Fakhar Zaman first impressions in international cricket

[Saj]

Looks like a player who relies on bottom hand shots and has specific scoring zones. He needs to broaden that or he will get found out very quickly.

I thought he was trying to play too many fancy shots today instead of relying on the basics.

A lot of pressure on him and not easy of course but he looks a batsman who has potential but has work to do.

 

[Yatoo]

He bottled under pressure of hitting sixes

Maybe try him as opener
But i am not at all convinced by his playing style

 

[Anwar_194]

He is an opener.

 

[Ellipsism]

Not good enough.

The only thing he's capable of is clearing the front leg and hoicking it against the spinners.

His credentials against anything bowled in excess of 135 km/h aren't great either.

 

[Rana]

Looks pretty useless to me

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Looks like a player who relies on bottom hand shots and has specific scoring zones. He needs to broaden that or he will get found out very quickly.

I thought he was trying to play too many fancy shots today instead of relying on the basics.

A lot of pressure on him and not easy of course but he looks a batsman who has potential but has work to do.

Where did you come up with talent?

The worst to play for Pakistan in a long time.

Talentless and no power, considering this is one of the weakest attacks in world cricket.

 

[LordJames]

Looks like a player who relies on bottom hand shots and has specific scoring zones. He needs to broaden that or he will get found out very quickly.

I thought he was trying to play too many fancy shots today instead of relying on the basics.

A lot of pressure on him and not easy of course but he looks a batsman who has potential but has work to do.

A marginally better version of Awais Zia who will be slightly better as an opener due to field restrictions.

 

[Pete Rose]

Pakistans problems are at the top of the order and they will sacrifice a lot of youngsters if they keep this batting line up. Can't have a batting order with shehzad, Babar, Malik, and sarfaraz

 

[Square Drive]

Didn't look good but he's an opener and should open next game.

 

[Ellipsism]

It's a joke to compare Fakhar Zaman to Awais Zia.

Awais Zia is 3x the batsman Fakhar is.

 

[Abdullah719]

Only comfortable when bowlers bowl in his zone.... and that too when they aren't very pacy.

Not the answer to our limited overs batting woes but his best use in this team was as an opener, specially considering that the likes of Gabriel and Joseph aren't in this squad.

 

[LordJames]

It's a joke to compare Fakhar Zaman to Awais Zia.

Awais Zia is 3x the batsman Fakhar is.

You are calling Awais Zia a batsman?

 

[marlonbrowndo]

Lol I called it ages ago during that one day cup in 2015. Mediocre batsman. Those cricinfo experts who were calling for his inclusion should watch him bat first.

 

[Ellipsism]

You are calling Awais Zia a batsman?

Awais Zia can actually play deliveries bowled in excess of 135 km/h, Zaman on the other hand...

 

[in_cutter]

It's a joke to compare Fakhar Zaman to Awais Zia.

Awais Zia is 3x the batsman Fakhar is.

Awais is the worst 'batsman' I have seen at International level. A embarassment.

 

[LordJames]

He can field better than Awais Zia so an improved package.

 

[Rayyman]

Good catch to get the first WI wicket.

 

[SARJ_BD]

Fakhar is hopeless. He only know one shot. He has been ignored rightfully for a long time.

Time to look for another player. I do not think Fakhar is curable.

 

[arehaan]

Fakhar is very poor to say the least a mindless leg side hack but someone who can field better than most.

 

[Hamza_]

I hope he is dropped for good.

 

[Pete Rose]

I don't fault him. Early days, but his last domestic tournament he played one down every match

 

[Syed1]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

 

[bleaf27]

Didn't see much of him but fielding was certainly good

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

Lol, comparing Sharjeel to Fakhar.

 

[Pete Rose]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

He plays one-down (at least that's what he did in the departmental odi cup). But agree ,point is that he should bat higher not Lower

 

[Ellipsism]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

Sharjeel had timing to go with his batting and hand the capability to play express bowling.

Zaman is a talentless hack.

 

[ethan hunt]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

Sharjeel was never a hack .
He was a genuinely talented ball striker with freak reflexes.
Anyone who called him a hack knows zilch .
No wonder he was dropped instead of being worked on . Management and selectors are clueless.

 

[Hamza_]

He is an opener who is being sent out at 5 or 6.


I would like to see what the people who are writing off Zaman had to say when Sharjeel first came on the scene, because even the latter seemed like a leg-side hack but improved along the way. Why isn't the same luxury afforded to Zaman?

