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ROME (AP) — A wooden boat crowded with migrants smashed into rocky reefs and broke apart before dawn Sunday off the Italian coast, authorities said. Rescuers recovered nearly 60 bodies, and dozens more people were missing in the rough waters.

Officials feared the death toll could top 100 since some survivors indicated the boat had as many as 200 passengers when it set out from Turkey, United Nations refugee and migration agencies said.

At least 80 people were found alive, including some who reached the shore after the shipwreck just off Calabria's coastline along the Ionian Sea, the Italian Coast Guard said. One of the agency's motorboats rescued two men suffering from hypothermia and recovered the body of a boy.

As sundown approached, firefighters said 59 bodies had been found.

One man was taken into custody for questioning after fellow survivors indicated he was a trafficker, state TV said.

The boat collided with the reefs in rough, wind-whipped seas. Three big chunks of the vessel ended up on the beach near the town of Steccato di Cutro, where splintered pieces of bright blue wood littered the sand like matchsticks.

“All of the survivors are adults,″ Red Cross volunteer Ignazio Mangione said. ”Unfortunately, all the children are among the missing or were found dead on the beach.” A baby was reported among the dead.

Motorboats were expected to continue searching through the night, despite worsening weather conditions. Rescue divers struggled with tall waves.

Italian state TV quoted survivors as saying the boat had set out five days earlier from Turkey.

Standing next to the wreckage on the beach, a reporter for Italian RAI state TV noted a life preserver bearing the word “Smyrna,” a Turkish port also known as Izmir.

More than 170 migrants were estimated to have been aboard the ship, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Organization for Migration said in a joint statement.

Among them were "children and entire families,'' according to the U.N. statement, with most of the passengers from Afghanistan, Pakistan and Somalia.

Earlier, in an indication of the difficulty in establishing how many passengers had set out on the voyage, Italian Premier Giorgia Meloni said some 200 people had been crowded into a 20-meter (66-foot) boat.

The rescue operation involved a helicopter and police aircraft, as well as vessels from state firefighter squads, the Coast Guard and border police. Local fishermen also joined in the search.

The bodies were brought to the sports stadium in the nearest city, Crotone. A local priest said he blessed many of them while they were still lying on the beach.

Many of the survivors, wrapped in blankets and quilts, were taken by bus to a temporary shelter. State TV said 22 survivors were taken to a hospital.

Pope Francis told the faithful in St. Peter's Square that he was praying for the dead, the missing and the survivors. He added he also was praying for the rescuers “and for those who give welcome” to the migrants.

“It's an enormous tragedy,” Crotone Mayor Vincenzo Voce told RAI. “In solidarity, the city will find places in the cemetery” for the dead.

In 2022, some 105,000 migrants arrived on Italian shores, some 38,000 more than in 2021, according to Interior Ministry figures.

According to U.N. figures, arrivals from the Turkish route accounted for 15% of the total number, with nearly half of those fleeing from Afghanistan.

In a statement released by the premier’s office Sunday, Meloni expressed “her deep sorrow for the many human lives torn away by human traffickers.”

“It’s inhumane to exchange the lives of men, women and children for the ‘price’ of a ticket paid by them in the false prospect for a safe voyage,” said Meloni, a far-right leader whose governing allies include the anti-migrant League party.

She vowed to crack down on departures arranged by human smugglers and to press fellow European Union leaders to help.

Opposition parties pointed to Sunday’s tragedy as proof of the flaws in Italy’s migration policy.

“Condemning only the smugglers, as the center-right is doing now, is hypocrisy,″ said Laura Ferrara, a European Parliament lawmaker from the populist 5-Star Movement.

“The truth is that the EU today doesn’t offer effective alternatives for those who are forced to abandon their country of origin,″ Ferrara said in a statement.

Another route employed by traffickers crosses the central Mediterranean Sea from Libya's coast, where migrants often endure brutal detention conditions for months before they are allowed to board rubber dinghies or aging wooden fishing boats for Italian shores. The route is considered one of the deadliest.

Meloni's government has concentrated on complicating efforts by humanitarian boats to make multiple rescues in the central Mediterranean by assigning them ports of disembarkation along Italy's northern coasts, meaning the vessels need more time to return to the sea after bringing those rescued aboard, often hundreds of migrants, safely to shore.

Humanitarian organizations have lamented that the crackdown also includes an order to the charity boats not to remain at sea after the first rescue operation in hopes of performing other rescues, but to head immediately to their assigned port of safety. Violators face stiff fines and confiscation of the rescue vessel.

Italian President Sergio Mattarella called on the European Union to "finally concretely assume the responsibility of managing the migratory phenomenon to remove it from the traffickers of human beings.'' He said the EU should support development in countries where young people who see no future decide to risk dangerous sea journeys.

Italy has complained bitterly for years that fellow EU countries have balked at taking in some of the arrivals, many of whom are aiming to find family or work in northern Europe.

AP
 
Tragic, people fleeing for a better life die in such a way.

Where are the loving , caring , bombing regimes into democracy west? Surely if they helped destroyed a nation like Afghanistan, they should care enough to let everyone in?
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The reports of the drowning of over two dozen Pakistanis in a boat tragedy in Italy are deeply concerning & worrisome. I have directed Foreign Office to ascertain facts as early as possible & take the nation into confidence.</p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1630062365449363457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2023</a></blockquote>
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I saw Pakistani IDs of those who drowned and most belonged to Gujrat. My heart really goes out to the families who have lost their loved ones.
 
In the game of elites the poor suffer the consequences. Kashmir banega Pakistan. But when will Pakistan become Pakistan. Armed uprising or escape. Only two options left.
 
In the game of elites the poor suffer the consequences. Kashmir banega Pakistan. But when will Pakistan become Pakistan. Armed uprising or escape. Only two options left.

People prefer to die than to live in this country. What a sad reality! When will the citizens on this country sleep with a full stomach?
 
