Exceptional English Batting Deserves Credit

[SamNJ]

Yes it was a flat track.
Yes Pakistani attack was inexperienced.
Still what England are doing, it takes exceptional level of skill and ability to execute the aggressive style of play they bring out so often.
England are levels above any other team in the world at the moment.
Their domestic system deserves credit for grooming batters in the mould of style their senior team's requirements.
Occasionally they will fail on spicy tracks but there is no guarantee that defense will survive on those tracks.
England is doing something really really good at grassroots to produce such batting talent.

 

[nextover666666]

Yes it was a flat track.
Yes Pakistani attack was inexperienced.
Still what England are doing, it takes exceptional level of skill and ability to execute the aggressive style of play they bring out so often.
England are levels above any other team in the world at the moment.
Their domestic system deserves credit for grooming batters in the mould of style their senior team's requirements.
Occasionally they will fail on spicy tracks but there is no guarantee that defense will survive on those tracks.
England is doing something really really good at grassroots to produce such batting talent.

Exactly spot on, Pakistan bowled really bad, but you cant take that away from England, all their batsman looked to attack and play their shots, they were never under preassure, and have produced something special

 

[aukhan]

Intent makes the difference. Well played England

 

[ElRaja]

never thought id see 6.5 rpo on the first day of a test series by an away team. they will revolutionise batting on placid tracks and eventually make everyone realise you need bowler-friendly pitches in tests.

ironically northern did the same (albeit at a significantly lower skill level) in QaE trophy and won, the warning signs have been flashing, the development in aggressive batting over the 10 years cricket was away form Pakistan renders traditional Pakistani pitches pointless.

if this is happening at rawalpindi, i shudder to think what will happen at multan.

 

[Ashmal]

Agreed....no other team would've scored 500 here.

Eng deserves all the credit

 

[hitthestump]

What England are doing is great for cricket. They keep taking steps forward while others are stood still.

You can't even say they are carried by a few exceptional batsman. Every single person who comes through their set up can smash a ball. How is that happening and why can't Pakistan produce even ONE England-esque batsman?

 

[ElRaja]

What England are doing is great for cricket. They keep taking steps forward while others are stood still.

You can't even say they are carried by a few exceptional batsman. Every single person who comes through their set up can smash a ball. How is that happening and why can't Pakistan produce even ONE England-esque batsman?

pak batsman are too scared of making mistakes, its a side effect of Pakistani society, in general no one likes to go against perceived wisdom and be wrong, much better to fail like everyone else. english players are a product of their cricketing culture, u encourage daring and accept the failure that comes with it.

 

[andy0204]

Wait till tomorrow for more action!

 

[MenInG]

 

[Robert]

What England are doing is great for cricket. They keep taking steps forward while others are stood still.

You can't even say they are carried by a few exceptional batsman. Every single person who comes through their set up can smash a ball. How is that happening and why can't Pakistan produce even ONE England-esque batsman?

Remember that eight months ago half the England top six was scared too. B-Mac has made all the difference. Pakistan need a modern Woolmer figure to get them playing fearlessly again.

 

[Mp812]

I thought half the English team was down with some viral bug? What kind of bug was that made them score so quick .? A sample of the bug is needed to do some research.

 

[malakian]

I still think that most of our batters are FTBs.

Put them in against a quality attack on a pitch that does a bit and they fall like flies.

 

[jnaveen1980]

I still think that most of our batters are FTBs.

Put them in against a quality attack on a pitch that does a bit and they fall like flies.

Against SA first test that is what happened. Then the flat tracks returned

 

[BreadPakoda]

Warner and co will show their own style of bazball when Pakistan tours down under for their next thrashathon

 

[jnaveen1980]

Warner and co will show their own style of bazball when Pakistan tours down under for their next thrashathon

Khawaja did good there

 

[TheSultan]

What I really respect about England’s approach was how they played with their own identity.

Australia came earlier this year and tried to play the tuk tuk way which was the presumed modus operandi in Pakistan.

England forgot about the past, played their way and well…..we’ve seen what’s happened.

I’m hoping some of the positivity rubs off on our batsmen. Give them some kind of complex for batting at their snail pace.

Australia’s approach almost vindicated how Pakistan bat, this hopefully might do something else

 

[hitthestump]

Remember that eight months ago half the England top six was scared too. B-Mac has made all the difference. Pakistan need a modern Woolmer figure to get them playing fearlessly again.

Pakistan don't have the personnel nor the fan base will allow this to develop.

The last world class aggressive batsman Pakistan produced was....a long time ago.

And our fan base is not patient enough to allow for failures or batsmen getting out to bad shots. Chop and change is always the solution when you're a Pakistani.

Hence we produce good batsmen but never great and everyone is always insecure about their own position.

 

[James]

I thought half the English team was down with some viral bug? What kind of bug was that made them score so quick .? A sample of the bug is needed to do some research.

I’ll have what they’re having!

 

[James]

I still think that most of our batters are FTBs.

Put them in against a quality attack on a pitch that does a bit and they fall like flies.

You’re probably correct there, as throughout the summer England were constantly collapsing and it was mainly Bairstow who popped up repeatedly to rescue them.

 

[Suleiman]

One question I have is, were these type of players always a part of the system and the philosophy of the intl team just didn’t accommodate them pre 2015 WC, or is this a new burst of new talent post 2015 never before seen in county etc that are now getting chances.

 

[Mamoon]

One question I have is, were these type of players always a part of the system and the philosophy of the intl team just didn’t accommodate them pre 2015 WC, or is this a new burst of new talent post 2015 never before seen in county etc that are now getting chances.

It is definitely the former. They scored 400+ in the first ODI they played after the 2015 World Cup.

Even in Tests, they are playing the same players. The difference between England & Pakistan is that they had the players in the system to change their style. Pakistan does not.

Pakistan has a talent crisis. It is showcased each year in the PSL.

 

[Mamoon]

Who would have thought 20 years back that England would be the most entertaining & exciting team in the world in the 2020s.

 

[jnaveen1980]

Pakistan don't have the personnel nor the fan base will allow this to develop.

The last world class aggressive batsman Pakistan produced was....a long time ago.

And our fan base is not patient enough to allow for failures or batsmen getting out to bad shots. Chop and change is always the solution when you're a Pakistani.

Hence we produce good batsmen but never great and everyone is always insecure about their own position.

Afridi probably would have enjoyed his career in this era. He will have a lot more people defending him in this era.

 

[Suleiman]

It is definitely the former. They scored 400+ in the first ODI they played after the 2015 World Cup.

Even in Tests, they are playing the same players. The difference between England & Pakistan is that they had the players in the system to change their style. Pakistan does not.

Pakistan has a talent crisis. It is showcased each year in the PSL.

We do. When you have a retiree who was an above average player in internationals dominating the charts in your t20 league, you know there’s a problem. Im talking about Luke Ronchi, Brad Haddin etc.

 

[shamaan]

Definitely deserves credit however they were helped by the pitch and the selection.