Sharjeel atleast played shots on the leg side though always had offside game and was strong square of the wicket on offside

All this guy can do is to hope for the best at cow corner.

 

[Syed1]

Lol, comparing Sharjeel to Fakhar.

Yeah a leg-side hack with a leg-side hack. That's how comparisons are made.

 

[PakHammer]

Looks awful to me, one legside shot. Even that 6 he got looked like it was going to be out. Give him a chance opening tomorrow instead of Shezhed though. The series should end 2-2 as both teams are not great and will be eaten alive by the gun international teams.

 

[Syed1]

Sharjeel atleast played shots on the leg side though always had offside game and was strong square of the wicket on offside

All this guy can do is to hope for the best at cow corner.

And you made that assessment after watching one game?


No wonder Pakistan is in the dumps. Fakhar Zaman has the best numbers in domestics, he has been doing much better than any Tom, Dick or Harry these "experts" through up. I'd much rather trust numbers and stats than keyboard experts.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Even sohaib maqsood even though is in the worst form of his life looks better than Fakhar.

Hopefully it is just nerves, and he improves with time. Because man he looked like a tail ender.

 

[Hamza_]

And you made that assessment after watching one game?


No wonder Pakistan is in the dumps. Fakhar Zaman has the best numbers in domestics, he has been doing much better than any Tom, Dick or Harry these "experts" through up. I'd much rather trust numbers and stats than keyboard experts.

I've also watched him bat in domestic tournaments and PSL. FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

 

[Ellipsism]

And you made that assessment after watching one game?


No wonder Pakistan is in the dumps. Fakhar Zaman has the best numbers in domestics, he has been doing much better than any Tom, Dick or Harry these "experts" through up. I'd much rather trust numbers and stats than keyboard experts.

Fakhar Zaman relies heavily on clearing his front leg which doesn't allow him to access the ball.

The stance at which he stands doesn't allow him to bring down his bat at an angle that would allow for him to play shots on the offside.

I can go on but I think you get the picture.

And this assessment was made after seeing him play for KPK and HBL.

 

[Hawkeye]

Yeah a leg-side hack with a leg-side hack. That's how comparisons are made.

Sometimes, it's just better to accept you were wrong instead of making such hilarious statements.

Going defensive is only showing your lack of insight.

 

[TahirFan]

First impressions is a slogger who plays ugly agricultural shots.

 

[Syed1]

Sometimes, it's just better to accept you were wrong instead of making such hilarious statements.

Going defensive is only showing your lack of insight.

Sharjeel Khan = leg-side hack who improved his game after being exposed to international cricket

Fakhar Zam = leg-side hack who is being crucified after one or two games and not allowed to showcase his talent which has caused him to stack up amazing numbers in domestics and PSL.


Comparing apples with apples.



Also I'd much rather hedge my bets and support Fakhar Zaman than Umar and Kamran Akmal like you.

 

[Ellipsism]

Sharjeel Khan = leg-side hack who improved his game after being exposed to international cricket

Fakhar Zam = leg-side hack who is being crucified after one or two games and not allowed to showcase his talent which has caused him to stack up amazing numbers in domestics and PSL.


Comparing apples with apples.



Also I'd much rather hedge my bets and support Fakhar Zaman than Umar and Kamran Akmal like you.

Your again displaying how much you know about batting.

Sharjeel had timing and the capability to play pace.

You can change Fakhar's technique all you want but it isn't going to help him when he's facing pace bowlers as he simply doesn't have the reflexes.

 

[Syed1]

Your again displaying how much you know about batting.

Sharjeel had timing and the capability to play pace.

You can change Fakhar's technique all you want but it isn't going to help him when he's facing pace bowlers as he simply doesn't have the reflexes.

Disregarding the personal attacks.


Maybe you were two young to know when Sharjeel first came on the scene and he looked equally as unimpressive as Zaman and was infact dropped even after scoring a 50, because he looked like an A-grade hack.

 

[Ellipsism]

Disregarding the personal attacks.


Maybe you were two young to know when Sharjeel first came on the scene and he looked equally as unimpressive as Zaman and was infact dropped even after scoring a 50, because he looked like an A-grade hack.

The potential was always there within him it just needed to be unlocked.

It seems you can't tell a prospect even if it slapped you on the face.

 

[Hamza_]

Disregarding the personal attacks.


Maybe you were two young to know when Sharjeel first came on the scene and he looked equally as unimpressive as Zaman and was infact dropped even after scoring a 50, because he looked like an A-grade hack.

Sharjeel got out to soft dismissals and sort of poor shot selection. I've seen Sharjeel's career pass from 2011 including his debut match, Zaman looks nowhere the caliber of Sharjeel.