So tragic, RIP to all that did not make it. A close friend of mine is from Iran, he came here when he was 10 years old on a boat, he told he had to watch people die on the boat and the bodies would just be thrown into the water. The effort people go through so they can have a chance in life.
 
People prefer to die than to live in this country. What a sad reality! When will the citizens on this country sleep with a full stomach?

If they can afford to pay traffickers my guess is they could afford to eat if that was really what they wanted.
 
Foreign Office (FO) Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch on Monday confirmed that 16 Pakistani survivors seemed to be in “good physical condition” after a wooden sailing boat carrying migrants crashed against rocks on the southern Italian coast over the weekend.

The vessel had set sail from Turkiye several days ago with migrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran and several other countries, and crashed in stormy weather near Steccato di Cutro, a seaside resort on the eastern coast of Calabria, with bodies, shoes, and debris washing up along a long stretch of shoreline.

The death toll rose on Monday to 62 people, a coast guard official told AFP — and that number looked likely to increase.

The FO spokesperson said that a senior embassy official today met the 16 Pakistani survivors of the capsised vessel. “They seemed in good physical edition,” she added.

DAWN
 
A good portion of ilegal/ economically lower class Pakistanis in nyc are from gujrat also. Same In spain
 
In the game of elites the poor suffer the consequences. Kashmir banega Pakistan. But when will Pakistan become Pakistan. Armed uprising or escape. Only two options left.

Ironic post coming from the supporter of a party that has been in power 4 times since 1990, and when not in power they sit on the generals lap to try and remove the party that is in power.


Is your special diet the reason for your lack of self awareness?
 
Latest - At least 40 Pakistanis dead, 28 identified so far, all from Gujarat.
 
FIA launches trafficking probe after migrant boat tragedy

The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has launched a probe into the network of traff*ickers responsible for sending Pakistani migrants abr*o*ad who died after their boat sank off the coast in southern Italy on Sunday.

In addition, the death toll from the incident incr*e*a*sed to 62 on Monday with the majority of victims feared to be Pakistanis.

In a statement on Mon*day, FIA said teams have been formed to investigate the matter and arrest the traffickers who had illegally sent the victims.

The agency has also started contacting heirs of the deceased, most of whom hailed from Punjab’s Gujrat district.

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1739557/fia-launches-trafficking-probe-after-migrant-boat-tragedy
 
Can't blame so many people wanting to escape countries like Pak. When no one listens to them it seems safer to put their lives at risk for a more prosperous future.
 
Foreign Office (FO) Spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch on Tuesday confirmed that two Pakistanis had died after a wooden sailing boat carrying migrants crashed against rocks on the southern Italian coast over the weekend.
 
The Hazara community in Quetta mourns the loss of Shahida Raza, a 27-year-old woman who drowned in a boat wreck accident while trying to reach Europe in search of a better future.

Raza, also known as Chintoo in sports circles, was an important member of the Pakistan Women's Hockey Team. She also played departmental hockey for Pakistan Railways.

Moreover, she was an exceptional football player and represented Balochistan United in women's football.

According to reports, Raza was on board a boat from Turkey to Italy with dreams of a better future. However, the boat crashed into a sea cliff while anchored in the Crotone region, causing more than 200 migrants to drown, including around 40 Pakistanis, most of whom are said to be from Gujrat.

Raza was the mother of an infant girl, but her daughter was not with her at the time of the accident.

Pakistan Hockey Federation President Brigadier (retd) Khalid Khokhar, Secretary General Syed Haider Hussain, PHF Women Wing Syeda Shehla Raza, Tanzila Amir Cheema, and others have expressed their grief over Raza's tragic death.

The Hazara community, which has been the target of deadly attacks in the past, has expressed deep sorrow and outrage over the incident. The community leaders have urged the government to take measures to prevent such tragedies from happening in the future.

The incident has once again highlighted the dangers that migrants face while trying to reach Europe in search of a better life. Migrants often embark on dangerous journeys, risking their lives in overcrowded and unseaworthy boats, with hopes of a better future.

Express Tribune
 
Awful news this.

Surely things cannot be this bad in Pakistan that people want to risk their life to travel to another country.
 
Tragic, people fleeing for a better life die in such a way.

Where are the loving , caring , bombing regimes into democracy west? Surely if they helped destroyed a nation like Afghanistan, they should care enough to let everyone in?

You cannot be serious. West is not obligated to take any economic immigrants. They have a system for it to allow legal immigrants. Follow the law.

RIP to all victims.
 
Just found out that female national hockey player Shahida is among the victims. Utterly shocking!
 
Tragic, people fleeing for a better life die in such a way.

Where are the loving , caring , bombing regimes into democracy west? Surely if they helped destroyed a nation like Afghanistan, they should care enough to let everyone in?

I’m sure Italy would have taken them in had their boat reach the shore.

But these people were Pakistanis, not Afghans or Iraqis or Libyans or Syrians.

Please explain to me why so many are leaving Pakistan. Were they fleeing the TTP?

https://www.rferl.org/a/pakistan-taliban-ttp-cease-fire-attacks-analysis/32202135.html
 
Awful news this.

Surely things cannot be this bad in Pakistan that people want to risk their life to travel to another country.

They have the money to pay traffickers so no, I doubt they are as bad as all that. Most of them are probably not aware of the risks of traveling such long distance by sea in small boats.
 
Part of the blame must go on the West too. They should not allow any illegal immigrants who come on boats. Allowing these illegals will set a bad precedent reinforces the idea who dares wins.

There will always be people willing to risk it all and the human traffickers will give false assurances to these poor people. Its a business.
 
Just found out that female national hockey player Shahida is among the victims. Utterly shocking!

Hockey is major sports, right? I would think she should have gotten good sponsorship in Pakistan being part of national team.

