in domestics as well... start with UA first..

 

[ask_analyse_act]

I'm talking about 19.2 overs

if it wasnt him pak would have been defeated so early not by 5 runs by 50 runs actually..Though he lost doing something rubbish like that and couldnt finish the match but need to appreciate his valiant fighting effort to bring that close and make a chance...

 

[akberc]

No he wouldn't

Afridi was an impact player, compares nicely to other impact players when the measure of the impact on a match is MoM award :




http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283705.html

 

[adil_909]

Yes, we know.

If I got 10 rupees every time this clown got out in this exact same way, I would be a rich man by now

 

[DRsohail]

Afridi was an impact player, compares nicely to other impact players when the measure of the impact on a match is MoM award :


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http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283705.html

the impact is significant if u count hia ducks too..

 

[Fantasy]

He definitely has a point about the domestic structure and I agree that domestic cricket needs a massive overhaul for the betterment of Pakiatan cricket.

 

[Naim]

Guys let's be mature.

His quote out of the context sounds harsh, rude and inappropriate.

if you look beyond your personal bias, it's obvious he is referring to PCB and not sarfraz or the team.

He is pointing out that the PCB shouldn't become delusional and think that every thing is fine with pak cricket and doesn't need any fixing.

Just see the last quote:

"If you wish Pakistan to consistently win trophies, then you have to fix/mend your domestic system"

Do you seriously think he is talking to Sarfraz or pak players?

This .

Don't know why people are against him .

 

[Ellipsism]

No he wouldn't

Any one of our domestic players could win you more games than Afridi did if given the same amount of opportunities.

 

[Pete Rose]

He definitely has a point about the domestic structure and I agree that domestic cricket needs a massive overhaul for the betterment of Pakiatan cricket.

Why what's wrong with domestic cricket?

 

[Hasan123]

Our domestic pitches do need to be improved definitely.

 

[Fantasy]

Why what's wrong with domestic cricket?

Well,I don't know whether this is a serious question or not but there are infinite reasons for domestic cricket to be seriously looked into that is ranging from surfaces being used,balls being used,the season when domestic cricket starts,umpiríng standards, scrutiny of coaches,the follow up to the youth programs,nepotism in the domestics,etc.

 

[Pete Rose]

Well,I don't know whether this is a serious question or not but there are infinite reasons for domestic cricket to be seriously looked into that is ranging from surfaces being used,balls being used,the season when domestic cricket starts,umpiríng standards, scrutiny of coaches,the follow up to the youth programs,nepotism in the domestics,etc.

It's a serious question and these are generic complaints. I am interested in understanding what is specifically wrong and what consequence has is had on our cricket. Other conservative selection holding back players not much is a major issue.
What I am saying is that we should deeply sceptical of ex-players talking in generalities. I can respect Imran Khan's opinion somewhat but what interest should I have in the views of Shahid 'there is no talent in Pakistan/ there are no better allrounders than me in Pakistan' Afridi.

 

[aukhan]

Afridi has been calling for Safraz to be captain long before it happened and supported the team throughout the tournament. He was full of praise for sarfraz and the team.

Ahan so this is the reason why sarfraz as vice captain was benched for more than half of the matches when afridi last captained pakistan in T20s

 

[aukhan]

Afridi and other former cricketers are just jealous of this team's success. Jalkukray

 

[fawad_wellwisher]

Old is being replaced by new. Expect Hasan Ali to be the face of next round of Head and Shoulders ads.