However I don't see a point in arguing with you, Because you're not going to accept it.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

Harsh on him,firstly he was played at number 6 whereas actually he is a opener and then judging him on basis of 2 matches, play him as an opener and then see what he is capable of.

 

[Hawkeye]

Disregarding the personal attacks.


Maybe you were two young to know when Sharjeel first came on the scene and he looked equally as unimpressive as Zaman and was infact dropped even after scoring a 50, because he looked like an A-grade hack.

Sharjeel when came on to the scene was mighty impressive, and not a legside hack.

Why speaking such drivel?

Just because you lacked the ability to judge him, or any batsman for that matter, doesn't mean everyone thought he's a legside hack.

He was the perfect top order batsman from the start, matching Warner.

 

[Abdullah719]

And you made that assessment after watching one game?


No wonder Pakistan is in the dumps. Fakhar Zaman has the best numbers in domestics, he has been doing much better than any Tom, Dick or Harry these "experts" through up. I'd much rather trust numbers and stats than keyboard experts.

Numbers and stats aren't the be all and end all either.

Fakhar will get more chances and rightfully so but we know that limited players like Fawad can succeed and score at a good rate in domestic cricket, despite their extreme short-comings which render them unsuccessful on the international stage.

 

[Syed1]

The potential was always there within him it just needed to be unlocked.

It seems you can't tell a prospect even if it slapped you on the face.

Yes this is an Xbox game where achievements needed to be unlocked.

Sharjeel was raking up the runs in domestics but once he first came on the international scene he didn't do so well. Fakhar is going through the same at the moment, now whether he improves like Sharjeel or not is upto him. I have a problem with people crucifying him after two games in which he was sent at an unnatural position in his debut series.

 

[Hawkeye]

Numbers and stats aren't the be all and end all either.

Fakhar will get more chances and rightfully so but we know that limited players like Fawad can succeed and score at a good rate in domestic cricket, despite their extreme short-comings which render them unsuccessful on the international stage.

Fawad scores at decent rate in internationals too - in 80s.

But has the same one dimensional problem like Sarfraz and Malik. Can't accelerate or take on pacers.

 

[Ellipsism]

Yes this is an Xbox game where achievements needed to be unlocked.

Sharjeel was raking up the runs in domestics but once he first came on the international scene he didn't do so well. Fakhar is going through the same at the moment, now whether he improves like Sharjeel or not is upto him. I have a problem with people crucifying him after two games in which he was sent at an unnatural position in his debut series.

I'll dumb it down for you.

Sharjeel always had it in him.

Fakhar doesn't. Why? I think I've repeated myself enough.

 

[Markhor]

I don't just blame the player, what are the domestic coaches doing ? His technique has regressed alarmingly in the last few years. Do they not see these flaws ?

His technique is not sustainable for internationals - look at that crouched stance, over-reliance on bottom hand and footwork. He is too dependent on the midwicket area for his runs - any captain will figure out quickly how to shut him down.

 

[PakLFC]

The boy seems to be very one dimensional with the bat. Not seeing much in him at the moment.

 

[asfandyar]

There are two types of doubters on this thread

1. The first kind will make themselves scarce when Fakhar plays a wonderful knock, and is praised by internationally acclaimed commentators compared to these keyboard warriors with a bigoted tendency to support pretty, ineffective ballet dancers (Umar Amin et al) over ugly but effective players.

2. The second kind will obstinately hold on to their views. And when Fakhar finally hangs his boots averaging 40+ at 90+SR in ODIs, they will still make fools out of themselves by taking sighs of relief. This species also includes other PPers who consider players like Kallis, Amla, Taylor and Sangakarra, mediocre ODI players.

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

This is my Yesterday's Post from Danish Aziz thread :


With Opening like pakistanigoneaussie or Pete Rose (not sure) my vote is with Shahzaib Hasan Khan because he is dynamic and more proficient against pace with Shots all round the ground and a combination of Ave & SR which is need of modern day Cricket. If he doesn't get cleared than I will stick with Fakhar whose numbers have improved in last 4 years but his game against pace especially his offside play has declined. This is due to poor coaching and poor drills. He dominated Irfan in his peak in 2013, at that time he neither had this ugly crouch nor this too much Bottom hand dependence which has regressed and limited his offside play. Still because he is top performer so he needs a Go in Int Cricket on Merit. Syed1


As far as future is concerned my vote is with these three guys (Read Post number 89)

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...eams-Cup/page2 - See more at:



http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Aziz-Performance-Watch&p=9169013#post9169013

 

[LordJames]

There are two types of doubters on this thread

1. The first kind will make themselves scarce when Fakhar plays a wonderful knock, and is praised by internationally acclaimed commentators compared to these keyboard warriors with a bigoted tendency to support pretty, ineffective ballet dancers (Umar Amin et al) over ugly but effective players.

