England vs Australia | 4th ODI | Cardiff | 14/09/2013

[Ims1]

Michael Clarke calls heads, it lands tails and Eoin Morgan chooses to bowl first and England go with the same side that got thumped in Manchester and struggled at Edgbaston. Clarke would also have bowled first and announces that Nathan Coulter-Nile is playing instead of Josh Hazlewood.

England 1 Michael Carberry, 2 Kevin Pietersen, 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Eoin Morgan (capt), 5 Joe Root, 6 Ravi Bopara, 7 Jos Buttler (wkt), 8 Ben Stokes, 9 James Tredwell, 10 Steven Finn, 11 Boyd Rankin

Australia 1 Aaron Finch, 2 Shaun Marsh, 3 Shane Watson, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 George Bailey, 6 Adam Voges, 7 Matthew Wade (wkt), 8 James Faulkner, 9 Mitchell Johnson, 10 Nathan Coulter-Nile, 11 Clint McKay

 

[Robert]

England vs Australia | 4th ODI | 14 September 2013 | Discussion Thread

Looks like England have made a good start to this JAMODI, in particular with their tall fast opening pair of Finn and some Irish mercenary.

 

[leatherface58]

Re: England vs Australia | 4th ODI | 14 September 2013

Kiwinglish Stokes strikes.

 

[Mamoon]

Do you think Rankin will get a Test call up?

 

[Sakss]

68-4 now Voges and Bailey at the crease

 

[Robert]

This looks like an English April wicket - a bit damp and seaming.

 

[OZGOD]

Looks like we will be rolled for under 200

 

[Ims1]

153 for 5 in 34 . is 250 on ?

 

[OZGOD]

153 for 5 in 34 . is 250 on ?

No. Probably 230

 

[OZGOD]

Gotta give credit to Bailey though, he's a mongrel

 

[Gunther]

Good opportunity for Carberry to get some runs and settle in. Also chance for Johnson to show he can perform under a bit of pressure.

 

[OZGOD]

Off to bed. When I wake up I will see if we have managed to defend 227 or whatever it was

 

[khalil1986]

Gotta give credit to Bailey though, he's a mongrel

He is a gun player and for my money should be playing the ashes when England tour, he seems to enjoy the pressure.

BTW don't care what his domestic stats are for this season.

 

[leatherface58]

Re: England vs Australia | 4th ODI | 14 September 2013

McKay unleashing the inner beast.

 

[Kianig89]

Hattrick

 

[KPfan]

McKay, of all?

 

[Justcrazy]

Poms 62 . 3

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

Morgan looking good here.

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 152 runs with 7 wickets and 27.0 overs remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

Partnership 71 runs.

 

[Justcrazy]

Looks like a real close game.

 

[Justcrazy]

Poms have clawed back in the game.

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 127 runs with 7 wickets and 21.0 overs remaining

 

[Gunther]

Carberry looks like one of those WI players who blast their way to 70 ball 100s or really struggle at the crease. He plays with real tight hands and is too rigid in the crease. I would be highly surprised if he has a longish stint with England.

 

[Justcrazy]

Aussies need a wicket here.

 

[truefan]

Match is getting more interesting now

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 108 runs with 6 wickets and 17.0 overs remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

:4

carberry finds a boundary.

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 101 runs with 5 wickets and 15.0 overs remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

required RR is increasing here.

 

[Justcrazy]

:4

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 95 runs with 5 wickets and 14.0 overs remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 51 runs with 4 wickets and 47 balls remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 39 runs with 4 wickets and 42 balls remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 36 runs with 4 wickets and 36 balls remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 23 runs with 4 wickets and 24 balls remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

Stokes looking good with the bat

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 18 runs with 4 wickets and 18 balls remaining

 

[Mamoon]

Carberry is so ordinary.

 

[Justcrazy]

211 / 6

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 11 runs with 4 wickets and 13 balls remaining

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

England require another 9 runs with 3 wickets and 8 balls remaining

 

[Gabbar Singh]

What a great finish - well played Mr Buttler.

 

[Justcrazy]

 

[Justcrazy]

This is what Butler can do

 

[leatherface58]

Lol MJ pace or without, is still rooobish

 

[Justcrazy]

England won by 3 wickets (with 3 balls remaining)

 

[Justcrazy]

Butler 65 no off 48 balls , match winning innings.

 

[Robert]

Played Mr Buttler!

 

[MarkCooper]

I hope Super Mitch comes back for the Ashes.

 

[MattyB]

Lol MJ pace or without, is still rooobish

As an Englishman it pains me to say it buy Johnson has improved a great deal. However he's not someone you want bowling at the end of a match. He's quick but he doesn't really move the ball a lot. At the beginning of an innings when batsmen are playing defensively then he can get on top of them with his pace and he does well. At the end of an innings when batsmen are going for it then the faster the ball goes onto the bat then usually the faster it goes off the bat, so he goes for runs.

Plus he's a confidence bowler. If he gets hit around then he gets demoralised and bowls worse and goes for more runs. So he's not someone you want bowling at the end of an innings.

I really hope the selectors don't see this result and assume that playing 2 frontline fast bowlers, an inexperienced all-rounder and a spinner and then making up the rest of the overs with part-timers is the way forward. The only reason we won was because we put them in to bat on a pitch that was doing alot at the start. If they had been chasing then we wouldn't have stood a chance.

Relying on getting a minimum of 10 overs every game from Bopara, Trott, Root etc. is a joke. There is no way that you can put pressure on a side in the middle overs when they know that they can biff Bopara and Tredwell around and all we can do is replace them with other part time bowlers who will again be lambs to the slaughter.