Dropping Kuldeep Yadav for Ravindra Jadeja | What is it if not pure favouritism?

[Bhaijaan]

Since Jan- 2017 Kuldeep has been one of the best strike bowlers in the world. Remarkable average and stats. Made a great transition to test cricket as well and now you have Kohli/Shastry dropping him for Jadeja.

Bhaijaan doesn't hate Jadeja but you don't drop someone who's been phenomenal just liek that. It is needless and messes with a young players' career.

 

[WengerOut]

CSK quota

 

[Saurav]

Jadeja has come in for Pandya at 7

Its one of the pacers that has replaced Kuldeep from the Asia Cup XI

 

[Reddy]

Till the time Dhoni is not kicked out he will keep getting his CSK stooges in the Indian team, this is also why you see CSK trundlers getting many games eventhough Indian domestic scene has ten 140 K plus bowlers waiting for their turn.

 

[Hasan123]

Kuldeep is a must in LO.

 

[WengerOut]

He had Hetmeyer on a string in tests. Got him 3 times out of 4, the other being run out

 

[Saurav]

Till the time Dhoni is not kicked out he will keep getting his CSK stooges in the Indian team, this is also why you see CSK trundlers getting many games eventhough Indian domestic scene has ten 140 K plus bowlers waiting for their turn.

That excuse worked till Dhoni was captain

but now Kohli should have balls to give merit a chance.Buck stops with him

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pandya is much better than jadeja and i hope that jadeja is exposed by the time pandya returns.
Sorry to say but Those who think jadeja is an allrounder have 0 knowledge of cricket.
Kuldeep is a must have option in odis. Jadeja is only capable of making 20 runs on 25 balls at last, nothing more.
I really hate csk franchise
Mohit sharma, fixing, jadeja, htb ashwin, they have given 0 good players till now.

 

[Justcrazy]

Kuldeep is first name as far as bowling is concerned , but India is trying to rotate players . Kuldeep would play in crucial games .

He will be India frontline spinner in WC next year.

 

[Srtfan]

Rested

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pandya is much better than jadeja and i hope that jadeja is exposed by the time pandya returns.
Sorry to say but Those who think jadeja is an allrounder have 0 knowledge of cricket.
Kuldeep is a must have option in odis. Jadeja is only capable of making 20 runs on 25 balls at last, nothing more.
I really hate csk franchise
Mohit sharma, fixing, jadeja, htb ashwin, they have given 0 good players till now.

So you have more cricketing knowledge than Ravi Shastri and Virat Kohli?

Sir, you are just an arm chair expert. Your opinions do not matter and thank god you are not our selector. Am I right? [MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION]

And it also seems you have started to hate CSK? Time to use some popular tags like #IPLRocks #ThankYouIPL #CSKRocks

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

OP doesn't have any idea about who is dropped for whom and decided to create another funny thread.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Till the time Dhoni is not kicked out he will keep getting his CSK stooges in the Indian team, this is also why you see CSK trundlers getting many games eventhough Indian domestic scene has ten 140 K plus bowlers waiting for their turn.

What rubbish is this? Do you have any proof of that?

 

[the_outsider]

So you have more cricketing knowledge than Ravi Shastri and Virat Kohli?

Sir, you are just an arm chair expert. Your opinions do not matter and thank god you are not our selector. Am I right? [MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION]

Couldn't agree more.

 

[rahulrulezz]

So you have more cricketing knowledge than Ravi Shastri and Virat Kohli?

Sir, you are just an arm chair expert. Your opinions do not matter and thank god you are not our selector. Am I right? [MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION]

And it also seems you have started to hate CSK? Time to use some popular tags like #IPLRocks #ThankYouIPL #CSKRocks

Cricket knowledge has nothing to do with playing for India or coach. Stuart Binny was played for recently by Dhoni and co, Ajinkya Rahane played so many T20s and Odis for India. All these rubbish calls were made indian coach and captain and they have been proven wrong. Shows that cricket knowledge is not limited to India captain or coach.