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Really, really sad news. We all may be sitting behind computer and deliberate, but anyone willing to take such journey won't do it unless their life situation is really bad. Alternatively, they think life can improve drastically even if it's not that bad.

People do try to run away from war zones, but I think Pakistan's situation is mostly due to economic reasons. Only way to stop such incidents is to develop Pakistan. It won't happen in 5-10 years. It will take many decades, but decade is not that long a period for a nation.
 
Hockey is major sports, right? I would think she should have gotten good sponsorship in Pakistan being part of national team.

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Really, really sad news. We all may be sitting behind computer and deliberate, but anyone willing to take such journey won't do it unless their life situation is really bad. Alternatively, they think life can improve drastically even if it's not that bad.

People do try to run away from war zones, but I think Pakistan's situation is mostly due to economic reasons. Only way to stop such incidents is to develop Pakistan. It won't happen in 5-10 years. It will take many decades, but decade is not that long a period for a nation.

It is. The state of sports is very poor! Sports associations receive funding from the government and also from international donors such as the EU but funds are always gobbled by the ones at the helm. If athletes are to participate in any international competitions, they have to pay all the expenses by themselves. I know some brilliant athletes who gave up a sport because they could not afford to pay for the related expenses.
 
Part of the blame must go on the West too. They should not allow any illegal immigrants who come on boats. Allowing these illegals will set a bad precedent reinforces the idea who dares wins.

There will always be people willing to risk it all and the human traffickers will give false assurances to these poor people. It’s a business.

You see, there’s this thing called the Geneva Refugee Convention.

Anyone who has the sheer guts and drive to cross the English Channel in an unsuitable craft is the sort of person I want to be British.
 
You see, there’s this thing called the Geneva Refugee Convention.

Anyone who has the sheer guts and drive to cross the English Channel in an unsuitable craft is the sort of person I want to be British.

And if they die, its their own fault right?
 
The dead include policemen..... one would think a govt. job offers some security, at least enough not to put ones life at such risk.

 
The dead include policemen..... one would think a govt. job offers some security, at least enough not to put ones life at such risk.


Some of these people are clueless, they think the only way to make money is to get to the west. Just turn up and the money starts landing through the letterbox without having to do any work. I doubt any of them are genuine refugees.
 
And if they die, its their own fault right?

They have put themselves at risk.

Obviously if the Royal Navy or Lifeboat Institute pull them out of the sea then that’s great.
 
At least seven Pakistani nationals died in a boat wreck off the coast of Libya earlier this week, the Foreign Office said on Thursday.

Three Pakistani citizens were earlier reported to have died in the latest boat tragedy which occurred near Benghazi in Libyan waters on February 26—the same night a wooden sailboat sank off the coast of Italy’s southern Calabria region, claiming the lives of 67 migrants, including two Pakistanis.

Speaking during the weekly press briefing in Islamabad on Thursday, Foreign Office spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch confirmed that seven Pakistanis have so far been reported to have died in the boat accident near Benghazi.

"Thus far 7 Pakistani nationals have perished in a boat wreck near Benghazi, Libya. The embassy of Pakistan in Libya is facilitating the process of identification of the bodies and transportation of the mortal remains to Pakistan with the support of local authorities and the International Committee of the Red Cross,” the spokesperson said.

Express Tribune
 
They have put themselves at risk.

Obviously if the Royal Navy or Lifeboat Institute pull them out of the sea then that’s great.

Terrible post from you.

This is like putting a loaf of bread across a pond full of crocs and daring the starving people to swim across to get it.
 
The number of Pakistanis killed in a migrant boat wreck off the coast of Libya last week has risen to seven, the Foreign Office confirmed on Thursday, as the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) arrested three alleged traffickers responsible for sending migrants down the ill-fated route that culminated in a shipwreck off the coast of southern Italy.

At the weekly briefing in Islamabad, FO spokesperson Mumtaz Zahra Baloch told reporters that so far, seven Pakistani nationals had perished in the boat wreck near Benghazi.

The Pakistani mission in Libya is facilitating the identification of the bodies and transportation of the mortal remains to Pakistan, with the support of local authorities and the International Committee of the Red Cross, she said. “The embassy and ministry of foreign affairs are also in contact with the families of the deceased,” Ms Baloch said.

Talking about the tragic wreck off the coast of Italy, she said that so far, authorities had confirmed that 17 Pakistanis were rescued, while two individuals were killed and two are still missing.

DAWN
 
Terrible post from you.

This is like putting a loaf of bread across a pond full of crocs and daring the starving people to swim across to get it.

Terrible lack of thinking from you. There is no loaf. The people are well off enough to afford to pay the traffickers. They can stop in mainland Europe and avoid the English Channel.

If people in France want to put to sea in an unsafe boat we cannot stop them because we are not French police. All we can do is help them if they get into trouble in UK waters.
 
Terrible lack of thinking from you. There is no loaf. The people are well off enough to afford to pay the traffickers. They can stop in mainland Europe and avoid the English Channel.

If people in France want to put to sea in an unsafe boat we cannot stop them because we are not French police. All we can do is help them if they get into trouble in UK waters.

Desperation can make one do anything, even like coming up with the money to send a beloved one to greener pastures. Some might be well off to a certain degree but most of these type of migrants are debt ridden
 
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QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) — A Pakistani national soccer team player who died in a migrant shipwreck off of Italy's southern coast embarked on the voyage to find medical treatment for her disabled 3-year-old son, her sister and a friend said Saturday. Hospitals had told her that help overseas could be her only option.

Shahida Raza, who also played for Pakistan's national field hockey team and was from Quetta in southwestern Baluchistan province, was one of at least 67 people who perished in the shipwreck. The overcrowded wooden boat they were traveling in broke apart in rough waters in the Ionian Sea off of Calabria before dawn last Sunday.

The boat that set sail from the Turkish port of Izmir carried people from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and other countries seeking a better quality of life in Europe. According to survivor accounts, the vessel had 170 or more passengers before the tragedy happened.

