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Fakhar Zaman walked off after nicking one to the wicketkeeper during Pakistan's Asia Cup game against India on Sunday.

On Sunday, the high-intensity clash between India and Pakistan in Dubai witnessed remarkable scenes when Fakhar Zaman walked off after edging a catch to the wicketkeeper off the final over of the Powerplay.

Pakistan were put in to bat first by Rohit Sharma and Bhuvneshwar Kumar had given India an early breakthrough with the wicket of Babar Azam.

Pakistan were struggling to go big in the first six overs when Avesh Khan came in to bowl the last over of the Powerplay.

Mohammad Rizwan, who was on nine off 17 balls at that point, took the pacer on for a six and a four off successive deliveries, but the momentum shifted again in the over when Zaman edged one to the wicketkeeper off the penultimate ball.

While there was little to no appeal from the Indians, Zaman started walking off, prompting the umpire to raise his fingers. He was dismissed for 10 off 6 deliveries.

The off-field camaraderie between India and Pakistan players translated onto the field with the sporting gesture from Zaman.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/2766816
 
He didn't want to deal with the pressure of an India Pakistan game. Fakhar hasn't really progressed much since his debut in 2017
 
His iman got the better of him and rightly so. Imagine if it was shown that he knicked it and remained at the crease .

Cricket is his job , and I would like to think that all of us on this forum would not cheat in their respective jobs so why would he.

Had he walked and it wasn’t out that would be a completely different situation.
 
Savak said:
He didn't want to deal with the pressure of an India Pakistan game. Fakhar hasn't really progressed much since his debut in 2017
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So if he doesn’t walk he’s a cheater and if he walks he don’t want the heat? Absurd or what .

He’s usually delivered in big games for Pak , check his records in semi finals and finals for Pakistan .
 
Dumb move in the context of the match. Had it been even reviewed that time wastage gives your own captain some leverage aswell.

To be fair, fakhar seems to be very disinterested now adays in cricket. I saw his training vids and he wasnt really putting that much effort and has become laid back. Maybe he was always like this i guess.

As for walkers, i used to praise gilchrist for it, but when your team mate does it in a crucial moment, it really bothers you while the opposition can sit and praise.

Long story short, fakhar probably felt jealous of his team mates winning icc awards so he decided to grab the spirit of cricket award :)). Icc you owe us the spirit of cricket award now
 
I feel he should have let the umpires do their job.

I am not a fan of walking off.
 
It was a typical sloggers attitude. They would rather walk off when the big ones dry up. Idiot!
 
Savak said:
He didn't want to deal with the pressure of an India Pakistan game. Fakhar hasn't really progressed much since his debut in 2017
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?

I guess that was Khushdil hitting those sixes against Starc in the semi final?
 
Reminds me of what Kohli did against Amir in the WC match when he started walking before being given out, only to find out later on he wasn't even out. In Fakhar's case, he was out and I guess its good sportsmanship to do that but it would have been much wiser to simply stay. It didn't seem like the umpire was going to give him out, the players hardly appealed and they had lost a review just earlier.

A shame really because Fakhar batting a bit longer could have completed changed Pakistan's innings & tempo.
 
It's the job of the opposition to appeal. You have to be relentless if you want to win. Look at other sports for reference. Rizwan could've gotten Pakistan to a decent score had Fakhar been there to support him. Pakistan made a lot of mistakes this match I hope they don't repete
 
Nasty Naz said:
Reminds me of what Kohli did against Amir in the WC match when he started walking before being given out, only to find out later on he wasn't even out. In Fakhar's case, he was out and I guess its good sportsmanship to do that but it would have been much wiser to simply stay. It didn't seem like the umpire was going to give him out, the players hardly appealed and they had lost a review just earlier.

A shame really because Fakhar batting a bit longer could have completed changed Pakistan's innings & tempo.
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Fakhar looked like he was in for a big one. Shame we didn't get to see him bat longer.
 
It's the umpires job to give it out after the fielding team has appealed. This not a matter of honesty or dishonesty.

The rules are simple. An umpire will only give out if the fielding team appeals.

If they don't appeal, he has no obligation to walk.
 