A good Cricket analyst has more cricketing knowledge than international cricketers.

Kuldeep is 100 times the bowler that Jadeja is. Kohli even though has been my most favourite Indian captain has been acting crazily lately.

 

[the_outsider]

I don't understand why so many posters are losing their minds over this!

On one hand, you guys want Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan to rest so that we can give chances to Shaw and Gill for God knows what reason.

But now that the team management has dropped Kuldeep to give Khaleel some game time everyone is just losing it. What gives?

It's pretty obvious that Kuldeep hasn't been replaced with Jadeja. Jadeja has taken Pandya's place for now - which is a no brainer because you need batting till no 7.

Kuldeep's place has been taken by Khaleel. And the WI series is the last chance to have such luxuries so why shouldn't they test out the bench strength?

Kuldeep is one of the first names on that WC squad list. So there's no need to test him out. So why not use this opportunity to test out the pace bowling bench strength - something which actually needs attention.

 

[rahulrulezz]

I don't understand why so many posters are losing their minds over this!

On one hand, you guys want Kohli, Rohit, Dhawan to rest so that we can give chances to Shaw and Gill for God knows what reason.

But now that the team management has dropped Kuldeep to give Khaleel some game time everyone is just losing it. What gives?

It's pretty obvious that Kuldeep hasn't been replaced with Jadeja. Jadeja has taken Pandya's place for now - which is a no brainer because you need batting till no 7.

Kuldeep's place has been taken by Khaleel. And the WI series is the last chance to have such luxuries so why shouldn't they test out the bench strength?

Kuldeep is one of the first names on that WC squad list. So there's no need to test him out. So why not use this opportunity to test out the pace bowling bench strength - something which actually needs attention.

Hold your horses. You actually think Kuldeep is a sure shot in playing 11 in worldcup. If you think yes, then my man you got it wrong. With the way Kohli is behaving lately, I see Kohli playing Jadeja or Chahal over Kuldeep.

If I am putting an 11, Kuldeep will be second on my list right after Kohli. Yes over Rohit, over Dhawan, over Bumrah, over Chahal and DEFINTELY over Jadeja.

 

[the_outsider]

Hold your horses. You actually think Kuldeep is a sure shot in playing 11 in worldcup. If you think yes, then my man you got it wrong. With the way Kohli is behaving lately, I see Kohli playing Jadeja or Chahal over Kuldeep.

If I am putting an 11, Kuldeep will be second on my list right after Kohli. Yes over Rohit, over Dhawan, over Bumrah, over Chahal and DEFINTELY over Jadeja.

Kuldeep is a sure shot for the WC.

Let's not forget that Jadeja was only brought back when Pandya became unavailable. And he is regularly in the XI right now for that very same reason.

To think that Kohli and Shastri would pick Jadeja over Kuldeep - or even Chahal - is nothing short of paranoia.

 

[rahulrulezz]

Kuldeep is a sure shot for the WC.

Let's not forget that Jadeja was only brought back when Pandya became unavailable. And he is regularly in the XI right now for that very same reason.

To think that Kohli and Shastri would pick Jadeja over Kuldeep - or even Chahal - is nothing short of paranoia.

Lol you just read yourself again. You are contradicting yourself. They could have dropped Chahal for Kuldeep, they could have dropped Dhawan for Rahul, they could have dropped Dhoni for trying Pant and Rahul. But they didn't. Because they don't want to mess with confidence of players like Dhawan or Rohit or Dhoni or Chahal. But they dropped Kuldeep.

Teams usually put their best 11 in the first few games, win the series and try players in dead rubber games. This game was game 1, and India didn't want to experiment. Which is why they dropped Kuldeep over Chahal. Shows Kohli prefers Chahal over Kuldeep and will always select over Chahal when India plays one spinner on pacy pitches.