Raza’s sister, Sadia, said Shahida’s attempts to emigrate had one motive: “She only wanted her three-year-old disabled son to move, laugh and cry like other children,” Sadia told The Associated Press. “Shahida’s sole dream was the treatment of her disabled child. She risked her own life after hospitals in Pakistan told her that overseas medical aid could be the only option.”

The boy, Hassan, was not on the boat and remained in Pakistan. He suffered brain damage as a baby and is also paralyzed on one side of his body, from head to toe. It was not clear how Shahida intended to help him by traveling overseas and leaving him behind.

“She was a brave woman, as strong as a man,” said Sadia. “My sister got her son treated at the Aga Khan Hospital in Karachi. She was told that if he was taken abroad, there could possibly be good treatment.”

Aga Khan authorities were unable to comment on Shahida’s case. Sadia said Shahida also approached Quetta’s Combined Military Hospital, which also said it could do nothing for her son.

“What a mother does for her children, nobody else can. Shahida always wanted to handle things on her own," she said. We are proud of our sister."

Pakistanis have paid tribute to Shahida across the country and in her village.

Photographs of her donning the country's national colors and sporting accolades have appeared on TV screens and social media, although it was reported that most people came to know of her after her death as women's sports are not widely televised in Pakistan. Local media also quoted her family as saying she had previously spoken about the lack of acknowledgement and recognition for her achievements.

Pakistani President Arif Alvi on Friday said Raza’s tragedy had “deeply moved” him as the country had failed to provide her son with medical facilities.

The president, who was speaking at an international conference on cerebral palsy, said the professional training of health experts and an inclusive approach from society was vital for accommodating people with disabilities.

Shahida’s friend, Sumiya Mushtaq, said the 29-year-old athlete often expressed her concern about her child’s health.

“The inability to get cured of the disease at local hospitals compelled her to find a better future for her son abroad,” she said.

Her family in Pakistan on Saturday was still awaiting the repatriation of her body.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...tp&cvid=f8956b81d5fa44a8b6d6e8a4999fe8bc&ei=6
 
QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) — A Pakistani national soccer team player who died in a migrant shipwreck off of Italy's southern coast embarked on the voyage to find medical treatment for her disabled 3-year-old son, her sister and a friend said Saturday. Hospitals had told her that help overseas could be her only option.

Shahida Raza, who also played for Pakistan's national field hockey team and was from Quetta in southwestern Baluchistan province, was one of at least 67 people who perished in the shipwreck. The overcrowded wooden boat they were traveling in broke apart in rough waters in the Ionian Sea off of Calabria before dawn last Sunday.
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Shahida’s friend, Sumiya Mushtaq, said the 29-year-old athlete often expressed her concern about her child’s health.

“The inability to get cured of the disease at local hospitals compelled her to find a better future for her son abroad,” she said.

Her family in Pakistan on Saturday was still awaiting the repatriation of her body.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/worl...tp&cvid=f8956b81d5fa44a8b6d6e8a4999fe8bc&ei=6

Brave mother, RIP. Hope the govt. steps in to help the child. That's a painful story to read.
 
Brave mother, RIP. Hope the govt. steps in to help the child. That's a painful story to read.

She's not a brave mother, she must have spent a fortune on taking her disabled child onto an unsafe boat across potentially stormy waters. Why would you do that unless you were starving or destitute?
 
She's not a brave mother, she must have spent a fortune on taking her disabled child onto an unsafe boat across potentially stormy waters. Why would you do that unless you were starving or destitute?

She was by herself, the child is back home in Pakistan.
 
She was by herself, the child is back home in Pakistan.

So she was happy enough to leave her child in Pakistan, presumably to be ably fed and clothed, while she herself was willing to pay traffickers to get her to Europe on a row boat? I can't even begin to imagine the warped priorities in play here.
 
So she was happy enough to leave her child in Pakistan, presumably to be ably fed and clothed, while she herself was willing to pay traffickers to get her to Europe on a row boat? I can't even begin to imagine the warped priorities in play here.

The doctors in Pakistan told her there isn't anything more that they can do and she needs to take the child abroad for treatment. She did not want to accept her fate, sit at home and watch the child suffer.
 
The doctors in Pakistan told her there isn't anything more that they can do and she needs to take the child abroad for treatment. She did not want to accept her fate, sit at home and watch the child suffer.

She could have been nuked along with her child 50 years ago if she was a Jap. But I guess someone will look after her kids in Pakistan. She must have known that.
 
Pakistani fatalities in this as well

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KALAMATA, Greece, June 14 (Reuters) - At least 79 migrants drowned early on Wednesday and hundreds more were feared dead or missing after their overloaded boat capsized and sank in open seas off Greece, in one of Europe's deadliest shipping disasters.

As a painstaking search for survivors continued, a European rescue support charity said it believed around 750 people were on board the 20- to 30-metre-long (65-100 foot) vessel, while the U.N.'s migration agency cited an estimate of up to 400.

Greek authorities said it was too soon to speculate on the total number.

Greece is one of the main routes into the European Union for refugees and migrants from the Middle East, Asia and Africa. Most cross over to Greek islands from nearby Turkey.

But since the previous conservative government of Kyriakos Mitsotakis introduced tougher surveillance at the country's migrant camps, increasing numbers have chosen to make a longer, more dangerous journey from Turkey to Italy via Greece.

Greek state broadcaster ERT said the boat that sank was en route for Italy, having set sail from the Libyan town of Tobruk, which lies south of the island of Crete. Greek authorities did not confirm the vessel's departure port.

Alarm Phone, which operates a trans-European network supporting rescue operations, said it received alerts from people on board a ship in distress off Greece late on Tuesday, but subsequently lost contact.

"According to the people, there were 750 people on board... We now hear reports of a shipwreck and fear they are true," it said on Twitter.