2. The second kind will obstinately hold on to their views. And when Fakhar finally hangs his boots averaging 40+ at 90+SR in ODIs, they will still make fools out of themselves by taking sighs of relief. This species also includes other PPers who consider players like Kallis, Amla, Taylor and Sangakarra, mediocre ODI players.

If he works hard and learns to play on both sides of the wicket I will be glad for the sake of Pakistan Cricket. Yes, he will score once in a while because every dog has its day but this is NOT the opener Pakistan has been looking for.

He is just a slightly better version of Awais Zia but no Messiah by any stretch of imagination.

Sharjeel was way better from day one with clean striking and ability to clear the fence, no comparison to this guy at all.

 

[asfandyar]

If he works hard and learns to play on both sides of the wicket I will be glad for the sake of Pakistan Cricket. Yes, he will score once in a while because every dog has its day but this is NOT the opener Pakistan has been looking for.

He is just a slightly better version of Awais Zia but no Messiah by any stretch of imagination.

Sharjeel was way better from day one with clean striking and ability to clear the fence, no comparison to this guy at all.

Give him 20 games, with 50% games in UAE and if he fails, discard by all means. I have seen enough of him to place a wager that he can be one of the architects of our Limited Overs Renaissance.

 

[asfandyar]

If he works hard and learns to play on both sides of the wicket I will be glad for the sake of Pakistan Cricket. Yes, he will score once in a while because every dog has its day but this is NOT the opener Pakistan has been looking for.

He is just a slightly better version of Awais Zia but no Messiah by any stretch of imagination.

Sharjeel was way better from day one with clean striking and ability to clear the fence, no comparison to this guy at all.

Moreover, can you place name alternatives? Who should come in for Fakhar?

 

[Hamza_]

This is my Yesterday's Post from Danish Aziz thread :


With Opening like pakistanigoneaussie or Pete Rose (not sure) my vote is with Shahzaib Hasan Khan because he is dynamic and more proficient against pace with Shots all round the ground and a combination of Ave & SR which is need of modern day Cricket. If he doesn't get cleared than I will stick with Fakhar whose numbers have improved in last 4 years but his game against pace especially his offside play has declined. This is due to poor coaching and poor drills. He dominated Irfan in his peak in 2013, at that time he neither had this ugly crouch nor this too much Bottom hand dependence which has regressed and limited his offside play. Still because he is top performer so he needs a Go in Int Cricket on Merit. Syed1


As far as future is concerned my vote is with these three guys (Read Post number 89)

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/sh...eams-Cup/page2 - See more at:



http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...-Aziz-Performance-Watch&p=9169013#post9169013

I have never seen Rafay or Zeeshan Malik play.

But Ahsan Ali is average, Shahzaib Hasan will be cleared I think however he had a bad PSL.

 

[LordJames]

Give him 20 games, with 50% games in UAE and if he fails, discard by all means. I have seen enough of him to place a wager that he can be one of the architects of our Limited Overs Renaissance.

This was a slow low pitch and there were no serious pacers in sight, what makes you think that he will prosper against better sides in UAE?

 

[KingKhanWC]

He'd make a good lumberjack.

 

[asfandyar]

This was a slow low pitch and there were no serious pacers in sight, what makes you think that he will prosper against better sides in UAE?

He was your third highest scorer in the match. That said, it was a nervous performance by him. My rationale for 50% games in UAE was not only due to the pitches, but also the atmosphere. UAE, especially the cricket stadiums have a Pakistan like environment which can be conducive to newly bled talent, with intermittent exposure to foreign tours to acclimatize.

 

[Langau]

After watching fakhar's batting i can say that chacha rafatullah is a world class batsmen

 

[ask_analyse_act]

he was an opener , play him as an opener and then decide... asking him to bat at no.5 in a t20 to decide is not fair..

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I have never seen Rafay or Zeeshan Malik play.

But Ahsan Ali is average, Shahzaib Hasan will be cleared I think however he had a bad PSL.

Why?

 

[dildildalwalla]

Zaman should really be top 3. No idea which part of the think tank is throwing him down at 6. smh

 

[Hamza_]

Why?

I saw his batting videos.