 

[the_outsider]

Lol you just read yourself again. You are contradicting yourself. They could have dropped Chahal for Kuldeep, they could have dropped Dhawan for Rahul, they could have dropped Dhoni for trying Pant and Rahul. But they didn't. Because they don't want to mess with confidence of players like Dhawan or Rohit or Dhoni or Chahal. But they dropped Kuldeep.

Teams usually put their best 11 in the first few games, win the series and try players in dead rubber games. This game was game 1, and India didn't want to experiment. Which is why they dropped Kuldeep over Chahal. Shows Kohli prefers Chahal over Kuldeep and will always select over Chahal when India plays one spinner on pacy pitches.

Okay. Let me get to this point by point.

1. Clearly this series is being used to give some players like Khaleel and Pant some game time. Because this is the best chance to do that without risking a loss.

2. The point about playing the best XI in the first game doesn't hold true. Else Bumrah and Bhuvi would have been in the squad for the first 2 matches.

3. They wouldn't rest Dhoni or Dhawan. Those two guys are already playing just white ball cricket. If they start resting them for ODIs too, when will they ever play and be match ready.

4. There have been matches where Chahal has been rested and Kuldeep has played.

5. And lastly, Kuldeep just played the whole of Asia Cup and the 2 tests against WI back-to-back. If there was any justification to rest anybody, it certainly applied more to Kuldeep than Chahal. Simply because he might require that rest more than Chahal who hasn't played since the Asia Cup final.



You are freaking out over nothing. Kuldeep is first choice spinner for Kohli. If he wasn't, then he wouldn't be playing test cricket for India right now. Chahal would.

 

[cricketworm]

On super flat pitch, I am glad Kuldeep is rested. I thought they are rotating players. Less to do with who replaces who.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

So Kuldeep is picked again and guess who got dropped? No it is not Jadeja.

 

[Suleiman]

Jadeja has one in a million type hidden talent, a lot like his brother from across the border Afridi. A true match winner.

These type of players you use when you're unsure, give them your trust. They might not always win you the game, but when they do, they will also win your heart.

 

[ravisurya]

As long as Dhoni is in the team the likes of Jadeja and Biryani will keep getting a chance before deserving cricketers. Anyone who plays for CSK has a great chance of making the Indian team, just ask the likes of Chahar and Thakur. Wouldnt be surprised if we see Raina back before the world cup.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Jadeja has one in a million type hidden talent, a lot like his brother from across the border Afridi. A true match winner.

These type of players you use when you're unsure, give them your trust. They might not always win you the game, but when they do, they will also win your heart.

There is no player in the history of the sport like lala bhaijaan. Jadeja's numbers do tell the story when it comes to any format. Lala the beast cannot be fathomed from mere numbers and stats. You had to watch him play to feel the aura if his presence in the team. A truly remarkable phenomenon.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Out of no where, using Pandya's injury as an excuse, Jadeja has comeback to the team and has now become a permanent fixture in the bowling line up! Unbelievable.

The way Kuldeep is being treated, will not be long before he gets totally derailed and loses his spot. Shame on Kohli for such blatant favoritism.

 

[the_outsider]

Out of no where, using Pandya's injury as an excuse, Jadeja has comeback to the team and has now become a permanent fixture in the bowling line up! Unbelievable.

The way Kuldeep is being treated, will not be long before he gets totally derailed and loses his spot. Shame on Kohli for such blatant favoritism.

What do you mean out of nowhere? An all-rounder has replaced an all-rounder.

Who else would you have brought in? Vijay Shankar?

 

[RamLakhan]

So Kuldeep is picked again and guess who got dropped? No it is not Jadeja.

Jadeja was your favorite player few weeks back, what happened?

 

[cricketindiafan]

What do you mean out of nowhere? An all-rounder has replaced an all-rounder.

Who else would you have brought in? Vijay Shankar?