Greek authorities said it remained unclear how many the vessel was carrying when it went under, and that 104 people had been rescued by midday.

"It is not safe to give a number. We do not know how many people were in the hold," Greek coast guard spokesperson Nikos Alexiou told Greece's MEGA TV. "...There were too many people on the outer deck. It was full."

Late on Tuesday, a few hours before the boat capsized, the boat's occupants refused an offer of help, insisting on continuing their journey, the coast guard said.

The shipwreck is the deadliest off Greece this year, and among the worst in Europe. In February, 96 people died when their wooden boat smashed into rocks on Italy's Calabrian coast during a storm.

The Greek migration ministry blamed international smuggling networks for putting migrants' lives at risk, while Filippo Grandi, the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees, called on governments to work together on creating safe pathways for people fleeing poverty and war.


INTERNATIONAL WATERS

The Greek coast guard said the ill-fated boat was first spotted late on Tuesday by EU border agency Frontex in international waters around 50 miles (80 km) southwest of the southern Greek coastal town of Pylos.

Italian authorities then alerted Greece to the vessel's presence, and the Greek coast guard approached it and offered help. But migrants packed on its outer deck "refused assistance and stated their desire to continue their voyage", according to the coast guard.

A few hours later, the vessel began veering from side to side before capsizing around 2 a.m. on Wednesday and then sinking, a government official said.

ERT TV said most of those on board were young men in their 20s. A shipping ministry official who spoke on condition of anonymity said most were from Egypt, Syria and Pakistan.

Survivors were taken to the southwestern Greek coastal town of Kalamata and were expected to be moved to a camp outside Athens, the migration ministry said.

Covered in blankets, exhausted survivors rested on mattresses at a warehouse shelter set up in Kalamata port.

Libya, which has had little stability or security since a NATO-backed uprising in 2011, is a major launching point for people seeking to reach Europe by sea. People-smuggling networks are mainly run by military factions that control coastal areas.

In recent days, security forces in Libya have cracked down on migrants with detentions and deportations. It was not clear whether the ship that sank on Wednesday departed Libya before or after the crackdowns.

Greece was at the front line of Europe's migration crisis of 2015-16, when nearly 1 million people arrived on its islands from Turkey before heading north to wealthier European states.

Numbers have fallen dramatically since a 2016 EU-Turkey deal to stem the flows. Mitsotakis' government has said its tougher stance had helped keep arrivals low.

Greece is currently led by a caretaker administration ahead of a national election on June 25 that the conservatives are expected to win.

About 72,000 refugees and migrants have arrived so far this year in Europe's front-line Mediterranean countries, according to United Nations data, with the majority landing in Italy and around 6,500 in Greece.

Nearly 1,000 people are estimated to have died or gone missing in the Mediterranean this year, according to the U.N.
 
West must stop accepting these refugees. Its not their duty to take care of people fleeing other nations. How many can they accept before they realize we have made a mistake?

South Asia and subsaharan african countries have failed their citizens. West is also not doing good anymore. Its a never ending cycle. If West takes 1000 illegals, 10,000 will show up within a week. Playing right into the hands of far right ideology.
 
Is this the recent trend of Pakistanis migrating illegally to Europe or has this been in full force for a good time period?
 
Families of some of the missing have arrived in Kalamata in search of their loved ones.

"My relatives were on the boat," said Aftab, who had travelled from the UK and said at least four of his relatives from Pakistan were unaccounted for.

"We've had confirmation. We found one of the relatives in [the rescue centre]. But the others we haven't got hold of yet," he told the BBC.


A Syrian man from the Netherlands broke down as he revealed his wife and brother-in-law were missing.

Activist Nawal Soufi was the first to raise the alarm after being contacted by people on the boat on Tuesday morning. She also believes around 750 people were on board.

The boat went down about 80km (50 miles) south-west of Pylos after 02:04 on Wednesday morning local time, according to the Greek coastguard.

A timeline provided by the coastguard said that initial contact was made with the fishing boat at 14:00 (11:00 GMT) the previous day, and no request for help had been made.

It said the Greek shipping ministry had made repeated contact with the boat and was told it simply wanted to sail on to Italy. A Maltese-flagged ship provided food and water at around 18:00, and another boat provided water three hours after that, it added.

Then at around 01:40 on Wednesday, someone on the boat is said to have notified the Greek coastguard that the vessel's engine had malfunctioned.

Shortly afterwards, the boat capsized, taking only 10 to 15 minutes to sink completely. A search and rescue operation was triggered but complicated by strong winds.

A coastguard spokesman told ERT that the boat's engine broke down in the early hours of Wednesday, then people on board started to move around causing it to capsize. He said everyone rescued was male.
 
Some of the stories now emerging from the boat disaster off Greece on Wednesday morning create a picture of unthinkably horrific conditions onboard.

Up to 500 people are missing after an overcrowded fishing boat carrying migrants capsized in the Mediterranean Sea, the United Nations has said.

Authorities rescued 104 people and recovered 78 bodies in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy, but nothing has been found since.

Witness accounts suggested 400-700 people had packed the 20-30m-long trawler, which capsized and sank about 50 miles from the southern coastal town of Pylos as it was travelling from Libya to Italy.

A Greek social worker, who looked after some of the survivors, told us she had heard that water ran out on the boat days before it sank, forcing passengers to drink their own urine and suck water from the melting refrigerators.

Many of them are suffering severe mental trauma.

She recalled one survivor who told her that "for two hours he was swimming surrounded by the bodies of children" and a young man in his 20s who "wanted to commit suicide, wanted to jump into the sea and kill himself because he couldn't take it anymore".

The survivors have been moved to an immigration centre in central Greece.

The warehouse where they were staying is now being cleaned and the aid agencies have left. It's clear they're not expecting any more survivors.

The media attention has shifted to the Hellenic Coastguard office in the port of Kalamata as questions are now arising over whether they could have done more to avert the disaster.