Savak said:
He didn't want to deal with the pressure of an India Pakistan game. Fakhar hasn't really progressed much since his debut in 2017
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Shows how much you watch cricket if you think Fakhar hasn’t progressed much or played good innings since his debut.

He’s played lots of clutch innings in important matches.
 
He thought it was apparent to everyone that he'd nicked it. He didn't even look up before he started walking. When he did look up and realized what was happening, he did a bit of a stutter but by then it was too late and India would've reviewed had he stopped walking.
 
Not many would have done what he did today, especially as he could have got away with it.

I'd put it in the good sportsmanship bracket.
 
He shouldn't have walked off. Wait for umpire's decision.

It is for umpire to give it out or not out.
 
A player walking off knowing he has knicked it is an individual decision, Their are batsmen who would do it and others who wouldn't. I respect those who do it
 
Walking off is in the make up of some players.
Those that walk, it's just a natural thing for them to do.
You nick it, you know you're out, you walk.

On the other hand others don't and that's fine too.

There is no wrong or right in this
 
Very noble and humble of him. On the other hand, if he hadn't, fans would have taken it too far from the opposition side. That's added extra pressure and baggage for no reason.

I believe Gilchrist also did it during a final or semi-final? I always admired those who walks knowing they are out ... compared to those who don't.
 
Why do I get the feeling he was struggling out in the middle which helped the walking off decision?

I can't comment on his intentions, but this was too fast.
 
Third Man said:
He thought it was apparent to everyone that he'd nicked it. He didn't even look up before he started walking. When he did look up and realized what was happening, he did a bit of a stutter but by then it was too late and India would've reviewed had he stopped walking.
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This is what i thought. He walked off so quickly it seemed instinctive rather than a humble decision that he had thought through.

Zaman has been a little ditzy in the past (run out vs SA) so i wouldn't rule out a complete brainfade on this occasion.
 
Corridor of Uncertainty said:
Why do I get the feeling he was struggling out in the middle which helped the walking off decision?

I can't comment on his intentions, but this was too fast.
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He had 10 of 6 balls he was not struggling . But it was a clear nick for him as he is the nearest to the ball. For the others it was difficult due to the noise .
 
Reminds me of Tendulkar walking off to Akhtar in 2006 down the leg side. There are days when you just don't have the stomach to face a difficult period of fast bowling or be out there in a pressure game.
 
Third Man said:
He thought it was apparent to everyone that he'd nicked it. He didn't even look up before he started walking. When he did look up and realized what was happening, he did a bit of a stutter but by then it was too late and India would've reviewed had he stopped walking.
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This.

He should put a bigger price on his wicket - with that mindset, he wouldn't set off until he sees the umpires finger go up.
 
Rules of cricket almost says that if you want a wicket, you have to appeal. If you don't appeal, you don't deserve the wicket. Onus is on opposition to appeal. Umpire can't give out if fielding team doesn't appeal.


It's ok to walk if opposition has appealed and umpire has given not out.

It's ok, not to walk if opposition has appealed and umpire has given not out. Onus is fielding team to review. If no reviews left, then it's their mistake.

It's not ok to walk if opposition has not appealed.

That's personal opinion.
 
Good sportsman spirit but that thing is overrated.. shouldn't have walked off..
 
I feel there is no need.

The umpires have all the tools at their disposal to make the right decision.

Your job as a Pakistan player is to stay there as long as possible.

This is not a personal decision but effect the team.

Who knows if that dismissal cost us the game?
 
MenInG said:
I feel there is no need.

The umpires have all the tools at their disposal to make the right decision.

Your job as a Pakistan player is to stay there as long as possible.

This is not a personal decision but effect the team.

Who knows if that dismissal cost us the game?
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What if that had been reviewed and he didn’t walk? It was a pretty big nick on the replay and not even a 50-50 decision?

That would make him look bad.

He did the right thing here because it was way too obvious and there is too much technology around. He actually used game awareness and credit where due has integrity as well.

It’s silly to even discuss this as a focal point.
 
Local.Dada said:
What if that had been reviewed and he didn’t walk? It was a pretty big nick on the replay and not even a 50-50 decision?