Anyone else but Jadeja. He was dropped after CT for being totally ineffective. Did nothing in the shorter formats in those 12 months, yet he was back and now seems to have a permamnent place in the squad ahead of Kuldeep who has in those 12 months picked 50 ODI wickets!

As for who else for Pandya, why not give a chance to Krunal Pandya, Shreyas Gopal or Krishnappa Gowtham?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Anyone else but Jadeja. He was dropped after CT for being totally ineffective. Did nothing in the shorter formats in those 12 months, yet he was back and now seems to have a permamnent place in the squad ahead of Kuldeep who has in those 12 months picked 50 ODI wickets!

As for who else for Pandya, why not give a chance to Krunal Pandya, Shreyas Gopal or Krishnappa Gowtham?

Exactly.

Jaddu's batting is lottery. He has been decent in tests but in LOI, I won't trust him at all.

 

[RamLakhan]

Anyone else but Jadeja. He was dropped after CT for being totally ineffective. Did nothing in the shorter formats in those 12 months, yet he was back and now seems to have a permamnent place in the squad ahead of Kuldeep who has in those 12 months picked 50 ODI wickets!

As for who else for Pandya, why not give a chance to Krunal Pandya, Shreyas Gopal or Krishnappa Gowtham?

You have to leave all that to BCCI government or BCCI Space Organization! You have nothing to do with their business!

 

[RamLakhan]

Exactly.

Jaddu's batting is lottery. He has been decent in tests but in LOI, I won't trust him at all.

Jadeja had a wonderful opportunity to become a top alrounder! But he has been reduced to a darting bowler with some late-order unpredictable batting (even Rajesh Chouhan had that skills)! I don't think he can suddenly emerge & resurrect his batting skills! That's all we can get from him (His batting skills at the most is equivalent to Kumble who scored a century in England or Srinath who won some matches in ODIs, but at least they went on to become TOP bowlers! Jadeja just went on to become a TOP fielder, which we didn't expect! That's the only improvement he made!)

If you want more from Jadeja then its better you look at someone else for that and mold that guy right from the beginning the way you want, else it won't happen later or move on to other guy!

 

[the_outsider]

Anyone else but Jadeja. He was dropped after CT for being totally ineffective. Did nothing in the shorter formats in those 12 months, yet he was back and now seems to have a permamnent place in the squad ahead of Kuldeep who has in those 12 months picked 50 ODI wickets!

As for who else for Pandya, why not give a chance to Krunal Pandya, Shreyas Gopal or Krishnappa Gowtham?

Jadeja most certainly isn't being picked ahead of Kuldeep. Idk why people are under this impression just because Kuldeep was rested for one game.

Krunal and Gowtham has hardly done enough to warrant a place in the side. They don't even finish their full quota of overs for India A. And Shreyas Gopal is not an AR. He is a number 9 bat. So he doesn't fit the role. Now, I admit that the team management could have taken a punt on on Gowtham or Krunal. But because this is basically a back-up for Hardik in the WC, I think they have gone for experience. And it's not like Jadeja hasn't performed since his comeback so idk why everyone is so upset with him.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Jadeja had a wonderful opportunity to become a top alrounder! But he has been reduced to a darting bowler with some late-order unpredictable batting (even Rajesh Chouhan had that skills)! I don't think he can suddenly emerge & resurrect his batting skills! That's all we can get from him (His batting skills at the most is equivalent to Kumble who scored a century in England or Srinath who won some matches in ODIs, but at least they went on to become TOP bowlers! Jadeja just went on to become a TOP fielder, which we didn't expect! That's the only improvement he made!)

If you want more from Jadeja then its better you look at someone else for that and mold that guy right from the beginning the way you want, else it won't happen later or move on to other guy!

I have nothing against Jadeja the test all rounder. He's been better bowler than Ashwin on our home tracks in last 2 years and has scored useful runs as well. But he isn't better than Kuldeep in shorter formats and even as all rounders, we should have gone to new players now.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jadeja was your favorite player few weeks back, what happened?