One Greek newspaper quoted an anonymous source claiming that a rope had been attached to the boat around three hours before it capsized.

There are also questions about why nothing was done to rescue at least some of the passengers when it was obvious the boat was dangerously overcrowded, with migrants onboard and therefore almost certainly people smugglers too.

The coastguard has previously said it acted in accordance with international law because the boat was in international waters.

Nine Egyptian men, aged 20 to 40, have been arrested on allegations of people smuggling and participating in a criminal enterprise.

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National Assembly Speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf on Saturday urged the government to “immediately investigate” the capsizing of a fishing boat earlier this week that killed at least 78 people, with Pakistanis feared to be among the dead.

On Wednesday, an overloaded boat — with around 750 people on board according to a European rescue support charity — sank in open seas off Greece.

As a painstaking search for survivors continued, 104 people were found alive, with 12 Pakistanis among them, the Foreign Office (FO) confirmed today.
 
At least 12 Pakistanis of a family feared dead. They hailed from Kotli, AJK.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My thoughts and prayers are with the bereaved families who lost their loved ones in the unfortunate ferry disaster in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Greece. Our Embassy in Athens has identified 12 Pakistanis rescued by Hellenic Coast Guard. The Embassy is in contact with…</p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1670020424300908547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 17, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Hours after alarm was raised in the National Assembly over Greece boat tragedy, followed by Speaker Raja Per*vaiz Ahsraf’s directions to the authorities concerned for stern action against human traffickers, the Federal Inv*es*tigation Agency (FIA) formed a four-member team to track down those responsible.

The directives from the NA speaker came after attention of the House was drawn towards the incident in which dozens drowned, including some Pakistanis, while attempting to enter the country illegally from Libya.

While search for survivors continued, the Foreign Office (FO) on Saturday confirmed that 12 Pakistanis, among 104 people, were found alive.
 
The relatives of migrants feared to be on the boat that capsized and sank off southern Greece on Wednesday are desperately awaiting “good news” about the well-being of their loved ones.

The relatives, most of them in faraway countries like Pakistan and Syria have nothing but grim accounts of pain and grief to share. With hundreds still missing — and no chances of survivors anymore — many might not be able to see their friends and family members who were on the boat.

Mohammed Yunis, a Pakistani taxi driver living in the UK for over four decades told The Guardian he lost 45 relatives, including his brother Yousaf, in the tragedy.

“I want answers,” he told The Guardian outside the Greek coastguard’s headquarters in Kalamata in southern Greece.
 
Looks pretty bad. Many of folks from Azad Kashmir too. Situation getting dire.
 
Pakistani nationals appear to have been singled out on the trawler that sank off Greece last Wednesday with hundreds of passengers feared dead.

Macabre details have emerged of conditions on the boat, as questions mount over whether the Greek coastguard “covered up” its role in the tragedy. With about 500 people still feared missing, new accounts from survivors indicate that women and children were forced to travel in the hold, and that certain nationalities were condemned to the most dangerous part of the trawler.

According to leaked testimonies told by survivors to coastguards, Pakistanis were forced below deck, with other nationalities allowed on the top deck, where they had a far greater chance of surviving a capsize.

The testimonies suggest women and children were effectively “locked up” in the hold, ostensibly to be “protected” by men on the overcrowded vessel. The Observer has learned that Pakistani nationals were also kept below deck, with crew members maltreating them when they appeared in search of fresh water or tried to escape.

No women or children are thought to be among the survivors, while reports from Pakistan on Saturday indicate hundreds of its citizens may have died when the rusty trawler sank off the Peloponnese peninsula. Local media reported that at least 298 Pakistanis died, 135 from the Pakistani side of Kashmir.

One estimate indicated about 400 Pakistanis were on board. The country’s ministry of foreign affairs has so far confirmed that only 12 of the 78 survivors were from Pakistan.

Conditions on the boat were so bleak that even before it sank there had already been six deaths after it ran out of fresh water.

Nawal Soufi, a Moroccan-Italian social worker and activist, added that passengers were pleading for help a day before it sank. “I can testify that these people were asking to be saved by any authority” she said. Her account contradicts that of the Greek government, which said passengers told the coastguard no request for help was made because they wanted to go to Italy.

New testimony also indicates that the trawler’s engine failed days before it sank, making it likely the crew would have sought help. “We started the journey at dawn on Friday. Around 700 of us were on board,” one migrant is recorded as saying in testimony taken by coastguards overseeing the inquiry into the disaster. “We were travelling for three days and then the engine failed.”

Four days after one of the worst disasters in the Mediterranean in recent years, the discrepancy is only one of a series of unanswered questions, including what prompted the vessel to capsize. Of concern are claims that it overturned in the early hours of Wednesday because a rope was attached by coastguards, allegations rejected by Greek officials.

At first, the coastguard said it had kept a “discreet distance” from the boat, but on Friday a government spokesman confirmed a rope had been thrown to “stabilise” the boat.

Maurice Stierl, of the Institute for Migration Research and Intercultural Studies at Osnabrück University in Germany, said: “The Hellenic coastguard speaks of a sudden shift in weight. So what caused the sudden shift in weight? Was there a panic on board? Did something happen during the attempt to provide them with something? Or was it towed? And due to this towing, did the boat go down?”

There are also questions over whether the Greek coastguard should have intervened earlier to escort the ageing trawler to safety. Government officials have confirmed patrol boats and cargo ships had been shadowing the trawler since Tuesday afternoon.

Some believe the failure to intervene cannot be explained by incompetence. Stierl accused many EU countries of “weaponising time” by delaying rescue as long as they can, or what he called a “phase of strategic neglect and abandonment.” He said: “They have managed to build in delays into European engagement at sea. They’re actively sort of hiding, in fact, from migrant boats, so that they are not drawn into rescue operations. We can see how a strategy is being created, that slows down –actively and consciously slows down – rescue efforts.”