Was struggling big time against left armers and short stuff.

 

[Sherlock]

Why are people surprised?

Didn't you witness the complete and utter leg-side hack in the PSL, or were you watching a different player?

 

[ExplicitAI]

I've always said that this guy was terrible, people kept foaming in the mouth and were talking as if he was the next Tendulkar.

 

[the Great Khan]

err how about we give him a chance to improve himself? first people complain youngsters dont get a chance, then when they do they get crucified after two matches..you cant have it both ways..give the kid a chance..

 

[Chief Destroyer]

I saw his batting videos.

Was struggling big time against left armers and short stuff.

Talking about the 85?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

err how about we give him a chance to improve himself? first people complain youngsters dont get a chance, then when they do they get crucified after two matches..you cant have it both ways..give the kid a chance..

There is no talent here, makes no sense to given a chance again.He shouldn't be in the team in the first place... give another youngster a chance.

 

[the Great Khan]

There is no talent here, makes no sense to given a chance again.He shouldn't be in the team in the first place... give another youngster a chance.

after two matches? some of you bachay need to chill out a bit..I saw enough to give him some more chances..you dont destroy youngsters by dropping them after two matches..ridiculous nonsense!! if it was upto the bacha party on pp we would have a new team every other match!!

 

[Hamza_]

Talking about the 85?

That UBL match video.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

after two matches? some of you bachay need to chill out a bit..I saw enough to give him some more chances..you dont destroy youngsters by dropping them after two matches..ridiculous nonsense!! if it was upto the bacha party on pp we would have a new team every other match!!

Share with us what you saw..... I can do with a good laugh.

 

[Hamza_]

Share with us what you saw..... I can do with a good laugh.

Ek taang wicket ke iss paar doosri uss par baaki Allah Maaliq

 

[Chief Destroyer]

That UBL match video.

It was Raees bowling. He was treating him like a trundler. Just played a silly shot. He's well capable of placing it towards mid-off and covers region. He's at his best when he does so. And the mistimed pull shot was due to lack of pace. He's very confident square of the wicket on both sides, that's something you'll notice the more you see him.

However, he does have a problem of being too casual. He hasn't quite identified his strong and weak zones, nor the art of run scoring. He's going to be a handful when he does.

 

[Hamza_]

It was Raees bowling. He was treating him like a trundler. Just played a silly shot. He's well capable of placing it towards mid-off and covers region. He's at his best when he does so. And the mistimed pull shot was due to lack of pace. He's very confident square of the wicket on both sides, that's something you'll notice the more you see him.

However, he does have a problem of being too casual. He hasn't quite identified his strong and weak zones, nor the art of run scoring. He's going to be a handful when he does.

He is already 23 years of age. I don't think he is selected for Pakistan Cup either? What is he doing these days though?

 

[Rayyman]

Yea, he's not the easiest on the eye; But the haters are making it seem like he bats worse than Chris Martin. I say give him a few games and opener and see how he does. Base your opinion on that. Not to forget, his domestic statistics are very good. Whoever here is a real "fan" should be hoping that he performs well for Pakistan.

 

[Hamza_]

Indeed his cover drives are glorious (hitted one over cover for six), But to get selected he needed to score runs which he hasn't been able to, I'm sure if a cow corner bully like Fakhar Zaman can get selected then this guy would have been on the radar if he had scored some runs.
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

 

[Hamza_]

Yea, he's not the easiest on the eye; But the haters are making it seem like he bats worse than Chris Martin. I say give him a few games and opener and see how he does. Base your opinion on that. Not to forget, his domestic statistics are very good. Whoever here is a real "fan" should be hoping that he performs well for Pakistan.

Yes, He should open in next came considering Shehzad is not doing anything substantial either.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

He is already 23 years of age. I don't think he is selected for Pakistan Cup either? What is he doing these days though?

Which is unfortunate. I'm not sure, probably playing Grade 2. Haven't been following.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Indeed his cover drives are glorious (hitted one over cover for six), But to get selected he needed to score runs which he hasn't been able to, I'm sure if a cow corner bully like Fakhar Zaman can get selected then this guy would have been on the radar if he had scored some runs.
[MENTION=141557]Chief Destroyer[/MENTION]

He's real classy. You'll like Rafay as well. Zeeshan isn't as great a timer as these two but understands his game well.

 

[Hamza_]

Which is unfortunate. I'm not sure, probably playing Grade 2. Haven't been following.

If he gets his cap by 24 or late 23, That'll still be good for him. However for that needs to score runs for a change and dominate.