What happened to you? Looks like you are confusing me with [MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION]

Still if you have no idea of what I am talking about then read my previous posts in this thread and save yourself from embarrassment. Thank you.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Jadeja most certainly isn't being picked ahead of Kuldeep. Idk why people are under this impression just because Kuldeep was rested for one game.

Krunal and Gowtham has hardly done enough to warrant a place in the side. They don't even finish their full quota of overs for India A. And Shreyas Gopal is not an AR. He is a number 9 bat. So he doesn't fit the role. Now, I admit that the team management could have taken a punt on on Gowtham or Krunal. But because this is basically a back-up for Hardik in the WC, I think they have gone for experience. And it's not like Jadeja hasn't performed since his comeback so idk why everyone is so upset with him.

Using your arguments, Jadeja should have never ever played for India.

You do not have to blindly get defensive about every single criticism of this hopeless team management. Even if its for one match, why the hell will you rest your leading attacking spinner? Kudos to Kuldeep to have not lost his marbles but the number of times he's been tossed around is downright pathetic.

 

[the_outsider]

Using your arguments, Jadeja should have never ever played for India.

You do not have to blindly get defensive about every single criticism of this hopeless team management. Even if its for one match, why the hell will you rest your leading attacking spinner? Kudos to Kuldeep to have not lost his marbles but the number of times he's been tossed around is downright pathetic.

But at the same time, he has been backed a lot as well. He was picked ahead of Jadeja at Lord's wasn't he?

I'm not being defensive. I just think you are overreacting. Kuldeep Yadav is our future. I am pretty sure Kohli and co know that. You're reading into small things too much and worrying over nothing.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Jadeja most certainly isn't being picked ahead of Kuldeep. Idk why people are under this impression just because Kuldeep was rested for one game.

Krunal and Gowtham has hardly done enough to warrant a place in the side. They don't even finish their full quota of overs for India A. And Shreyas Gopal is not an AR. He is a number 9 bat. So he doesn't fit the role. Now, I admit that the team management could have taken a punt on on Gowtham or Krunal. But because this is basically a back-up for Hardik in the WC, I think they have gone for experience. And it's not like Jadeja hasn't performed since his comeback so idk why everyone is so upset with him.

Good post. Finally.
It is pretty clear that Kuldeep was dropped for Khaleel and Jadeja has been picked because team management's darling Hardik Pandya is injured.

 

[cricketindiafan]

But at the same time, he has been backed a lot as well. He was picked ahead of Jadeja at Lord's wasn't he?

I'm not being defensive. I just think you are overreacting. Kuldeep Yadav is our future. I am pretty sure Kohli and co know that. You're reading into small things too much and worrying over nothing.

How I wish the then Team management had similarly backed Kohli in that Adelaide Test in 2012 by resting him and picking someone else.

 

[the_outsider]

How I wish the then Team management had similarly backed Kohli in that Adelaide Test in 2012 by resting him and picking someone else.

Now you are just not making any sense and saying things just for the sake of saying things.

Keep calm and have faith.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Now you are just not making any sense and saying things just for the sake of saying things.

Keep calm and have faith.

Read your own posts and look again for the meaning of 'backing' someone.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

How I wish the then Team management had similarly backed Kohli in that Adelaide Test in 2012 by resting him and picking someone else.

Stop crying please and enjoy Kohli's inning. He is marching towards 10k runs in ODIs.

 

[RamLakhan]

What happened to you? Looks like you are confusing me with [MENTION=147270]the_outsider[/MENTION]

Still if you have no idea of what I am talking about then read my previous posts in this thread and save yourself from embarrassment. Thank you.

I remember correctly you were telling Jadeja is far better than Pandya (bits and piece guy!) Now why you are complaining when he has aptly replaced (Jadeja replacing Pandya?) Don't mix up things!