On Monday attention will turn to the alleged Egyptian smuggling ring in charge of the vessel, with nine suspects due in court.

Guardian
 
In light of the recent Greece boat tragedy, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif on Sunday directed law enforcement agencies (LEAs) to trace those involved in human smuggling.

On Wednesday, an overloaded boat — with around 750 people on board according to a European rescue support charity — sank in open seas off Greece. Many Pakistanis are feared dead although the exact number has not yet been officially confirmed.

The Foreign Office said on Saturday that 12 Pakistanis had been found alive as National Assembly Speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf urged the government to “immediately investigate” the incident.

The Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) has also formed a four-member team to track down those responsible.

In a statement released today, the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) said that PM Shehbaz directed LEAs to track down “agents” involved in human trafficking and called for bringing them to justice.

Further, on the instructions of the premier, the Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) had appointed DIG Alam Shinwari as the focal person to facilitate information regarding those who lost their lives in the incident and the injured.

The PMO handout said that the Azad Jammu and Kashmir chief secretary had also appointed a focal person for to contact the Pakistani embassy in Greece and authorities in this regard, and for facilitating the injured and the deceased’s relatives.

PM Shehbaz expressed deep grief and sorrow at the Pakistani lives lost in the boat tragedy and instructed the embassy in Greece to look after the 12 citizens rescued.

DAWN
 
The relatives of migrants feared to be on the boat that capsized and sank off southern Greece on Wednesday are desperately awaiting “good news” about the well-being of their loved ones.

The relatives, most of them in faraway countries like Pakistan and Syria have nothing but grim accounts of pain and grief to share. With hundreds still missing — and no chances of survivors anymore — many might not be able to see their friends and family members who were on the boat.

But the good news is at least he has got what looks like a Chat GPT generated condolence from Shebaz Sharif as consolation.

Mohammed Yunis, a Pakistani taxi driver living in the UK for over four decades told The Guardian he lost 45 relatives, including his brother Yousaf, in the tragedy.

“I want answers,” he told The Guardian outside the Greek coastguard’s headquarters in Kalamata in southern Greece.

Who does he want answers from? Presuming someone from his end put the lives of 45 people from his family in the hands of illegal smugglers or Muslim hating Greeks, I would have thought his chances are slim.
 
It's people like muhammad yunis who need to be arrested stripped of citizenship and deported back

It's people like that who tell relatives tall tales of gold paved streets of the west and egg them or make them envious enough to risk life and limb to get to Europe.

When the grim reality is different and the life of many low skilled workers in the west is nothing to sing about their lives are worse than dogs .
 
West must stop accepting these refugees. Its not their duty to take care of people fleeing other nations. How many can they accept before they realize we have made a mistake?

South Asia and subsaharan african countries have failed their citizens. West is also not doing good anymore. Its a never ending cycle. If West takes 1000 illegals, 10,000 will show up within a week. Playing right into the hands of far right ideology.

if your ancestors were also refugees or took asylum and became legal, than would it be right for that person to say there needs to be a stop to this?
 
She's not a brave mother, she must have spent a fortune on taking her disabled child onto an unsafe boat across potentially stormy waters. Why would you do that unless you were starving or destitute?

big words from someone who lives comfortably and never had to deal with problems that 3rd world country people have it deal with
 
big words from someone who lives comfortably and never had to deal with problems that 3rd world country people have it deal with

I have never understood how they can claim poverty as a reason of escaping their home country when they are paying so much money to these human smugglers for their illegal migration? Why can’t they use that money to set up a business for themselves/ invest in farming in the homeland?

Honestly, I just think it’s peer pressure which leads them to make this dangerous trek. We see something similar in Gujarat and Punjabi youths - people from well off farming families paying in crores to human smugglers to ferry them across to the West. It’s just become a status symbol, there is no real pressing economic need to do so.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In order to ascertain facts in the wake of the tragic incident of the capsizing of the boat in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Greece, I have ordered a high-level inquiry. FIA & other law enforcement agencies have been tasked to tighten the noose around the individuals…</p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1670460583752216577?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 18, 2023</a></blockquote>
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I have never understood how they can claim poverty as a reason of escaping their home country when they are paying so much money to these human smugglers for their illegal migration? Why can’t they use that money to set up a business for themselves/ invest in farming in the homeland?

Honestly, I just think it’s peer pressure which leads them to make this dangerous trek. We see something similar in Gujarat and Punjabi youths - people from well off farming families paying in crores to human smugglers to ferry them across to the West. It’s just become a status symbol, there is no real pressing economic need to do so.

You really don't get it. Do you ? They have just enough money to escape. Not enough money to bribe their way to success in business in a corrupt syatem.
 
Pakistani authorities arrested on Sunday 11 suspects allegedly involved in the smuggling of people to Europe via the Middle East and Africa, including those who died in the recent Greece boat tragedy.

On Wednesday, an overloaded boat — with around 750 people on board according to a European rescue support charity — sank in open seas off Greece. Many Pakistanis are feared dead although the exact number has not yet been officially confirmed.

The Foreign Office said on Saturday that 12 Pakistanis had been found alive as National Assembly Speaker Raja Pervaiz Ashraf urged the government to “immediately investigate” the incident.
 
I have never understood how they can claim poverty as a reason of escaping their home country when they are paying so much money to these human smugglers for their illegal migration? Why can’t they use that money to set up a business for themselves/ invest in farming in the homeland?

Honestly, I just think it’s peer pressure which leads them to make this dangerous trek. We see something similar in Gujarat and Punjabi youths - people from well off farming families paying in crores to human smugglers to ferry them across to the West. It’s just become a status symbol, there is no real pressing economic need to do so.

10 to 20 lakhs rupees doesnt earn you anything first of all.