That would make him look bad.

He did the right thing here because it was way too obvious and there is too much technology around. He actually used game awareness and credit where due has integrity as well.

It’s silly to even discuss this as a focal point.
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There was no appeal. There wouldn't have been a review.
 
Marooned said:
There was no appeal. There wouldn't have been a review.
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There was no appeal because it was obvious. Only the bowler didn’t hear it. DK was walking like it was obvious. Look at his expression. Also I am not sure why Pakistanis are criticizing Fakhar though. If it was a 50-50 call like Kohli in WC 2019 then you guys have a point but this is as obvious as it gets that there was a huge nick. This is like cheering for Afridi to bite the ball all over again.

Respect for Fakhar through but I think it was so obvious that it was just instinct on his part to start walking
 
Local.Dada said:
There was no appeal because it was obvious. Only the bowler didn’t hear it. DK was walking like it was obvious. Look at his expression. Also I am not sure why Pakistanis are criticizing Fakhar though. If it was a 50-50 call like Kohli in WC 2019 then you guys have a point but this is as obvious as it gets that there was a huge nick. This is like cheering for Afridi to bite the ball all over again.

Respect for Fakhar through but I think it was so obvious that it was just instinct on his part to start walking
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No, that's not what it was.

The obvious reaction is celebration and there was none from no one. DK walked because it was end of over.
No one knew anything, the fielders, the commentators, the umpire didn't raise his finger.
 
At least Zaman nicked and walked off.

Kohli walked off in WC/CT game (not sure which) without even nicking because of Amir's appeal. :virat1
 
Marooned said:
There was no appeal. There wouldn't have been a review.
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Umpires don't raise fingers without an appeal even if the batsman is walking off. DK thought it was obvious but when he saw bowler didn't appeal, he raised his hand to appeal and then umpires raised his finger. In fact in replay they showed Avesh was surprised and said he didn't hear a thing.

It was obvious for DK, Fakhar and umpire.
 
Local.Dada said:
What if that had been reviewed and he didn’t walk? It was a pretty big nick on the replay and not even a 50-50 decision?

That would make him look bad.

He did the right thing here because it was way too obvious and there is too much technology around. He actually used game awareness and credit where due has integrity as well.

It’s silly to even discuss this as a focal point.
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Cricfan4eva said:
Umpires don't raise fingers without an appeal even if the batsman is walking off. DK thought it was obvious but when he saw bowler didn't appeal, he raised his hand to appeal and then umpires raised his finger. In fact in replay they showed Avesh was surprised and said he didn't hear a thing.

It was obvious for DK, Fakhar and umpire.
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Umpire only raised finger after he walked off..
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As i see it could be a religious thing - Cheating is forbidden in Islam, so maybe when he knew he nicked he walked off? Otherwise doesnt make sense - he should have had India review it.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Umpires don't raise fingers without an appeal even if the batsman is walking off. DK thought it was obvious but when he saw bowler didn't appeal, he raised his hand to appeal and then umpires raised his finger. In fact in replay they showed Avesh was surprised and said he didn't hear a thing.

It was obvious for DK, Fakhar and umpire.
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Well, no.

Umpire raised finger only after Fakhar walked. If DK thought it was "obvious" there would've been celebration, there was none. He just started to routinely walk as it was end of over.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hats off to <a href="https://twitter.com/FakharZamanLive?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@FakharZamanLive</a> for waking off after a nick in a loud stadium when no one heard it. How many would do that specially in such a high profile game? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PakVsInd?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PakVsInd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AsiaCup2022?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AsiaCup2022</a></p>— Sana Mir ثناء میر (@mir_sana05) <a href="https://twitter.com/mir_sana05/status/1563901254983733251?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
No one has courage to do what he did in high profile match.

Surprised to see people blaming him and accusing of running away from the pressure game.

Fakhar is a true gentleman, and this move has just elevated his reputation in cricketing world.
 
Guess if India had appealed, he would have been given out

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Pakistan batsmen not walking

Even after getting bowled they've all been either shellshocked staring at the crease or slumped in a squat.

All rather absurd. What's that all about?.
 
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