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I remember correctly you were telling Jadeja is far better than Pandya (bits and piece guy!) Now why you are complaining when he has aptly replaced (Jadeja replacing Pandya?) Don't mix up things!

Lol firstly go back and read my previous posts in this thread. You have no idea of what you are talking about in this thread.

Still if you are lazy and want an unnecesary argument I will make it simpler for you

=> OP said Jadeja has replaced Kuldeep.
=> I replied to him that Jadeja has not replaced Kuldeep. Kuldeep was replaced by one of the fast bowler.
=> Today Kuldeep got picked again and Khaleel was dropped. Point proven.

And here you come with your unnecessary gibberish about Pandya and Jadeja. Me picking Jadeja over Pandya won't make Jadeja my favorite player. It's just a case of picking horses for courses. I specifically said I will pick Jadeja over Pandya at home at least. Pandya's pace bowling isn't going to help in India and his batting is inconsistent. So it is better to pick someone who is at least good in one department. Got it now?

 

[RyanRyan10]

Okay. Let me get to this point by point.

1. Clearly this series is being used to give some players like Khaleel and Pant some game time. Because this is the best chance to do that without risking a loss.

2. The point about playing the best XI in the first game doesn't hold true. Else Bumrah and Bhuvi would have been in the squad for the first 2 matches.

3. They wouldn't rest Dhoni or Dhawan. Those two guys are already playing just white ball cricket. If they start resting them for ODIs too, when will they ever play and be match ready.

4. There have been matches where Chahal has been rested and Kuldeep has played.

5. And lastly, Kuldeep just played the whole of Asia Cup and the 2 tests against WI back-to-back. If there was any justification to rest anybody, it certainly applied more to Kuldeep than Chahal. Simply because he might require that rest more than Chahal who hasn't played since the Asia Cup final.



You are freaking out over nothing. Kuldeep is first choice spinner for Kohli. If he wasn't, then he wouldn't be playing test cricket for India right now. Chahal would.

Khaleel got dropped after 1 match
This proves your 1st point wrong
Is this the way to back a young Cricketer

Regarding Bumrah & Bhuvi,they are not in squad so the case is different
But here Kuldeep is in the squad & India's no.1 spinner so he should be starting in the XI for the 1st match of a series
Was Ashwin ever dropped or "benched" for the 1st match of the series when he was a part of the squad?(and Ashwin was also a very mediocre odi bowler whereas Kuldeep is world class)

And when has Chahal been benched for Kuldeep?
I see Kuldeep always getting benched if the captain decided to play 1 of them?
It had happened in away series in SL,in home series against SL,in t20i series vs SA in SA,in Nidahas trophy,in the series decider of t20i series in Eng and now once again here

Lastly,Jadeja is a left arm orthodox,Chahal is Leg spinner
Both of their balls turn away from right handers
Whereas Kuldeep is Chinaman whose ball turns into the right handers so playing Kuldeep would give India more variety

 

[RamLakhan]

Lol firstly go back and read my previous posts in this thread. You have no idea of what you are talking about in this thread.

Still if you are lazy and want an unnecesary argument I will make it simpler for you

=> OP said Jadeja has replaced Kuldeep.
=> I replied to him that Jadeja has not replaced Kuldeep. Kuldeep was replaced by one of the fast bowler.
=> Today Kuldeep got picked again and Khaleel was dropped. Point proven.

And here you come with your unnecessary gibberish about Pandya and Jadeja. Me picking Jadeja over Pandya won't make Jadeja my favorite player. It's just a case of picking horses for courses. I specifically said I will pick Jadeja over Pandya at home at least. Pandya's pace bowling isn't going to help in India and his batting is inconsistent. So it is better to pick someone who is at least good in one department. Got it now?

I didn't read everything! Just guessed you changed stance towards Jadeja and preferred someone else! Sorry if I misunderstood this time, I know I maybe right next time