Secondly, they take loans from people and from family and promise to pay back in future

This is not status symbol, Pakistan is a mess and people want to get out of it one way or another
 
Greece ship tragedy: Pakistan observes day of mourning today

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan is observing a day of mourning over the tragic deaths of its national in the ship sinking incident near the coast of Greece on Wednesday.

The national flag is flying at half-mast and special prayers are being offered for the deceased of the Greece ship tragedy.

At least 78 people were drowned when the ill-fated boat with reportedly 400 to 750 people onboard sank in the Mediterranean Sea near the Greek coast. Meanwhile, some 104 people were rescued and sent to Kalamata, Greece, as per to the latest media reports.

On Sunday, Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif announced to observe mourning day on Monday (today) and constituted a four-member high-level committee to probe into the death of dozens of Pakistanis in the Greece boat tragedy.

National Police Bureau Director General Ehsan Sadiq has been appointed chairman of the probe committee while the other members include Foreign Ministry’s Additional Secretary for Africa Javed Imrani, DIG Poonch Zaheer Ahmed and Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Joint Secretary Faisal Nisar Chaudhry.

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‘Black sheep’ in FIA backing human traffickers in Pakistan: ex-director

Former additional director of Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) Sajjad Bajwa has revealed that some ‘black sheep’ in the agency are backing agent mafia in Pakistan, ARY News reported on Sunday.

The former FIA additional director Sajjad Bajwa was commenting on the human trafficking situation in Pakistan which led to the incidents like Greece boat tragedy in which dozens of Pakistanis were reportedly killed and missing.

In a statement, Bajwa said that people usually think that their lifestyle would be completely changed after reaching Europe. “Some people used to travel to Europe through land routes and others from Balochistan, Iran and Turkey while others choose air routes through Libya to enter Europe.”

“It is a fact that the agent mafia is very active in Gujrat and Gujranwala divisions. Strict actions were not taken against the agent mafia [human traffickers] in both divisions. The members of agent mafia have usually saved themselves from facing actions through corruption and nexus with the influential people.”

The former FIA officer admitted that the members of the agent mafia have strong connections in other countries. “If there is a will to catch the human traffickers then they would definitely be arrested.”

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https://arynews.tv/black-sheep-in-fia-backing-human-traffickers-in-pakistan-ex-director/
 
You really don't get it. Do you ? They have just enough money to escape. Not enough money to bribe their way to success in business in a corrupt syatem.

There are people in Pakistan making a living by selling burgers off a trolley.
 
There are people in Pakistan making a living by selling burgers off a trolley.

You think those people make enough to survve?

Again you seem to think that a burger seller in UK is equivalent to a burger seller in pakistan.

That burger seller has no where to live or even if he does live its in an old shady room where he rests for 6 hours and thanh starts working for 12-15 hours daily making peanuts. They dont even make enough to come out of that poverty.

Its easier to talk and judge people from the comfort of your living room. And you probably enjoy that comfort because someone from your ancestors once migrated or ran from the land they obce lived in for a better future.

Thusz never judge others who want a better future, especially if you are a brown person living in western lands.
 
You think those people make enough to survve?

Again you seem to think that a burger seller in UK is equivalent to a burger seller in pakistan.

That burger seller has no where to live or even if he does live its in an old shady room where he rests for 6 hours and thanh starts working for 12-15 hours daily making peanuts. They dont even make enough to come out of that poverty.

Its easier to talk and judge people from the comfort of your living room. And you probably enjoy that comfort because someone from your ancestors once migrated or ran from the land they obce lived in for a better future.

Thusz never judge others who want a better future, especially if you are a brown person living in western lands.

You seem to know an awful lot of detail about lives of burger sellers in Pakistan, even down to how many hours they sleep. Is this something you have experience of? The good news is, that if every burger seller packs up his trolley to pay for a boat trip, that means more opportunity to sell burgers for the ones who stay there. So an opportunity could present itself to raise prices and profits. Which these burger guys should be doing anyway, I mean it's a pretty dumb way to run a business by pricing your goods to low to give you a return.
 
Nine Egyptian men accused of causing a disaster last week when a vessel carrying hundreds of people sank off the Greek coast have pleaded not guilty.

The nine suspects - all aged between 20 and 40 - are accused of people-smuggling and other offences.

A lawyer for one of the men said his client was a passenger, not a smuggler.

At least 78 migrants are known to have died in the disaster but many more are feared to have drowned.

The UN's human rights office says that up to 500 people are still missing.

The BBC has obtained evidence casting doubt on the Greek coastguard's account of the shipwreck.

Analysis of the movement of other ships in the area suggests the overcrowded fishing vessel was not moving for at least seven hours before it capsized. But the coastguard still claims that during these hours the boat was on a course to Italy and not in need of rescue.

Greek officials maintain those on board said they did not want help and were not in danger until just before their boat sank.

The nine suspects all appeared at the Kalamata Court on Monday to face charges of negligent manslaughter, exposing lives to danger, causing a shipwreck and human trafficking.

Alexandros Dimaresis, a lawyer for one of the accused, said that his client was innocent and "paid the smugglers to be taken to Europe".

"He is not a smuggler himself. He was just a passenger," Mr Dimaresis said outside court.

The suspects will be back in court on Tuesday, when it will be decided whether they will remain in jail until the start of the trial.

Meanwhile, Pakistani authorities have arrested 14 people in connection with the alleged trafficking of several migrants who drowned in the disaster.

The government in Islamabad has ordered a high-level inquiry to investigate the human trafficking network thought to be involved, a statement from Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif's office said.

At least 21 of those who are missing came from the Kotli district in Pakistan's part of the Himalayan Kashmir region, police said. Two of the 12 Pakistanis who survived the sinking also came from the same town.


Since the fishing boat carrying up to 750 people went down 50 nautical miles off Pylos in southern Greece, the role of the coastguard has come under increasing scrutiny.

The UN has called for an investigation into Greece's handling of the disaster, amid claims more action should have been taken earlier to initiate a full-scale rescue attempt.

BBC
 
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